Courts and juries compensate all the time. Life insurance companies do too. Actuarials have built a profession on the calculations of compensating loss of life and reduced quality of life. Businesses make financial decisions all the time based upon loss compensation risks and costs.
Go back and study Economics 101. Nobody is disputing that high prices suck in such a situation, but if you want a shortage alleviated, let the price rise to increase INCENTIVE to reduce the shortage. Although, since you prefer "tapped out," maybe improving the actual supply is not your priority.
Despite all the bickering and indignant attitude, most, if not all, fail to see the obvious. This is MacOS v. Windows again. MacOS was first to market (1984 vs 1985) and had all the goodies that the "cool kids" wanted. Microsoft came out with Windows and it was a pale imitation of the Mac System, but it ran on anybody's hardware. Apple derided Microsoft for their crappy junk. After a few iterations, Windows became the clear winner just because every hardware maker could and did bundle it on their PC for a lot less money than Apple wanted.
Google has taken a page from the Microsoft play book. Android is already way bigger than IOS. IOS market share is dropping even while raw sales are expanding. Android has parity in usability and features. The top Android phone has sales parity with the top Apple phone. The Android ecosystem is just going to expand.
As long as Apple earns massive margins on their product, more and more competitors will enter the market. This will reduce prices and steal more of Apple's customers. Many Android phone's have quality equivalent to the iPhone, and sometimes are in different ways better. Microsoft is now entering the market as a serious competitor. Apple knows this and they are pissing in their boots, They are lashing out the only way they know: litigation; just like before. They may have "invented" the smartphone or pioneered the market, but they are doomed by sheer numbers of competitors. They know it. Unless Apple can pull the next "big thing" out of their asses, they will fall back again. And Jobs won't be around to save them next time.
Internet has nothing to do with it, Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Apple started all their "i" shit when they migrated from PowerPC to Intel. Intel used to prefix the lower case "i" on their CPU chip designations prior to the (trademarked) Pentium and Apple adopted the practice to distinguish between PowerPC computers like the holdover MacMini, which was late to transition to intel, and the newer iMacs. (See "Power Mac" for differentiation)
The marketing ploy seemed to stick and next thing you know Apple is selling "i"Pods with ARM chips.
The i386 was released in 1985. The first iMac came in 1998. Intel's logo is still in all lower case.
It certainly looks to me that you are supportive of the property owners "serious about the 'no photography' policy" whose employees assaulted the "hipster retro film camera" toting trespasser. And their actions sure sound like simple assault and property theft to me. I just pointed out it is no different when a home owner or a mall owner jump you and take your stuff.
Did I misunderstand? Are you now saying instead that it's wrong for a photographer to be assaulted in a mall? Is vigilante justice wrong for everyone or just the peons who can't afford rent-a-cops?
Why don't you come over to my house and try to take a picture or exhibit some "other" behavior that I deem unacceptable in my home. See if you feel the same way when me and three other big guys throw you to the ground and forcibly take your property by cutting it off you back,
I am surprised at how idiots think assault is "okay" when a corporation's representatives does it on their property just cause they decide they don't like your attitude.
It is almost invariable that those with a strong bias will twist facts to suit their own personal biases. You have taken indisputable facts which were electronically recorded at the time of the incident and altered them to suit your viewpoint. If this is how you treat reliable facts, are you credible to make judgments on the facts in real dispute???
Here is the 911 transcript relevant portion. Show me where he was ordered (your words) to "stand down" and when he said, "No, I'm not letting him get away." I know the actual facts are a bit of a nuisance in the way of painting Zimmerman as a homicidal psychopath stalking someone. From the 911 Transcript:
911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]
Zimmerman:
George. He ran.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, what’s your last name?
Zimmerman:
Zimmerman.
911 dispatcher:
What’s the phone number you’re calling from?
Zimmerman:
407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:
Yeah.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman:
Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]
No it isn't. You cannot unilaterally declare something illegal and hold someone against their will because YOU say it's illegal. You can make it a condition of admittance and remove those who do not follow your rules, but you can't just imprison someone because you don't like their LEGAL behavior.
ORC 2905.02 Abduction.
(A) No person, without privilege to do so, shall knowingly do any of the following:
(1) By force or threat, remove another from the place where the other person is found;
(2) By force or threat, restrain the liberty of another person under circumstances that create a risk of physical harm to the victim or place the other person in fear;
Being pissed off about a camera does not grant privilege. You are right about one thing. Private property, private rules. You can disallow anything you want on your property, but you can't prevent someone from leaving if they have done nothing illegal. and as I said, PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT ILLEGAL.
