Nice ad hominem examples there. It doesn't really have the same "impact" without the emotionally charged subject matter. Try again, without being such a knucklehead.
I'm sorry. You only said it was stupid, which it certainly was. I was conflating your post and another in my mind when replying. So take that post, sans the inflammatory "fuck you" and "asshole" bits:)
No, really. Don't be such an asshole. When she learned she was being sued by the RIAA, she was probably pretty desperate. $3,500 is a lot more than your average american has in the bank. I make very good money myself, and $3,500 would cripple me financially for at least a year.
It was a bad move for sure, but she probably couldn't afford to pay $3,500. Now they're possibly going to RUIN HER LIFE unless they are "lenient."
If they really charge some poor woman $150,000 USD for down/uploading 200 songs... I'm going to snap, and murder some people.
Ok. So maybe not. I have too much to live for. But, with the level of injustice rising so high, I can see someone with less to lose to do something like that. Easily.
I mean... what we're talking about is potentially ruining someone's life.
Traditional economics doesn't come into play when corrupt organizations worm their way into a position that gives them a right to practically print money.
Spoken like a true ignorant American who doesn't know shit about the rest of the world, or, indeed, about the politics of the United States itself.
The entire planet opposed us for a reason, or rather, many reasons. Even the countries that "supported" us, did so against the wishes of the majority of their respective populations, and only to win our favor.
Just look at the disaster we've created in Iraq. All we've done is destroy infrastructure, further damaging the quality of life of Iraqis, and even worse, removed the keystone preventing civil war -- yes, Saddam Hussein and his government, our former ally. Oh... and built an oil pipeline...
But F@H is, MAYBE $300, over the course of a whole year. Tiny slices added to your power bill. That's much easier to deal with than a lump sum of a $300 donation at one time.
Apple's motivation is far more likely that they see more benefit to paying this extortion and being, well, along with Creative of course, the only ones allowed to use a hierarchical interface for selecting music...
I wasn't talking to you. But all the same, you're just as ignorant. "Standing up for yourself" can get you no less than permanently injured, or even killed, with a serious bully problem.
I can't believe all you fucking people who think you were "bullied," and spout bullshit at us folks who really had problems. You think I didn't learn to stand up for myself? A lot of good that does when a 300lb steroid raging punk attacks you at random, or a guy with a neverending grudge from a football accident, who is quite possibly a sociopath, attacks you at random, even at gunpoint, and has parents with connections, and never, ever, has to account for his actions.
People who are sane enough to back down when someone stands up for himself are not real bullies. You've never faced real bullies.
I did learn to stand up for myself, and it serves me in my everyday life. But not everything in life can be controlled. You're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.
There's a big difference between "kick the shit out of the bully" and "don't be a victim". One is an aggressive act, another is a demand for respect. They do not equate.
It is entirely obvious to me now that you nor your children have ever faced serious bullying in your lives. A "demand for respect" is not a defense against any form of serious bullying.
You should get off your high horse, you ignorant man.
It sounds insensitive to tell a child that being bullied is partly their fault, but it's not. What's insensitive is telling them that it's NOT their fault at all, and letting them continue falling into the same bully traps.
Perhaps 'fault' is not quite the right word to use; it is emotionally charged. But I would say that, often, there are steps the victim could have taken to defuse the situation and prevent the bullying from taking place.
Just like rape victims, right? Or victims of car-jackings? Or nerds at Denny's who are beaten within' inches of their lives by football players...?
Yeah, it's definately those stupid victims that are the problem. It has nothing to do with this poisonous culture we have created.
I will never understand how Just Making Shit Up helps people deal with their uncertainties about life, the universe, and everything. To my eyes it appears that it simply causes rifts between people who can't agree on which Made Up Shit to believe in.
And pray tell us all just what Truth any religion has ever stumbled upon while blindly fumbling around in the dark, feeling around for the anal cavity of civilization so as to give us one huge assfucking after another?
