Whilst we are (sort of) on topic, I am looking at putting Linux on a couple of workstations and a couple of servers. I am looking at cAos http://www.caosity.org/ (built from RedHat Enterprise source) and Debian Sarge http://www.debian.org/ (assuming it is released when I am ready to install).
Does anybody know of a good comparison between these two (or even RHEL vs Debian)? rather than relying on potentially missing something by looking only by myself.
You think that because the USA, knowing where Warren Anderson lives (unlike the tens of thousands of people who died because it was decided that Union Carbide wanted to save 30 pounds a day and turn of safety systems) and harbouring him from justice is not responsible for anything?
You think that it is OK for a company of your country to commit human rights attrocities in other countries and then flee from their responsibilities? But then, its OK as long as it doesn't happen to you right?
But do you know how much those safety systems cost to operate? It was a *massive* £30 per day that's not per year that's *per day*. We are talking about huge costs here!
How else do you expect that Warren Anderson would be able to pay the £1,750 for tennis club membership on Long Island? How else do you expect him to pay £680,000 for a holiday home, house in the Hamptons and winter holidays in Miami?
I mean come on people if that sort of lifestyle isn't worth the deaths of tens of thousands of people and the continuing suffering and health prolems of hundreds of thousands more than I ask you what is?
Next at 11, Warren Anderson describes Pol Pot as a "really nice guy!"
"1. There was no siren and no warning--people woke with the gases already in their faces, filling their mouths, noses and lungs with excruciating pain. 2. NONE of safety systems were functioning on the night of the disaster--six in all. 3. Union Carbide under-invested in an inherently hazardous facility located in a crowded neighborhood, used admittedly unproven designs, stored lethal MIC in reckless quantities, dismantled safety systems and cut down on safety staff and training in an effort to cut costs. 4. Union Carbide and its new owner, Dow Chemical, continue to blame the disaster on a fictitious and unnamed worker, and deny their own negligence. 5. In the wake of the disaster, Carbide claimed that the gas was harmless, when it knew it was lethal (as described in its own manuals). 6. Dow-Carbide refuses to share all its medical information about the health effects of the gas it released, MIC--information that doctors could use to save lives--claiming the information is a "trade secret". 7. Union Carbide fled India and abandoned its Bhopal plant, leaving thousands of tons of dangerous chemicals behind, which are now poisoning the water of the same people Carbide first poisoned 20 years ago. As more people grow sick, Dow-Carbide still refuses to clean up its pollution in Bhopal. 8. The Union Carbide Corporation, charged criminally with "culpable homicide" in the wake of the disaster, has refused to appear in court or stand trial. Union Carbide is now an international fugitive from justice, considered an "absconder" under Indian law."
IMHO Dow Chemical could have done no worse had they set out to intentionally kill those people. Warren Anderson, responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people is now quite well off on Long Island.
Read between the lines. "Sick with daughter, up until 7 AM" and then he says "Overslept until 10". It was a lie.
Perhaps if you had the slightest bit or compassion or decency you would understand. He had a sick daughter, he stayed with her during the night until 6AM. Surprise, surprise, he was tired from getting little to no sleep during the night, and slept until 10AM. Apparently you are such an asshole that you have difficulty understanding that. But then again you don't give a flying fuck that his daughter was sick (as you have expressed in other posts).
I can only hope that you grow up (a lot), drop the attitude, and more importantly if you show the same amount of care and compassion to your children (if you have any) as you do to Joe and his children, then perhaps they should be in foster care.
You didn't even read the article (or anything associated with it). It was *not* a player who was thought to be offensive it was a GM. Not only that but it was apparently a sponsored, one off event where (male) players could buy in game unique items.
A number of female characters had to wait for a number of hours to partcipate in the event and after being apparently denegrated by the GM felt that they didn't much appreciate it.
I know this is/, and nobody RTFA and the thought process goes something like dick first brain second, but you caould at least try.
The Australian Copyright Council publishes information sheets dealing with copyright in Australia. You can see their website at http://copyright.org.au
One such information sheet "Infringement: What can I do?" (http://www.copyright.org.au/PDF/InfoSheets/G052.p df) states:
"In some circumstances, letters claiming that someone has infringed copyright can result in problems under the law of defamation or under section 202 of the Copyright Act (which prohibits the making of groundless threats of legal proceedings)."
Interesting to note: It is apparently not copyright infringement if you copy something to review it (such as for a magazine (although specifics are not given)). The informaiton sheets are very informative (who would have guessed?).
