I stick to my point of inherent redundancy in your question, but I do see what you are saying about companies jibing for a defacto standard that can garner them insutrial support.
Microsoft do this with thier monolithic and closed standards, but the world is changing.
I say that standards change, use them as tools, they are there to help. Don't make a career out of learning a standard that may become deprecated.
SVG is a good standard, with growing device and application support, and of course, not much interest to a network programmer.
Choose you area, and it comes equpit with its own set of standards, defacto and defunct:-)
rfc0001, called 1ml, which describes a standard way of doing everything possible, impossible, plausible or zany.
There are only as many [de-facto] standards as there are things that may require standardisation.
Your question is like asking:
"Hello fellow slashdotters, what a lovely day, I am here in my garden, and ooooh I am overwhelmed I saw, by all the lovely types of flowers. I think there are too many though, so should I try and plant all flowers, or flowers that grow well in this region, or flowers that are useful, or just flowers I am interested in? Oh my Carrot cake!"
Of course, this isn't entirely true, and baking carrot cakes does not fathom into it.
A standard called stmp isn't likely to garner much support for ftp type applications.
Of course, scp and other file transfer apps are related, but different.
Now, XML standards, don't call them standards, call them document types. You cut back on the number. [anything can be standard, you can say chairs are standard in an office, but that shouldn't worry you] Perhaps there are too many file format standards?
I think BMP, jpeg, jpeg 2000, gif, png, mng and tiff, iff and other formats all have thier own uses.
Apply this logic to your hetrogenous set of standards, and apply the following filter:
Am I interested in this standard, or is it useful for me? Yes / No
I think Microsoft still want to keep people on IE, but they are unable to concentrate thier efforts, and with the hullabaloo they are working behind the scenes to 'extract' the browser.
IE has kinda been tapered into a usable yet dangerous browser - firefox is fairly good (I have a wish list and potential bug list too long for me to sift through bugzilla reports)
Opera is good, does its job.
What is next for the humble browser? Integration? Better / faster rendering? I think not.
Perhaps being able to do a simple task better.
I personally would preffer my email and web in one box, so thunderbird developers write a neat plugin for firefox that combines them quickly and seamlessly.
And the sunbird calendar is good. Again, I want them in one side bar, F7 for mail and F8 for calendar, Fsomethingelse bookmarks, Fagain for RSS links.
And remove the download window:-/ unless it gets as good as a real d/l manager, it is more of a hassle!
I like the autodownload features, I can rip down pdf files from a list without fsssskking Adowbee Acrowbaht Readuh trying to happily rape my ram.
I agree with your view in general, about the free market, but your last statement is at least positive that you picked up on the main point of my argument:
It is not that non-smokers are weak - but the prevailing social acceptance of smoking (which has been waneing and almost diminished in some countries) was a road block to people being able to voice thier views.
With something only 'midly' irritating, such as passive smoking (as it is to some people) they never reached a level where they felt they had a right to at least feel opposed to it.
It is like opposing people with beards! (as the advert goes)
Not that I want to push my humble views on other non-smokers, just make it socially acceptable to stand out against smoking [and enforce a precedent where people do not smoke in grey areas (sitting on a park bench, when non-smoker was there first)]
Again, it is all just to be civil:-]
I can imagine as a smoker yourself you are worried about people like me [or as you imagine me!] might want to take away your rights! not true! just where two peoples rights conflict, drawa up agreeable plans, not just let one side suffer silently under social pressure or apathy:-]
Bush: "oh lookout, North Korea!" Voters: "Where?" Bush: "Over there!! And they are holding a cute puppy, with a nuke strapped to it!" Voters: "Run for your lives! And vote for Bush!"
The closer the quarks are, the more free they reign.
The farther apart the more force is exerted on them.
They describe it as an elastic band. It sound more like the 'proximity' provides some kind of countering effect, which is removed when they drift apart, or indeed, merely they reach the boundary of thier movement (this is me know knows nothing about all this stuff)
But it does say that we know nothing about gravity, where it comes form, what its favourite colour is, or, perhaps topically, who it will vote for.
It says something about humanity, they don't see something until it falls on thier head (literally).