Citizen's arrests and a store detective detaining shoplifters are NOT abduction because the person detained did something illegal. As I said earlier...
And make you delete the picture. If you refuse, they can hold you as you are on their property, subject to their rules.
Not in my state. That sort of thing is called felony abduction. You can't just hold someone against their will because you don't like what they do. If they are suspected of theft, you can detain them until the authorities arrive, but if they are just taking pictures and you decide to hold them, I'd be looking for a good lawyer. You can kick them out, keep the admission, and refuse to let them back in ever.
Your hypothetical casino is an example of theft. Photography is not illegal.
Well it is mine, and that's exactly how I initially parsed it. It doesn't help that titles are all capitalized obscuring the clue that the proper noun "Sharp" is not an adjective in this instance.
Whoa Hoss. Just stop right there. In my state the district can place a tax levy on the ballot, but the voters decide. And just who do you think the "district" is anyway? It's your friends and neighbors that give up their time and effort to do the job that your bitching about. Fuckwit...
It's absolutely ridiculous that teachers can make $25,000 a year or more. Without unions, we would see teacher salaries go down to something more commeasurate with their work, and something that local governments can actually afford.
This kind of shit is why I no longer self identify as a Republican anymore. Teachers are overpaid at $25,000???? I guess you think all US labor should be minimum wage so capital can get richer. Son, that's what starts revolutions...
Republicans used to be about limited government, now it's all about the race to the bottom. I am astonished at the uneducated lemmings that have taken over the party.
--> No sense of value
--> No understanding of economics
--> No recollection of history
It's been a while since I was an undergrad, but I just finished up a master's this summer. Some profs are getting wise to all that textbook churn-for-the-sake-of-profit shit. At least at the graduate level, I found that most were more than accommodating for multiple versions including international editions of textbooks. The days of playing games with annualized textbook editions are numbered.
One of my friends is a department chair and he had a former student return as a textbook rep. He told the poor guy that he was on the wrong side of history.
I just left AT&T for a SIM only plan on Straight Talk. I now pay $45 per month for UNLIMITED minutes, UNLIMITED texts, and UNLIMITED data. If I want to pay for a year up front, it goes down to $41 per month. I started out using my 3 year-old phone but I recently bought a used iPhone. I am extremely happy. Sounds like you could save at bare minimum $11 (19.6%) per month , and have the benefit of not being locked into a two year indentured servitude. Also, you and your friends will not have to be tied together, so if relationships go sour, some poor bastard's not on the hook for a $280 phone bill each month.
Incidentally, I was paying AT&T almost $45 per month for my 450 minutes and *NO* text or data. Switching or not didn't require a PhD to figure out.
I was asked to look at someone's computer because it was "running slow." It was just as I described. After "booting" for 20 minutes (the disk was still thrashing and stuff was still popping up on the taskbar) it responded enough for me start killing autostart items and disabling virus checkers. I forced a restart at 30 minutes as it never finished booting. The second boot was a bit quicker, but I spent the next hour or two removing crap. He couldn't believe it was the same machine when I was done.
I couldn't believe he actually used it. Even with 3 virus checkers, Malware-Bytes found a couple of trojans.
Amen brother! It's all about time and availability.
I tried to get something from Home Depot last week. According to the website, they had three in stock at my local store. I stopped there and they had a big old empty shelf. I stopped at Lowes on the way back home. They didn't even carry it. I ordered it on Amazon when I got back and had it in two days. The bonus was that is was cheaper than Home Depot's advertised price.
Year before last I did all my Christmas shopping online for the first time. Every bit. It had nothing to do with cheap. I was taking three concurrent graduate courses, working full time, and my father was dying of cancer. I spent every minute I could with him. Last year I did it again because I realized I was way better off doing all my shopping in a couple of hours at home and have it delivered to my door than spending weeks fighting the crowds.
he was paying more, wholesale, than wal*mart was charging retail.
It's worse than that. Walmart holds on to the money you pay for months before paying the supplier. They get to draw interest on the balance. If your local store misses its net 30, guess how many suppliers it will have next month?
its just insane how much power you get nowadays for little money.
You are clearly not running the requisite 3 antivirus programs, 2 ad blockers, and 3 HP scanner/printer drivers along with all the other "free" software pre-loaded on a modern PC. We need MORE power!
