The analogy doesn't fit. It's being debated left and right here, but it doesn't fit at all.
It is ok to use http over tcp-ip to hit the machine, noone has a problem with that... But suddenly it isn't ok to use sql over tcp to hit that same machine?
As much as I hate the "breaking and entering" analogy (if the digital age has brought us anything, it's the persistent and accepted use of HORRIBLE analogies), this would be like saying that it's ok to take your friend's milk out of the fridge, but *don't* touch the fruit.
If I fire up an MSSQL client and connect to someone's database which is sitting wide open on the internet, how am I breaking the law?
I'm using a client to access information which is publically available on the internet. How is it any different to use a DB client instead of an HTTP client?
we listen to a looping mp3 of waves crashing on the beach or a river flowing over rocks while we sleep every night.
the waves are really the best thing, since research has shown that it sounds much like everything sounded when we were inside the womb....
the river sounds have a similar effect, and are a nice change after listening to the waves for a couple of months.
when we lived in oregon for a year, we actually had a tin roof, and of course it rained all the time, so we didn't need the extra sounds.... but now, we're back to the mp3s again.
we have an x10 remotemouse that we use to launch the thing, so that when we are laying in bed watching TV and decide it's time to drift off, we can just hit a button on the remote and it launches the playlist.
I would consider it to be "doomed" -- you couldn't pay me enough to be a "chief" anything.
You're basically the fall guy. You're expected to be available to all of your employees 24/7 in my experience, and if there are weak links anywhere in your chain, well, it's your responsibility.
Yay, so you make a lot of money, you run up a lot of debts, you get some ludicrous credit and generally screw yourself with it. Again, this has just been what I've seen in my personal experience.
And then, no matter how well you've done, the board can and will just decide to send you packing on a whim. You're the most visible target when they come looking for heads to roll.
So if you can't make money on Linux, and support is a shaky business, can someone tell us why, in a capitalistic society, any business would pin their hopes on Linux?
The time for "because it's sexy" is well-past now, thank God.
offtopic? what? not that I care, because karma isn't going to buy me food, and I'm at the cap anyway, but....
playstation. living room. boots linux. can be used as an mp3 player, or to run mame, or any other of a million emulators, thereby letting me play, say, intellivision in the living room again.
...with X and XMMS and I'm golden. I don't even want the hard drive, I just want to burn bootable CDs/DVDs that I can load with MP3s and play them through the stereo in the living room...
would be *really* nice to have a bootable MAME CD as well.
the "level of public distribution" is the most important part. getting their research published generally means that it can be found in a searchable database, in libraries, etc. -- otherwise there would often be no point in the research.
what they're arguing for as a whole is wider publication precisely for this reason.
actually, several million people have talked about that.
just like the several million people who thought it would boost live performance attendance.
or the several million people who only download mp3s at the office of cds they have at home
or the several million people who said it brings more exposure
or the millions and millions of people who, despite knowing the horse is dead, continue to flog it beyond recognition.
if i ever get 3 wishes, one of them will be the ability to get into all of the news editors' brains around the globe and erase the part that says NAPSTER = NEWS. thank you,/., for keeping the flame burning just one more day.
I'm currently building a home, and I'm having an ethernet jack installed in every room but the bathrooms....
Wiring isn't the issue for me, or for most people -- the issue is, what do you hook up to all of those jacks? What kind of thin clients can you have around the house for a relatively cheap price?
from a link on the homepage saying "Latest version of Linux is released":
Linux 7.1 ready to roll: Red Hat Linux 7.1, the latest version of the company's popular open source server operating environment, is on the market, Red Hat said Monday.
Red Hat Linux 7.1 includes a new 2.4 kernel with improved SMP support said to enhance performance on Intel multi-processor platforms. Red Hat Linux 7.1 also delivers new configuration tools designed to help users set up and administer DNS, Web and print servers.
This release features Red Hat Network connectivity, including software manager.
oh my GOD have you ever tried to kill off the application you're currently running on WinCE? It's at least 5 clicks if not more. At some point, the ability to close an application with the little X button was removed from thePocketPC platform.
My boss bought me a Jornada 548. I used it for a week before I sent it back, even though I'd gotten it for free. I'm back to my Vx, and even without the color screen, it's still a FAR superior handheld.
It's ironic, because when I would reach for the cradle I would see the Jornada in place of the Palm -- and I would actually wince.
Red Carpet seemed like a very cool thing at first, but I've gotten a couple of security updates from mailing lists that haven't shown up on there, and now Gnome 1.4 has been released, and it isn't available either...
It's like they got everything updated and ready for the launch, and then let it go...
After using first a Palm III and then a Vx for a couple of years now, I came in last week to find a new Jornada on my desk. I was instantly excited and went to work setting it up....
