I heard Peter Ward and Don Brownlee pumping their book a couple of years ago on National Public Radio's Science Friday. They propose that NO life will be possible in approximately 500 million year due to the life cyle of the Sun. I only heard the last few minutes of their explanation, but they contend that the organic molecules that life depends on here on Earth will not form under the intense ultraviolet radiation that will be pumped from Sol in a half-billion years. No organic molecules, no life.
Okay so what if they are wrong? If Sol takes the normal life course of any star it will expand and consume the inner terristrial planets, Earth included. That scenario can only be avoided by the only other option stars take: a nova and possible core collapse. That isn't exactly a path that leads to expansion of organic life either.
So we either move out into space or die out as a life form. Humans might not (probably not) exist in those timeframes, but organic life will have to move to survive.
So for the time being, they do seem to be working together to the mutual benefit of the two Asian behemoths.
Except that intelligence agencies in the West contend that Pakistan obtained their nuclear capabilities through China. They further propose that support for Kashmiri separatists comes from Chinese intelligence agents.
Keeping the border between Pakistan and India suits China's interests because China sees only *one* superpower in Asia - them.
EOS covered this recent work just recently. The problem with offset drilling is that it does not provide the same informatio as a continuous core. These cores are obtained from 'windows' in previous flows and there is a problem with correlation between boreholes when horizons are not sampled widely. This complicates the historical interpreation and genesis of the oceanic crust.
The demand for advanced drilling technology is one problem with the current Moho sampling efforts. Exploration drilling of the kind used for oil production is not well suited for the work that the ODP is engaged in. Bit designs for the lithostatic loads that these dense rocks develop at depth require a different approach than those used to drill continental sediments buried at depth beneath the ocean.
Why, it gave people months and months and months of information, and beta versions to test against, and release candidates to test against, and so on and so fifth.
Agreed. But this is my biggest gripe about the constant refrain from the Microsoft crowd regarding integration with the OS. Microsoft will berate other OSs for not having the tight coordination between the software and hardware developer community that they enjoy. Their conclusion, therefore, is that the lack of integration is sign of poor design.
The fact that some vendors may have been unwilling or unable to actually do anything with it all is beside the point.
No argument here. Now if we could just get Microsoft to get past that piece of FUD we could all go back to discussing the real merits of a computing platform.
Why, it gave people months and months and months of information, and beta versions to test against, and release candidates to test against, and so on and so fifth.
Agreed. But this is my biggest gripe about the constant refrain from the Microsoft crowd regarding integration with the OS. Microsoft will berate other OSs for not having the tight coordination between the software and hardware developer community that they enjoy. Their conclusion, therefore, is that the lack of integration is sign of poor design.
The fact that some vendors may have been unwilling or unable to actually do anything with it all is beside the point.
No argument here. Now if we could just get Microsoft to get past that piece of FUD we could all go back to discussing the real merits of a computing platform.
"Microsoft has published a list of known software that will not work with Service Pack 2."
Did anyone take notice of the fact that only one software package from Microsoft doesn't play nice with SP2?
Microsoft will counter any criticism of their move by pointing out that this is a thrid-party vendor problem. While they may technically be correct, what happened to the tightly-integrated developer network that Microsoft has worked to cultivate. While they have made apps easier to write and execute in the Windows environment, they have also had to play the role of whipping boy when the OS didn't play well.
Sun knows what businesses, universities and governments want, and it isn't all rosy happy days at the park like so many Slashdotters want to make it out to be.
I'm not sure what the last portion of that statement implies, but let's move on....
The CDDL, for example, is a bulls-eye hit catering to these markets,
How so?
I work for a government laboratory. Make your case for the CDDL being 'better' than GPL.
Do you really think governments developing an identity for themsevles really care about sharing and caring?
"I think Sun just wants to get its name out there and normally Schwartz's comments are more on target."
Just so we are clear, I agree with this last statement. I have also been a user/buyer of Sun's products for over a decade. Their equipment and software have been the model for reliability.
The problem for Sun's management is how to move from the dominant spot to a situation where they are a competitor amongst low-cost equipment vendors and aggressive software providers. I am of the opinion that Sun's management doesn't have a coherent strategy for moving forward. They are stuck in a past-life and can't seem to articulate a vision that leave their customer base crying for more.
I think that it may be a function of their original culture. The innovation they brought to the market was so incredible and revolutionary that all Sun had to do was keep advancing technology. As the market contracted for equipment, however, they had no fall-back strategy and they took the greatest hit. And because they relied on technology advancement to grow their business rather than developing a market share mentality, their competitors are eating them alive.
