Then I suppose the developers should fix the memory management issues with the Windows builds. No other Windows program performs (or doesn't) like Firefox.
As for the specs... no, that was inserted for the people who would pipe up with "Well duh, if you're running a Celeron 400 with 128 MB of RAM".
I gave Firefox a chance. Hell, I used it from the pre-0.x days until about 1.0.3, and now I refuse to use it. The developers have had ample time to optimize the browser and its memory management, but they haven't.
I find it unacceptable that after about 6-7 days of uptime, with all tabs closed and a single blank page open, Firefox is using 200+ MB of physical memory, and even more virtual memory. WTF? Firefox is a slow, bloated bitch. Fanboys flame away.
I'll have a Firefox window with about 8 tabs open, I'll minimize it, and then go play a game. When I quit the game 1-2 hours later, and try to bring FIrefox back up, the chugging begins. It takes about a minute to bring the Firefox window back up, my hard drive being slammed, all while other minimized programs open flawlessly and swiftly (Trillian, Outlook 2003, Photoshop, and so on). With a 2.4 GHz Athlon 64, 2 GB of DDR400, and two 7200 RPM 8 MB cache drives in RAID 0, I find this completely unacceptable.
Needless to say, I switched to Opera on my Windows box, and I exclusively use only Safari on my iBook and Mac Mini.
This article is a complete gongshow. The crux of this guy's argument is the following:
1. SuSE 9.3 64-bit didn't work well with a modern laptop. Waaah.
2. He couldn't find a consumer-level PCMCIA WiFi card that would work in Linux. Waaah.
Remind me again how this is Microsoft's fault, and not the fault of the kernel developers/distro makers? Let me contrast this to a little something I hear on Slashdot a lot...
"I installed Linux, but it wouldn't work with my ______! Linux sucks!" Crowd response: "Don't blame Linux! Blame the hardware manufacturers!"
Well, come on kids, say it with me now... blame the hardware manufacturers! Blame the kernel developers for not being able to maintain a stable driver API. Smaller hardware manufacturers don't want to waste their time and money developing drivers that will only be deliberately broken with the next kernel update. Fix that problem, and the drivers will start flowing in.
The author of this article really needs to step back to look at his false point of view. This has nothing to do with Microsoft, and everything to do with Linux's shortcomings in hardware support. Would you go to the store, buy a piece of hardware, and then scream bloody murder when you find out that it doesn't work with your OMG-OPTIMIZED GENTOO RICE EDITION?
No. You would RESEARCH the available hardware, pick something that enjoys good Linux support, and THEN go buy it.
Are you kidding? Both KDE and GNOME feel like a sluggish mess compared to Windows 2000/XP on the same hardware. Hell, even OS X on my 1.33 GHz iBook feels faster than either KDE or GNOME on my 2.4 GHz Athlon 64 with 2 GB of RAM.
I think that one of the responses given here were pretty accurate... you are a fucking moron yourself. I'm not trying to present an argument to an opposing party. This is not a debate. I'm just re-iterating a past event in my own words.
I saw the entirety of a back-and-forth e-mail conversation that a 14-year-old gamer had with this moron. It was hot on the heels of the Hot Coffee debacle, and the kid was actually very well-spoken. He brought up excellent arguments, rebutted points made by Thompson, and continued to press his original point.
Thompson kept trying to weave out of the argument, and eventually ended up calling him names, telling him to grow up because he was just a pathetic child, and other crap unbecoming of an attorney. The kid completely won the argument by not only proving that gamers were not just idiotic 14-year-old kids, but also because Thompson resorted to mere name-calling when he couldn't win his argument.
Vonage VoIP ads are why I block all ads now. Enough said.
While reading/trolling OSnews, at times I'd find myself being spammed by no less than 3-4 Vonage ads, all of them with the fucking annoying warped/retarded-looking people saying something stupid.
It was at that point that I broke out Safari, found an ad-blocked hosts file, broke out Terminal, vim/etc/hosts, and pasted that bitch in. No more Vonage, no more Flash sucking up my precious iBook's battery life.
The site's already down, but based on the small blurb... I don't see how this is possible. You're basically guessing at 50% of the scene, of which the only hints you have are land/sky textures.
If that's all this is about, I've been doing it for years in Photoshop. It's called the Clone/Healing Brush tool.