I used to think that gravity shouldn't be explained, but bouyancy. If you know why things float, you know why things fall.
c'mon I was like 4 years old. The only rubber sheet I had heard of was my matress. Yes, I wet the bed. *hands head in shame*
Sport? So buck passers are Australian now are they? Streth shiela, didja here that? grab skippy and flipper, I am off croc hunting for the savo, they got me riled up, pass me a tinny, and put some prawns on the barbie.
MSNBC report that is isn't the softwares fault, but the person who wrote the software... erm... so this is Microsoft trying to make the masses docile again.
It isn't windows fault that it crashes, but erm, our, because, erm, we have poor planning, poor execution and poor leadership. But our code is top notch! not a security flaw any... where....
the result is 1111x better
The latest OSTG figure is 1111.9x better [sorry gotta be bleeding edge on stats]
My guess is Bush will hijack north korea as a means to wni the next round. He will place lots of fear inducing news out (you won't know it is from him)
The level of anxiety will increase, people will vote Bush.
It seems from the link a fellow posted, N Korea seems to be solely focussed on retaliating to a preemptive tsrike from the US.
If the US could back down, and realise that North Korea is better handled politically, then things would improve.
What I cannot find, is anything about N Korea except for thier desire to stop a preemptive US strike.
Why would they attack S Korea? Are they planning to take it over?
I think the idea that N Korea would just 'push a button' at any time without provocation, is a success of the Bush propoganda engine.
There needs to be action, and not lead by the US to diffuse fears. Sending international groups of mediators on a peace visit might help.
they would feel less vunerable with foreign interests in thier country... it takes the pressure of the nuke trigger.
until all hell broke loose, then I hit alt-ctrl-~, did a ps -aux and hit kill -9 on everything I could find.
I think I must have been out of ammo or something, because it kept giving me stick about command not find.
I tried apt-get and still nothing.
No seriously, everything works fine, except all the PDAs on the base don't work right, because I guess linux on the PDA is a bit immature for the martian market:-)
I think you will find that grandparent post uses a more adaptive algorithm *pushes glasses up nose* and can lookup word aliases and also provide character reordering and event prediction (locked caps).
Whilst parent post is a mere random 1:1 letter symbol lookup that uses a bollean flag to determine how large the lookup data is.
*silence* oh I see you were joking... I have gone and published this in the ACM website too... feel so silly...
to make up for it, I wrote a perl script that uses SOAP to connect to google and groups.google and does realtime lookups on current jibe talk or selected dialects and does a quantization approach and entropy coding to provide accurate and hilarious results.
Thank you for such a greast write up - it puts it into perspective. It is obvious what caused the political emnity between N&S, and following this, the populace see the N/S divide continuously.
This still doesn't say what the North wants...
To rule the south? to stop people looking at it like it is a crazy homicidal country?
They are fearful (my $20 says rightfully so) that world politics is scheming to take it down. This breeds more fear and war rhetoric, which breeds more scheming.
I think the North and South need to become one. How to happen?
First, if you tell the north this, they will let off all thier nukes thinking you are poised to crush them all out of history.
They are cornered really.
We need, as a global community, to voice support for north korea in all actions that are peace related.
Then we can remove barriers.
Political... we need to get thier political government to realise that they cannot be at war, but to give them a 4 year governance of the north 'district' or new korea.
When they realise this position removes all need for them to worry about food, education and jobs in north korea, and they get a nice car and house, they will comply.
Then they get phased out by elected officials - politics can do in 10 minutes what it would take 6 months of bloody combat to do.
or undo.
Now, I'd say not let America take the forfront in this, send in euro-china groups of people who negotiate, rejoin korea, and get america the heck out of s.korea.
Think about it.
Imagine someone is mad at something being there, if you distract them enough to remove it, when they look back, they loose all motivation to be mad anymore...
OK, this again is probbaly oversimplifying it - but N and S korea must be rejoined in a peaceful manner, the US troops must leave, and north korea must be given worldwide aid, and not fund more western companies (arms companies, security companies, building companies)
At the same time, build a positive spin in S Korea, who probably see N Korea as a big pain in the ass now after al these years and do not want them back, explain that they are the same country, also, more importantly, show that US and Russia will fund the operation, because thier puppet war started it.