It is also interesting to compare the webistes; copyright.org (US site), compared to copyright.org.au (AU copyright website). The later gives out factual and easy to understand information without any sort of obvious agenda.
If the Internet is your livelyhood, then the threat of being shutdown or defaced (thereby damaging your company's reputation) is very real...
No, they are not terrorists in threatening people's lives, but if they can prove that they can hit the economy, they accomplish the same goal: to create fear.
And in other news I attribute last months blackout to terrorism (I am still terrified of the dark). Obviously the electricity company knows this (why else would I use electric lighting???)
My only problem is that having the entire elec. company arrested under new Australian anti-terrorism laws will leave me permanently in the dark. Clearly this is a case of state sponsored terrorism!
They knew that they'd get their wrists slapped, perhaps fined heavily.
The company take on it? They knew they may get caught up for it, and slapped hard. But these jinks would get the 'message' across in a spectacular way.
A good standards board would make Microsoft to fund an ad campaign which points out their decpetive conduct/mistake (in a manner equal to the original campaign) and offer compensation (determined by the standards board) to all affected customers.
I think this is the reason I don't see many Microsoft ads in Australia...
To a typical slashdotter this news reads: Beware! French governement revokes freedom of speech of USA citizens.
To people who use their brain: French government enforces local laws on companies conducting commerce in France.
If Yahoo markets itself to french citizens and conducts commerce with french citizens (to buy nazi related material), yahoo, *by choice* is subjecting itself to the law of France.
What would you have otherwise? Yahoo be immune from litigation in all countries bar the USA just because their HQ is in the US? Wake up, if you choose to do business in a country you are subject to the law of that country (having a website end in.com means *nothing*).
But hey if you are too stupid to think, I have a large tower with great views situated in prime real-estate in the middle of Paris for sale...
Sure, you spent lots of money to display darkness, but you can be happy knowing that your new box is displaying more frames of darkenss per second than you have ever seen before! (or can't see as the case may be).
Indeed, It always perplexes me that if in the USA, if you don't have health insurance you don't get treatment. I mean, really, what kind of system is that? There you are, an arm and a leg held on by a single thread and the medico will ask: Dr: "Do you have health insurance?" Joe Blo: "No doctor I don't but I *am* about to die and if you could find it in your heart to save my life I wold be very grateful, the hipocratic oath and all that..." Dr: "No. NEXT!"
When I was student we deciphered the password encryption code and the unencrypted the admin passwords for all the computer on the local LAN. We did this in class and our teacher watched on in amusement. After we had finished we were told "OK now that you have the admin passwords I know and you know that if anything goes wrong with the network I will come looking for you first."
We spent a lot of time that year admin'ing the systems, fixing what other students stuffed up and making the network more secure.
It was a good move by him, he didn't really know that much about computers and after that happened he didn't have to, he knew we would always have to fix the mess others had made.:-P
They have a right to obtain evidence to support an article on the security systems, even by showing how the system can be broken into.
I agree totally. Commiting a crime so that the crime can be used to alert our fellow citizens to an important matter is a small thing and should not be punished. In fact currently I am writing an article about how killing idiots will increase the average IQ of the world population. Tomorrow I will be "obtaining evidence" to support my theory.:-)
I wonder what implications this will have in Australia where the Privacy Act covers collection and distibution of private information such as email addresses...
In fact, our Air Force is so run down that even its transport aircraft now break down with regular monotony. Any government that believes that an air capability is an unimportant part of defense is crazy.
As a result of this "head in the sand" attitide, Australia and the USA are both pretty pissed off with New Zealand because it can no longer pull its full weight in ANZUS, the alliance between the three parties.
For the mods and other people who don't get jokes: Tomorrow, when the War began is a well known fiction book (in Aus at least) where Aus gets invaded (by an un-named foe) and NZ helps out (before they get whacked too).
Seriously though I think NZ has a much more insightful govt than Aus. Ways in which NZ rocks: 1. Won't let USA's nuclear powered warships into harbour, way to stand up for what you believe in. 2. Has a much better relationship with Maori's than OZ has with Aboriginies 3. Doesn't kiss G W Bush's ass.
In any case, if the Aus govt really starts to give you grief, give them the finger and the Aus public will love you for it:-)
Using neclear plants as a backup for "green" energy is a good idea and all but as far as I know neclear plants don't work like that.