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Courts and juries compensate all the time. Life insurance companies do too. Actuarials have built a profession on the calculations of compensating loss of life and reduced quality of life. Businesses make financial decisions all the time based upon loss compensation risks and costs.
It's absurd to pretend it doesn't exist.
Your nick is very apt.
Go back and study Economics 101. Nobody is disputing that high prices suck in such a situation, but if you want a shortage alleviated, let the price rise to increase INCENTIVE to reduce the shortage. Although, since you prefer "tapped out," maybe improving the actual supply is not your priority.
Despite all the bickering and indignant attitude, most, if not all, fail to see the obvious. This is MacOS v. Windows again. MacOS was first to market (1984 vs 1985) and had all the goodies that the "cool kids" wanted. Microsoft came out with Windows and it was a pale imitation of the Mac System, but it ran on anybody's hardware. Apple derided Microsoft for their crappy junk. After a few iterations, Windows became the clear winner just because every hardware maker could and did bundle it on their PC for a lot less money than Apple wanted.
Google has taken a page from the Microsoft play book. Android is already way bigger than IOS. IOS market share is dropping even while raw sales are expanding. Android has parity in usability and features. The top Android phone has sales parity with the top Apple phone. The Android ecosystem is just going to expand.
As long as Apple earns massive margins on their product, more and more competitors will enter the market. This will reduce prices and steal more of Apple's customers. Many Android phone's have quality equivalent to the iPhone, and sometimes are in different ways better. Microsoft is now entering the market as a serious competitor. Apple knows this and they are pissing in their boots, They are lashing out the only way they know: litigation; just like before. They may have "invented" the smartphone or pioneered the market, but they are doomed by sheer numbers of competitors. They know it. Unless Apple can pull the next "big thing" out of their asses, they will fall back again. And Jobs won't be around to save them next time.
Posting to undo a bad click
Internet has nothing to do with it, Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Apple started all their "i" shit when they migrated from PowerPC to Intel. Intel used to prefix the lower case "i" on their CPU chip designations prior to the (trademarked) Pentium and Apple adopted the practice to distinguish between PowerPC computers like the holdover MacMini, which was late to transition to intel, and the newer iMacs. (See "Power Mac" for differentiation)
The marketing ploy seemed to stick and next thing you know Apple is selling "i"Pods with ARM chips.
The i386 was released in 1985. The first iMac came in 1998. Intel's logo is still in all lower case.
Strawman?
It certainly looks to me that you are supportive of the property owners "serious about the 'no photography' policy" whose employees assaulted the "hipster retro film camera" toting trespasser. And their actions sure sound like simple assault and property theft to me. I just pointed out it is no different when a home owner or a mall owner jump you and take your stuff.
Did I misunderstand? Are you now saying instead that it's wrong for a photographer to be assaulted in a mall? Is vigilante justice wrong for everyone or just the peons who can't afford rent-a-cops?
Why don't you come over to my house and try to take a picture or exhibit some "other" behavior that I deem unacceptable in my home. See if you feel the same way when me and three other big guys throw you to the ground and forcibly take your property by cutting it off you back,
I am surprised at how idiots think assault is "okay" when a corporation's representatives does it on their property just cause they decide they don't like your attitude.
Here is the 911 transcript relevant portion. Show me where he was ordered (your words) to "stand down" and when he said, "No, I'm not letting him get away." I know the actual facts are a bit of a nuisance in the way of painting Zimmerman as a homicidal psychopath stalking someone.
From the 911 Transcript:
911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]
Zimmerman:
George. He ran.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, what’s your last name?
Zimmerman:
Zimmerman.
911 dispatcher:
What’s the phone number you’re calling from?
Zimmerman:
407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:
Yeah.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman:
Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e02-smug-alert
Of all the days not to have mod points... You have hit the nail on the head. It's also the reason assholes and con artists are so successful.
No it isn't. You cannot unilaterally declare something illegal and hold someone against their will because YOU say it's illegal. You can make it a condition of admittance and remove those who do not follow your rules, but you can't just imprison someone because you don't like their LEGAL behavior.
ORC 2905.02 Abduction.
(A) No person, without privilege to do so, shall knowingly do any of the following:
(1) By force or threat, remove another from the place where the other person is found;
(2) By force or threat, restrain the liberty of another person under circumstances that create a risk of physical harm to the victim or place the other person in fear;
Being pissed off about a camera does not grant privilege. You are right about one thing. Private property, private rules. You can disallow anything you want on your property, but you can't prevent someone from leaving if they have done nothing illegal. and as I said, PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT ILLEGAL.
