Nothing useful [...] using Linux only damages its reputation.
You know, there are people on this planet, who think knowing only the other os and nothing else is what damages your reputation. And also, FYI, people are capable to learn and use not just only one os, and there are plenty of tasks that can be done with plenty of tools, not just one and nothing else. If I'd hire someone who said that can do word processing, then I'd expect him/her to know word processing, not using a one and only word processor application to compose some documents. Oh well, whatever.
When I switched to Linux I have noticed an instant productivity gain.
Me too. But not because the lack of Counterstrike et al. but because most things come easier or faster or more natural to do, other things can be customized to the extent that I feel it comfortable, and yes, because it's "better, more secure, faster or anything":)
Usually people are afradi from the unknown. By reducing the average level of computer ignorance, a) will pass, which will eliminate b) and while c) can still be valid for some, it seems that the whole issue will not be a problem once the general computer literacy level will raise above the level we have today. As with many things, this is also only a matter of patience and a moderate will to learn and adapt to new things. Which, mind you, is one of the most important parts of general intelligence.
Yes, and that's why that less circumspect formulation in the original is right: largely because of widespread fundamentalism and the politicization of science in the United States
I don't want to see my children's general education be influenced by blinddumb ignorant religion-fanatic bastards. I don't even want to see education and religion in the same sentence related to school education. If I feel my children need more connection to religion, there's us (family), there are religious schools, there are our churches. Mixing religion with government on any level is not something I'd like to see. Not because I'm not a religious person, or that I'd have anything against any religion, no. But because of the oh so large numbers of people who just cannot concieve that any other opinion could even remotely contain any bit of possible truth and condemn those who might even consider to think otherwise. To be honest, seeing the really large numbers of pro/contra evolution theory comments, again, just makes me want to be someplace else. This whole thing is causing such issues because of: the unwillingness of some people to accept that others might have a different view of the universe, the unwillingness of some amongst both sides to accept that religion should not be mixed into general education and politics especially not by government regulations, and because of a really large number of people who think that banning evolution theory from schools (hell, let's ban biology alltogether, right ? and while we're at it, we this whole thing called science, we don't need that either, all we need are dumbed and close minded retard siblings) would do any good.
Maybe because while imperial units are adored at so many places, in the scientific world - thankfully - and at so many much more places the metric units are still the standard. You don't write miles and gallons in a scientific paper if you want it to be read thoughtfully and taken seriously everywhere.
It sounds to me like a hybrid approach may be the best answer
As so many times and so many cases before has it proven to be the optimal solution. What gives ? Good is that we have all these alternatives, and every vm company will try to evaluate, then optimize, which will lead to better performing software VMs, and because hw is slower to catch up, probably software VMs will be better for a while.
380 -> 12/5 DC-DC converter, compared to a traditional 110 AC -> 12/5 DC
Actually, people have had some (:P ) success in using 220/230ac as "traditional", meaning that good converters are not hard to find or build and if you think about jumping down from 220/230, the difference is not that large. Anyway, thing is, if we/they wanted to switch over to dc probably all the issues could fairly easily be solved. But what they don't really talk about is that switching over more than a server room would cost so much that we'd probably have to wait for ages for it to be worth the change.
Yes, sire, I shalt bow before thee. Am I alone to think such opinions come from the usual thinking-to-be professionals who don't actually use those "exciting" software but find it fashionable to talk about having it and using it and knowing it, etc. ? What is "exciting software" anyway ? There are of course applications which have some purpose and are designed nicer, slicker than the others, some even are more usable than others, some are more professional, etc. Still, "new and exciting software" is a so broad and bland formulation that it makes the whole opinion unworthy of any serious consideration.
Apart from the above, OSes other than Windows happen to have very many good applications for a wide variety of goals (and yes, the job and the goal is what defines what software to use, we don't just use a software because it's "exciting" and "new", unless the special family of what I usually call toy apps), and surprisingly (well, not for us) they are usually developed in a much faster pace than in the case of some other OS. Also, needs of the crowds and recognition of some missing niche software (and the implementation of it) usually happens more frequently and faster in the non-Windows world.