Neclear plants, I believe, are best used at a stable rate (ie 100% power output). Other traditional power plants are better suited to variable output such as gas or coal.
Here is a link that somewhat backs up my claim, though google will give you more: Hydrogen power
I don't think the parent poster could have been any more insightful. The UN is only as effective as it's individual parts let it be. If the security coucil would stop crushing the vast amount of proposals (points to the USA representative) perhaps they would get the big issues dealth with.
From my own observations when the issues are small enough to escape the attention of the 5 veto members (before they can veto it), then the UN is actually able to get in there and get some work done. Case in point: East Timor
I sympathise, the vast majority of customers always think they are right. They won't admit it when wrong, and when you point it out to them they quickly change their story to the right one, the one you just told them and then make it out as though it was *you* who was saying the wrong thing all along.
Customers who order the wrong thing and then blame it on you, customers who order something and don't come and pick it up, customers who whine and complain just because they have nothing better to do. Customers who treat you like dirt because they think they can. The teachers (you can tell a teacher from the minute they walk in the door) who treat you like a child. Customers who lie to your face to make up some excuse for who they are so stupid and I just want to rip their throat out and spit down their neck...
Then there are the cusomters who *abuse* *their* *children* while in your store, right there in front of you... Don't get me started on those.
I prefer a pitchfork or a shovel to deal with idiots. (I have one sitting by me right now...) I find it is much more satisfying to beat them to death slowly (rather than a quick shot to the head).
I can understand why *you* might make Firefoix the only available browser, but if it were me I would be happy charging them for the mistakes they continue to make. Sure, I would tell them about, and recommend alternatives (eg Firefox), but if they *want* to get rooted and pay you for fixing it, isn't it win-win all round? You get paid, and they get a working browser until the next time they stuff up. Maybe they like it that way:-)
OR look at it this way: If we keep helping idiots they will continue to breed:-P
It may be "usable", but it is... less than beautiful, to say so. He could take clue from this guys:
Design Eye for the Usability Guy
It's funny you say that because designbyfire.com looks horrible to me. It doesn't fit my current window size and the actual content scrolls to more than 120 pages...
Unless of course that's the kind of thing you like:-P
Slashdot Mirror
Whilst we are (sort of) on topic, I am looking at putting Linux on a couple of workstations and a couple of servers. I am looking at cAos http://www.caosity.org/ (built from RedHat Enterprise source) and Debian Sarge http://www.debian.org/ (assuming it is released when I am ready to install).
Does anybody know of a good comparison between these two (or even RHEL vs Debian)? rather than relying on potentially missing something by looking only by myself.
You think that because the USA, knowing where Warren Anderson lives (unlike the tens of thousands of people who died because it was decided that Union Carbide wanted to save 30 pounds a day and turn of safety systems) and harbouring him from justice is not responsible for anything?
You think that it is OK for a company of your country to commit human rights attrocities in other countries and then flee from their responsibilities? But then, its OK as long as it doesn't happen to you right?
But do you know how much those safety systems cost to operate? It was a *massive* £30 per day that's not per year that's *per day*. We are talking about huge costs here!
How else do you expect that Warren Anderson would be able to pay the £1,750 for tennis club membership on Long Island? How else do you expect him to pay £680,000 for a holiday home, house in the Hamptons and winter holidays in Miami?
I mean come on people if that sort of lifestyle isn't worth the deaths of tens of thousands of people and the continuing suffering and health prolems of hundreds of thousands more than I ask you what is?
Next at 11, Warren Anderson describes Pol Pot as a "really nice guy!"
From http://www.petitiononline.com/bhopal/
"1. There was no siren and no warning--people woke with the gases already in their faces, filling their mouths, noses and lungs with excruciating pain.
2. NONE of safety systems were functioning on the night of the disaster--six in all.
3. Union Carbide under-invested in an inherently hazardous facility located in a crowded neighborhood, used admittedly unproven designs, stored lethal MIC in reckless quantities, dismantled safety systems and cut down on safety staff and training in an effort to cut costs.
4. Union Carbide and its new owner, Dow Chemical, continue to blame the disaster on a fictitious and unnamed worker, and deny their own negligence.
5. In the wake of the disaster, Carbide claimed that the gas was harmless, when it knew it was lethal (as described in its own manuals).
6. Dow-Carbide refuses to share all its medical information about the health effects of the gas it released, MIC--information that doctors could use to save lives--claiming the information is a "trade secret".