How are the GNU tools superior? Have you ever even read the GNU man pages vs. the BSD man pages? The BSD man pages are always complete and 99.9% correct. The GNU man pages are filled with "TODO!" and "Not finished".
You call this quality software?
This raises interesting questions about how Skype and eBay together will try to avert cyber criminals from using security flaws in either system to their advantage.
Umm... what? How does it raise questions? If some cyber criminal is plotting something with his buddies over Skype, I don't care WHAT eBay does or HOW they do it -- it's criminals we're talking about.
Of course, this just seems like another classic case of Slashdot-entitlement: "Waah, waah, I'm a criminal, I steal credit card numbers, I trade child pornography... BUT DAMNIT I STILL DESERVE THE RIGHT TO UNMONITORED E-MAIL/IM CONVERSATIONS!1!11!!~"
Virus updates... nope, no virus scanner
Spyware removal... nope
Hot fixes... hey, I stop by at WU once a month, it takes 5-10 minutes of my day
Reboots... not since last month's WU
Yeah, so apparently I'm capable of keeping my "Windoze" PC free of spyware and viruses. That doesn't say much about your intelligence. Downloading britneyspearsnude.jpg.gif.exe is *bad*.
Nice attempt at a troll, though. Go masturbate to some hot anime-style female Tux drawings.
Nah, I very much enjoy my Mini running OS X, laptop running XP, and server running Server 2003. My time has value. I can't be wasting it compiling kernels and editing config files all day long.
I was aware of that fact while writing my comment. The truth of the matter is that there are only two countries left out there who are using the silly Imperial system, and only because they're too proud/stubborn to just suck it up and switch to metric.
As for LSB... we have what... 8 distros using it in one form or another, and about 500 that aren't? Thanks for trying. Play again?
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Why not use Linux over Windows or Mac? Because most people's computer use extends beyond successfully booting their operating system along with working sound/network/graphics. That is all. Kthx.
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Then I suppose the developers should fix the memory management issues with the Windows builds. No other Windows program performs (or doesn't) like Firefox.
... no, that was inserted for the people who would pipe up with "Well duh, if you're running a Celeron 400 with 128 MB of RAM".
As for the specs
I gave Firefox a chance. Hell, I used it from the pre-0.x days until about 1.0.3, and now I refuse to use it. The developers have had ample time to optimize the browser and its memory management, but they haven't. I find it unacceptable that after about 6-7 days of uptime, with all tabs closed and a single blank page open, Firefox is using 200+ MB of physical memory, and even more virtual memory. WTF? Firefox is a slow, bloated bitch. Fanboys flame away. I'll have a Firefox window with about 8 tabs open, I'll minimize it, and then go play a game. When I quit the game 1-2 hours later, and try to bring FIrefox back up, the chugging begins. It takes about a minute to bring the Firefox window back up, my hard drive being slammed, all while other minimized programs open flawlessly and swiftly (Trillian, Outlook 2003, Photoshop, and so on). With a 2.4 GHz Athlon 64, 2 GB of DDR400, and two 7200 RPM 8 MB cache drives in RAID 0, I find this completely unacceptable. Needless to say, I switched to Opera on my Windows box, and I exclusively use only Safari on my iBook and Mac Mini.
This article is a complete gongshow. The crux of this guy's argument is the following:
...
... blame the hardware manufacturers! Blame the kernel developers for not being able to maintain a stable driver API. Smaller hardware manufacturers don't want to waste their time and money developing drivers that will only be deliberately broken with the next kernel update. Fix that problem, and the drivers will start flowing in.
1. SuSE 9.3 64-bit didn't work well with a modern laptop. Waaah.
2. He couldn't find a consumer-level PCMCIA WiFi card that would work in Linux. Waaah.
Remind me again how this is Microsoft's fault, and not the fault of the kernel developers/distro makers? Let me contrast this to a little something I hear on Slashdot a lot
"I installed Linux, but it wouldn't work with my ______! Linux sucks!"
Crowd response: "Don't blame Linux! Blame the hardware manufacturers!"
Well, come on kids, say it with me now
The author of this article really needs to step back to look at his false point of view. This has nothing to do with Microsoft, and everything to do with Linux's shortcomings in hardware support. Would you go to the store, buy a piece of hardware, and then scream bloody murder when you find out that it doesn't work with your OMG-OPTIMIZED GENTOO RICE EDITION?
No. You would RESEARCH the available hardware, pick something that enjoys good Linux support, and THEN go buy it.