If just talking about the number of maintained and developed apps, and the number of areas these applications target, then Linux is better performing in some of these areas than any other OS out there. There are probably a lot of people who at least once thought how nice would it be if this app existed also on Windows, and guess what, these wishes come true more frequently than not. In my world this is one of the biggest strenghts of FOSS development which also makes such developers much more evolved in my book, since they are mostly developing to be platform-agnostic.
If I were wearing my troll-boots, I'd tell you where to go with those new and exciting software you so hardly seek, but I can't find them so there you go, all I can advise you now is to take a much broader point of view upon the Linux and FOSS world, formulate goals and try to find existing software to achieve your goals, and after experimentation you still feel the lack of those exciting pieces of software, than all you can do is search for other pastures where exciting-software-trees grow by the dozen.
Hell, if that woman would be looking like Jessica Alba, then I sure wouldn't want her to be invisible, and I sure wouldn't care how convincingly she'd play anything:)
Certainly not because Fedora thought it's time they jumped into the line. Generally I guess the number (around 2 percent) is just about right. Although during my university years, that is from ~4 to 9 years back, in IT this number at us was much higher, you can hardly meet women actually working for their living in the field.
While I also - like others above - don't really think such "separation" of women related to linux is generally good, it might help some newbies to get involved by alleviating the fear that there are no other women involved, and that's good. Other than that, I'd guess it's pretty useless. But hopefully a girl will come around and tell us otherwise.
You mean the same VMware that have also today released one of their VM systems for free, too?
For one, they didn't release their "VM systems", you should check all their products. Second, they didn't release vmware server and player for free today, they did it some time back now. Third, going back to the netscape/real issue, if you are a company which is based on one product, then yes it's hell bad when another company releases a competing product for free which product is not what that company is dependent on, just wants more share and kill the other one. In this case I don't really think Vmware should be that afraid though, since Vmware's products are still way superior than anything MS can show up in virtualization.
...then why should you accept being treated as a criminal ? This planet will just become one day a Zoo with chipped, tattooed and rfid'd humans wandering around lining up happily for their free daily beating.
Some say it doesn't matter if someone else is always listening/watching. Well, do you speak and behave the same if someone is watching ? Can you pee with someone standing beside you watching ?
Hell, I'm not in the U.S., still I've come to a point where I don't even sign [before you start, I mean gpg] my e-mails going to the U.S., let alone use encryption.
I'd never use network equipment with backdoors known to have been built in (and I don't even have trade secrets to guard). Would you ? Would a company ? Would they prosecute you if you use certified hw with backdoors but keep everyone out with proxies and firewalls ? Or would they then make it also illegal to filter network traffic ?
Am I going too far ? Maybe. But sometimes you have to think further. Where can a road paved with ever more often restrictions lead ? If the police gets more freedoms while you loose your freedoms, what does that tell you about your future ?
American thinking. GPS is a name, a definition, etc. It has nothing to do with geography, states or companies. Whether the U.S. has a GPS or the E.U. has a GPS is irrelevant. Still different to distingish between "some" GPS you can do that distinction easily, since the european one has the name Galileo associated to it. Only americans can think nobody else can make a GPS so they don't even bother to give theirs a name. It's like you called american cars just "cars".
sn't having a quality assurance branch for a spyware company kind of an oxymoron?
That's like having an "ethics department of sudan" or "NSA oversight committee".
No, it's not. Quality of a code/sw has nothing to do with the ethical questions the use or the goals of the sw raises.
for blasting away competing apps were for the benefit of the user. Most likely
Uhmm, maybe that's why nobody said that they did it for benefiting the users ? Killing competition and generating revenue was their goal, I don't think anybody ever doubted that.
