... but if security is such a concern of so many code writers in the *nix community, why are some still not taking heed and writing buffer-overflowable code?
I actually have a half skeleton set at home... full skull and vertebrae, half set of all other bones - medical students sell and resell sets such as these for anatomy study, most are sourced from india, one of the few countries that allow the export of human bones
... has been all use of helicopters, submarines and viewing of the Mona Lisa. LF has also made a claim on these stating that the inventor/artist Leonardo Davinci was infringing upon their namesake:)...
... indeed, all helicopter flights are grounded until this has been resolved...
I'm a bigpond cable customer too... and I'm sorry that you have had such a hard lot on cable... not having found the user newsgroups, not having found the IRC servers, not having found whirlpool (wp.bpc-users.org) or the file email service (emailafile.cowsnet.com)... live on cable must be pretty boring and dull for you... just because you don't use the cable intranet doesn't mean that others don't
While this is a great thing... Telstra REFUSES to provide usage reports for more than 2 months past (which is often how long it takes for the bill to be mailed out to you) and even then CHARGE you for the usage report!!!
Further to this in cases where Telstra has been shown to be in the wrong and has overcharged a user, they have in some cases refused point blank to make a refund or withdraw the charge...
per Mb billing is fine... but lets keep it fair!!!
What if the windows boxes were connected to the net through a masquerading firewall? -- would the need to licence be detected by the server or the client... if it were the client then surely an abstract of removal such as a masquerading firewall would prevent this?
this is a truly brilliant innovation... it does open a very interesting line for future operating system/interface development, incorporating the 3D environment with process and file management alike; differing levels of control and access (above and beyond owner, group and all) through alternate tools (or weapons); coordination of system queues in a graphical and prehaps a more conceptual manner -- the possibilities and depth to which this could be taken is extraordinairy. The drawback in this I see being the hardware/processor intensive load which this method of interface may place on a system... but then again, windows can do it:)
----- Original Message ----- From: Les Bell Newsgroups: aus.computers.linux Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:38 AM Subject: Computerworld/Gartner FUD Embarrassment
> I notice that Computerworld Australia is promoting a lead story entitled > > "Gartner slams Linux with hostile review", which starts: > > ------------------------------------------- > > A damning report from Gartner has all but put the kiss of death on > Linux, but devotees of the OS maintain it's a force to be reckoned with. > > "Linux is the 'hype du jour' that is thought by some to have the > potential to upset Microsoft's dominance on the mainstream desktop," the > Gartner Group report says. > > ------------------------------------------- > > However, a little research reveals that the report can be found (the > quote above comes from the foot of the first page)at: > > http://www.gartner.com/webletter/microsoft/article 3/article3.html > http://www.gartner.com/webletter/microsoft/article 5/article5.html > http://www.gartner.com/webletter/microsoft/article 6/article6.html > > and the disclaimers at the foot of the pages clearly state "Microsoft > Web Letter is published by Microsoft." and "Editorial supplied by > Microsoft is independent of GartnerGroup analysis and in no way should > this information be construed as a GartnerGroup endorsement of > Microsoft's products and services." > > In other words, it's written by Microsoft, placed on the Gartner Group > website to *look* like Gartner Group content. Since the Computerworld > article never mentions the disclaimer or the true author, it comes > across looking like an independent company has written an independent > report which is damning of Linux, while in fact, this is not the case. > > Now, many of you reading this work for companies who pay Gartner Group > large chunks of money for their indiustry analyses. You might like to > bring to the attention of your management the fact that Gartner Group is > clearly being paid by Microsoft to publish material which is biased and > represents a conflict of interest. Make no mistake: Gartner Group is > extremely influential, > > In addition, you might like to suggest to the author of the > Computerworld piece, Ellen Creswell, that perhaps she should do her > homework. You can reach her at Ellen_Creswell@idg.com.au. > > Some of you might recognise my name, and will realise why it is > especially sad that I should say: the standard of technical journalism > in Australia today is crap. I am really glad that I am no longer > involved. I would be ashamed, if I published something like this. > > Best, > > --- Les [http://www.lesbell.com.au]
two words to describe their target audience... script kiddies... adolescent males who dont' get out to much, don't fit in with their peers, but want to be 'l33t' after watching 'hackers'
.asp? does it seem ironic that a webpage for a linux distribution that is suppose to be so easy to use is hosted on a windows platform... on telneting to the webserver... Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
Notice how that the sick idiots who are replying to this article with messages such as 'I like 13 year old's too' or 'legalise child pornography' are all posting as anonymous cowards?
