Unlike the other responders to this reply, I agree that you have a strong point... the only problem lies in not carefully reading the GP post or my response to your post (just as many people have not carefully read your response I am now replying to)...
Not true. Right now he's in breach of contract
Note that I stated that the only place this could be possible is over the software distributed to Wired. The GP poster was pointing out that in the future he would either be under breach of contract/copyright infringement or forced to give away his source, which is what I was responding to in your retort. This is why I mentioned trolling, as it appeared to be a pretty obvious statement by the GP, which you then turned into a contriversial statement by only highlighting half of the issue. I'm pretty sure it was an unintentional troll, but the effect was the same.
All the points you made were valid, just not in response to the statements you quoted. Indeed, anyone caught redistributing his closed source version would be guilty of copyright infringement until the courts decided otherwise; but the GP post had already assumed (albeit loosely) that he had complied.
Looks like someone removed some of your karma, which I think is a bit extreme, considering everything you said was correct, just not in context. If anyone actually reads this post, please keep that in mind in the future.
One second here -- time to feed the troll -- how can you "steal" GPL'd code? The only breach of contract I can see is that he provided a copy to Wired without including full source modifications to PearPC, which it is obviously based upon (variable names like that do not crop up by coincidence). Making copies of GPL'd software is not pirating in any sense of the word (even the RIAA sense), and thus making copies is completely legal, and even encouraged by the license. What the parent post was stating is that either a) he gets sued for not complying with the PearPC license, or b) he complies, and everyone can distribute the source code to his software for free. It is indeed a lose-lose situation for him.
On another note, it appears he's trying for an SCO style attack, where he repeats things so many times that people start to think that it must be true... and he's probably counting on the PearPC folks not having enough money to fight him in court. That's if he's actually planning to release his modified copy, to anyone but the press, which is also in question.
knowing a bit about PPC/x86 code translation and cross-platform emulation, and also knowing others who are currently working on many emulation projects, I can safely say that 80% performance is pretty much impossible in what he is doing. First off, you have little-endian vs. big endian architectures to deal with; then you have to also factor in OS overhead, memory management translation, processor-unique opcodes that must have their logic translated to a different meme, incompatible register types, etc. The PearPC guys did an excellent job of overcoming all these hurdles, but as anyone who has used PearPC knows, routing around the obstacles comes with a massive performance hit. If he said that CherryOS took an 80% performance hit and that a technology beta was going to be released soon, he would at least be talking in the realms of remote possibility.
I hope he likes bartending, or that the poor fool whose name he's possibly been using finds out what he's been up to before it is too late.
this is the reason that RadioShack is no longer collecting info, and the reason that the information on the ID shown will not be collected for data mining by game stores either.
Do you have software patents?
Sadly, we have a patent pass-through agreement with the US Patent office.
Legal protections on DRM?
No, we have no DMCA.
Anti-filesharing legislation?
Just the opposite; in Canada (see old slashdot postings) it has been found legal to both upload and download content regardless of copyright. ISPs are also protected against prosecution for traffic that travels over their lines.
Will you have these things soon?
Well, our version of the.*AA has all the rulings on appeal, but they probably won't get that far with them. The US has been pressuring Canada on the DMCA front for years, but so far the government is resisting the pressure.
Due to the fact that we aren't a SLAPP-happy culture up here, there have been relatively few instances of lawsuits based on software patents -- the courts would not look on any business to favourably that tried to use these as part of their bullying tactics.
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ (PearPC) runs at around 20% speed, which leads me to believe that not only did the CherryOS people rip off the PearPC project, but they also inverted their ratio.
The whole philosopy is make the easy stuff even easier and make the hard stuff practically impossible.
Odd... I'll be doing movie editing in iMovie, and with one key combo, I'm using a full fledged unix-style shell to grep the output and process it through a perl script. The debug and compiling tools come with the OS, all of the settings for the OS underpinnings are tweakable, and readily accessible. What exactly is it that you consider to be "hard stuff"?
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Actually, the root account exists; it just has the password disabled. Also, you don't need to install it for fink; sudo works just fine.
Actually, to be the MSDevil's advocate, although the OS X OS is superior in ease-of-use, Apple hardware still falls behind in many of the areas Anand depends upon -- most noticeably in the GPU department. Since the entire OS depends on the GPU, this becomes an issue on macs. You can't buy a comparably equipped Dell, because there are some things that come standard with a Dell that don't ship for the Mac, and some things that come standard on a Mac that don't ship with a Dell. Anand was having problems with the first issue.
Well, as someone who lives just North of the US Border, I have to say that a lot of talented US innovators are already moving.
A number of others are living in border states and are working on getting to know the Canadian technology world so that if they have to, they can emigrate quickly. In Canada, we take privacy seriously; there is a strict Federal Privacy act that all governmental institutions have to answer to, and at the beginning of this year, a new business privacy act went into place as well, protecting individuals from shoddy business handling of information.
Slashdot has covered our copyright laws and trials enough that I won't get into that side of things. The UK probably hasn't given the US emigration possibility a huge amount of thought, but believe me, in many Canadian provinces, it has been a major item of consideration when modifying our IT-related laws.