So you're defending McCarthy's actions? I never said communism wasn't a threat, either. But it certainly wasn't. Communism is an ideal, probably an entirely unrealistic one at that, but, the threat was posed by a number of regimes claiming to be communist. Russia certainly was a threat.
Russia is still the biggest "threat" to the US
No, the greatest threat to the US comes from within. The same as most empires.
Then again, apparently you don't think the grievances of our Islamic enemies are real, so you must be quite an extreme hypocrite, or you're tragically misinformed about our actions around the globe.
We provide Israel with all its weapons, and we start wars and back brutal dictators in order to get oil. We have done so much more than our fair share of harm that to defend the US is actually quite an extreme position to take. We have received so much less than our fair share of violence in return. So, I think we can expect it to continue for quite a while, while we still perpetrate horrible crimes in other countries.
I'm not calling them cowardly for killing themselves (I will however call them stupid for that, just as I would anyone who killed themselves just to kill other people, American or not), I am calling them cowardly for targeting easy civilian targets rather than the military and government they claim to be against.
Well, SUPPOSEDLY, we are a democracy, and are responsible for the actions of our government.
Bah, that's a cop-out. Israeli still occupies a lot of land, and we've been meddling in the Middle East for decades.
And, regarding Iraq, there was far less sectarian violence before we invaded, so yes, we certainly are partly responsible. We have indeed likely precipated a civil war in Iraq.
Killing each other over slight interpretations of how to worship the same imaginary friend (god) is not rational behavior.
Well I certainly agree with that, but that's not really the cause of our current problems.
You are a despicable hypocrite. Their grievances are real, stop whitewashing them. I do not enjoy the threat posed by terrorism either, but I do condemn our own actions.
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Nice ad hominem examples there. It doesn't really have the same "impact" without the emotionally charged subject matter. Try again, without being such a knucklehead.
I'm sorry. You only said it was stupid, which it certainly was. I was conflating your post and another in my mind when replying. So take that post, sans the inflammatory "fuck you" and "asshole" bits :)
No, really. Don't be such an asshole. When she learned she was being sued by the RIAA, she was probably pretty desperate. $3,500 is a lot more than your average american has in the bank. I make very good money myself, and $3,500 would cripple me financially for at least a year.
It was a bad move for sure, but she probably couldn't afford to pay $3,500. Now they're possibly going to RUIN HER LIFE unless they are "lenient."
If they really charge some poor woman $150,000 USD for down/uploading 200 songs... I'm going to snap, and murder some people.
Ok. So maybe not. I have too much to live for. But, with the level of injustice rising so high, I can see someone with less to lose to do something like that. Easily.
I mean... what we're talking about is potentially ruining someone's life.
Traditional economics doesn't come into play when corrupt organizations worm their way into a position that gives them a right to practically print money.
Spoken like a true ignorant American who doesn't know shit about the rest of the world, or, indeed, about the politics of the United States itself.
The entire planet opposed us for a reason, or rather, many reasons. Even the countries that "supported" us, did so against the wishes of the majority of their respective populations, and only to win our favor.
Just look at the disaster we've created in Iraq. All we've done is destroy infrastructure, further damaging the quality of life of Iraqis, and even worse, removed the keystone preventing civil war -- yes, Saddam Hussein and his government, our former ally. Oh... and built an oil pipeline...
Why is the parent flaimbait? It is the most insightful comment in this whole ridiculous thread.
But F@H is, MAYBE $300, over the course of a whole year. Tiny slices added to your power bill. That's much easier to deal with than a lump sum of a $300 donation at one time.
Oh my God man, poor form! Very poorly played! Everyone knows, don't criticize Apple on Slashbot!
This comment is not off-topic, it is FREAKIN' HILARIOUS!
Please mod parent, +1 Funny
Apple's motivation is far more likely that they see more benefit to paying this extortion and being, well, along with Creative of course, the only ones allowed to use a hierarchical interface for selecting music...
Sheesh, talk about ridiculous...
Oh really? I think a lot of manufacturers today would take serious issue with that statement.
I wasn't talking to you. But all the same, you're just as ignorant. "Standing up for yourself" can get you no less than permanently injured, or even killed, with a serious bully problem.
