Actually it works like this in most countries on the globe. It wouldn't make sense to assume that a company is guilty of sending spam if somebody recieved something advertising their services because you can't really prove that the guy having a rooted box somewhere in Europe, using a bunch of Back Orifice infected boxes in Korea (I didn't belive that it was still alive before I ran some random portscans myself) really sent the spam from those Korean zombies on behalf of given company. Assuming that the targeted audience is living in a completely different legislative spot won't make it easier too.
Proving that he really sent the spam utilizing several computers located in several countries will be hard enough.
It's already possible to sue a company for spamming, but you have to prove that it really came from the company itself (which is usually close to impossible).
If you lift this necessity someone could send spam in the name of a competitor in order to put it out of business. I don't think anybody would really want that to happen.
Until we have a centrally-implemented system that tracks every spammer by IP and reports them to ISPs, we won't be making any real progress.
Do you believe tracking every spammer wouldn't imply tracking just about everybody and everything?
Thanks, I preffer to read my daily spam instead turning the web into '84.
It's impossible to catch every spammer, but dragging some of them into court at least lowers the motivation of sending spam in general. If those numbers from AOL are right, then I think it's reasonable to say that we are making progess in fighting spam. My personal (non-AOL) experience correlates with the numbers, btw:)
Exactly what I was thinking when I read the headline.
I haven't found it in TFA, but maybe they will use a different domain for the address. Something like @aim.com (since they want to link some of the functions of both services this somehow would make sense).
Or they could use an idea from Compuserve - in the good old days they *only* allowed numbers in your address. So you had something like 49823749823@compuserve.com. That used to be extremely handy and nobody complained that their name was already in use;)
There are many places which only offer stuff meant to be redistributed. Start with Legaltorrents and if you need more there are plenty sites you could google up;P
Getting across that "town" at 6c/minute on a bike would cost you good 20-30 euro if you can ride really fast.
I can't really think of any (important) place which you can't reach from the center within 30 minutes. And if it's actually more than 30 minutes away you might not consider going by bike anyway.
Most of the people here don't seem to realize that you only have to pay for the actual time you use them - if you drive to a certain place you just lock it at a corner and if you want to get back it's either still there or there is a different one close-by. So it's usually cheaper than paying 2 Euros for a public one-way ticket.
Most people I know use this service in the evening when they are heading to a nearby pub for a beer btw. It's cheap, relatively convenient and it's still better than going by car. Well it's not exactly better to cycle drunk, but you know;)
Thanks for the encouragement, however, I still don't feel that it would provide any use to me or everybody who reads it:P
Being the only one in my family who hasn't studied medicine I'm quite convinced that there is a bad way to seek for help (TM). And it seems to me that Volkerding took this road. However, since we don't really know anything about his disease I can only make assumptions. But reading stories like the one about plaque bacteria heading to his lungs are strange enough to keep me theorizing (isn't that a insane theory?)
I don't know - I guess the majority is much more in need for a clue on how to copy/paste than on how to select a textbox. Besides: Where would you integrate this clue?
I also like ^W (closes tab/window) and ^U (clears line) btw:)
Personally, he always sounded like a bit of a hypochondriac prima donna, and I was anxiously waiting to be proven wrong.
To me it sounds more like he was really sick and started consulting experts of various fields right away. This is obviously a bad choice because experts always relate symptoms to their realm.
Besides it's also noteworthy that some doctors have strange concepts about treating patients - I could start a huge rant right now about medics performing enemas on patients with toothache, but there might be better places for this:)
Interesting argument, but going Linux isn't the point of this discussion.
If you reach a certain number of boxes to maintain using images becomes the best solution. It might take ~20 minutes to copy it over, but you don't need the presence of an admin during the procedure (just compare that to the time it takes to do a regular reinstall - I guess 2 hours are realistic). In theory you don't need an admin at all if this image is properly configured and contains all programs which are necessary.
intuitive doesn't mean that something is easy to remember or perform, but that it works the way people expect it to behave (at least IMO)
^L is a standard combination used in a variety of programs. Just give it a try - start Mozilla and type Ctrl+L and you'll end up in the address bar. I think that's quite convenient, because otherwise I would need two input devices to perform the same task (select bar + enter address). And since it's almost a standard I don't need to read manuals everytime I want a new app to perform this action.
It's quite intuitive for those who know the command and for those who don't want to use shortcuts there is still clickyclicky:)
So what's the problem again?