7. Union Carbide fled India and abandoned its Bhopal plant, leaving thousands of tons of dangerous chemicals behind, which are now poisoning the water of the same people Carbide first poisoned 20 years ago. As more people grow sick, Dow-Carbide still refuses to clean up its pollution in Bhopal.
8. The Union Carbide Corporation, charged criminally with "culpable homicide" in the wake of the disaster, has refused to appear in court or stand trial. Union Carbide is now an international fugitive from justice, considered an "absconder" under Indian law."
IMHO Dow Chemical could have done no worse had they set out to intentionally kill those people. Warren Anderson, responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people is now quite well off on Long Island.
Perhaps if you had the slightest bit or compassion or decency you would understand. He had a sick daughter, he stayed with her during the night until 6AM. Surprise, surprise, he was tired from getting little to no sleep during the night, and slept until 10AM. Apparently you are such an asshole that you have difficulty understanding that. But then again you don't give a flying fuck that his daughter was sick (as you have expressed in other posts).
I can only hope that you grow up (a lot), drop the attitude, and more importantly if you show the same amount of care and compassion to your children (if you have any) as you do to Joe and his children, then perhaps they should be in foster care.
Parent is insightful? More like a AC troll...
/, and nobody RTFA and the thought process goes something like dick first brain second, but you caould at least try.
You didn't even read the article (or anything associated with it). It was *not* a player who was thought to be offensive it was a GM. Not only that but it was apparently a sponsored, one off event where (male) players could buy in game unique items.
A number of female characters had to wait for a number of hours to partcipate in the event and after being apparently denegrated by the GM felt that they didn't much appreciate it.
I know this is
Oh, you mean the democratic system of govenment which you chose for Iraq? Is that what you mean "countries copying"?
Is Florida not knowing how to count what you mean by "proud"?
Is less than half the polulation turning up to vote what you mean by "system"?
To my mind, Dibold fits right in there
Don't get mad, they are jokes OK?
The Australian Copyright Council publishes information sheets dealing with copyright in Australia. You can see their website at http://copyright.org.au
p df) states:
One such information sheet "Infringement: What can I do?" (http://www.copyright.org.au/PDF/InfoSheets/G052.
"In some circumstances, letters claiming that someone has infringed copyright can result in problems under the law of defamation or under section 202 of the Copyright Act (which prohibits the making of groundless threats of legal proceedings)."
Interesting to note: It is apparently not copyright infringement if you copy something to review it (such as for a magazine (although specifics are not given)). The informaiton sheets are very informative (who would have guessed?).
It is also interesting to compare the webistes; copyright.org (US site), compared to copyright.org.au (AU copyright website). The later gives out factual and easy to understand information without any sort of obvious agenda.
And in other news I attribute last months blackout to terrorism (I am still terrified of the dark). Obviously the electricity company knows this (why else would I use electric lighting???)
My only problem is that having the entire elec. company arrested under new Australian anti-terrorism laws will leave me permanently in the dark. Clearly this is a case of state sponsored terrorism!
A good standards board would make Microsoft to fund an ad campaign which points out their decpetive conduct/mistake (in a manner equal to the original campaign) and offer compensation (determined by the standards board) to all affected customers.
I think this is the reason I don't see many Microsoft ads in Australia...
To a typical slashdotter this news reads:
.com means *nothing*).
Beware! French governement revokes freedom of speech of USA citizens.
To people who use their brain:
French government enforces local laws on companies conducting commerce in France.
If Yahoo markets itself to french citizens and conducts commerce with french citizens (to buy nazi related material), yahoo, *by choice* is subjecting itself to the law of France.
What would you have otherwise? Yahoo be immune from litigation in all countries bar the USA just because their HQ is in the US? Wake up, if you choose to do business in a country you are subject to the law of that country (having a website end in
But hey if you are too stupid to think, I have a large tower with great views situated in prime real-estate in the middle of Paris for sale...
Sure, you spent lots of money to display darkness, but you can be happy knowing that your new box is displaying more frames of darkenss per second than you have ever seen before! (or can't see as the case may be).
Indeed, It always perplexes me that if in the USA, if you don't have health insurance you don't get treatment. I mean, really, what kind of system is that? There you are, an arm and a leg held on by a single thread and the medico will ask:
Dr: "Do you have health insurance?"
Joe Blo: "No doctor I don't but I *am* about to die and if you could find it in your heart to save my life I wold be very grateful, the hipocratic oath and all that..."