I can't believe all you fucking people who think you were "bullied," and spout bullshit at us folks who really had problems. You think I didn't learn to stand up for myself? A lot of good that does when a 300lb steroid raging punk attacks you at random, or a guy with a neverending grudge from a football accident, who is quite possibly a sociopath, attacks you at random, even at gunpoint, and has parents with connections, and never, ever, has to account for his actions.
People who are sane enough to back down when someone stands up for himself are not real bullies. You've never faced real bullies.
I did learn to stand up for myself, and it serves me in my everyday life. But not everything in life can be controlled. You're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.
There's a big difference between "kick the shit out of the bully" and "don't be a victim". One is an aggressive act, another is a demand for respect. They do not equate.
It is entirely obvious to me now that you nor your children have ever faced serious bullying in your lives. A "demand for respect" is not a defense against any form of serious bullying.
You should get off your high horse, you ignorant man.
It sounds insensitive to tell a child that being bullied is partly their fault, but it's not. What's insensitive is telling them that it's NOT their fault at all, and letting them continue falling into the same bully traps.
Perhaps 'fault' is not quite the right word to use; it is emotionally charged. But I would say that, often, there are steps the victim could have taken to defuse the situation and prevent the bullying from taking place.
Just like rape victims, right? Or victims of car-jackings? Or nerds at Denny's who are beaten within' inches of their lives by football players...?
Yeah, it's definately those stupid victims that are the problem. It has nothing to do with this poisonous culture we have created.
I will never understand how Just Making Shit Up helps people deal with their uncertainties about life, the universe, and everything. To my eyes it appears that it simply causes rifts between people who can't agree on which Made Up Shit to believe in.
And pray tell us all just what Truth any religion has ever stumbled upon while blindly fumbling around in the dark, feeling around for the anal cavity of civilization so as to give us one huge assfucking after another?
Sounds to me like you're just scared of really trying to use something different than that which you are already comfortable with.
Oh, yes, evil socialists... Like those durn Canuckistanis up north, or all that Euro-trash across the pond.
Wake the fuck up you dolt. Socialism isn't the greatest evil in the world, and neither is capitalism the saviour of mankind.
So you're defending McCarthy's actions? I never said communism wasn't a threat, either. But it certainly wasn't. Communism is an ideal, probably an entirely unrealistic one at that, but, the threat was posed by a number of regimes claiming to be communist. Russia certainly was a threat.
Russia is still the biggest "threat" to the US
No, the greatest threat to the US comes from within. The same as most empires.
Then again, apparently you don't think the grievances of our Islamic enemies are real, so you must be quite an extreme hypocrite, or you're tragically misinformed about our actions around the globe.
Israel still occupies a portion of Lebanon, and still has severl hundred, possibly thousands, of Lebonese prisoners. You ignorant douchebag.
We provide Israel with all its weapons, and we start wars and back brutal dictators in order to get oil. We have done so much more than our fair share of harm that to defend the US is actually quite an extreme position to take. We have received so much less than our fair share of violence in return. So, I think we can expect it to continue for quite a while, while we still perpetrate horrible crimes in other countries.
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Ryan
I'm not calling them cowardly for killing themselves (I will however call them stupid for that, just as I would anyone who killed themselves just to kill other people, American or not), I am calling them cowardly for targeting easy civilian targets rather than the military and government they claim to be against.
Well, SUPPOSEDLY, we are a democracy, and are responsible for the actions of our government.
Bah, that's a cop-out. Israeli still occupies a lot of land, and we've been meddling in the Middle East for decades.
And, regarding Iraq, there was far less sectarian violence before we invaded, so yes, we certainly are partly responsible. We have indeed likely precipated a civil war in Iraq.
Killing each other over slight interpretations of how to worship the same imaginary friend (god) is not rational behavior.
Well I certainly agree with that, but that's not really the cause of our current problems.
You are a despicable hypocrite. Their grievances are real, stop whitewashing them. I do not enjoy the threat posed by terrorism either, but I do condemn our own actions.