...but I never could understood why american folks never raised hell about this whole rebate system. I mean come on, if I go in a store, I want to see 1). the exact total gross price which I have to pay for the thing when I get to the register, and 2). I don't want to see some fictional price displayed which has nothing to do with the amount of money you have to shell out at the register, but some hypothetical price you might arrive to after you sign yourself up into some company databases by filling and mailing in some paperwork. Like these companies would be some aiding organizations with no lurking motives, never using your data for ads, etc. If they'd be willing to give you the stuff cheaper, they'd give it cheaper. But they know exactly that most people will probably not send in the paperwork, so they don't have to pay you back that hypothetical difference.
This is just stupid. Deeply stupid. Yes, I've read all those opinions about how this is so good since they can get oh so many stuff for "free"... now come on, there's a joke I've known for a long time, sounds like this: "- How old are you, young prince ? - I'm 21. - Wow, and you still believe in fairytales ?".
I don't think survival is the important part of the question, especially for such a short time (well, 100 years is only one generation), and we are good survivors. The important part is the "how", i.e. what circumstances, life quality, political and economical climate, human rights, energy situation will our grandchildren have. And honestly, I'm not optimistic. All I can think of, is really not good. Still, hundred years can be a relatively long time, just think back what was here a hundred years ago, and we just might not be able to even concieve the level of changes these hundred years could bring us. I just hope we (well, not we as persons but we as a population) will live to see it without many epidemics, religious or political wars, energy crises and Earth turning into a semi-Arrakis (i.e. desert planet without spice). Then we'll do fine.
Thus it can confer no license for the use of any Microsoft software by passing on the COA (certificate of authenticity), nor can the COA be evidence of, or itself confer, such a license
And it also says:
there are circumstances in which disused or unwanted volume licences for some Microsoft software can be transferred; but this trade must be compliant with Microsoft's own transfer terms and conditions
Rrrright. So, somebody, please, educate us, what _can_ be an evidence of us properly using our legitimately bought MS software ? And, also, what exactly are those transfer terms and conditions ? And what can prove that someone was complying to those terms and conditions ?
30 frames/sec * 60 seconds/minute * 150 minute movie = 135000 pictures, no? That's an awful lot of times pushing the print screen button. Even if you can "print" to an image file, and use a script to "push" the button continuously, once you factor in reassembling it, that'll still take a while.
And christ you got modded +4 informative for that line:D Oh, never mind, since not every moderating user is it-related. So what do you think, if you really think about it, how much coding it takes to capture a screen area into a video with 2x/30 fps ? Rrrright. So, again, what's with that "print" and "push" ?
:D Similar what I thought, but mmy version is like:
[...]
Driver: *OK*
Car: Are you sure ?
Driver: *Yes*
Car: Are you absolutely positive about this ? This action will lower the pressure !
Driver: *Yes*
Car: LUA Notification popping up
Driver: Fsck ! - and drives the car into the nearest wall
Ted Stevens seems to have "recieved an internet," after all, sometime yesterday.
A funny story that I just remembered from this: a very good friend of mine - we were also roomates for the five years during university - used to say when some less knowledgeable (how nicely put) people came around (they were IT students like us) and asking him what he does when he was just browsing some sites or downloading something that he is downloading the internet so that he can read it later on the way home:) You should've seen those faces, freezed in astonishment:))))
I think they're just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, much like VCs do. But their doing it all in-house, hoping to come up with the next big thing. And the thing after that.
Well, if you want to innovate, or research, you have to do that. VCs don't do that, they just hope that the pack of people they give money won't just waste that money but actually come up with an idea that sticks to that wall. In-house research is not comparable with what VCs do with startups which usually base their entire future on one idea and if that fails, they fail. In research every idea that you prove is a failure is in fact a success since it gives you valueable knowledge and experience which you can use in the next trials if you have the money for it, and well, they have the money.
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Nothing useful [...] using Linux only damages its reputation.
You know, there are people on this planet, who think knowing only the other os and nothing else is what damages your reputation. And also, FYI, people are capable to learn and use not just only one os, and there are plenty of tasks that can be done with plenty of tools, not just one and nothing else. If I'd hire someone who said that can do word processing, then I'd expect him/her to know word processing, not using a one and only word processor application to compose some documents. Oh well, whatever.