(sorry crude and simple)
As peqace plans go, I think it is the only option. If N Korea doesnt exist, the problem is gone. Korea can slowly repair its damage./. explanation
If you have a -2 Troll country with WMD - it stands to loose nothing if it fires them in a pre-emptive strike against aggressors who are worried about such an preemptive strike, but whose very worrying, causes it to be more likely.
If you have a +2 insightful country who takes on a -2 Troll country and merges, and becomes a 0 moderated country (or +1 funny for sakes of statistics) then they have something to build on.
Thanks to HeghmoH for tolerating my quite ignorant views of Korea, and providing such insightful debate!
I don't claim what I have written is write or attainable, only what I think is quite a good diea at the time.
Slashdot Mirror
Data remains.
:-)
I stick to my point of inherent redundancy in your question, but I do see what you are saying about companies jibing for a defacto standard that can garner them insutrial support.
Microsoft do this with thier monolithic and closed standards, but the world is changing.
I say that standards change, use them as tools, they are there to help. Don't make a career out of learning a standard that may become deprecated.
SVG is a good standard, with growing device and application support, and of course, not much interest to a network programmer.
Choose you area, and it comes equpit with its own set of standards, defacto and defunct
rfc0001, called 1ml, which describes a standard way of doing everything possible, impossible, plausible or zany.
There are only as many [de-facto] standards as there are things that may require standardisation.
Your question is like asking:
"Hello fellow slashdotters, what a lovely day, I am here in my garden, and ooooh I am overwhelmed I saw, by all the lovely types of flowers. I think there are too many though, so should I try and plant all flowers, or flowers that grow well in this region, or flowers that are useful, or just flowers I am interested in? Oh my Carrot cake!"
Of course, this isn't entirely true, and baking carrot cakes does not fathom into it.
A standard called stmp isn't likely to garner much support for ftp type applications.
Of course, scp and other file transfer apps are related, but different.
Now, XML standards, don't call them standards, call them document types. You cut back on the number. [anything can be standard, you can say chairs are standard in an office, but that shouldn't worry you] Perhaps there are too many file format standards?
I think BMP, jpeg, jpeg 2000, gif, png, mng and tiff, iff and other formats all have thier own uses.
Apply this logic to your hetrogenous set of standards, and apply the following filter:
Am I interested in this standard, or is it useful for me? Yes / No
Have a good day.
news.com.com.com.com.com
:-/ unless it gets as good as a real d/l manager, it is more of a hassle!
I think Microsoft still want to keep people on IE, but they are unable to concentrate thier efforts, and with the hullabaloo they are working behind the scenes to 'extract' the browser.
IE has kinda been tapered into a usable yet dangerous browser - firefox is fairly good (I have a wish list and potential bug list too long for me to sift through bugzilla reports)
Opera is good, does its job.
What is next for the humble browser? Integration? Better / faster rendering? I think not.
Perhaps being able to do a simple task better.
I personally would preffer my email and web in one box, so thunderbird developers write a neat plugin for firefox that combines them quickly and seamlessly.
And the sunbird calendar is good. Again, I want them in one side bar, F7 for mail and F8 for calendar, Fsomethingelse bookmarks, Fagain for RSS links.
And remove the download window
I like the autodownload features, I can rip down pdf files from a list without fsssskking Adowbee Acrowbaht Readuh trying to happily rape my ram.
The British Pornographic Institute has warned that it is about to engage in a round of legal action against file-sharing users
Close call! We can all rest easily now...
I agree with your view in general, about the free market, but your last statement is at least positive that you picked up on the main point of my argument:
:-]
:-]
:-)
It is not that non-smokers are weak - but the prevailing social acceptance of smoking (which has been waneing and almost diminished in some countries) was a road block to people being able to voice thier views.
With something only 'midly' irritating, such as passive smoking (as it is to some people) they never reached a level where they felt they had a right to at least feel opposed to it.
