Did it cause you a significant amount of hardship, comparable to what the average person would have if their computer were disabled for a few days or their car was vandalized? Did you have to hire someone to fix something that no longer worked, or take an hour to do it youself?
Try reading the post again, without skipping words, because you aren't arguing against something that I said.
Thus illustrating the old saying "for every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." When it becomes OK to kill anyone that does something you don't like, it also becomes equally possible that others will kill you when you do something they don't care for. But of course you're a good enough troll to know that already.
And for every truth, there's a way to simplify it to the point of idiocy. When someone's doing something that causes you a significant amount of hardship and is making money doing it, they aren't just "doing something you don't like".
That said, I think killing them would be a bit harsh (unless the spyware managed to lock up a computer doing something truly important, but taking a two-by-four to some non-vital parts of their body would be appropriate. That's about what most people would do to an adult they caught vandalizing their car.
"and even mentions Direct Revenue's anti-spyware achievements (the company's installer blasted away competing spyware apps, so that the user's computer wouldn't be overwhelmed with redundant pop-ups)."
The crack dealer on one side of the street achieved a victory against crime today when he killed the competing dealer on the other side.
I very much doubt that their reasons for blasting away competing apps were for the benefit of the user. Most likely, they don't want the user's computer to slow down enough for them to notice and do a spyware sweep.
You're stabbing a strawman. The Grandparent Post didn't say anything about fear of punishment or hope for reward.
For me as well, the belief that other people are eternal (and that I am too) is the only thing that gives them (and myself) any value. Atoms that just happen to be acting in a certain way are worthless.
The whole point is that one, by definition, cannot be held liable for crimes abroad if he/she was not physically there while commiting them.
So if I push this big red button, and it launches a missile across the border...
...Then your home country will prosecute you, or risk retaliation from the other country.
Indeed...I actually enjoyed several on this list. Tactics Ogre beats Final Fantasy Tactics hands down. Beyond the Beyond was a fine RPG, at least as far as I played (I had to return it, and then the Blockbuster closed down). Awesome Possum was at least amusing, if nothing ground-breaking.
Awesome Possum was pretty cool. I remember playing it when I was six or seven...and annoying the hell out of whomever was in the room with me by turning "motor mouth" on.
"You have to remember that they are hiring women-only because everyone else is male. If there were 180 (or however many) women here and they tried to bring in some men, I think almost everyone would find it acceptable."
Well, for one, I wouldn't. Offering one sex, ethnic, or religious group special treatment just because most of your project/business/whatever is mostly made up of another is ridiculous and senseless.
Your second paragraph doesn't even make sense in this context. This isn't a noble-vs-serf class struggle where one group is being kept down. Open Source, Free Software, and the Summer of Code have always been open to anyone.
You'll want to do both of the things the PP mentions, but for goodness' sake, don't do it in that order.
I'd recommend getting a shell account (there are still places that give them away) and using it alongside an online guide to learn the basic shell commands. If you want to take the plunge, get a copy of the documentation of your distro of choice (in print, preferably), download and burn the install CD/CDs/DVD, find a second hard drive (or second computer), and perform the installation with the documentation next to you. The only huge mistake you can make here is during the partitioning; if you're dual-booting, make sure you don't overwrite your original partition.
Then, start exploring your new system. The manpages, the Internet, your distro's community, and tech books will usually be a good source of knowledge. To this day, I use them all (though the last one not as often). Before you try to do something in Windows, spend a bit of time trying to do it in *nix. This will help you learn the tools that you'll be the most.
Seriously. 15,000 songs in midi format, 15,000 50x50 photos, 50 hours of low-bitrate video, and 50 text adventures don't take up much space at all.
I always wonder how they're counting the "DVD movies"...Raw and untranscoded? Transcoded to a 700MB avi? A direct copy of the DVD to your hard drive?
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Defamation is spreading falsehoods to harm another person's reputation. "Libel" is the term used when the defamation takes the form of print; "slander" is the term used when the defamation is oral.
Assuming the story is true, this is the best way in the world to handle scammers. Expose them in a way that'll attract many people so that they won't, and likely can't, screw over anyone else. The guy was screwing strangers and picked the wrong one. I have no sympathy for him.