What a horribly mangled interface. There's no easy way to switch between applications without quitting back to the main menu and getting a list of all the applications. There's no way to just close the app you're working with, you again have to go out to the main menu and pull up a list of running programs.
Many of the applications written for the "Pocket PC" or WinCE platforms don't deal well with the screen shape and dimensions.... sometimes you're running an app, but you can't pull up the keyboard, and since there's no area set aside for the "scribbling," you're screwed unless you can access the menu to pull it up.
Basically, the PocketPC isn't 1/100th as elegant as the Palm, and I'm completely frustrated every time I pick the thing up. They're basically trying to cram the Windows95 interface into a 2"x3" screen, and it's just not possible, or even worthwhile to try.
Yes, I realize that they're talking about using XP on these tablets, but if they can't get WinCE right in 6 years, my hopes aren't very high.
Obviously, TV is all about advertising, and not all advertisers are targeting the lowest common denominator. Often these days you can tell what kind of show, or even exactly which show, will be coming on after the commercials judging by the commercials themselves.
Luxury car companies aren't after the lowest common denominator. Software companies aren't after the LCD either. If certain shows can give better information about their viewing audience, then they'll have a better chance of survival.
Look at Seinfeld -- the first couple of seasons noone watched, and it would have been cancelled except for one reason -- its target market was *exactly* what the advertisers in that timeslot were after.
Of course, I don't fully understand why any of this info is really relevant when it comes to Tivo... Basically, if you've got Tivo, why would you watch the ads?
True, and I'm not saying that this wasn't the best way to turn a disadvantage into an advantage... I'm not ridiculing/. or saying they're wussing out....
But the poster has a point. Would the pre-Andover/. have stood up and left the post? It's just something that would be interesting, albeit impossible now, to know.
They could just as well have posted this story and all of the links under the heading "The Co$ Is Trying to Censor Us" and left the comment....
This action could have resulted in them getting sued to death, or it could have stood up, or it could have gone unnoticed... Who knows?
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The analogy doesn't fit. It's being debated left and right here, but it doesn't fit at all.
It is ok to use http over tcp-ip to hit the machine, noone has a problem with that... But suddenly it isn't ok to use sql over tcp to hit that same machine?
As much as I hate the "breaking and entering" analogy (if the digital age has brought us anything, it's the persistent and accepted use of HORRIBLE analogies), this would be like saying that it's ok to take your friend's milk out of the fridge, but *don't* touch the fruit.
It's a fuzzy line. It's undefined.
If I fire up an MSSQL client and connect to someone's database which is sitting wide open on the internet, how am I breaking the law?
I'm using a client to access information which is publically available on the internet. How is it any different to use a DB client instead of an HTTP client?
we listen to a looping mp3 of waves crashing on the beach or a river flowing over rocks while we sleep every night.
the waves are really the best thing, since research has shown that it sounds much like everything sounded when we were inside the womb....
the river sounds have a similar effect, and are a nice change after listening to the waves for a couple of months.
when we lived in oregon for a year, we actually had a tin roof, and of course it rained all the time, so we didn't need the extra sounds.... but now, we're back to the mp3s again.
we have an x10 remotemouse that we use to launch the thing, so that when we are laying in bed watching TV and decide it's time to drift off, we can just hit a button on the remote and it launches the playlist.
I would consider it to be "doomed" -- you couldn't pay me enough to be a "chief" anything.
You're basically the fall guy. You're expected to be available to all of your employees 24/7 in my experience, and if there are weak links anywhere in your chain, well, it's your responsibility.
Yay, so you make a lot of money, you run up a lot of debts, you get some ludicrous credit and generally screw yourself with it. Again, this has just been what I've seen in my personal experience.
And then, no matter how well you've done, the board can and will just decide to send you packing on a whim. You're the most visible target when they come looking for heads to roll.
I will give you my firstborn male for those northern exposure episodes....
So if you can't make money on Linux, and support is a shaky business, can someone tell us why, in a capitalistic society, any business would pin their hopes on Linux?
The time for "because it's sexy" is well-past now, thank God.
offtopic? what? not that I care, because karma isn't going to buy me food, and I'm at the cap anyway, but....
playstation. living room. boots linux. can be used as an mp3 player, or to run mame, or any other of a million emulators, thereby letting me play, say, intellivision in the living room again.
...with X and XMMS and I'm golden. I don't even want the hard drive, I just want to burn bootable CDs/DVDs that I can load with MP3s and play them through the stereo in the living room...
would be *really* nice to have a bootable MAME CD as well.
you're also missing a key point:
the "level of public distribution" is the most important part. getting their research published generally means that it can be found in a searchable database, in libraries, etc. -- otherwise there would often be no point in the research.
what they're arguing for as a whole is wider publication precisely for this reason.
actually, several million people have talked about that.
