For a person to have command responsibility ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ), the legal doctrine sited in Yamashita's execution, the person in question needs to have been able to stop the war crime in question.
In order to punish Obama in any legal context Obama would have to have some sort of liability for the crime committed. He has none because (5th time now) he had absolutely no involvement with the bombing. The bombing was even contrary to clearly stated US military doctrine. Yamashita on the other hand was present with his army and certainly had the power to stop the abuses perpetrated by his army that happened over a period of several years.
It's really astounding how much you dislike Obama though. You're so desperate to attach guilt to him in this context that you've completely dismissed the legal concept of liability.
For those of you normals who also don't know how virus classification works a "giant virus" is this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... . Basically they're large in size as far as virus' go which is still not very giant. This strikes me as one of those things that make sense when it's explained but why on Earth would a microscopic organism ever be described as giant?
"Fine, yes, I was talking about the Nuremberg principles, not the Nuremberg laws."
So according to you, you were asking for Obama to be prosecuted under the Nuremberg "principles". How exactly does that work?
See, either they're "laws" and Obama can be prosecuted for violating them, or they're "principles" and he can't. In other words, your explanation is as meaningless as your initial statement.
Please keep in mind my core point that Obama did not authorize a thing still stands, I'm just exploring how absurd your covering for an already absurd statement was.
Sadly you haven't been reading my posts so for at least a third time now, Obama did not authorize the strikes so there is nothing to punish him for. He literally had no role in the bombing of the hospital. The only people who can be held responsible for what happened using the laws that you list are the officers who did in fact authorize the strike, who were local in Afghanistan.
Once again for you in all caps OBAMA DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE STRIKE AGAINST THAT HOSPITAL IN AFGHANISTAN.
I'm deliberately being obtuse? You consistently just make shit up on the fly and I'm being obtuse for calling you on it. How on fucking earth would the Nuremberg trails have resulted in "laws"?
On top of that you link to a post about drone strikes that literally has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Your post is an intellectual mess that points to nothing but complete confusion.
You're ridiculous. If Obama didn't directly authorize the action then he can't be held accountable for it anymore then a parent can't be held accountable for their grown childrens actions. Likewise, if a manager rapes a subordinate is the CEO in the wrong?
Yes, something very fucked up happened and there are people who should have been punished very severely for it but once again, Obama had nothing to do with this.
You really do just want to find fault in Obama don't you?
This is the second time in a relatively short period you've tried to demonize Obama for decisions he had nothing to do with. The authorization for the military strike came from the local command structure in Afghanistan, not from Obama ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... ) Do you really think the president of the United States is consulted every single time our arm forces shoot at something. That would be ridiculous.
So my question to you is, do you make this stuff up your self or do you just gullibly believe everything you read on front right wing "news" sites?
"The Americans are the ones who bomb countries and invade neutral nations and cause death and destruction."
Other countries do this too. Russia or Saudi Arabia are great examples of this.
" Obama holds the world record for most children murdered by drones."
You mean the president who was in office when drone tech properly matured has a record set for drone tech? How insightful of you.
I'm sure there are a number of presidents with higher child death counts (a far more reasonable metric) due to military actions such as Roosevelt, Nixon, or Johnson.
"He bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital."
Oh, our president bombed them did he? I didn't think the secret service allowed our presidents to conduct such operations.
"Suddenly China are the bad guys now?"
Not suddenly at all. They lay claim to vast amounts of ocean territory that the rest of the international community recognizes as belonging to other countries or as international waters and have so for decades. The US on the other hand has not been in the habit of attempting to annex other countries territories for over 100 years now.
In fact, China literally signed a treaty when joining the UN that recognizes the boarders they now claim are invalid.
"It was a tiny program before Obama ramped it up."
The only way the program may have been "ramped up" under Obama is because of the higher number of eligible people due to the massive recession that happened just before his presidency. The qualifying circumstances went unchanged under Obama.
"but it gained attention during his administration when recipients began to associate the free phone with other benefits he doled out to the poor."
