You can run gnome or kde on netbsd but a lot of the nice integrated tools like user management probably won't work. I run ubuntu on my laptops because all those things do work there but I also have a unix workstation which I use for quietly plugging away on development or administration. I mainly run standard X tools, though GTK applications run fine, I just have to remember to start dbus as a daemon, and I have to pull in a lot of packages.
For me the best thing about netbsd is that I can get a machine going very fast. I can install a server in five minutes, and have it doing useful work in ten minutes.
You can get heaps of stuff from pkgsrc but you might occasionally run into things which don't work because they need to be ported rather than just compiled and made available.
Where I work, we replaced a couple of PDP-11 computers with PCs for the energy savings alone, even if there was a cost associated with migrating the software.
Especially since your phone probably has more power than a VAX, if not I/O capacity.
It depends what you mean by IO capacity. DEC machines (PDP-11s, VAXen, Alphas) had fantastic IO capacity in their extensible backplanes. These days you would use an external multiplexer. With a DEC machine you just load up the bus with devices.
How does that go? Ah yes.
Bus address, then interrupt vector
160010 400
160020 410
160030 430
160040 440
160050 450
160060 460
160070 470
160100 500
160110 510 ...and so on
It would be interesting if these people turned out to have a use for iron. Another thing to note is that Perak is known for tin mining. Tin is easier to work than iron so they may have had a use for it.
Distilling your idea: Setup cell phone towers in prisons. The phones will connect to these towers since they are the strongest. Make these towers "dead" cells".
If the phone is in a radio reflecting room (a jail cell?) the signal may bounce around enough to make it impossible to locate the phone to the nearest metre.
Back when I worked on VMS one of our windows developers trotted up with a VLC. Apparently his friend had bought one at an auction, and assumed he could throw windows on it. Its a shame I didn't know about NetBSD at the time (it would have been in version. 1.* or so).
Yes I though about that. CO2 will actually have zero warming effect because it is a solid at Titan surface temperatures. Environmentalists may complain about carbon fog.
No to mention a population and land size about a zillion times larger. That complicates public service/standards programs.
I don't think scale is the issue. Resources to push change scale with population as well. Political power in the US is divided between three levels of Government over 50 odd states and lots (I have no idea) of local government areas. I can see that it would be hard to get all those people to agree on anything.
It has been horrible this week. It has been about the second or third hottest week on record. When it is 45C (~110 F) there is little to do apart from sit around and stew in the heat.
The city's power supply has maxed out at 10000 MW because of demand from aircons. There is talk of introducing new power meters which charge higher prices when demand goes through the roof.
On top of that we have had a run of bad luck. A truck got stuck with locked up air brakes on a train crossing. Half a million people couldn't get home. Rails buckled in the heat close to one of the central city stations and stopped a lot of trains as well.
"Attention! Zero Gravity Toilet! Read these instructions carefully!"
Its easier when you are half way to the moon (and the only passenger). Reading the instructions and using the toilet might be difficult on a parabolic hop.
This unique testing environment can be provided in an aircraft flying repeated parabolic trajectories which create brief periods of zero gravity.
Speaking of mental images, I cracked up imagining them trying to choreograph a fight sequence in such a parabolic flight: What happens as gravity returns and they are still floating in the air?
Exactly the same thing as when gravity is there all the time.
Keeping fingers crossed for this fire in Churchill Park. I was in Tasmania last week and saw a big area south of Launceston where fire had taken out transmission lines. It looked like hot work putting new pylons up and stringing new cable. In this case I believe the conductivity of ionised gas below the transmission line can cause an apparent short to ground and take out the power supply.
Where I work there are three main ways that IE webapps get procured:
Our IT contractor provides the tool. If you complain they just say they only support IE and that is the end of the issue.
Non technical business groups buy the tool. Technical details like supported browsers are left to the supplier. Typically these tools have so many bugs that html standards are the least of your worries.
Somebody in house develops a tool, most likely with the idea of bootstraping themselves into a better job elsewhere. To accomplish this they get the company too pay for a new you beaut tool which goes straight on to their resume.
I personally find a small, subset of html to be perfectly fine for a web app. As long as you can lay stuff out and get the colors straight it works perfectly well. I have absolutely no idea why so many people want to go the other way. Except possibly the last group I mentioned who seem to think it sounds more professional to say "we support these browsers".
No what we really need is a truth serum. Its more direct that way but don't hand out any overdoses because the results can be very bad as DNA pointed out some years ago.
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Hi zogger long time no see ;)
You can run gnome or kde on netbsd but a lot of the nice integrated tools like user management probably won't work. I run ubuntu on my laptops because all those things do work there but I also have a unix workstation which I use for quietly plugging away on development or administration. I mainly run standard X tools, though GTK applications run fine, I just have to remember to start dbus as a daemon, and I have to pull in a lot of packages.