For the record my name is Rob Casey - I live in Melbourne, Australia - and I think that those of you who truly believe that Naughton did nothing wrong are yourselves maligned.
creativity is suppose to be something which pushes the realms of currently accepted notions, not rehashs old concepts. This research simply shows that a computer can rehash old concepts within different scenarios, not that it can creatively produce something de novo. further to this comes the idea of appeal - creativity can be appealing or appauling... dependent upon the audience...;)
As the article notes... this serial processing happens faster than the conscious mind can interpret and as such the difference between serial and parallel visual processing causes little difference in perception. It would be very interesting to see the processes involved in translating these serial images to memory and the crossover to parallel neural pathways.
Slashdot Mirror
Just a random thought in passing ...
... but if security is such a concern of so many code writers in the *nix community, why are some still not taking heed and writing buffer-overflowable code?
My $0.02
Rob
I actually have a half skeleton set at home ... full skull and vertebrae, half set of all other bones - medical students sell and resell sets such as these for anatomy study, most are sourced from india, one of the few countries that allow the export of human bones
four words ... planet of the apes ...
'get your damn paws off me you stinking apes'
I swear this has to beat even Jon Katz' articles (and the response to them) in terms of humour value ;)
... has been all use of helicopters, submarines and viewing of the Mona Lisa. LF has also made a claim on these stating that the inventor/artist Leonardo Davinci was infringing upon their namesake :) ...
...
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... indeed, all helicopter flights are grounded until this has been resolved
this *HAS* to be fake, wake up
I'm a bigpond cable customer too ... and I'm sorry that you have had such a hard lot on cable ... not having found the user newsgroups, not having found the IRC servers, not having found whirlpool (wp.bpc-users.org) or the file email service (emailafile.cowsnet.com) ... live on cable must be pretty boring and dull for you ... just because you don't use the cable intranet doesn't mean that others don't
While this is a great thing ... Telstra REFUSES to provide usage reports for more than 2 months past (which is often how long it takes for the bill to be mailed out to you) and even then CHARGE you for the usage report!!!
...
... but lets keep it fair!!!
Further to this in cases where Telstra has been shown to be in the wrong and has overcharged a user, they have in some cases refused point blank to make a refund or withdraw the charge
per Mb billing is fine
More information available from ;
http://wp.bpc-users.orgl
http://24.192.20.40/survey.htm
http://bpa.boxen.dhs.org/
http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?id=632
http://www.it.fai rfax.com.au/breaking/19991201/A10364-1999Dec1.htm
http://www.newswire.com.au/9912/bighike.h tm
http://www.smh.com.au/news/991 2/02/bizcom/bizcom2.html
sorry? sorry? sorry isn't good enough ... I want blood!!! .... BLOOOOODDDDDDD!
... don't sweat it Justin, we all do it ...
hehe
What if the windows boxes were connected to the net through a masquerading firewall? -- would the need to licence be detected by the server or the client ... if it were the client then surely an abstract of removal such as a masquerading firewall would prevent this?