It is like opposing people with beards! (as the advert goes)
Not that I want to push my humble views on other non-smokers, just make it socially acceptable to stand out against smoking [and enforce a precedent where people do not smoke in grey areas (sitting on a park bench, when non-smoker was there first)]
Again, it is all just to be civil
I can imagine as a smoker yourself you are worried about people like me [or as you imagine me!] might want to take away your rights! not true! just where two peoples rights conflict, drawa up agreeable plans, not just let one side suffer silently under social pressure or apathy
Thanks for the debate
Not a conspiracy, I hope your IQ can fathom that.
Vote swinging -
Bush: "oh lookout, North Korea!"
Voters: "Where?"
Bush: "Over there!! And they are holding a cute puppy, with a nuke strapped to it!"
Voters: "Run for your lives! And vote for Bush!"
You see - a highly plausible chain of events.
no you are right, you were just troll pandering, I have a reflex that types anti-microsoft stuff at lightening speed.
Seems silly really.
When I laughed at Baulders Gate, oh how I laughed. 7 CD's? or one DeeFeeDee (whatever that was)
Now dual/triple DVD games mags are all the rage.
I have to lie down.
The closer the quarks are, the more free they reign.
:-)
The farther apart the more force is exerted on them.
They describe it as an elastic band. It sound more like the 'proximity' provides some kind of countering effect, which is removed when they drift apart, or indeed, merely they reach the boundary of thier movement (this is me know knows nothing about all this stuff)
But it does say that we know nothing about gravity, where it comes form, what its favourite colour is, or, perhaps topically, who it will vote for.
It says something about humanity, they don't see something until it falls on thier head (literally).
I used to think that gravity shouldn't be explained, but bouyancy. If you know why things float, you know why things fall.
c'mon I was like 4 years old. The only rubber sheet I had heard of was my matress. Yes, I wet the bed. *hands head in shame*
I stopped well before my 22nd birthday though
If it had a transparent lid and a set of craps dice that float 8-ball like every time you take a swig, you could gamble with it too!
Or special editions with mini roulette wheels... ok, no bad idea.
zwei halbe heffewiezen bitte.
read Carmacks old .plan files and he slates DX in favour of OGL.
M$ own like 99.9999999999999999999999% of OGL now anyway, so they don't really care.
for pandering to Microsofts whim and supporting thier projects, despite all the shiznit they stuff in your face over the years.
/. buys it, I shall, I shall... write something like this in the future.
Xbox 2 - if one
s t r e w t h.
Strweth and hear.
why do I bother?
Sport? So buck passers are Australian now are they? Streth shiela, didja here that? grab skippy and flipper, I am off croc hunting for the savo, they got me riled up, pass me a tinny, and put some prawns on the barbie.
MSNBC report that is isn't the softwares fault, but the person who wrote the software... erm... so this is Microsoft trying to make the masses docile again.
It isn't windows fault that it crashes, but erm, our, because, erm, we have poor planning, poor execution and poor leadership. But our code is top notch! not a security flaw any... where....
the result is 1111x better
The latest OSTG figure is 1111.9x better [sorry gotta be bleeding edge on stats]
My guess is Bush will hijack north korea as a means to wni the next round. He will place lots of fear inducing news out (you won't know it is from him)
The level of anxiety will increase, people will vote Bush.
It seems from the link a fellow posted, N Korea seems to be solely focussed on retaliating to a preemptive tsrike from the US.
If the US could back down, and realise that North Korea is better handled politically, then things would improve.
What I cannot find, is anything about N Korea except for thier desire to stop a preemptive US strike.
Why would they attack S Korea? Are they planning to take it over?
I think the idea that N Korea would just 'push a button' at any time without provocation, is a success of the Bush propoganda engine.
There needs to be action, and not lead by the US to diffuse fears. Sending international groups of mediators on a peace visit might help.
they would feel less vunerable with foreign interests in thier country... it takes the pressure of the nuke trigger.
it opens up talks!
until all hell broke loose, then I hit alt-ctrl-~, did a ps -aux and hit kill -9 on everything I could find.
:-)
I think I must have been out of ammo or something, because it kept giving me stick about command not find.
I tried apt-get and still nothing.