Attacking the GPL is one indication of their distraction. They think that RedHat is their enemy, and maybe it is. But by attacking the foundation of a developer community you risk alienating anyone who may be an advocate for your products/technology.
Attacking the GPL does what in the face of Microsoft? Do they really think they can stunt IBM's growth by attacking the copyright choice of the majority of FOSS software developers?
"Developers, developers, developers....."
Schwartz would do well to respect them even if he disagrees with them.
"Is this your snarky way of telling developers they should aspire to be like Van Gogh, invisible and destitute for their lifetimes?"
I got the opposite impression: "My work is a gift of art, not a commodity to be traded".
It may not be your idea of value for a life's work, but it is what drives most artisans to express themselves. Why shouldn't *some* computer programmers feel likewise?
I completely understand your position; it reflects mine: I've gotta eat! But artists, whatever their medium, don't always see their creation in a financial light.
Just because you call it a 'datum' does not mean it is not a data point. A datum is an arbitrary reference point, but it is, first and foremost, a data point.
My first reaction to your post was to agree that I am getting sick of April Fool's jokes on information channels. But I try to visualize Slashdot as one, big room filled with geeks talking about stuff. Not all of the stuff is serious; hell, not all of it is relevant to tech.
But this isn't google news or excite or yahoo. I think the expectation is that I will read some *truly* insightful stuff as I wade through all the GNAA and goats.cx crap.
Provided this isn't how it looks 365, I'm not unhappy enough to quit reading and posting.
If this really pisses you off, let me suggest that you grab your local newspaper and head down for a beer at your favorite watering hole. I'm sure that the combination of beer, newsprint, and conversation with the locals will mellow your mood a bit.
That's right, little kiddy. Let good ol' Daddy Government tell you what to do, think, and say.
No independent thought, mass conformity, deminished free will.
This is just what the Framers were thinking when they passed 10 Amendments immediately *after* affirming the Consitution.
They had no great trust of strong, centralized governance. That doesn't mean there weren't any founders who throught a weak central government was a *good* thing, but they were all pretty fresh from King George's treatment.
Most of the Framers would not recognize their work of liberty in current expression of Executive power. But this expansionist policy of Executive priveledge is not a foreign concept to political party of the current President.
I've worked on two CRADAs and I don't think you should put too much hope in them.
I came in at the last part of one CRADA were we deveolped a new way of doing geologic testing. By the time the finalists had been selected we began testing, running qual/quant analysis on the data, and made improvements to increase productivity. The product was offered almost immediately for private work. That was the great promise of the CRADA; faster time to market for high frontier scientific advances.
It has been 12 years since that CRADA was completed and the technology is just now beginning to adapt to the demands that the orignal development agreement envisioned. While the time to commercialize the product outside has been slow, we did use the technology for selected drilling projects.
The second one started about when the last one ended. We are just now (10 years later) getting to the field with our other remote sensing projects. And as in the case of the drilling CRADA, the only customer at this point is the federal government.
Which brings up an interesting question: "Would the development happen faster or slower without the government involvement?" I think the getting the govenment involved just muddies the water. The only benefit to government agencies from a CRADA is the intellectual property aspects. But if you only had only one customer in the world, would you make your IP an issue, or you you just quote a price?
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but it's libelous to take his statements out of context and claim they're hypocritical.
In which country? Certainly not in the US.
Otherwise every politician within spitting distance would be in jail.
Do you think there will be hot-babes with bare midriffs to sign?
I heard Peter Ward and Don Brownlee pumping their book a couple of years ago on National Public Radio's Science Friday. They propose that NO life will be possible in approximately 500 million year due to the life cyle of the Sun. I only heard the last few minutes of their explanation, but they contend that the organic molecules that life depends on here on Earth will not form under the intense ultraviolet radiation that will be pumped from Sol in a half-billion years. No organic molecules, no life.
Okay so what if they are wrong? If Sol takes the normal life course of any star it will expand and consume the inner terristrial planets, Earth included. That scenario can only be avoided by the only other option stars take: a nova and possible core collapse. That isn't exactly a path that leads to expansion of organic life either.
So we either move out into space or die out as a life form. Humans might not (probably not) exist in those timeframes, but organic life will have to move to survive.
So for the time being, they do seem to be working together to the mutual benefit of the two Asian behemoths.
