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Scientist Infects Self With Computer Virus

superapecommando writes "A British scientist claims to have become the first human to be infected by a computer virus, in an experiment he says has important implications for the future of implantable technology. Dr Mark Gasson from the University of Reading infected a computer chip with the virus, then implanted it in his hand and transmitted the virus to a PC to prove that malware can move between human and computer."

393 comments

  1. stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    just plain stupid

    1. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is quite scary actually. This proves many things.

      1. Flesh is not a valid software firewall. We need upgrades.
      2. The human body can't fight off computer viruses with our immune system.
      3. His body didn't alert him of the virus. No fever or any symptom.

      I, for one, am quite scared of these recent events. How can you discount him so easily? If I get a pace maker and someone is able to root it - how will I know?

    2. Re:stupid by bondsbw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So he takes a computer that can accept new software, inserts it in his hand, and puts new software on it. How novel.

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    3. Re:stupid by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      I did see this wonderful piece of "news" being submitted to Slashdot about ten times in three hours.

      I did feel better seing it wasn't finally accepted.

      Now here we are, commenting on the amazing breakthrough it means for the human race.

    4. Re:stupid by sourcerror · · Score: 0, Redundant

      And we knew all this, without him doing the experiment.

    5. Re:stupid by GAB_cyclist · · Score: 1

      True, it is important to know how the communication between the chip and the PC was made. I'm guessing here, but I think my dad's pacemaker isn't that easily accessable... If it is, or in the future will be, the communication port should -logically- be protected. But for now, I think my dad should fear EMFs more.

    6. Re:stupid by sheepofblue · · Score: 1

      Good call the are coworkers

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/26/captain_cyborg_cyberfud/

      Of course co-patients might be more accurate as the place seems like a loony bin.

    7. Re:stupid by Chatterton · · Score: 1

      If I get a pace maker and someone is able to root it - how will I know?

      Easy answer: You probably will be dead or receive a threat letter :)

    8. Re:stupid by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agree. Transmitting from a chip to PC or vice-versa, is no big deal. The fact he put it inside his body doesn't alter that ability.

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    9. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let's just look on the bright side. He could have infected a small flash drive, taped it to has schlong, went to the computer, infected it, and claimed to have found the first sexually transmitted computer virus.

    10. Re:stupid by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      This has some serious implications...

      "Mom, I know I said I'd try and call more often, but if you keep
      bugging me at work I'm going to have to downgrade your firmware..."

      Let's see how feisty she is with her pulse reduced by 35%!

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    11. Re:stupid by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should have just stuck a USB stick up his ass.

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    12. Re:stupid by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly..

      Look I cut open a cat and inserted a wifi router... CATS CAN CONNECT TO WIFI!!!!

      Can I be a scientist? It seems I meet the qualifications.

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    13. Re:stupid by homey+of+my+owney · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I applaud your use of the cat, I think we need to ask the larger question: Was this guy institutionalized?

    14. Re:stupid by metacell · · Score: 1

      Aren't point 1, 2 and 3 pretty obvious? I just don't see the point of performing this experiment, except as a way to satisfy one's gadget fetish.

    15. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News group. Subscribe me!.

      Now what would be impressive, is if you can get several hundred cats, battery power those suckers, maybe with the tech from the article a few days ago about using people as batteries, and have an untraceable mobile kitty network. As the cats locations will always be moving, it would be perfect for keeping the black helocopters busy.. wait theres a knock on my do.....

    16. Re:stupid by couchslug · · Score: 1

      It's just performance art.

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    17. Re:stupid by D'Sphitz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Prior art, I do this all the time.

    18. Re:stupid by Cheviot · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

    19. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i believe you are missing the point. Its not the viruses can move between humans and pcs freely. its more revealing a new threat as now they can hide the virus in their body. Opens up a new type of "mule" instead of drug mules now we have to worry bout virus mules. and if they can get viruses on a pc im sure it wouldnt be much harder to get them off. or with a little work transmit and recieve freely.and it wont be detected. Computer related crime will be harder to trace if the suspect appears to have no tools because they are in his body. ill admit this is starting to feel like an episode of ghost in the shell O.O
      and my cat gives wifi btw but i have to plug it into my dog modem . cuz cat wifi needs a modem to get the signal.