Look at commercial even further... various agencies have gone after people distributing things on their website for free by arguing commercial gain due to banner ads, paypal donation links, etc. So, if you have one of these on a site where you host FOSS recordings or audiovisual works, that would make those works commercial by the definitions currently in the books, would it not?
Also, another issue I haven't seen discussed yet -- if we're talking about the illegal distribution of works, who, being a felon already, is going to provide accurate information? The only people who would be providing such information would be people who wouldn't need to provide it in the first place.
Maybe California defines commercial as when the copyright owner is a corporation and not the individuals who originally created the work in question.
The other issue here is their incentive for this bill. It seems to me from the wording that this is designed to go after people leaking the preview copies of CDs and DVDs, to stop the kind of fiasco that happened a while back where someone was giving their old copies to an aid who was then making them available on the internet. Coming from that viewpoint, the lawmakers in question probably haven't even considered the other methods and works that will be affected by this bill. If you live in California, it is your responsability to provide case studies of unintended consequences, if you want to get this repealed.
I've got an even better idea: Quicktime has a text layer; you could just drop some pictures of your cat, a snapshot of the dvd, etc. into the file, and have the movie review in the text layer. it would save as LOTR-3-towers.mov. Legit, cross-platform, and something that a badly written bot would probably flag.
I guess I'll clarify; Thank you for this well-written response post.
What I was really getting at is that slashdot could set up their data as pure XML, using XSLT to transform it into XHTML. This is what the linked site talks about. This way, the data, transform, and layout would be separated, and anyone who wanted to could modify how slashdot looked to *them* simply by adding in their own additional transform or css. This format would also make it much easier to fix some of the bugs that have cropped up in the slashcode over the years. Of course, it would still involve the same rewrite that would be needed to bring it up to HTML4.0 standards, but in the future, the next time an update is needed, it would be much simpler.
Just out of curiosity, why was the troll modded up? No IP Lawyer would ever come to that mixture of true and false conclusions -- and no massive rollout for a large company would happen without first reading the license attached to the software they are using... would they?
Just stick.nyud.net:8090 on the end of your domain name (before the/) and it'll grab the content and cache it -- any future queries will return their cache instead of downloading from the original page. The coral links also work like your web browser and update the content when it is out of date.
Anyone else notice the difference in tone when responding about supporting Linux & FOSS? It has much less of the consumer market than Apple, yet he says they're "working on it". Is this because they can take whatever they want, without giving as much back, is it because they want to "stick it to Apple", or is there something else I'm not seeing here?
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Not true. Right now he's in breach of contract
Note that I stated that the only place this could be possible is over the software distributed to Wired. The GP poster was pointing out that in the future he would either be under breach of contract/copyright infringement or forced to give away his source, which is what I was responding to in your retort. This is why I mentioned trolling, as it appeared to be a pretty obvious statement by the GP, which you then turned into a contriversial statement by only highlighting half of the issue. I'm pretty sure it was an unintentional troll, but the effect was the same.
All the points you made were valid, just not in response to the statements you quoted. Indeed, anyone caught redistributing his closed source version would be guilty of copyright infringement until the courts decided otherwise; but the GP post had already assumed (albeit loosely) that he had complied.
Looks like someone removed some of your karma, which I think is a bit extreme, considering everything you said was correct, just not in context. If anyone actually reads this post, please keep that in mind in the future.
You already said they were running on Windows.
That's why he qualified the statement with unsupported ;)
Why has nobody modded this as funny yet?
On another note, it appears he's trying for an SCO style attack, where he repeats things so many times that people start to think that it must be true... and he's probably counting on the PearPC folks not having enough money to fight him in court. That's if he's actually planning to release his modified copy, to anyone but the press, which is also in question.
knowing a bit about PPC/x86 code translation and cross-platform emulation, and also knowing others who are currently working on many emulation projects, I can safely say that 80% performance is pretty much impossible in what he is doing. First off, you have little-endian vs. big endian architectures to deal with; then you have to also factor in OS overhead, memory management translation, processor-unique opcodes that must have their logic translated to a different meme, incompatible register types, etc. The PearPC guys did an excellent job of overcoming all these hurdles, but as anyone who has used PearPC knows, routing around the obstacles comes with a massive performance hit. If he said that CherryOS took an 80% performance hit and that a technology beta was going to be released soon, he would at least be talking in the realms of remote possibility.
I hope he likes bartending, or that the poor fool whose name he's possibly been using finds out what he's been up to before it is too late.
this is the reason that RadioShack is no longer collecting info, and the reason that the information on the ID shown will not be collected for data mining by game stores either.
There is no reason to settle for a PC that doesn't do those things well -- there are efficient computers out there that will.
Of course, there's also the single-point-of-failure issue, which is where modular products are a definite boon.
Sadly, we have a patent pass-through agreement with the US Patent office.
Legal protections on DRM?
No, we have no DMCA.
Anti-filesharing legislation?