Geez.
Are you kidding? Both KDE and GNOME feel like a sluggish mess compared to Windows 2000/XP on the same hardware. Hell, even OS X on my 1.33 GHz iBook feels faster than either KDE or GNOME on my 2.4 GHz Athlon 64 with 2 GB of RAM.
Whooosh. Someone didn't read the thread.
I think that one of the responses given here were pretty accurate ... you are a fucking moron yourself. I'm not trying to present an argument to an opposing party. This is not a debate. I'm just re-iterating a past event in my own words.
Naaarf.
I can't find the original forum where it was posted, but it's been posted all over the Internet. Use this Google query: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+found+a+link+t o+your+site%22+stopkill
I saw the entirety of a back-and-forth e-mail conversation that a 14-year-old gamer had with this moron. It was hot on the heels of the Hot Coffee debacle, and the kid was actually very well-spoken. He brought up excellent arguments, rebutted points made by Thompson, and continued to press his original point.
Thompson kept trying to weave out of the argument, and eventually ended up calling him names, telling him to grow up because he was just a pathetic child, and other crap unbecoming of an attorney. The kid completely won the argument by not only proving that gamers were not just idiotic 14-year-old kids, but also because Thompson resorted to mere name-calling when he couldn't win his argument.
What a fucking moron.
Points for anyone who can somehow spin this story into an anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux frothing-at-the-mouth post. Twitter? Anyone?
Vonage VoIP ads are why I block all ads now. Enough said.
/etc/hosts, and pasted that bitch in. No more Vonage, no more Flash sucking up my precious iBook's battery life.
While reading/trolling OSnews, at times I'd find myself being spammed by no less than 3-4 Vonage ads, all of them with the fucking annoying warped/retarded-looking people saying something stupid.
It was at that point that I broke out Safari, found an ad-blocked hosts file, broke out Terminal, vim
The site's already down, but based on the small blurb ... I don't see how this is possible. You're basically guessing at 50% of the scene, of which the only hints you have are land/sky textures.
If that's all this is about, I've been doing it for years in Photoshop. It's called the Clone/Healing Brush tool.
How are the GNU tools superior? Have you ever even read the GNU man pages vs. the BSD man pages? The BSD man pages are always complete and 99.9% correct. The GNU man pages are filled with "TODO!" and "Not finished". You call this quality software?
This raises interesting questions about how Skype and eBay together will try to avert cyber criminals from using security flaws in either system to their advantage.
... what? How does it raise questions? If some cyber criminal is plotting something with his buddies over Skype, I don't care WHAT eBay does or HOW they do it -- it's criminals we're talking about.
... BUT DAMNIT I STILL DESERVE THE RIGHT TO UNMONITORED E-MAIL/IM CONVERSATIONS!1!11!!~"
Umm
Of course, this just seems like another classic case of Slashdot-entitlement: "Waah, waah, I'm a criminal, I steal credit card numbers, I trade child pornography
I'm thinking maybe he spent too much time shampooing and combing his lustrous mane rather than coding. Then again Commander Keen *did* own.
Try jumping on the clue train some time.
Virus updates ... nope, no virus scanner
Spyware removal ... nope
Hot fixes ... hey, I stop by at WU once a month, it takes 5-10 minutes of my day
Reboots ... not since last month's WU
Yeah, so apparently I'm capable of keeping my "Windoze" PC free of spyware and viruses. That doesn't say much about your intelligence. Downloading britneyspearsnude.jpg.gif.exe is *bad*.
Nice attempt at a troll, though. Go masturbate to some hot anime-style female Tux drawings.
Nah, I very much enjoy my Mini running OS X, laptop running XP, and server running Server 2003. My time has value. I can't be wasting it compiling kernels and editing config files all day long.
Alright, sure. Revision: A standard is a standard only when a great majority is using it.
I was aware of that fact while writing my comment. The truth of the matter is that there are only two countries left out there who are using the silly Imperial system, and only because they're too proud/stubborn to just suck it up and switch to metric. As for LSB ... we have what ... 8 distros using it in one form or another, and about 500 that aren't? Thanks for trying. Play again?
A standard is a standard when everyone is using it. Just calling it one doesn't make it so.
Re: Your Sig Why not use Linux over Windows or Mac? Because most people's computer use extends beyond successfully booting their operating system along with working sound/network/graphics. That is all. Kthx.