Citizen's arrests and a store detective detaining shoplifters are NOT abduction because the person detained did something illegal. As I said earlier...
Not in my state. That sort of thing is called felony abduction. You can't just hold someone against their will because you don't like what they do. If they are suspected of theft, you can detain them until the authorities arrive, but if they are just taking pictures and you decide to hold them, I'd be looking for a good lawyer. You can kick them out, keep the admission, and refuse to let them back in ever.
Your hypothetical casino is an example of theft. Photography is not illegal.
Well it is mine, and that's exactly how I initially parsed it. It doesn't help that titles are all capitalized obscuring the clue that the proper noun "Sharp" is not an adjective in this instance.
You forgot monosodium poisonate and partially de-weaponized plutonium.
Whoa Hoss. Just stop right there. In my state the district can place a tax levy on the ballot, but the voters decide. And just who do you think the "district" is anyway? It's your friends and neighbors that give up their time and effort to do the job that your bitching about. Fuckwit...
This kind of shit is why I no longer self identify as a Republican anymore. Teachers are overpaid at $25,000???? I guess you think all US labor should be minimum wage so capital can get richer. Son, that's what starts revolutions...
Republicans used to be about limited government, now it's all about the race to the bottom. I am astonished at the uneducated lemmings that have taken over the party.
--> No sense of value
--> No understanding of economics
--> No recollection of history
It's truly incredible...
It's been a while since I was an undergrad, but I just finished up a master's this summer. Some profs are getting wise to all that textbook churn-for-the-sake-of-profit shit. At least at the graduate level, I found that most were more than accommodating for multiple versions including international editions of textbooks. The days of playing games with annualized textbook editions are numbered.
One of my friends is a department chair and he had a former student return as a textbook rep. He told the poor guy that he was on the wrong side of history.
They used to call these things chastity belts.
Not Quick Draw. El Kabong could have though!
For very large values of nothing.
I just left AT&T for a SIM only plan on Straight Talk. I now pay $45 per month for UNLIMITED minutes, UNLIMITED texts, and UNLIMITED data. If I want to pay for a year up front, it goes down to $41 per month. I started out using my 3 year-old phone but I recently bought a used iPhone. I am extremely happy. Sounds like you could save at bare minimum $11 (19.6%) per month , and have the benefit of not being locked into a two year indentured servitude. Also, you and your friends will not have to be tied together, so if relationships go sour, some poor bastard's not on the hook for a $280 phone bill each month.
Incidentally, I was paying AT&T almost $45 per month for my 450 minutes and *NO* text or data. Switching or not didn't require a PhD to figure out.
Yeah, I'm joking. Kind of..
I was asked to look at someone's computer because it was "running slow." It was just as I described. After "booting" for 20 minutes (the disk was still thrashing and stuff was still popping up on the taskbar) it responded enough for me start killing autostart items and disabling virus checkers. I forced a restart at 30 minutes as it never finished booting. The second boot was a bit quicker, but I spent the next hour or two removing crap. He couldn't believe it was the same machine when I was done.
I couldn't believe he actually used it. Even with 3 virus checkers, Malware-Bytes found a couple of trojans.
Amen brother! It's all about time and availability.
I tried to get something from Home Depot last week. According to the website, they had three in stock at my local store. I stopped there and they had a big old empty shelf. I stopped at Lowes on the way back home. They didn't even carry it. I ordered it on Amazon when I got back and had it in two days. The bonus was that is was cheaper than Home Depot's advertised price.
Year before last I did all my Christmas shopping online for the first time. Every bit. It had nothing to do with cheap. I was taking three concurrent graduate courses, working full time, and my father was dying of cancer. I spent every minute I could with him. Last year I did it again because I realized I was way better off doing all my shopping in a couple of hours at home and have it delivered to my door than spending weeks fighting the crowds.
It's worse than that. Walmart holds on to the money you pay for months before paying the supplier. They get to draw interest on the balance. If your local store misses its net 30, guess how many suppliers it will have next month?
Uh oh. Next thing you know they'll be striking for...
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You are clearly not running the requisite 3 antivirus programs, 2 ad blockers, and 3 HP scanner/printer drivers along with all the other "free" software pre-loaded on a modern PC. We need MORE power!