When I switched to Linux I have noticed an instant productivity gain.
:)
Me too. But not because the lack of Counterstrike et al. but because most things come easier or faster or more natural to do, other things can be customized to the extent that I feel it comfortable, and yes, because it's "better, more secure, faster or anything"
a) unknown b) scaring c) looked at as a server OS
Usually people are afradi from the unknown. By reducing the average level of computer ignorance, a) will pass, which will eliminate b) and while c) can still be valid for some, it seems that the whole issue will not be a problem once the general computer literacy level will raise above the level we have today. As with many things, this is also only a matter of patience and a moderate will to learn and adapt to new things. Which, mind you, is one of the most important parts of general intelligence.
they can make laws to outlaw it in schools
Yes, and that's why that less circumspect formulation in the original is right: largely because of widespread fundamentalism and the politicization of science in the United States
I don't want to see my children's general education be influenced by blinddumb ignorant religion-fanatic bastards. I don't even want to see education and religion in the same sentence related to school education. If I feel my children need more connection to religion, there's us (family), there are religious schools, there are our churches. Mixing religion with government on any level is not something I'd like to see. Not because I'm not a religious person, or that I'd have anything against any religion, no. But because of the oh so large numbers of people who just cannot concieve that any other opinion could even remotely contain any bit of possible truth and condemn those who might even consider to think otherwise. To be honest, seeing the really large numbers of pro/contra evolution theory comments, again, just makes me want to be someplace else. This whole thing is causing such issues because of: the unwillingness of some people to accept that others might have a different view of the universe, the unwillingness of some amongst both sides to accept that religion should not be mixed into general education and politics especially not by government regulations, and because of a really large number of people who think that banning evolution theory from schools (hell, let's ban biology alltogether, right ? and while we're at it, we this whole thing called science, we don't need that either, all we need are dumbed and close minded retard siblings) would do any good.
Maybe because while imperial units are adored at so many places, in the scientific world - thankfully - and at so many much more places the metric units are still the standard. You don't write miles and gallons in a scientific paper if you want it to be read thoughtfully and taken seriously everywhere.
It sounds to me like a hybrid approach may be the best answer
As so many times and so many cases before has it proven to be the optimal solution. What gives ? Good is that we have all these alternatives, and every vm company will try to evaluate, then optimize, which will lead to better performing software VMs, and because hw is slower to catch up, probably software VMs will be better for a while.
380 -> 12/5 DC-DC converter, compared to a traditional 110 AC -> 12/5 DC
:P ) success in using 220/230ac as "traditional", meaning that good converters are not hard to find or build and if you think about jumping down from 220/230, the difference is not that large. Anyway, thing is, if we/they wanted to switch over to dc probably all the issues could fairly easily be solved. But what they don't really talk about is that switching over more than a server room would cost so much that we'd probably have to wait for ages for it to be worth the change.
Actually, people have had some (
mazing lack of new and exciting software
Yes, sire, I shalt bow before thee. Am I alone to think such opinions come from the usual thinking-to-be professionals who don't actually use those "exciting" software but find it fashionable to talk about having it and using it and knowing it, etc. ? What is "exciting software" anyway ? There are of course applications which have some purpose and are designed nicer, slicker than the others, some even are more usable than others, some are more professional, etc. Still, "new and exciting software" is a so broad and bland formulation that it makes the whole opinion unworthy of any serious consideration.
Apart from the above, OSes other than Windows happen to have very many good applications for a wide variety of goals (and yes, the job and the goal is what defines what software to use, we don't just use a software because it's "exciting" and "new", unless the special family of what I usually call toy apps), and surprisingly (well, not for us) they are usually developed in a much faster pace than in the case of some other OS. Also, needs of the crowds and recognition of some missing niche software (and the implementation of it) usually happens more frequently and faster in the non-Windows world.