Just the opposite; in Canada (see old slashdot postings) it has been found legal to both upload and download content regardless of copyright. ISPs are also protected against prosecution for traffic that travels over their lines.
Will you have these things soon? .*AA has all the rulings on appeal, but they probably won't get that far with them. The US has been pressuring Canada on the DMCA front for years, but so far the government is resisting the pressure.
Well, our version of the
Due to the fact that we aren't a SLAPP-happy culture up here, there have been relatively few instances of lawsuits based on software patents -- the courts would not look on any business to favourably that tried to use these as part of their bullying tactics.
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ (PearPC) runs at around 20% speed, which leads me to believe that not only did the CherryOS people rip off the PearPC project, but they also inverted their ratio.
Odd... I'll be doing movie editing in iMovie, and with one key combo, I'm using a full fledged unix-style shell to grep the output and process it through a perl script. The debug and compiling tools come with the OS, all of the settings for the OS underpinnings are tweakable, and readily accessible. What exactly is it that you consider to be "hard stuff"?
As for linux envy... OS X is a BSD derivative! http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/ and http://gentoo-wiki.com/Gentoo_MacOS are some more ports friendly systems, as opposed to Fink's apt-style system. Maybe "Linux curious" would be a better term ;)
Actually, to be the MSDevil's advocate, although the OS X OS is superior in ease-of-use, Apple hardware still falls behind in many of the areas Anand depends upon -- most noticeably in the GPU department. Since the entire OS depends on the GPU, this becomes an issue on macs. You can't buy a comparably equipped Dell, because there are some things that come standard with a Dell that don't ship for the Mac, and some things that come standard on a Mac that don't ship with a Dell. Anand was having problems with the first issue.
A number of others are living in border states and are working on getting to know the Canadian technology world so that if they have to, they can emigrate quickly. In Canada, we take privacy seriously; there is a strict Federal Privacy act that all governmental institutions have to answer to, and at the beginning of this year, a new business privacy act went into place as well, protecting individuals from shoddy business handling of information.
Slashdot has covered our copyright laws and trials enough that I won't get into that side of things. The UK probably hasn't given the US emigration possibility a huge amount of thought, but believe me, in many Canadian provinces, it has been a major item of consideration when modifying our IT-related laws.
video == copyrighted video
music == copyrighted music
However,
copyrighted != illegal
legal != public domain
You know things are getting bad when even posters on slashdot start to incorporate the lies into their worldview.
Also, another issue I haven't seen discussed yet -- if we're talking about the illegal distribution of works, who, being a felon already, is going to provide accurate information? The only people who would be providing such information would be people who wouldn't need to provide it in the first place.
Maybe California defines commercial as when the copyright owner is a corporation and not the individuals who originally created the work in question.
The other issue here is their incentive for this bill. It seems to me from the wording that this is designed to go after people leaking the preview copies of CDs and DVDs, to stop the kind of fiasco that happened a while back where someone was giving their old copies to an aid who was then making them available on the internet. Coming from that viewpoint, the lawmakers in question probably haven't even considered the other methods and works that will be affected by this bill. If you live in California, it is your responsability to provide case studies of unintended consequences, if you want to get this repealed.
I hope I'm not the only one who sees the irony in digital rights erosion kicking in for americans on their independence day.
I take it you don't like streaming to file from the BBC website? ;)
I've got an even better idea: Quicktime has a text layer; you could just drop some pictures of your cat, a snapshot of the dvd, etc. into the file, and have the movie review in the text layer. it would save as LOTR-3-towers.mov. Legit, cross-platform, and something that a badly written bot would probably flag.
But of course... the American ones don't get caught.
What I was really getting at is that slashdot could set up their data as pure XML, using XSLT to transform it into XHTML. This is what the linked site talks about. This way, the data, transform, and layout would be separated, and anyone who wanted to could modify how slashdot looked to *them* simply by adding in their own additional transform or css. This format would also make it much easier to fix some of the bugs that have cropped up in the slashcode over the years. Of course, it would still involve the same rewrite that would be needed to bring it up to HTML4.0 standards, but in the future, the next time an update is needed, it would be much simpler.
I have one URL for you: XSLT. No css, no html, just news articles marked up with XML. Been a W3C standard since 1999.
Now on to the correct use of "punctuation," which goes inside the "quotes."
Just out of curiosity, why was the troll modded up? No IP Lawyer would ever come to that mixture of true and false conclusions -- and no massive rollout for a large company would happen without first reading the license attached to the software they are using... would they?
warty-amd64.iso.torrent
warty-i386.iso.torrent
warty-powerpc.iso.torrent
Just stick .nyud.net:8090 on the end of your domain name (before the /) and it'll grab the content and cache it -- any future queries will return their cache instead of downloading from the original page. The coral links also work like your web browser and update the content when it is out of date.
Anyone else notice the difference in tone when responding about supporting Linux & FOSS? It has much less of the consumer market than Apple, yet he says they're "working on it". Is this because they can take whatever they want, without giving as much back, is it because they want to "stick it to Apple", or is there something else I'm not seeing here?