If the story isn't true, the buyer will probably be hit with libel, and (I'd say) deserves worse for destroying an innocent man's life.
I don't think it falls under libel, even by the British definition, if it's true. Of course, it (and just about anything) might be considered "Anti-Social Behavior".
I don't see why it would be difficult to have multiple versions of the site, one of which could be a text browser-friendly one (didn't there used to be a twin page like that?). While I don't know too many people that regularly use links/elinks/lynx (my wife does occasionally to look up recipes on the kitchen terminal), plenty of people use web-enabled cell phones. I've checked out Slashdot a couple of times on mine, despite it being a bit painful.
I agree...Those things were great for back-ups, especially when you didn't have a CD RW drive. I've heard a lot of stories about them dying, but both of mine still worked the last time I used them (around 2001-2002).
"For it to be a copywrite violation there has to be non-trivial distribution."
"Trivial" or "Non-trivial" don't even come into play, except when damages are figured, and maybe when the owner decides whether it's worth it to sue. Whether or not the infringer was profiting, and whether he was claiming ownership or merely copying, may affect damages and the sentence as well, but the name of the charge is the same.
"Gandhi said if we followed that rule the whole world would be blind."
If I'm going to get blinded anyway, I'd rather the guy who does it be in the same boat. Otherwise he'll keep tormenting me and I won't be able to do anything. Taking away power from those who misuse it isn't mindless revenge; it's pretty well grounded in logic.
"If you go around publicly saying someone is threatening you then you better have some solid evidence."
That's the case in the UK. I'm pretty sure that, in the US, the person suing has to prove that 1. the claim was false and 2. the claimer knew it was false.
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Did it cause you a significant amount of hardship, comparable to what the average person would have if their computer were disabled for a few days or their car was vandalized? Did you have to hire someone to fix something that no longer worked, or take an hour to do it youself?
Try reading the post again, without skipping words, because you aren't arguing against something that I said.
And for every truth, there's a way to simplify it to the point of idiocy. When someone's doing something that causes you a significant amount of hardship and is making money doing it, they aren't just "doing something you don't like".
That said, I think killing them would be a bit harsh (unless the spyware managed to lock up a computer doing something truly important, but taking a two-by-four to some non-vital parts of their body would be appropriate. That's about what most people would do to an adult they caught vandalizing their car.
"and even mentions Direct Revenue's anti-spyware achievements (the company's installer blasted away competing spyware apps, so that the user's computer wouldn't be overwhelmed with redundant pop-ups)."
The crack dealer on one side of the street achieved a victory against crime today when he killed the competing dealer on the other side.
I very much doubt that their reasons for blasting away competing apps were for the benefit of the user. Most likely, they don't want the user's computer to slow down enough for them to notice and do a spyware sweep.
You're stabbing a strawman. The Grandparent Post didn't say anything about fear of punishment or hope for reward.
For me as well, the belief that other people are eternal (and that I am too) is the only thing that gives them (and myself) any value. Atoms that just happen to be acting in a certain way are worthless.
The whole point is that one, by definition, cannot be held liable for crimes abroad if he/she was not physically there while commiting them.
...Then your home country will prosecute you, or risk retaliation from the other country.
So if I push this big red button, and it launches a missile across the border...
Indeed...I actually enjoyed several on this list. Tactics Ogre beats Final Fantasy Tactics hands down. Beyond the Beyond was a fine RPG, at least as far as I played (I had to return it, and then the Blockbuster closed down). Awesome Possum was at least amusing, if nothing ground-breaking.
Awesome Possum was pretty cool. I remember playing it when I was six or seven...and annoying the hell out of whomever was in the room with me by turning "motor mouth" on.
"You have to remember that they are hiring women-only because everyone else is male. If there were 180 (or however many) women here and they tried to bring in some men, I think almost everyone would find it acceptable."
Well, for one, I wouldn't. Offering one sex, ethnic, or religious group special treatment just because most of your project/business/whatever is mostly made up of another is ridiculous and senseless.