For me the best thing about netbsd is that I can get a machine going very fast. I can install a server in five minutes, and have it doing useful work in ten minutes.
You can get heaps of stuff from pkgsrc but you might occasionally run into things which don't work because they need to be ported rather than just compiled and made available.
Where I work, we replaced a couple of PDP-11 computers with PCs for the energy savings alone, even if there was a cost associated with migrating the software.
Especially since your phone probably has more power than a VAX, if not I/O capacity.
It depends what you mean by IO capacity. DEC machines (PDP-11s, VAXen, Alphas) had fantastic IO capacity in their extensible backplanes. These days you would use an external multiplexer. With a DEC machine you just load up the bus with devices.
...and so on
How does that go? Ah yes.
Bus address, then interrupt vector
160010 400
160020 410
160030 430
160040 440
160050 450
160060 460
160070 470
160100 500
160110 510
It would be interesting if these people turned out to have a use for iron. Another thing to note is that Perak is known for tin mining. Tin is easier to work than iron so they may have had a use for it.
Distilling your idea: Setup cell phone towers in prisons. The phones will connect to these towers since they are the strongest. Make these towers "dead" cells".
Maybe thats how jammers work.
In Pulp Fiction... he hid that cell phone up his ass for TWO YEARS from the Vietcong.
His watch.
Carrier pigeon, obviously.
If the phone is in a radio reflecting room (a jail cell?) the signal may bounce around enough to make it impossible to locate the phone to the nearest metre.
Back when I worked on VMS one of our windows developers trotted up with a VLC. Apparently his friend had bought one at an auction, and assumed he could throw windows on it. Its a shame I didn't know about NetBSD at the time (it would have been in version. 1.* or so).
Yes I though about that. CO2 will actually have zero warming effect because it is a solid at Titan surface temperatures. Environmentalists may complain about carbon fog.
Or Imperial Earth by ACC.
...is fossil oxygen in liquid form reachable by drilling.
No to mention a population and land size about a zillion times larger. That complicates public service/standards programs.
I don't think scale is the issue. Resources to push change scale with population as well. Political power in the US is divided between three levels of Government over 50 odd states and lots (I have no idea) of local government areas. I can see that it would be hard to get all those people to agree on anything.
It has been horrible this week. It has been about the second or third hottest week on record. When it is 45C (~110 F) there is little to do apart from sit around and stew in the heat.
The city's power supply has maxed out at 10000 MW because of demand from aircons. There is talk of introducing new power meters which charge higher prices when demand goes through the roof.
On top of that we have had a run of bad luck. A truck got stuck with locked up air brakes on a train crossing. Half a million people couldn't get home. Rails buckled in the heat close to one of the central city stations and stopped a lot of trains as well.
In short, not a good week to be here.
"Attention! Zero Gravity Toilet! Read these instructions carefully!"
Its easier when you are half way to the moon (and the only passenger). Reading the instructions and using the toilet might be difficult on a parabolic hop.
This unique testing environment can be provided in an aircraft flying repeated parabolic trajectories which create brief periods of zero gravity.
Speaking of mental images, I cracked up imagining them trying to choreograph a fight sequence in such a parabolic flight: What happens as gravity returns and they are still floating in the air?
Exactly the same thing as when gravity is there all the time.
Keeping fingers crossed for this fire in Churchill Park. I was in Tasmania last week and saw a big area south of Launceston where fire had taken out transmission lines. It looked like hot work putting new pylons up and stringing new cable. In this case I believe the conductivity of ionised gas below the transmission line can cause an apparent short to ground and take out the power supply.
Mmmm durians.
I personally find a small, subset of html to be perfectly fine for a web app. As long as you can lay stuff out and get the colors straight it works perfectly well. I have absolutely no idea why so many people want to go the other way. Except possibly the last group I mentioned who seem to think it sounds more professional to say "we support these browsers".
I was going to do that ;) now where did my mice get to?
They should do it with positrons.
I have seen ambulance officers here in Victoria, Australia using hardened laptops. I took a peek and they appear to run windows.
Nonsense. Unless you're using bleeding edge UI widgets, a browser UI is quite easy to replicate accross browsers
Of course it is, but it doesn't seem to happen that way. Web apps at my workplace which have been purchased from outside all require IE.
It's all pretend "science" with cool moving needles and wires, but you might as well be watching a seismograph for all the good it does you.
Not true! Seismographs give you useful information.
And the Higgs boson will be swallowed by a micro black hole before the LHC has the chance to detect anything :)
Thats okay we've got plenty of spare Bosons.
No what we really need is a truth serum. Its more direct that way but don't hand out any overdoses because the results can be very bad as DNA pointed out some years ago.