No seriously, everything works fine, except all the PDAs on the base don't work right, because I guess linux on the PDA is a bit immature for the martian market
I think you will find that grandparent post uses a more adaptive algorithm *pushes glasses up nose* and can lookup word aliases and also provide character reordering and event prediction (locked caps).
Whilst parent post is a mere random 1:1 letter symbol lookup that uses a bollean flag to determine how large the lookup data is.
*silence* oh I see you were joking... I have gone and published this in the ACM website too... feel so silly...
to make up for it, I wrote a perl script that uses SOAP to connect to google and groups.google and does realtime lookups on current jibe talk or selected dialects and does a quantization approach and entropy coding to provide accurate and hilarious results.
Sourceforge project
I also wrote an AI interface which makes its own blog, twice daily:
here
j00 \33t h4x0r j00!!!,, t33ch m333 h0\/\/ | can b3 s0 l33t!11
I f33l 20 Pn37 right now!111111
ZOMG!!
@Ll y0Ur 84SE 4re 83L0nG T0 u5.
Thank you for such a greast write up - it puts it into perspective. It is obvious what caused the political emnity between N&S, and following this, the populace see the N/S divide continuously.
/. explanation
This still doesn't say what the North wants...
To rule the south? to stop people looking at it like it is a crazy homicidal country?
They are fearful (my $20 says rightfully so) that world politics is scheming to take it down. This breeds more fear and war rhetoric, which breeds more scheming.
I think the North and South need to become one. How to happen?
First, if you tell the north this, they will let off all thier nukes thinking you are poised to crush them all out of history.
They are cornered really.
We need, as a global community, to voice support for north korea in all actions that are peace related.
Then we can remove barriers.
Political... we need to get thier political government to realise that they cannot be at war, but to give them a 4 year governance of the north 'district' or new korea.
When they realise this position removes all need for them to worry about food, education and jobs in north korea, and they get a nice car and house, they will comply.
Then they get phased out by elected officials - politics can do in 10 minutes what it would take 6 months of bloody combat to do.
or undo.
Now, I'd say not let America take the forfront in this, send in euro-china groups of people who negotiate, rejoin korea, and get america the heck out of s.korea.
Think about it.
Imagine someone is mad at something being there, if you distract them enough to remove it, when they look back, they loose all motivation to be mad anymore...
OK, this again is probbaly oversimplifying it - but N and S korea must be rejoined in a peaceful manner, the US troops must leave, and north korea must be given worldwide aid, and not fund more western companies (arms companies, security companies, building companies)
At the same time, build a positive spin in S Korea, who probably see N Korea as a big pain in the ass now after al these years and do not want them back, explain that they are the same country, also, more importantly, show that US and Russia will fund the operation, because thier puppet war started it.
(sorry crude and simple)
As peqace plans go, I think it is the only option. If N Korea doesnt exist, the problem is gone. Korea can slowly repair its damage.
If you have a -2 Troll country with WMD - it stands to loose nothing if it fires them in a pre-emptive strike against aggressors who are worried about such an preemptive strike, but whose very worrying, causes it to be more likely.
If you have a +2 insightful country who takes on a -2 Troll country and merges, and becomes a 0 moderated country (or +1 funny for sakes of statistics) then they have something to build on.
Thanks to HeghmoH for tolerating my quite ignorant views of Korea, and providing such insightful debate!
I don't claim what I have written is write or attainable, only what I think is quite a good diea at the time.
I already expained :-)
16MB transatlantic is impressive - but they don't way if they used the normal FO feeds, or sat. which is still Xlantic.
If my prev explanation confounded you...
ph don't talk to me about mebibits, and kebifloops, and foobooblarfunkles. 1+1=10;
Just to let you know that is megabits/second
about 16 Mb a second....
I get about 80Kbyte a second....
Not too shabby!
9TB = 9895604649984 bytes
20 hours = 72000 seconds
=
137438953.472 bytes/second
=
134217.728 Kb / Sec
=
~ 131mb / sec
=
0wned!
imagine a beowulf cluster of these!
We could watch cute alien chicks on thier home planets!
9TB of data - the actual dishes only needed 30GB, but since they had the line, they raped thier fav. P2P networks for pr0n, w4rez and mp3z.