Obama made zero attempts to associate his name with this program. If some people associated him with the phones they would have been doing so incorrectly as he has nothing to do with the programs creation or the creation of the qualifying metrics.
"GAO investigators also submitted fraudulent applications to see what would happen, and 12 of the 19 phone carriers they applied to approved a phone."
So the monitoring of the program that was set up, once again, before Obama took office, was not set up very well. This is the fault of those people who were responsible for widening the program to cells under Bush.
"The whole thing was widely accepted as being reparations and recipients knew who was doing it and why."
Only by those who wanted that to be true. Anyone who objectively read into the program would know that Obama had nothing to do with that program.
It's fine you don't like Obama but please find some real reasons not to like him.
They were very clearly part of federal policies that existed before Obama came into office. I've sited my own references, please site proper references for what you are claiming.
Heh, you've been duped. That is not a normal user post or I don't know shit about anything.
I was looking at a similar post recently with similar use of bold and caps that was complaining about right wing posters while specifically talking about their own physique although in that case they went on to discuss their calf implants.
Pro tip: Any time you see such a mess of formatting in a post it's not the work of a normal user. Are they crazy? Are they propagandists? Who knows. They certainly arent worth anyone's time though.
And right here in your lack of response is my point, true and pure. Conservatives in our country love to bad mouth leftism and socialized medicine, meanwhile there is a growing consensus that our healthcare system is broken. There is no right wing solution, meanwhile there is an easily observable left wing one that every other first world nation has adopted.
The only reason to reject this vastly more costly effective solution is ignorant philosophy before practical real world results.
"The $200 price point is for parents whose kids keep begging for an Xbox, but the price is just a bit out of reach."
Kids don't make money and are therefore not at all the primary drivers of gaming sales. This is well demonstrated statistically with adult titles driving overall game sales.
"As far as fast broadband not being a requirement for downloading games, I used to have 3Mbit/sec DSL, which was closer to 2Mbit/sec most of the time. Destiny 2 is a bit over 80GB, meaning that it would take nearly four days to download if I did literally nothing else with my bandwidth during that time. Fast broadband not being a requirement is, as CGP Grey would put it, "technically correct, in the most pointless kind of way".
For lower income people the time delay in downloading a game is meaningless if they are able to play the game after the fact. When you are lower income you make due. I know this from personal experience.
" I guess the lower price is for casual gamers who might jump on a $200 Xbox but not a $300 one? That also have fast broadband to download their games? Who are these people?"
Fast broadband is not at all a requirement to downloading games. Why on earth would it be? Furthermore, this lower entry point for gamers of lesser means is highly attractive as it requires a very significantly lower cost initial investment. What many of them will miss however, is that by participating in this they will be missing out on the secondary market. Unfortunately this category of consumer rarely votes, let alone flexes its muscles in any meaningful context so this subtle erosion of property rights will likely go un-noticed.
Steam for the PC is a perfect example of this. More and more, we don't own our software anymore.
Of course San Diego is not part of the "Cool-summer Mediterranean climate" zone I literally showed you. I thought you were so sensitive you could tell the difference...
Northern California native here. I never ever said San Francisco has the best weather, you're making that bullshit up yourself. North of SF, Sonoma Country for instance, has much better weather.
It was the parent that dictated SF had the best weather, not me.
Please try harder Ivan. Clearly your post is meant to be the most unsympathetic denunciation of known conservatives on Slashdot. You're not even being clever here...
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For a person to have command responsibility ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ), the legal doctrine sited in Yamashita's execution, the person in question needs to have been able to stop the war crime in question.
In order to punish Obama in any legal context Obama would have to have some sort of liability for the crime committed. He has none because (5th time now) he had absolutely no involvement with the bombing. The bombing was even contrary to clearly stated US military doctrine. Yamashita on the other hand was present with his army and certainly had the power to stop the abuses perpetrated by his army that happened over a period of several years.
It's really astounding how much you dislike Obama though. You're so desperate to attach guilt to him in this context that you've completely dismissed the legal concept of liability.