I would still put a new image onto the disk if the system is critical - there are just too many places in Windows which could have been modified.
He could hide a program somewhere which simply fetches a new rootkit and runs ist. And if it's a custom rootkit those antivirus programs wouldn't even notice.
I once had such a case - we didn't notice anything except for extremely high traffic reports coming from one computer. Sophos and several other programs didn't find anything. I still don't know how he gained access, but I do know that he ran a ftp server hidden in some system dir. So I had no other chance than installing a new up-to-date image. Of course I forced anybody who used this box to change their passwords. Yes, this makes me look like an idiot, but what would you do in such a case? Delete the ftp program and hope that it's not coming back?
Yes, I agree that it wasn't a good choice to mention renting as a choice in the article.
But I completely agree that it often makes more sense to build some device out of old parts instead of buying expensive gear. Most of the time such things are expensive because:
*There is just a small market and/or
*it's too hard for Joe Sixpack to build it
It's nowadays possible to build just about anything with cheap components or even stuff which is considered trash. So if you have time and imagination at hand it's a good idea to think of building stuff on your own. Especially if the money you saved is lower than the income you would have had if you spend the same time at work:)
I think they've got automated attacks in mind - not terrorists on autopilot.
Take a model aircraft, equipp it with GPS and put some plastic into it. If you make a bunch of them you're able to attack just about any target without too much risk.
AFAIK they repositioned the satelites before the war started in order to archive higher accuracy/reliability in this region.
My favorite computer magazine ran some tests and came to the conclusion that (at least in Europe) the side-effects on the civil signal were rather positive.
wouldn't that imply that more expensive licenses would lead to higher cost of deployment and maintenance?
Value of 36% times two = Value of 64% times two?!
Or are you making fun of TCO studies?
For sure it's a great place to discuss any medical condition someone might experience (if you are aware that most opinions don't come from experts there).
However, if you are
working at your desk, trying to ignore the tingling or numbness you've had for months in your hand and wrist. Suddenly, a sharp, piercing pain shoots through the wrist and up your arm.
(quote from this page).
It's not so hard to figure out then that it might be related to excessive time spent typing.
I never had CTS, but it sounds rather strange to me that someone would actually use the same device, which got him into this condition, to find a remedy. But I'm not saying that it wouldn't happen in real life.
Maybe those PR guys at google came up with this example on purpose;)
Similarly, users looking for advice on treating carpal tunnel [...] can find discussions from other people who have experience in these areas.
I know this is just an example illustrating the possibilities, but wouldn't it be wiser to consult a doctor instead of joining a Usenet discussion to explain your situation (using a keyboard), reply to questions (again using a keyboard), looking for other threads (keyboard)... Isn't that a little odd?
Well it's using DirectX, which makes it much harder to port (as opposed to the majority of games running under linux, which use OpenGL).
However, seeing what can be archived with OpenGL, I really wonder why many developers don't consider it an option. Developing games in OpenGL and distributing (unsupported) linux binaries can't be much more expensive.
I think he meant tracking in the sense of observing, not finding someone. With those few pixels it's possible to keep someone under surveillance. After a human "marked" him the computer shouldn't lose him. But if the person enters a house or gets lost in a crowd it's over.
However, if you put some logical assumptions into the program it should be able to catch on if the person uses certain cars/bicycles, leaves his house in the morning...
That's just me contemplating possibilities. It's highly unlikely that China's satelites can do 5cm and even if they could, they'd rather use humans instead of experimental tracking software I guess;)
I guess it's just a very eloquent way of saying...and other stuff;)
Who knows what satelites can track today? I doubt that the resulution is sufficient to track individuals yet. If I were living in China I would be more concerned about the government watching me from the surface.
AFAIK radiocarbon dating can only be used on plants or bones (or anything else which used to live)
According to the CNN article the scientists dated the site it was found, so they might have used this method on something which has been found with the stone. However, I'm apparently clueless;)
well I was glad to find any out of date reference, because referring to post Saddam resources wouldn't help at all. The article is from 1997 and served it's purpose in this case. Regular people in Iraq were not able to access the internet before Saddam left (and they still aren't, but now it's a financial problem).
However, I still don't think it's appropriate to honor attempts to tell the upper class (you might call them "those who had e-mail under Saddam) that they'll be safe if they comply while they apparently haven't managed to establish means of telling someone that he and his family isn't lying on the floor hands above the head because of arbitrariness.
