Ha ha indeed. Interesting parallel for both Gnome and Windows to "push the boundary" and then having to retreat. I manage a set of Linux workstations (Matlab boxes) and have guests with Windows experience use the machines. With Gnome 2... no problem they can sit down and get work done. If I transitioned to Gnome 3 I would get complaints and wtf's all the time.
We've long established that the source of the human "soul" is in the brain. Those interconnections give rise to consciousness and self-awareness -- and sentience. If you build something that precisely models the brain, you will be creating sentience. I have to question how we can create a sentient creature simply to experiment upon it and still claim to have a shred of humanity to us.
I know that this is not as dazzling and interesting as building the device to geeks like us, but we cannot simply ignore the ethical consequences of our actions. All vocations, all manner of human endeavor, must move forward with an eye towards a respect for life. This may not be human life we're creating, or even organic life, but it is no less deserving.
Someday we're going to have cybernetic life walking about. And I have to wonder -- how well will they treat us, when they find out how ethical we were in creating it?
1) The brain being the soul is far from established... the problem of consciousness is still with us.
2) You probably had something that was sentient at one time for lunch.
3) Taking things apart in a biological situation is a one way process... typically it can't be repaired or "rebooted". That is a big difference in what is being described in the OP.
All vocations, all manner of human endeavor, must move forward with an eye towards a respect for life. This may not be human life we're creating, or even organic life, but it is no less deserving
No Word dig at all... what made you think of that?
Simple things like Quickbooks though are still holding me captive. Tried gnucash not quite there yet, spent a week attempting to install LedgerSMB... fail).
Never used Ubuntu before but just installed Debian squeeze on several workstations used for Matlab work. When I sit down and play with those machines compared to my Windows desktop I feel much more at home and comfortable. I could easily see myself going to Debian on the desk except for the apps. Once Adobe, Quicken, and others start developing for Linux it is game over.
I would feel like I my neighbor was prohttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/04/13/159257/eric-schmidt-regulate-civilian-drones-now#viding me with the opportunity to practice target shooting.
It reads like it was written by an Onion "journalists"...
Although I will tell you it is scary when some says "Our values in Iran are the values of God" It is odd how the values of God always seem to take on the values of the subject adherent.
Doing a little research... John Calvin thought the earth was young...
‘and they will not refrain from guffaws when they are informed that but little more than five thousand years have passed since the creation of the universe.’ - John Calvin
Believed in a 6-day creation...
‘I have said above that six days were employed in the formation of the world; not that God, to whom one moment is as a thousand years, had need of this succession of time, but that he might engage us in the contemplation of his works.’ - John Calvin
Was a Delugionist
‘And the flood was forty days.. Moreover, it is to be regarded as the special design of this narrations that we should not ascribe to fortune, the flood by which the world perished; how ever customary it may be for men to cast some veil over the works of God, which may obscure either his goodness or his judgments manifested in them. But seeing it is plainly declared, that whatever was flourishing on the earth was destroyed, we hence infer, that it was an indisputable and signal judgment of God.’ - John Calvin
For it appears opposed to common sense, and quite incredible, that there should be waters above the heaven. Hence some resort to allegory, and philosophize concerning angels; but quite beside the purpose. For, to my mind, this is a certain principle, that nothing is here treated of but the visible form of the world. He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. Here the Spirit of God would teach all men without exception; and therefore what Gregory declares falsely and in vain respecting statues and pictures is truly applicable to the history of the creation, namely, that it is the book of the unlearned. -- John Calvin, Commentary on Genesis
That is a bit of a difficult passage to parse. I will have to read up on the entire context.
However, Calvin did believe in a literal Adam/Eve without which his doctrine would not make any sense! (not claiming that it makes much sense to begin with).
Oh, I know what it means, I simply reject it is a concept representative of theism. I've noted that atheists much prefer debating what they decide to say we say, rather than what we actually say, though, so carry on.
I fully suspected you knew what it means... however you seem to be unaware that Omnibenevolence is not some label that atheists have attached to Christianity but one a very large portion of Christianity has assumed for itself.
"The acknowledgement of God's omnibenevolence is an essential foundation in traditional Christianity; this can be seen in Scriptures such as..."
You may believe otherwise and that is fine but you are wrong to believe that this is some hasty generalization foisted upon Christianity by atheists.
Ah but that does not work anymore because we know that natural evil (the horridly cruel part) has been going long long before humans appear on the stage.
Christianity is very species centric. That is, according to Christian beliefs humans are allegedly the center of the universe and a focus of God's concern. With the modern realization that humans and the earth are not at the center of anything how does a Christian handle the obvious species centricity of Christianity.
Charles Darwin a life long student of nature very aptly commented concerning evolution "what a book a devil's chaplain might write on the clumsy, wasteful, blundering low and horridly cruel works of nature"
How can one reconcile the long suffering and blundering low and cruel works of nature with the notion of a powerful omniscient and omnibenevolent being?
I hate Windows 8. My wife or kids can't figure it out and I have spend too much time in tech support. I usually have to kill some die-hard full screen app via the task manager. Pure stupid.
My son is a sophomore in college and is consider a career in paleontology. I don't really know how to advise him and not sure of the prospects. He has the passion, grades and ambition. What advice would you have for a young person enter the field and what undergraduate degree would you recommend.