If just talking about the number of maintained and developed apps, and the number of areas these applications target, then Linux is better performing in some of these areas than any other OS out there. There are probably a lot of people who at least once thought how nice would it be if this app existed also on Windows, and guess what, these wishes come true more frequently than not. In my world this is one of the biggest strenghts of FOSS development which also makes such developers much more evolved in my book, since they are mostly developing to be platform-agnostic.
If I were wearing my troll-boots, I'd tell you where to go with those new and exciting software you so hardly seek, but I can't find them so there you go, all I can advise you now is to take a much broader point of view upon the Linux and FOSS world, formulate goals and try to find existing software to achieve your goals, and after experimentation you still feel the lack of those exciting pieces of software, than all you can do is search for other pastures where exciting-software-trees grow by the dozen.
played more convincingly then Jessica Alba.
:)
Hell, if that woman would be looking like Jessica Alba, then I sure wouldn't want her to be invisible, and I sure wouldn't care how convincingly she'd play anything
Is that finally set to change?
Certainly not because Fedora thought it's time they jumped into the line. Generally I guess the number (around 2 percent) is just about right. Although during my university years, that is from ~4 to 9 years back, in IT this number at us was much higher, you can hardly meet women actually working for their living in the field.
While I also - like others above - don't really think such "separation" of women related to linux is generally good, it might help some newbies to get involved by alleviating the fear that there are no other women involved, and that's good. Other than that, I'd guess it's pretty useless. But hopefully a girl will come around and tell us otherwise.
There's no way you could be dumb enough to actually think that.
Oh yes, there is, and he's got +5, so extrapolate.
Not even funny.
You mean the same VMware that have also today released one of their VM systems for free, too?
For one, they didn't release their "VM systems", you should check all their products. Second, they didn't release vmware server and player for free today, they did it some time back now. Third, going back to the netscape/real issue, if you are a company which is based on one product, then yes it's hell bad when another company releases a competing product for free which product is not what that company is dependent on, just wants more share and kill the other one. In this case I don't really think Vmware should be that afraid though, since Vmware's products are still way superior than anything MS can show up in virtualization.
Seeing a 4300% increase in visits in just two short years
/. "news" about myspace and that figure could easily go to about twohundredgazillion percent.
// In other news I made a site yesterday and I was the only visitor. Today there were 43 visitors.
Like that would mean anything. Anyway, a few more dozen
...then why should you accept being treated as a criminal ? This planet will just become one day a Zoo with chipped, tattooed and rfid'd humans wandering around lining up happily for their free daily beating.
Some say it doesn't matter if someone else is always listening/watching. Well, do you speak and behave the same if someone is watching ? Can you pee with someone standing beside you watching ?
Hell, I'm not in the U.S., still I've come to a point where I don't even sign [before you start, I mean gpg] my e-mails going to the U.S., let alone use encryption.
I'd never use network equipment with backdoors known to have been built in (and I don't even have trade secrets to guard). Would you ? Would a company ? Would they prosecute you if you use certified hw with backdoors but keep everyone out with proxies and firewalls ? Or would they then make it also illegal to filter network traffic ?
Am I going too far ? Maybe. But sometimes you have to think further. Where can a road paved with ever more often restrictions lead ? If the police gets more freedoms while you loose your freedoms, what does that tell you about your future ?
Ok, it has a name "NAVSTAR", so there you go.
GPS is the American
American thinking. GPS is a name, a definition, etc. It has nothing to do with geography, states or companies. Whether the U.S. has a GPS or the E.U. has a GPS is irrelevant. Still different to distingish between "some" GPS you can do that distinction easily, since the european one has the name Galileo associated to it. Only americans can think nobody else can make a GPS so they don't even bother to give theirs a name. It's like you called american cars just "cars".
sn't having a quality assurance branch for a spyware company kind of an oxymoron? That's like having an "ethics department of sudan" or "NSA oversight committee".
No, it's not. Quality of a code/sw has nothing to do with the ethical questions the use or the goals of the sw raises.
for blasting away competing apps were for the benefit of the user. Most likely
Uhmm, maybe that's why nobody said that they did it for benefiting the users ? Killing competition and generating revenue was their goal, I don't think anybody ever doubted that.