Your second paragraph doesn't even make sense in this context. This isn't a noble-vs-serf class struggle where one group is being kept down. Open Source, Free Software, and the Summer of Code have always been open to anyone.
You'll want to do both of the things the PP mentions, but for goodness' sake, don't do it in that order.
I'd recommend getting a shell account (there are still places that give them away) and using it alongside an online guide to learn the basic shell commands. If you want to take the plunge, get a copy of the documentation of your distro of choice (in print, preferably), download and burn the install CD/CDs/DVD, find a second hard drive (or second computer), and perform the installation with the documentation next to you. The only huge mistake you can make here is during the partitioning; if you're dual-booting, make sure you don't overwrite your original partition.
Then, start exploring your new system. The manpages, the Internet, your distro's community, and tech books will usually be a good source of knowledge. To this day, I use them all (though the last one not as often). Before you try to do something in Windows, spend a bit of time trying to do it in *nix. This will help you learn the tools that you'll be the most.
Well, it can, but I sure hope that's not what they're planning.
That's 31.55 percentage points, not 31.55%. Apache has more than twice the marketshare of IIS (100%+ higher) and the summary is mistaken.
This is an incredibly common mistake; I even see it in professional publications.
The last copy of Windows that I owned was "genuine", as well. I still dropped them once they started trying to push DRM and activation on me with XP.
Seriously. 15,000 songs in midi format, 15,000 50x50 photos, 50 hours of low-bitrate video, and 50 text adventures don't take up much space at all.
I always wonder how they're counting the "DVD movies"...Raw and untranscoded? Transcoded to a 700MB avi? A direct copy of the DVD to your hard drive?
Defamation is spreading falsehoods to harm another person's reputation. "Libel" is the term used when the defamation takes the form of print; "slander" is the term used when the defamation is oral.
Assuming the story is true, this is the best way in the world to handle scammers. Expose them in a way that'll attract many people so that they won't, and likely can't, screw over anyone else. The guy was screwing strangers and picked the wrong one. I have no sympathy for him.
If the story isn't true, the buyer will probably be hit with libel, and (I'd say) deserves worse for destroying an innocent man's life.
I don't think it falls under libel, even by the British definition, if it's true. Of course, it (and just about anything) might be considered "Anti-Social Behavior".
I doubt it's about the money. Scamming/cheating/robbing people REALLY pisses them off, even when the amount of goods involved is trivial.
I won't blame anyone for exposing a scumball after the scumball tried to screw him.
And why are the police getting involved, anyway?
"stupid unless you're blind and using a screen reader"
...Or using a PDA or cell phone to browse.
I don't see why it would be difficult to have multiple versions of the site, one of which could be a text browser-friendly one (didn't there used to be a twin page like that?). While I don't know too many people that regularly use links/elinks/lynx (my wife does occasionally to look up recipes on the kitchen terminal), plenty of people use web-enabled cell phones. I've checked out Slashdot a couple of times on mine, despite it being a bit painful.
I agree...Those things were great for back-ups, especially when you didn't have a CD RW drive. I've heard a lot of stories about them dying, but both of mine still worked the last time I used them (around 2001-2002).
No, "someone" doesn't. And generally when "someone" with no claim to a kid decides to start monitoring them, it's called STALKING.
You make one that resembles the name of someone you don't like. That way, you can post false things and screw up their life.
"For it to be a copywrite violation there has to be non-trivial distribution."
"Trivial" or "Non-trivial" don't even come into play, except when damages are figured, and maybe when the owner decides whether it's worth it to sue. Whether or not the infringer was profiting, and whether he was claiming ownership or merely copying, may affect damages and the sentence as well, but the name of the charge is the same.
"Gandhi said if we followed that rule the whole world would be blind."
If I'm going to get blinded anyway, I'd rather the guy who does it be in the same boat. Otherwise he'll keep tormenting me and I won't be able to do anything. Taking away power from those who misuse it isn't mindless revenge; it's pretty well grounded in logic.
"If you go around publicly saying someone is threatening you then you better have some solid evidence."
That's the case in the UK. I'm pretty sure that, in the US, the person suing has to prove that 1. the claim was false and 2. the claimer knew it was false.