I am suspicious that Kuhn's paradigm shift were valid only during the formative years of science (specifically physics). The shifts - if they truly exist - have tended to become smaller asymptotically as science progresses.
Slashdot Mirror
Why not a Lazy-Boy in the center? Now there is headline
Why do people quote this like it were gospel.
Ha ha indeed. Interesting parallel for both Gnome and Windows to "push the boundary" and then having to retreat. I manage a set of Linux workstations (Matlab boxes) and have guests with Windows experience use the machines. With Gnome 2... no problem they can sit down and get work done. If I transitioned to Gnome 3 I would get complaints and wtf's all the time.
There you go... as one of my favorite scientists once claimed "Life will find a way!"
I remember reading somewhere that some anthropologists narrowed down the inventions of the club when skulls starting thickening :)
We've long established that the source of the human "soul" is in the brain. Those interconnections give rise to consciousness and self-awareness -- and sentience. If you build something that precisely models the brain, you will be creating sentience. I have to question how we can create a sentient creature simply to experiment upon it and still claim to have a shred of humanity to us.
I know that this is not as dazzling and interesting as building the device to geeks like us, but we cannot simply ignore the ethical consequences of our actions. All vocations, all manner of human endeavor, must move forward with an eye towards a respect for life. This may not be human life we're creating, or even organic life, but it is no less deserving.
Someday we're going to have cybernetic life walking about. And I have to wonder -- how well will they treat us, when they find out how ethical we were in creating it?
1) The brain being the soul is far from established... the problem of consciousness is still with us.
2) You probably had something that was sentient at one time for lunch.
3) Taking things apart in a biological situation is a one way process... typically it can't be repaired or "rebooted". That is a big difference in what is being described in the OP.
All vocations, all manner of human endeavor, must move forward with an eye towards a respect for life. This may not be human life we're creating, or even organic life, but it is no less deserving
To this I agree.
Same picture higher res....
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/thelede/posts/suspect-number-2.JPG
No Word dig at all... what made you think of that?
Simple things like Quickbooks though are still holding me captive. Tried gnucash not quite there yet, spent a week attempting to install LedgerSMB... fail).
Never used Ubuntu before but just installed Debian squeeze on several workstations used for Matlab work. When I sit down and play with those machines compared to my Windows desktop I feel much more at home and comfortable. I could easily see myself going to Debian on the desk except for the apps. Once Adobe, Quicken, and others start developing for Linux it is game over.
The desktop and mobile platforms need different UI models, and start supporting the separate primary interface models.
Get this poster on the board of MS! Seriously why is MS missing the obvious?
I would feel like I my neighbor was prohttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/04/13/159257/eric-schmidt-regulate-civilian-drones-now#viding me with the opportunity to practice target shooting.
It reads like it was written by an Onion "journalists" ...
Although I will tell you it is scary when some says "Our values in Iran are the values of God" It is odd how the values of God always seem to take on the values of the subject adherent.
Doing a little research... John Calvin thought the earth was young...
Believed in a 6-day creation...
Was a Delugionist
So not sure of our point above.
That is a bit of a difficult passage to parse. I will have to read up on the entire context.
However, Calvin did believe in a literal Adam/Eve without which his doctrine would not make any sense! (not claiming that it makes much sense to begin with).
Ha ha... The effect is amazing. This is why the whole house plug neutralizer is such a deal at a mere $50
http://www.shieldemf.com/wholehouseneutralizer
separates the "intuitive thinker" from their money
For the Prius accelerator screwup....
Oh, I know what it means, I simply reject it is a concept representative of theism. I've noted that atheists much prefer debating what they decide to say we say, rather than what we actually say, though, so carry on.
I fully suspected you knew what it means... however you seem to be unaware that Omnibenevolence is not some label that atheists have attached to Christianity but one a very large portion of Christianity has assumed for itself.
"The acknowledgement of God's omnibenevolence is an essential foundation in traditional Christianity; this can be seen in Scriptures such as..."
You may believe otherwise and that is fine but you are wrong to believe that this is some hasty generalization foisted upon Christianity by atheists.
Ah but that does not work anymore because we know that natural evil (the horridly cruel part) has been going long long before humans appear on the stage.
For your enjoyment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibenevolence
Christianity is very species centric. That is, according to Christian beliefs humans are allegedly the center of the universe and a focus of God's concern. With the modern realization that humans and the earth are not at the center of anything how does a Christian handle the obvious species centricity of Christianity.
Charles Darwin a life long student of nature very aptly commented concerning evolution "what a book a devil's chaplain might write on the clumsy, wasteful, blundering low and horridly cruel works of nature"
How can one reconcile the long suffering and blundering low and cruel works of nature with the notion of a powerful omniscient and omnibenevolent being?
Please...
I hate Windows 8. My wife or kids can't figure it out and I have spend too much time in tech support. I usually have to kill some die-hard full screen app via the task manager. Pure stupid.
My son is a sophomore in college and is consider a career in paleontology. I don't really know how to advise him and not sure of the prospects. He has the passion, grades and ambition. What advice would you have for a young person enter the field and what undergraduate degree would you recommend.
I am suspicious that Kuhn's paradigm shift were valid only during the formative years of science (specifically physics). The shifts - if they truly exist - have tended to become smaller asymptotically as science progresses.
Perhaps the editors "pleasure centers" for a doing a decent job was damaged in some way?