seems to me sun is working at making solaris look more and more like linux all the time.
you can run linux apps on solaris x86 and it should/will be LSB compliant, solaris will almost run on every platform linux will run on. gnome will replace CDE, more and more gnu/linux tools get introduced into solaris. last but not least, they talk (but where is the action??) about making solaris open source!
First question: Which of the hundreds of distros do I use?
i admit there are not that much versions of windows around (yet:P) as linux distros. but just for kicks, ask on any forum which windows is best and which you should use. you'll get nowhere with the answers you'll get there.
Second question: If they are all Linux, why will this application run on one but not the other? Development geek speak.
_might_ be better in the windows world, if you take prebuild binary packages/installers into account only! even so, a lot of stuff doesn't work in certain versions of windows, try explaining your uncle why his favourite app no longer works on his new pc with the latest windows on it
Third question: Of the hundreds of choices of this particular application, which is best? Hundreds of naswers and then a massive flame war.
ok, i though windows had the most apps available? well, that is what you guys always claim, so if you have more apps available, you must have more apps to choose from. same flames as we have on linux, perhaps you don't see them as often, the linux crowd appears to be more vocal:)
There was nothing scary about the firt Doom, the graphics were so bad that it didn't matter.
sure, now they are bad, but back then, oh boy! i played that game again and again, and let me tell you how scary it was! it got me jumping out of my chair when my mother would walk into the room. the original doom used lighting as well to create fear, you must remember all the halls which were half lit, or with flashing lights, or the many traps where the lights would go out and a secret door would open releasing zillions of imps.
I'm not sure why i would want to use this feature. it only works for x86, as you can read here.
although solaris x86 is not locked to specific hardware, I doubt SUN will provide your company support on non-SUN hardware. So you will be running Solaris x86 on SUN hardware which will be running linux apps, while I could just as well run native linux on x86 on probably cheaper hardware. Tell me exactly why should prefer running linux apps under Solaris instead? Certainly on x86 this makes no sense.
What this is, is just a way for SUN to say that Solaris x86 is a vailable platform, because it runs all these applications (which are linux apps). Now they no longer have to worry about pushing vendors to port apps to Solaris x86.
However I don't see this as a winner for SUN, apps will still not be written for Solaris x86 and how long will they be able to keep this game up? What if apps start using specific kernel calls which solaris does not have. I'd be surprised if a command like 'iptables' would work, while it is a very basic linux command.
1. Linux apps will run on Solaris 10 on Intel/Sparc. Someone said this is just for X86. it is on the website of sun as well. it works only on Solaris x86!
Sun is playing a bad game of poker. even somebody who has never played the game before knows their hand is empty. Just call the cards, have a good laugh and move on.
How could MS be doing this? They are the ritchest software company on the planet, they should _not_ be doing this for money reasons. And what is even worse is that they are using companies like wipro. Why don't they start a MicroSoft office in India, and hire the programmers as MicroSoft employees? I find it surprising nobody sees it this way, some companies may need to outsource for survival (or whatever), but I don't think that's the case with MS.
I always found the license model of the software companies to be outragous when i started working as an admin. Where else can you find a model like this? they ask you to pay them more while they provide _nothing_ extra. nothing changes on the software side just because you add processors to your machine. (oh, some companies even use complex matrixes of cpu/ram/users/db size/etc. to make it even more rediculous) Imagine paying more for a leaf of bread because your family contains 5 people, or paying more for fuel because when you use your car there are 3 people in it most of the time, it makes no freaking sense! The licensing model has been corrupt for a long time already, it needs to change yesterday not tomorrow.
eh, blah! even if he manages to win this one and get a six in a row. everybody knows the best cyclist to ever win the tour (5 times) is eddy merckx. (check out his bicycles at www.eddymerckx.be)
though, i do admire lance, after all he is doing really great after recovering from cancer.
1. licenses like this make me crazy, limiting the capabilities of (expensive) software/hardware unless you pay up. just note how many times to make money on the _same_ thing while producing _no_ extra effort! (unless you think of enabling a few more slots/drives as an effort?!)
2. really, is that what you think? believe me, they are _not_ selling those things at a loss. _never_ not even after you get your supposed _big_ discount.
3. if you bought the freaking thing, i don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to investigate the workings of it. it can provide you with a better understanding of the machine, making you a better administrator etc.
ps: i too use storagetek hardware. their products are OK and so far i never had to complain about support either. still stuff like this make me reach my boiling point.
well, isn't it a valid test? it shows 64bit programs are available at least on linux but not in windows. this means linux already wins only keeping that factor in mind!
perhaps these big software houses like veritas should try making good software for a change. not only that, but their prices are outragous. get a clue guys, if you are going to charge big bucks, at least try to make it work right! if you think microsoft makes bad software, wait until you deal with the crap veritas, hp (openview), bmc, etc. come up with.
for archiving purposes. I'm telling you, i'm just rounding of a project at work for replacing a tape library as our main backup solution with an EMC CX700 Disk array. Ofcourse archival data will be flowed onto tapes, because it would be just wasting space keeping that 'dead data' on the disks for x years. I will be keeping all backup data on said disk array for a week, which will allow me blazing fast restores with 100% reliability! older data will also be pushed off to tape, because basicly most restore requests come from data backed up the last week. In the backup industry they use a fancy name for this called - Information Lifecycle Management. I must admit those (proprietary) tape drives from STK are fast (and also _very_ expensive), but it is not only about being fast. what you want is to have your backups running successfully and even more important is that your restores are working!