For those of you normals who also don't know how virus classification works a "giant virus" is this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... . Basically they're large in size as far as virus' go which is still not very giant. This strikes me as one of those things that make sense when it's explained but why on Earth would a microscopic organism ever be described as giant?
Anyways, nice summary slashdot.
I also feel the need to question you on this.
"Fine, yes, I was talking about the Nuremberg principles, not the Nuremberg laws."
So according to you, you were asking for Obama to be prosecuted under the Nuremberg "principles". How exactly does that work?
See, either they're "laws" and Obama can be prosecuted for violating them, or they're "principles" and he can't. In other words, your explanation is as meaningless as your initial statement.
Please keep in mind my core point that Obama did not authorize a thing still stands, I'm just exploring how absurd your covering for an already absurd statement was.
Shit?
Nice. Not just making shit up for once.
Sadly you haven't been reading my posts so for at least a third time now, Obama did not authorize the strikes so there is nothing to punish him for. He literally had no role in the bombing of the hospital. The only people who can be held responsible for what happened using the laws that you list are the officers who did in fact authorize the strike, who were local in Afghanistan.
Once again for you in all caps OBAMA DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE STRIKE AGAINST THAT HOSPITAL IN AFGHANISTAN.
I'm deliberately being obtuse? You consistently just make shit up on the fly and I'm being obtuse for calling you on it. How on fucking earth would the Nuremberg trails have resulted in "laws"?
On top of that you link to a post about drone strikes that literally has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Your post is an intellectual mess that points to nothing but complete confusion.
Right. This is what I get when I look up the Nuremberg laws as you have told me to do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... , https://www.britannica.com/top...
So laws forbidding Jews and German from marrying and just generally removing rights from Jews have something to do with this how?
You're ridiculous. If Obama didn't directly authorize the action then he can't be held accountable for it anymore then a parent can't be held accountable for their grown childrens actions. Likewise, if a manager rapes a subordinate is the CEO in the wrong?
Yes, something very fucked up happened and there are people who should have been punished very severely for it but once again, Obama had nothing to do with this.
You really do just want to find fault in Obama don't you?
This is the second time in a relatively short period you've tried to demonize Obama for decisions he had nothing to do with. The authorization for the military strike came from the local command structure in Afghanistan, not from Obama ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... ) Do you really think the president of the United States is consulted every single time our arm forces shoot at something. That would be ridiculous.
So my question to you is, do you make this stuff up your self or do you just gullibly believe everything you read on front right wing "news" sites?
"The Americans are the ones who bomb countries and invade neutral nations and cause death and destruction."
Other countries do this too. Russia or Saudi Arabia are great examples of this.
" Obama holds the world record for most children murdered by drones."
You mean the president who was in office when drone tech properly matured has a record set for drone tech? How insightful of you.
I'm sure there are a number of presidents with higher child death counts (a far more reasonable metric) due to military actions such as Roosevelt, Nixon, or Johnson.
"He bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital."
Oh, our president bombed them did he? I didn't think the secret service allowed our presidents to conduct such operations.
"Suddenly China are the bad guys now?"
Not suddenly at all. They lay claim to vast amounts of ocean territory that the rest of the international community recognizes as belonging to other countries or as international waters and have so for decades. The US on the other hand has not been in the habit of attempting to annex other countries territories for over 100 years now.
In fact, China literally signed a treaty when joining the UN that recognizes the boarders they now claim are invalid.
And yet some how they've managed to create the 5th largest economy on the planet.
News flash, your problem with Californians is actually a problem with people.
"It was a tiny program before Obama ramped it up."
The only way the program may have been "ramped up" under Obama is because of the higher number of eligible people due to the massive recession that happened just before his presidency. The qualifying circumstances went unchanged under Obama.
"but it gained attention during his administration when recipients began to associate the free phone with other benefits he doled out to the poor."
Obama made zero attempts to associate his name with this program. If some people associated him with the phones they would have been doing so incorrectly as he has nothing to do with the programs creation or the creation of the qualifying metrics.
"GAO investigators also submitted fraudulent applications to see what would happen, and 12 of the 19 phone carriers they applied to approved a phone."