... need more coffee
just my rambling thoughts
this is a truly brilliant innovation ... it does open a very interesting line for future operating system/interface development, incorporating the 3D environment with process and file management alike; differing levels of control and access (above and beyond owner, group and all) through alternate tools (or weapons); coordination of system queues in a graphical and prehaps a more conceptual manner -- the possibilities and depth to which this could be taken is extraordinairy. The drawback in this I see being the hardware/processor intensive load which this method of interface may place on a system ... but then again, windows can do it :)
I quote verbatim ...
e 3/article3.html e 5/article5.html e 6/article6.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Bell
Newsgroups: aus.computers.linux
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:38 AM
Subject: Computerworld/Gartner FUD Embarrassment
> I notice that Computerworld Australia is promoting a lead story entitled
>
> "Gartner slams Linux with hostile review", which starts:
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> A damning report from Gartner has all but put the kiss of death on
> Linux, but devotees of the OS maintain it's a force to be reckoned with.
>
> "Linux is the 'hype du jour' that is thought by some to have the
> potential to upset Microsoft's dominance on the mainstream desktop," the
> Gartner Group report says.
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> However, a little research reveals that the report can be found (the
> quote above comes from the foot of the first page)at:
>
> http://www.gartner.com/webletter/microsoft/articl
> http://www.gartner.com/webletter/microsoft/articl
> http://www.gartner.com/webletter/microsoft/articl
>
> and the disclaimers at the foot of the pages clearly state "Microsoft
> Web Letter is published by Microsoft." and "Editorial supplied by
> Microsoft is independent of GartnerGroup analysis and in no way should
> this information be construed as a GartnerGroup endorsement of
> Microsoft's products and services."
>
> In other words, it's written by Microsoft, placed on the Gartner Group
> website to *look* like Gartner Group content. Since the Computerworld
> article never mentions the disclaimer or the true author, it comes
> across looking like an independent company has written an independent
> report which is damning of Linux, while in fact, this is not the case.
>
> Now, many of you reading this work for companies who pay Gartner Group
> large chunks of money for their indiustry analyses. You might like to
> bring to the attention of your management the fact that Gartner Group is
> clearly being paid by Microsoft to publish material which is biased and
> represents a conflict of interest. Make no mistake: Gartner Group is
> extremely influential,
>
> In addition, you might like to suggest to the author of the
> Computerworld piece, Ellen Creswell, that perhaps she should do her
> homework. You can reach her at Ellen_Creswell@idg.com.au.
>
> Some of you might recognise my name, and will realise why it is
> especially sad that I should say: the standard of technical journalism
> in Australia today is crap. I am really glad that I am no longer
> involved. I would be ashamed, if I published something like this.
>
> Best,
>
> --- Les [http://www.lesbell.com.au]
I have wasted the last hour or so here at work because of that site ... damn fine site :)
two words to describe their target audience ... script kiddies ... adolescent males who dont' get out to much, don't fit in with their peers, but want to be 'l33t' after watching 'hackers'
have seen that pictures somewhere before?
... I might have as well, but to refuse to say where for the risk of incrimidating myself
hrmmm
*grin*
.asp? does it seem ironic that a webpage for a linux distribution that is suppose to be so easy to use is hosted on a windows platform ... on telneting to the webserver ... Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
... :)
Joy!
Notice how that the sick idiots who are replying to this article with messages such as 'I like 13 year old's too' or 'legalise child pornography' are all posting as anonymous cowards?
For the record my name is Rob Casey - I live in Melbourne, Australia - and I think that those of you who truly believe that Naughton did nothing wrong are yourselves maligned.
Rob (aka. DoctorBob)
creativity is suppose to be something which pushes the realms of currently accepted notions, not rehashs old concepts. This research simply shows that a computer can rehash old concepts within different scenarios, not that it can creatively produce something de novo. further to this comes the idea of appeal - creativity can be appealing or appauling ... dependent upon the audience ... ;)
As the article notes ... this serial processing happens faster than the conscious mind can interpret and as such the difference between serial and parallel visual processing causes little difference in perception. It would be very interesting to see the processes involved in translating these serial images to memory and the crossover to parallel neural pathways.