Keep these simple facts in mind; if you want to achieve the same speed and reliability of a disk array with a tape library you'll be spending almost as much as on a disk library. In my evaluation of disk vs tape, the tape won only on two points: it uses a lot less electricity and the tape cartridges can be moved around much easier then disks.
I'm so sick and tired of dealing with tapes for doing primary backups of a _large_ data center.
According to IBM/HP Linux is a server OS, but if you listen to SUN it is only good for desktop stuff. Other companies are using Linux for embedded things.
So what is it? In fact you answered the question already for yourself when you said - one of the reasons the Linux community has become so splintered (different distros, etc.) is because people are taking Linux in different directions
compared to all those 'you have been hugged' or 'you have a friend' mails that instruct you to forward it to x friends or else something bad will happen to you! *phear* the worst thing is ofcourse that people keep forwarding this #!$#@%$$#%^!@&^@# crap!
I was a subscriber for many months, and quit my subscription. I cited that the only game I was interested in was SW Galaxies, and that until it was supported, I would no longer subscribe.
i think that you did the best thing. you canceled your subscription and stated why. i would not be surprised if they keep some kind of stats on that so they know which games need to be supported before losing more customers. ofcourse you can also vote if you are a customer, but i think that voting mechanism is not really fair, for a company money talks.
really, old games are still hot. how popular is Mame, c64, amiga, nes, etc games on emulators? Ok, none of the consoles have the capability to run mame stuff on it out of the box (but after you mod it, you can, and almost everybody with a chip does just that). now backwards compatibility is nothing more. The older consoles, using cartridges, almost never had backwards compatibility, because i guess it wasn't always as easy to do (cartridge format changes every generation, cpu's were not that fast etc) but todays consoles surely can do all that now, and i think there have been enough posts here that show a lot of people use it. in fact it looks like only 10% don't want it, instead of the other way around.
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XXX and that last james bond were so bad i even though about leaving the theatre (which i would normally never do).
seems to me sun is working at making solaris look more and more like linux all the time.
you can run linux apps on solaris x86 and it should/will be LSB compliant, solaris will almost run on every platform linux will run on. gnome will replace CDE, more and more gnu/linux tools get introduced into solaris. last but not least, they talk (but where is the action??) about making solaris open source!
can anybody see a trend here?
First question: Which of the hundreds of distros do I use?
i admit there are not that much versions of windows around (yet :P) as linux distros. but just for kicks, ask on any forum which windows is best and which you should use. you'll get nowhere with the answers you'll get there.
Second question: If they are all Linux, why will this application run on one but not the other? Development geek speak.
_might_ be better in the windows world, if you take prebuild binary packages/installers into account only! even so, a lot of stuff doesn't work in certain versions of windows, try explaining your uncle why his favourite app no longer works on his new pc with the latest windows on it
Third question: Of the hundreds of choices of this particular application, which is best? Hundreds of naswers and then a massive flame war.
ok, i though windows had the most apps available? well, that is what you guys always claim, so if you have more apps available, you must have more apps to choose from. same flames as we have on linux, perhaps you don't see them as often, the linux crowd appears to be more vocal :)
Also a lot of references/influences from beowulf can be found in the lord of the rings.
...this was called a cheat :P
press f1 for unlimited amo, f2 for flashlight always on, f3 for unlimited health, right mouse button to continue...
sure, now they are bad, but back then, oh boy! i played that game again and again, and let me tell you how scary it was! it got me jumping out of my chair when my mother would walk into the room. the original doom used lighting as well to create fear, you must remember all the halls which were half lit, or with flashing lights, or the many traps where the lights would go out and a secret door would open releasing zillions of imps.
it was scray then, it is scary now, it is DOOM
although solaris x86 is not locked to specific hardware, I doubt SUN will provide your company support on non-SUN hardware. So you will be running Solaris x86 on SUN hardware which will be running linux apps, while I could just as well run native linux on x86 on probably cheaper hardware. Tell me exactly why should prefer running linux apps under Solaris instead? Certainly on x86 this makes no sense.
What this is, is just a way for SUN to say that Solaris x86 is a vailable platform, because it runs all these applications (which are linux apps). Now they no longer have to worry about pushing vendors to port apps to Solaris x86.
However I don't see this as a winner for SUN, apps will still not be written for Solaris x86 and how long will they be able to keep this game up? What if apps start using specific kernel calls which solaris does not have. I'd be surprised if a command like 'iptables' would work, while it is a very basic linux command.
1. Linux apps will run on Solaris 10 on Intel/Sparc. Someone said this is just for X86.
it is on the website of sun as well. it works only on Solaris x86!