So the monitoring of the program that was set up, once again, before Obama took office, was not set up very well. This is the fault of those people who were responsible for widening the program to cells under Bush.
"The whole thing was widely accepted as being reparations and recipients knew who was doing it and why."
Only by those who wanted that to be true. Anyone who objectively read into the program would know that Obama had nothing to do with that program.
It's fine you don't like Obama but please find some real reasons not to like him.
Undeveloped countries don't have the infrastructure to monitor these types of things because they are undeveloped.
Also, developed countries have far more developed food safety standards because they are developed.
Really, the big clue on this is your own use of the word "developed".
They were very clearly part of federal policies that existed before Obama came into office. I've sited my own references, please site proper references for what you are claiming.
The current rise of the BJP directly correlates to increases in violence against minorities in India https://www.indiatoday.in/indi... .
Nationalists in any country have no love for those who are different.
Heh, you've been duped. That is not a normal user post or I don't know shit about anything.
I was looking at a similar post recently with similar use of bold and caps that was complaining about right wing posters while specifically talking about their own physique although in that case they went on to discuss their calf implants.
Pro tip: Any time you see such a mess of formatting in a post it's not the work of a normal user. Are they crazy? Are they propagandists? Who knows. They certainly arent worth anyone's time though.
"But when Obama bribed voters with free phones it was OK"
Are you referring to the federal lifeline program from 1985 that was broadened to cell phones in 2008 under Bush Jr.?
And right here in your lack of response is my point, true and pure. Conservatives in our country love to bad mouth leftism and socialized medicine, meanwhile there is a growing consensus that our healthcare system is broken. There is no right wing solution, meanwhile there is an easily observable left wing one that every other first world nation has adopted.
The only reason to reject this vastly more costly effective solution is ignorant philosophy before practical real world results.
Oh good, India's Nationalists are not only bribing voters but doing so in a way that they can keep can keep an eye on them.
Heaven help their minorities with this kind of nationalist bullshit.
"The $200 price point is for parents whose kids keep begging for an Xbox, but the price is just a bit out of reach."
Kids don't make money and are therefore not at all the primary drivers of gaming sales. This is well demonstrated statistically with adult titles driving overall game sales.
"As far as fast broadband not being a requirement for downloading games, I used to have 3Mbit/sec DSL, which was closer to 2Mbit/sec most of the time. Destiny 2 is a bit over 80GB, meaning that it would take nearly four days to download if I did literally nothing else with my bandwidth during that time. Fast broadband not being a requirement is, as CGP Grey would put it, "technically correct, in the most pointless kind of way".
For lower income people the time delay in downloading a game is meaningless if they are able to play the game after the fact. When you are lower income you make due. I know this from personal experience.
"Adults are talking. Sheesh."
Which is probably why you should shush up.
All you've done is made uneducated claims and now you're trying to take the "I'm being the adult" high road.
Sorry, but you're the ignorant troll in this scenario.
" I guess the lower price is for casual gamers who might jump on a $200 Xbox but not a $300 one? That also have fast broadband to download their games? Who are these people?"
Fast broadband is not at all a requirement to downloading games. Why on earth would it be? Furthermore, this lower entry point for gamers of lesser means is highly attractive as it requires a very significantly lower cost initial investment. What many of them will miss however, is that by participating in this they will be missing out on the secondary market. Unfortunately this category of consumer rarely votes, let alone flexes its muscles in any meaningful context so this subtle erosion of property rights will likely go un-noticed.
Steam for the PC is a perfect example of this. More and more, we don't own our software anymore.
Of course San Diego is not part of the "Cool-summer Mediterranean climate" zone I literally showed you. I thought you were so sensitive you could tell the difference...
Northern California native here. I never ever said San Francisco has the best weather, you're making that bullshit up yourself. North of SF, Sonoma Country for instance, has much better weather.
It was the parent that dictated SF had the best weather, not me.
Please try harder Ivan. Clearly your post is meant to be the most unsympathetic denunciation of known conservatives on Slashdot. You're not even being clever here...