/., for keeping the flame burning just one more day.
just like the several million people who thought it would boost live performance attendance.
or the several million people who only download mp3s at the office of cds they have at home
or the several million people who said it brings more exposure
or the millions and millions of people who, despite knowing the horse is dead, continue to flog it beyond recognition.
if i ever get 3 wishes, one of them will be the ability to get into all of the news editors' brains around the globe and erase the part that says NAPSTER = NEWS. thank you,
and just pay them per line of code
this has actually been done. frightening, really.
i love how often there are stories posted that assume that everyone on the planet has a computer and net access....
this time, there's an assumption that everyone has a cell phone.... just ludicrous.
what a sheltered world.
Exposure doesn't buy food. It doesn't pay rent.
I'm currently building a home, and I'm having an ethernet jack installed in every room but the bathrooms....
Wiring isn't the issue for me, or for most people -- the issue is, what do you hook up to all of those jacks? What kind of thin clients can you have around the house for a relatively cheap price?
It's not my page, I just find different links on occasion.
from a link on the homepage saying "Latest version of Linux is released":
/.-ers think you're SO smart.
Linux 7.1 ready to roll: Red Hat Linux 7.1, the latest version of the company's popular open source server operating environment, is on the market, Red Hat said Monday.
Red Hat Linux 7.1 includes a new 2.4 kernel with improved SMP support said to enhance performance on Intel multi-processor platforms. Red Hat Linux 7.1 also delivers new configuration tools designed to help users set up and administer DNS, Web and print servers.
This release features Red Hat Network connectivity, including software manager.
See? Red Hat == Linux.
You
Well, I have had a Palm (first a III, then a Vx) for a little over two years now, and I use it mainly for playing backgammon while I'm on the can.
In other words, I think you're taking this a little too seriously.
heheheheh..... that's exactly what I have running in my rack @ home. interesting.
oh my GOD have you ever tried to kill off the application you're currently running on WinCE? It's at least 5 clicks if not more. At some point, the ability to close an application with the little X button was removed from thePocketPC platform.
My boss bought me a Jornada 548. I used it for a week before I sent it back, even though I'd gotten it for free. I'm back to my Vx, and even without the color screen, it's still a FAR superior handheld.
It's ironic, because when I would reach for the cradle I would see the Jornada in place of the Palm -- and I would actually wince.
Red Carpet seemed like a very cool thing at first, but I've gotten a couple of security updates from mailing lists that haven't shown up on there, and now Gnome 1.4 has been released, and it isn't available either...
It's like they got everything updated and ready for the launch, and then let it go...
Ironic, isn't it? Gassee will lose out on his dreams of a good GUI on a BSD variant because Steve Jobs pulled it off with Apple's support.
I've liked the be demos, and I'm sad to see it happen. it's just an interesting way to look at it.
....which would make them phreaks, no?
After using first a Palm III and then a Vx for a couple of years now, I came in last week to find a new Jornada on my desk. I was instantly excited and went to work setting it up....
What a horribly mangled interface. There's no easy way to switch between applications without quitting back to the main menu and getting a list of all the applications. There's no way to just close the app you're working with, you again have to go out to the main menu and pull up a list of running programs.
Many of the applications written for the "Pocket PC" or WinCE platforms don't deal well with the screen shape and dimensions.... sometimes you're running an app, but you can't pull up the keyboard, and since there's no area set aside for the "scribbling," you're screwed unless you can access the menu to pull it up.
Basically, the PocketPC isn't 1/100th as elegant as the Palm, and I'm completely frustrated every time I pick the thing up. They're basically trying to cram the Windows95 interface into a 2"x3" screen, and it's just not possible, or even worthwhile to try.
Yes, I realize that they're talking about using XP on these tablets, but if they can't get WinCE right in 6 years, my hopes aren't very high.
Obviously, TV is all about advertising, and not all advertisers are targeting the lowest common denominator. Often these days you can tell what kind of show, or even exactly which show, will be coming on after the commercials judging by the commercials themselves.
Luxury car companies aren't after the lowest common denominator. Software companies aren't after the LCD either. If certain shows can give better information about their viewing audience, then they'll have a better chance of survival.
Look at Seinfeld -- the first couple of seasons noone watched, and it would have been cancelled except for one reason -- its target market was *exactly* what the advertisers in that timeslot were after.
Of course, I don't fully understand why any of this info is really relevant when it comes to Tivo... Basically, if you've got Tivo, why would you watch the ads?
True, and I'm not saying that this wasn't the best way to turn a disadvantage into an advantage... I'm not ridiculing /. or saying they're wussing out....
/. have stood up and left the post? It's just something that would be interesting, albeit impossible now, to know.
But the poster has a point. Would the pre-Andover
They could just as well have posted this story and all of the links under the heading "The Co$ Is Trying to Censor Us" and left the comment....
This action could have resulted in them getting sued to death, or it could have stood up, or it could have gone unnoticed... Who knows?