That's a good idea, but there are various ways to manipulate this device. From the good old days when a borer was all you needed to get past 999999 to digital odometer manipulation, which requires more knowledge, but some people make a living out of it for sure...
But I guess manipulating GPS devices isn't much harder. I bet that transmitters, which outshine regular GPS signals, will be in stores ~3 months after this bill is passed.
The truly unfortunate thing in my mind is that it apparently didn't occur to anyone to keep up this communication after the invasion when there was still a chance to win the hearts and minds of Iraqis.
I'm always stunned about the lack of translators btw. Whenever I see a documentary about the situation in Iraq there certainly is one scene in which soldiers are frisking a house and then one of them (usually quite young and nervous) tries to tell a scared iraqi family that there have been rumours about a gun fight and that they just want to make sure that there are no weapons in the house. And while he explains and explains in english those guys don't get a word.
I'm just surprised they haven't considered sending translators with every patrol before they came up with e-mails sent to a country which officially had no internet connection at all.
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Actually it works like this in most countries on the globe. It wouldn't make sense to assume that a company is guilty of sending spam if somebody recieved something advertising their services because you can't really prove that the guy having a rooted box somewhere in Europe, using a bunch of Back Orifice infected boxes in Korea (I didn't belive that it was still alive before I ran some random portscans myself) really sent the spam from those Korean zombies on behalf of given company. Assuming that the targeted audience is living in a completely different legislative spot won't make it easier too.
Proving that he really sent the spam utilizing several computers located in several countries will be hard enough.
If you lift this necessity someone could send spam in the name of a competitor in order to put it out of business. I don't think anybody would really want that to happen.
Thanks, I preffer to read my daily spam instead turning the web into '84. It's impossible to catch every spammer, but dragging some of them into court at least lowers the motivation of sending spam in general. If those numbers from AOL are right, then I think it's reasonable to say that we are making progess in fighting spam. My personal (non-AOL) experience correlates with the numbers, btw :)
Exactly what I was thinking when I read the headline.
;)
I haven't found it in TFA, but maybe they will use a different domain for the address. Something like @aim.com (since they want to link some of the functions of both services this somehow would make sense).
Or they could use an idea from Compuserve - in the good old days they *only* allowed numbers in your address. So you had something like 49823749823@compuserve.com. That used to be extremely handy and nobody complained that their name was already in use
There are many places which only offer stuff meant to be redistributed. Start with Legaltorrents and if you need more there are plenty sites you could google up ;P
Most of the people here don't seem to realize that you only have to pay for the actual time you use them - if you drive to a certain place you just lock it at a corner and if you want to get back it's either still there or there is a different one close-by. So it's usually cheaper than paying 2 Euros for a public one-way ticket.
Most people I know use this service in the evening when they are heading to a nearby pub for a beer btw. It's cheap, relatively convenient and it's still better than going by car. Well it's not exactly better to cycle drunk, but you know ;)
Thanks for the encouragement, however, I still don't feel that it would provide any use to me or everybody who reads it :P
Being the only one in my family who hasn't studied medicine I'm quite convinced that there is a bad way to seek for help (TM). And it seems to me that Volkerding took this road. However, since we don't really know anything about his disease I can only make assumptions. But reading stories like the one about plaque bacteria heading to his lungs are strange enough to keep me theorizing (isn't that a insane theory?)
I also like ^W (closes tab/window) and ^U (clears line) btw :)
To me it sounds more like he was really sick and started consulting experts of various fields right away. This is obviously a bad choice because experts always relate symptoms to their realm.
Besides it's also noteworthy that some doctors have strange concepts about treating patients - I could start a huge rant right now about medics performing enemas on patients with toothache, but there might be better places for this
Interesting argument, but going Linux isn't the point of this discussion.
If you reach a certain number of boxes to maintain using images becomes the best solution. It might take ~20 minutes to copy it over, but you don't need the presence of an admin during the procedure (just compare that to the time it takes to do a regular reinstall - I guess 2 hours are realistic). In theory you don't need an admin at all if this image is properly configured and contains all programs which are necessary.
intuitive doesn't mean that something is easy to remember or perform, but that it works the way people expect it to behave (at least IMO) ^L is a standard combination used in a variety of programs. Just give it a try - start Mozilla and type Ctrl+L and you'll end up in the address bar. I think that's quite convenient, because otherwise I would need two input devices to perform the same task (select bar + enter address). And since it's almost a standard I don't need to read manuals everytime I want a new app to perform this action. It's quite intuitive for those who know the command and for those who don't want to use shortcuts there is still clickyclicky :)
So what's the problem again?