Sun is playing a bad game of poker. even somebody who has never played the game before knows their hand is empty. Just call the cards, have a good laugh and move on.
i would have loved to see at least one OSS VM project compared as well. too bad they didn't do it (even just for completness).
Well, you should be surprised. If my boss is on vacation we don't even notice the difference.
How could MS be doing this? They are the ritchest software company on the planet, they should _not_ be doing this for money reasons.
And what is even worse is that they are using companies like wipro. Why don't they start a MicroSoft office in India, and hire the programmers as MicroSoft employees?
I find it surprising nobody sees it this way, some companies may need to outsource for survival (or whatever), but I don't think that's the case with MS.
I always found the license model of the software companies to be outragous when i started working as an admin.
Where else can you find a model like this? they ask you to pay them more while they provide _nothing_ extra. nothing changes on the software side just because you add processors to your machine. (oh, some companies even use complex matrixes of cpu/ram/users/db size/etc. to make it even more rediculous)
Imagine paying more for a leaf of bread because your family contains 5 people, or paying more for fuel because when you use your car there are 3 people in it most of the time, it makes no freaking sense! The licensing model has been corrupt for a long time already, it needs to change yesterday not tomorrow.
This almost too funny to be true.
Fiats excellent mechanics and MicroSofts fabulous software skills are a perfect match!
though, i do admire lance, after all he is doing really great after recovering from cancer.
1. licenses like this make me crazy, limiting the capabilities of (expensive) software/hardware unless you pay up. just note how many times to make money on the _same_ thing while producing _no_ extra effort! (unless you think of enabling a few more slots/drives as an effort?!)
2. really, is that what you think? believe me, they are _not_ selling those things at a loss. _never_ not even after you get your supposed _big_ discount.
3. if you bought the freaking thing, i don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to investigate the workings of it. it can provide you with a better understanding of the machine, making you a better administrator etc.
ps: i too use storagetek hardware. their products are OK and so far i never had to complain about support either. still stuff like this make me reach my boiling point.
too bad it is just running in 32bits, so i guess OS X is not the first 64bit OS to come out with nvidia drivers out of the box.
well, isn't it a valid test? it shows 64bit programs are available at least on linux but not in windows. this means linux already wins only keeping that factor in mind!
perhaps these big software houses like veritas should try making good software for a change. not only that, but their prices are outragous. get a clue guys, if you are going to charge big bucks, at least try to make it work right!
if you think microsoft makes bad software, wait until you deal with the crap veritas, hp (openview), bmc, etc. come up with.
glad we got that solved ;)
for archiving purposes. I'm telling you, i'm just rounding of a project at work for replacing a tape library as our main backup solution with an EMC CX700 Disk array. Ofcourse archival data will be flowed onto tapes, because it would be just wasting space keeping that 'dead data' on the disks for x years.
I will be keeping all backup data on said disk array for a week, which will allow me blazing fast restores with 100% reliability! older data will also be pushed off to tape, because basicly most restore requests come from data backed up the last week.
In the backup industry they use a fancy name for this called - Information Lifecycle Management.
I must admit those (proprietary) tape drives from STK are fast (and also _very_ expensive), but it is not only about being fast. what you want is to have your backups running successfully and even more important is that your restores are working!
Keep these simple facts in mind; if you want to achieve the same speed and reliability of a disk array with a tape library you'll be spending almost as much as on a disk library.
In my evaluation of disk vs tape, the tape won only on two points: it uses a lot less electricity and the tape cartridges can be moved around much easier then disks.
I'm so sick and tired of dealing with tapes for doing primary backups of a _large_ data center.
Linux is whatever you want it to be.
According to IBM/HP Linux is a server OS, but if you listen to SUN it is only good for desktop stuff. Other companies are using Linux for embedded things.
So what is it? In fact you answered the question already for yourself when you said - one of the reasons the Linux community has become so splintered (different distros, etc.) is because people are taking Linux in different directions
compared to all those 'you have been hugged' or 'you have a friend' mails that instruct you to forward it to x friends or else something bad will happen to you! *phear*
the worst thing is ofcourse that people keep forwarding this #!$#@%$$#%^!@&^@# crap!
i think that you did the best thing. you canceled your subscription and stated why. i would not be surprised if they keep some kind of stats on that so they know which games need to be supported before losing more customers. ofcourse you can also vote if you are a customer, but i think that voting mechanism is not really fair, for a company money talks.
really, old games are still hot. how popular is Mame, c64, amiga, nes, etc games on emulators?
Ok, none of the consoles have the capability to run mame stuff on it out of the box (but after you mod it, you can, and almost everybody with a chip does just that). now backwards compatibility is nothing more.
The older consoles, using cartridges, almost never had backwards compatibility, because i guess it wasn't always as easy to do (cartridge format changes every generation, cpu's were not that fast etc) but todays consoles surely can do all that now, and i think there have been enough posts here that show a lot of people use it.
in fact it looks like only 10% don't want it, instead of the other way around.