Except that intelligence agencies in the West contend that Pakistan obtained their nuclear capabilities through China. They further propose that support for Kashmiri separatists comes from Chinese intelligence agents.
Keeping the border between Pakistan and India suits China's interests because China sees only *one* superpower in Asia - them.
Thanks for the correction. I was just getting ready to head out to the field and did the links rather quickly.
The AGU pub is the one that had the ODP drilling info.
EOS covered this recent work just recently. The problem with offset drilling is that it does not provide the same informatio as a continuous core. These cores are obtained from 'windows' in previous flows and there is a problem with correlation between boreholes when horizons are not sampled widely. This complicates the historical interpreation and genesis of the oceanic crust.
The demand for advanced drilling technology is one problem with the current Moho sampling efforts. Exploration drilling of the kind used for oil production is not well suited for the work that the ODP is engaged in. Bit designs for the lithostatic loads that these dense rocks develop at depth require a different approach than those used to drill continental sediments buried at depth beneath the ocean.
But get your credit card number and expiration date handy.
Or issue an open purchase requisition.
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Why, it gave people months and months and months of information, and beta versions to test against, and release candidates to test against, and so on and so fifth.
Agreed. But this is my biggest gripe about the constant refrain from the Microsoft crowd regarding integration with the OS. Microsoft will berate other OSs for not having the tight coordination between the software and hardware developer community that they enjoy. Their conclusion, therefore, is that the lack of integration is sign of poor design.
The fact that some vendors may have been unwilling or unable to actually do anything with it all is beside the point.
No argument here. Now if we could just get Microsoft to get past that piece of FUD we could all go back to discussing the real merits of a computing platform.
"dont blame ms for that"
Who did?
You missed my other post regarding integration between MS and its developer community.
MS can claim thrid-party integration AND blame third-parties for non-integration?
Having a cake and eating it too?
Must be nice.
Why, it gave people months and months and months of information, and beta versions to test against, and release candidates to test against, and so on and so fifth.
Agreed. But this is my biggest gripe about the constant refrain from the Microsoft crowd regarding integration with the OS. Microsoft will berate other OSs for not having the tight coordination between the software and hardware developer community that they enjoy. Their conclusion, therefore, is that the lack of integration is sign of poor design.
The fact that some vendors may have been unwilling or unable to actually do anything with it all is beside the point.
No argument here. Now if we could just get Microsoft to get past that piece of FUD we could all go back to discussing the real merits of a computing platform.
"Microsoft has published a list of known software that will not work with Service Pack 2."
Did anyone take notice of the fact that only one software package from Microsoft doesn't play nice with SP2?
Microsoft will counter any criticism of their move by pointing out that this is a thrid-party vendor problem. While they may technically be correct, what happened to the tightly-integrated developer network that Microsoft has worked to cultivate. While they have made apps easier to write and execute in the Windows environment, they have also had to play the role of whipping boy when the OS didn't play well.
It is shitty being at the top.
Good point. I hadn't thought of them.
Sun knows what businesses, universities and governments want, and it isn't all rosy happy days at the park like so many Slashdotters want to make it out to be.
I'm not sure what the last portion of that statement implies, but let's move on....
The CDDL, for example, is a bulls-eye hit catering to these markets,
How so?
I work for a government laboratory. Make your case for the CDDL being 'better' than GPL.
Do you really think governments developing an identity for themsevles really care about sharing and caring?
Have you ever heard of CRADA?
God, Slashdot just might be the core and source of all naivete in the world.
And yet, here you are posting on Slashdot!
Nice rant. Perhaps you could flesh out a positive position for your arguments. I couldn't find one.
"I think Sun just wants to get its name out there and normally Schwartz's comments are more on target."
Just so we are clear, I agree with this last statement. I have also been a user/buyer of Sun's products for over a decade. Their equipment and software have been the model for reliability.
The problem for Sun's management is how to move from the dominant spot to a situation where they are a competitor amongst low-cost equipment vendors and aggressive software providers. I am of the opinion that Sun's management doesn't have a coherent strategy for moving forward. They are stuck in a past-life and can't seem to articulate a vision that leave their customer base crying for more.
I think that it may be a function of their original culture. The innovation they brought to the market was so incredible and revolutionary that all Sun had to do was keep advancing technology. As the market contracted for equipment, however, they had no fall-back strategy and they took the greatest hit. And because they relied on technology advancement to grow their business rather than developing a market share mentality, their competitors are eating them alive.