Dr: "No. NEXT!"
Somebody please tell me i am wrong...
When I was student we deciphered the password encryption code and the unencrypted the admin passwords for all the computer on the local LAN. We did this in class and our teacher watched on in amusement. After we had finished we were told "OK now that you have the admin passwords I know and you know that if anything goes wrong with the network I will come looking for you first."
:-P
We spent a lot of time that year admin'ing the systems, fixing what other students stuffed up and making the network more secure.
It was a good move by him, he didn't really know that much about computers and after that happened he didn't have to, he knew we would always have to fix the mess others had made.
I agree totally. Commiting a crime so that the crime can be used to alert our fellow citizens to an important matter is a small thing and should not be punished. In fact currently I am writing an article about how killing idiots will increase the average IQ of the world population. Tomorrow I will be "obtaining evidence" to support my theory.
A rock fight? Damn spolied kids, back in my day we didn't have the luxury of rocks Dag nammit!
In any case a good game of tag can only be enhanced by the use of RFID tags. Stops those cheating kids from pretending they weren't "tagged".
Am I the only one who went to check if verisign was first on the list? :-P
I wonder what implications this will have in Australia where the Privacy Act covers collection and distibution of private information such as email addresses...
Only IE will work? But in Firefox it says it will only take a minute...
"Depending on your connection speed, this might take a minute..."
I'll wait all day if I have to!
Aus is pissed off? No way, we just expect you to get stuck in when we get invaded ala "Tomorrow, When the War Began")
For the mods and other people who don't get jokes: Tomorrow, when the War began is a well known fiction book (in Aus at least) where Aus gets invaded (by an un-named foe) and NZ helps out (before they get whacked too).
Seriously though I think NZ has a much more insightful govt than Aus.
Ways in which NZ rocks:
1. Won't let USA's nuclear powered warships into harbour, way to stand up for what you believe in.
2. Has a much better relationship with Maori's than OZ has with Aboriginies
3. Doesn't kiss G W Bush's ass.
In any case, if the Aus govt really starts to give you grief, give them the finger and the Aus public will love you for it
Using neclear plants as a backup for "green" energy is a good idea and all but as far as I know neclear plants don't work like that.
Neclear plants, I believe, are best used at a stable rate (ie 100% power output). Other traditional power plants are better suited to variable output such as gas or coal.
Here is a link that somewhat backs up my claim, though google will give you more: Hydrogen power
I don't think the parent poster could have been any more insightful. The UN is only as effective as it's individual parts let it be. If the security coucil would stop crushing the vast amount of proposals (points to the USA representative) perhaps they would get the big issues dealth with.
From my own observations when the issues are small enough to escape the attention of the 5 veto members (before they can veto it), then the UN is actually able to get in there and get some work done. Case in point: East Timor
Of course the unpaid bill that's crippling the UN owed by the USA doesn't help much either.
I sympathise, the vast majority of customers always think they are right. They won't admit it when wrong, and when you point it out to them they quickly change their story to the right one, the one you just told them and then make it out as though it was *you* who was saying the wrong thing all along.
Customers who order the wrong thing and then blame it on you, customers who order something and don't come and pick it up, customers who whine and complain just because they have nothing better to do. Customers who treat you like dirt because they think they can. The teachers (you can tell a teacher from the minute they walk in the door) who treat you like a child. Customers who lie to your face to make up some excuse for who they are so stupid and I just want to rip their throat out and spit down their neck...
Then there are the cusomters who *abuse* *their* *children* while in your store, right there in front of you... Don't get me started on those.
I prefer a pitchfork or a shovel to deal with idiots. (I have one sitting by me right now...)
I find it is much more satisfying to beat them to death slowly (rather than a quick shot to the head).
CUSTOMERS SUCK!
I can understand why *you* might make Firefoix the only available browser, but if it were me I would be happy charging them for the mistakes they continue to make. Sure, I would tell them about, and recommend alternatives (eg Firefox), but if they *want* to get rooted and pay you for fixing it, isn't it win-win all round? You get paid, and they get a working browser until the next time they stuff up. Maybe they like it that way :-)
:-P
OR look at it this way: If we keep helping idiots they will continue to breed
It's funny you say that because designbyfire.com looks horrible to me. It doesn't fit my current window size and the actual content scrolls to more than 120 pages...
Unless of course that's the kind of thing you like