...but I never could understood why american folks never raised hell about this whole rebate system. I mean come on, if I go in a store, I want to see 1). the exact total gross price which I have to pay for the thing when I get to the register, and 2). I don't want to see some fictional price displayed which has nothing to do with the amount of money you have to shell out at the register, but some hypothetical price you might arrive to after you sign yourself up into some company databases by filling and mailing in some paperwork. Like these companies would be some aiding organizations with no lurking motives, never using your data for ads, etc. If they'd be willing to give you the stuff cheaper, they'd give it cheaper. But they know exactly that most people will probably not send in the paperwork, so they don't have to pay you back that hypothetical difference.
This is just stupid. Deeply stupid. Yes, I've read all those opinions about how this is so good since they can get oh so many stuff for "free"... now come on, there's a joke I've known for a long time, sounds like this: "- How old are you, young prince ? - I'm 21. - Wow, and you still believe in fairytales ?".
I don't think survival is the important part of the question, especially for such a short time (well, 100 years is only one generation), and we are good survivors. The important part is the "how", i.e. what circumstances, life quality, political and economical climate, human rights, energy situation will our grandchildren have. And honestly, I'm not optimistic. All I can think of, is really not good. Still, hundred years can be a relatively long time, just think back what was here a hundred years ago, and we just might not be able to even concieve the level of changes these hundred years could bring us. I just hope we (well, not we as persons but we as a population) will live to see it without many epidemics, religious or political wars, energy crises and Earth turning into a semi-Arrakis (i.e. desert planet without spice). Then we'll do fine.
Thus it can confer no license for the use of any Microsoft software by passing on the COA (certificate of authenticity), nor can the COA be evidence of, or itself confer, such a license
And it also says:
there are circumstances in which disused or unwanted volume licences for some Microsoft software can be transferred; but this trade must be compliant with Microsoft's own transfer terms and conditions
Rrrright. So, somebody, please, educate us, what _can_ be an evidence of us properly using our legitimately bought MS software ? And, also, what exactly are those transfer terms and conditions ? And what can prove that someone was complying to those terms and conditions ?
30 frames/sec * 60 seconds/minute * 150 minute movie = 135000 pictures, no? That's an awful lot of times pushing the print screen button. Even if you can "print" to an image file, and use a script to "push" the button continuously, once you factor in reassembling it, that'll still take a while.
:D Oh, never mind, since not every moderating user is it-related. So what do you think, if you really think about it, how much coding it takes to capture a screen area into a video with 2x/30 fps ? Rrrright. So, again, what's with that "print" and "push" ?
And christ you got modded +4 informative for that line
:D Similar what I thought, but mmy version is like:
[...] Driver: *OK*
Car: Are you sure ?
Driver: *Yes*
Car: Are you absolutely positive about this ? This action will lower the pressure !
Driver: *Yes*
Car: LUA Notification popping up
Driver: Fsck ! - and drives the car into the nearest wall
Ted Stevens seems to have "recieved an internet," after all, sometime yesterday.
:) You should've seen those faces, freezed in astonishment :))))
A funny story that I just remembered from this: a very good friend of mine - we were also roomates for the five years during university - used to say when some less knowledgeable (how nicely put) people came around (they were IT students like us) and asking him what he does when he was just browsing some sites or downloading something that he is downloading the internet so that he can read it later on the way home
I think they're just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, much like VCs do. But their doing it all in-house, hoping to come up with the next big thing. And the thing after that.
Well, if you want to innovate, or research, you have to do that. VCs don't do that, they just hope that the pack of people they give money won't just waste that money but actually come up with an idea that sticks to that wall. In-house research is not comparable with what VCs do with startups which usually base their entire future on one idea and if that fails, they fail. In research every idea that you prove is a failure is in fact a success since it gives you valueable knowledge and experience which you can use in the next trials if you have the money for it, and well, they have the money.