Attacking the GPL is one indication of their distraction. They think that RedHat is their enemy, and maybe it is. But by attacking the foundation of a developer community you risk alienating anyone who may be an advocate for your products/technology.
Attacking the GPL does what in the face of Microsoft? Do they really think they can stunt IBM's growth by attacking the copyright choice of the majority of FOSS software developers?
"Developers, developers, developers....."
Schwartz would do well to respect them even if he disagrees with them.
"Is this your snarky way of telling developers they should aspire to be like Van Gogh, invisible and destitute for their lifetimes?"
I got the opposite impression: "My work is a gift of art, not a commodity to be traded".
It may not be your idea of value for a life's work, but it is what drives most artisans to express themselves. Why shouldn't *some* computer programmers feel likewise?
I completely understand your position; it reflects mine: I've gotta eat! But artists, whatever their medium, don't always see their creation in a financial light.
Thus the term "Starving Artist".
And we are working *hard* to drive ourselves into obscurity.
Sun has lead the field for so many years that they really believe the crap they publish in the trade press.
It is sad to see a technology giant succumbing to what could qualify as a form of corporate Parkinson's disease.
"this site is 150 meters above sea level"
Two.
"150 meters" and "sea level".
Just because you call it a 'datum' does not mean it is not a data point. A datum is an arbitrary reference point, but it is, first and foremost, a data point.
My first reaction to your post was to agree that I am getting sick of April Fool's jokes on information channels. But I try to visualize Slashdot as one, big room filled with geeks talking about stuff. Not all of the stuff is serious; hell, not all of it is relevant to tech.
But this isn't google news or excite or yahoo. I think the expectation is that I will read some *truly* insightful stuff as I wade through all the GNAA and goats.cx crap.
Provided this isn't how it looks 365, I'm not unhappy enough to quit reading and posting.
If this really pisses you off, let me suggest that you grab your local newspaper and head down for a beer at your favorite watering hole. I'm sure that the combination of beer, newsprint, and conversation with the locals will mellow your mood a bit.
That's right, little kiddy. Let good ol' Daddy Government tell you what to do, think, and say.
No independent thought, mass conformity, deminished free will.
This is just what the Framers were thinking when they passed 10 Amendments immediately *after* affirming the Consitution.
They had no great trust of strong, centralized governance. That doesn't mean there weren't any founders who throught a weak central government was a *good* thing, but they were all pretty fresh from King George's treatment.
Most of the Framers would not recognize their work of liberty in current expression of Executive power. But this expansionist policy of Executive priveledge is not a foreign concept to political party of the current President.
"Too much change."
I'm sure that's what trilobites used to complain about.
Longhorn will be a change, perhaps for the better.
Don't fear change. Change is your frieeeeend.
Change means you can charge more for a slight variation of what you have sold someone before.
It was a JOKE. I'd rather it were a 2:Funny (or 5:Funny, of course).
Instead it is getting modded as Insightful.
Oh, bother.
Oh, man....
I guess I really screwed up the joke if you took it that seriously.
I apologize to the entire slashdot community.
I will keep my day job.
"causing a ship-wide crash that leaves the most formidable weapons system on the planet totally helpless and dead in the water."
Just like NT did with a naval destroyer a few years back.
Linux has just reached at the very least the NT level of complexity.
I've worked on two CRADAs and I don't think you should put too much hope in them.
I came in at the last part of one CRADA were we deveolped a new way of doing geologic testing. By the time the finalists had been selected we began testing, running qual/quant analysis on the data, and made improvements to increase productivity. The product was offered almost immediately for private work. That was the great promise of the CRADA; faster time to market for high frontier scientific advances.
It has been 12 years since that CRADA was completed and the technology is just now beginning to adapt to the demands that the orignal development agreement envisioned. While the time to commercialize the product outside has been slow, we did use the technology for selected drilling projects.
The second one started about when the last one ended. We are just now (10 years later) getting to the field with our other remote sensing projects. And as in the case of the drilling CRADA, the only customer at this point is the federal government.
Which brings up an interesting question: "Would the development happen faster or slower without the government involvement?" I think the getting the govenment involved just muddies the water. The only benefit to government agencies from a CRADA is the intellectual property aspects. But if you only had only one customer in the world, would you make your IP an issue, or you you just quote a price?
Know what I mean?
I wonder why anyone would listen to EDS about anything.
After all, they don't even listen to themselves.