I would still put a new image onto the disk if the system is critical - there are just too many places in Windows which could have been modified.
He could hide a program somewhere which simply fetches a new rootkit and runs ist. And if it's a custom rootkit those antivirus programs wouldn't even notice.
I once had such a case - we didn't notice anything except for extremely high traffic reports coming from one computer. Sophos and several other programs didn't find anything. I still don't know how he gained access, but I do know that he ran a ftp server hidden in some system dir. So I had no other chance than installing a new up-to-date image. Of course I forced anybody who used this box to change their passwords.
Yes, this makes me look like an idiot, but what would you do in such a case? Delete the ftp program and hope that it's not coming back?
Yes, I agree that it wasn't a good choice to mention renting as a choice in the article.
:)
But I completely agree that it often makes more sense to build some device out of old parts instead of buying expensive gear. Most of the time such things are expensive because:
*There is just a small market and/or
*it's too hard for Joe Sixpack to build it
It's nowadays possible to build just about anything with cheap components or even stuff which is considered trash. So if you have time and imagination at hand it's a good idea to think of building stuff on your own.
Especially if the money you saved is lower than the income you would have had if you spend the same time at work
I think they've got automated attacks in mind - not terrorists on autopilot.
Take a model aircraft, equipp it with GPS and put some plastic into it.
If you make a bunch of them you're able to attack just about any target without too much risk.
AFAIK they repositioned the satelites before the war started in order to archive higher accuracy/reliability in this region.
My favorite computer magazine ran some tests and came to the conclusion that (at least in Europe) the side-effects on the civil signal were rather positive.
wouldn't that imply that more expensive licenses would lead to higher cost of deployment and maintenance? Value of 36% times two = Value of 64% times two?! Or are you making fun of TCO studies?
I know this is just an example illustrating the possibilities, but wouldn't it be wiser to consult a doctor instead of joining a Usenet discussion to explain your situation (using a keyboard), reply to questions (again using a keyboard), looking for other threads (keyboard)...
Isn't that a little odd?
Well it's using DirectX, which makes it much harder to port (as opposed to the majority of games running under linux, which use OpenGL).
However, seeing what can be archived with OpenGL, I really wonder why many developers don't consider it an option. Developing games in OpenGL and distributing (unsupported) linux binaries can't be much more expensive.
I think he meant tracking in the sense of observing, not finding someone. With those few pixels it's possible to keep someone under surveillance. After a human "marked" him the computer shouldn't lose him. But if the person enters a house or gets lost in a crowd it's over. However, if you put some logical assumptions into the program it should be able to catch on if the person uses certain cars/bicycles, leaves his house in the morning... That's just me contemplating possibilities. It's highly unlikely that China's satelites can do 5cm and even if they could, they'd rather use humans instead of experimental tracking software I guess ;)
I guess it's just a very eloquent way of saying ...and other stuff ;)
Who knows what satelites can track today? I doubt that the resulution is sufficient to track individuals yet. If I were living in China I would be more concerned about the government watching me from the surface.
AFAIK radiocarbon dating can only be used on plants or bones (or anything else which used to live)
;)
According to the CNN article the scientists dated the site it was found, so they might have used this method on something which has been found with the stone. However, I'm apparently clueless
well I was glad to find any out of date reference, because referring to post Saddam resources wouldn't help at all. The article is from 1997 and served it's purpose in this case. Regular people in Iraq were not able to access the internet before Saddam left (and they still aren't, but now it's a financial problem). However, I still don't think it's appropriate to honor attempts to tell the upper class (you might call them "those who had e-mail under Saddam) that they'll be safe if they comply while they apparently haven't managed to establish means of telling someone that he and his family isn't lying on the floor hands above the head because of arbitrariness.
That's a good idea, but there are various ways to manipulate this device. From the good old days when a borer was all you needed to get past 999999 to digital odometer manipulation, which requires more knowledge, but some people make a living out of it for sure... But I guess manipulating GPS devices isn't much harder. I bet that transmitters, which outshine regular GPS signals, will be in stores ~3 months after this bill is passed.
I'm just surprised they haven't considered sending translators with every patrol before they came up with e-mails sent to a country which officially had no internet connection at all.