       

    20. Re:stupid by Barny · · Score: 4, Funny

      But did you follow scientific method?

      Clearly this gentleman is much more learned and qualified than you, so is infinitely more suitable to have large storage devices anally inserted.

      Now, where did I put my 30MB "full height" 5.25" drive...

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    21. Re:stupid by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

      Was this your fifth cat, or was it Cat 6?

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    22. Re:stupid by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I can't believe he wasn't already running antivirus software. My prince-albert USB drive running MSE has kept me virus free for years.

    23. Re:stupid by galaad2 · · Score: 1
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    24. Re:stupid by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Prior art, I do this all the time.

      If you do, make sure you attach a string to it, for easy retrieval when done. And refrain from doing it in your car, the brown stains are awfully difficult to get out of the back seat...

    25. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's the University of Reading. So, yes.
      This dude works directly under Captain Cyborg himself.

    26. Re:stupid by feldicus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ye gods, I've got one even scarier.

      Let's assume, for a moment, that we will one day see an implantable device that acts as a "mechanical kidney". What I'm imagining is something similar to my cousin's ileostomy (he has Crohn's Disease), in which one kidney is replaced with a filtering device that either dumps waste into an externally connected bag, or holds it in a surgically implanted reservoir until it can be emptied. Something that complicated would almost certainly need some level of control, and I'm sure there are a thousand and one things that could be analyzed in real time.

      "Mr. Pratt, this is Packmonger Insurance calling to inform you that your payment is officially past due. Per the terms of your plan's contract, we are reducing your blood filtration rate by 10%. This is enough of a decrease to cause low-risk symptoms of renal failure, without irreparably damaging your other major organs. Please consider your impending itching, joint aches, and/or increased urination an incentive to pay on time in the future. Thank you, and have a wonderful day."

    27. Re:stupid by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now, where did I put my 30MB "full height" 5.25" drive...

      You're "sitting" on it...

    28. Re:stupid by tattood · · Score: 1, Funny
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    29. Re:stupid by Krneki · · Score: 1

      If I get a pace maker and someone is able to root it - how will I know?

      You will randomly reboot.

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    30. Re:stupid by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Blue Face of Death.

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    31. Re:stupid by sorak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, at least he didn't put it on a USB drive and shove it up as anus. It would have been the exact same principal, but would have seemed less scientific.

    32. Re:stupid by pnewhook · · Score: 1

      No, there's no protection on the pacemaker interface, nor does there need to be. The pacemaker microcontroller cannot get infected with a virus.

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    33. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real men use MFM.

    34. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You'll figure it out when someone puts it on hummingbird mode.

    35. Re:stupid by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      Eh. I've always been an RLL man.

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    36. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3. His body didn't alert him of the virus. No fever or any symptom.

      That's because his anti-virus system only works on human virus. He needs to install another chip with computer anti-virus software such as McAfee or Norton AV.

    37. Re:stupid by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      your usb drive can run windows?

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    38. Re:stupid by mlush · · Score: 2, Informative

      True, it is important to know how the communication between the chip and the PC was made. I'm guessing here, but I think my dad's pacemaker isn't that easily accessable... If it is, or in the future will be, the communication port should -logically- be protected. But for now, I think my dad should fear EMFs more.

      Pacemakers have already been hacked granted its really unlikely your dad will be a target but that is getting into the terrain of security through obscurity

    39. Re:stupid by GarryFre · · Score: 1

      Yep, I totally agree. he just proved how stupid he is.

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    40. Re:stupid by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He caught a computer virus, as evidenced from the ability to infect another computer. However, he is far from the first. I sneezed on a keyboard, my friend used the keyboard, and later he sneezed on his keyboard. Using the scientist's criteria, that makes it a computer virus (can transmit from one computer to another). I was infected with my cold over two decades ago, and I doubt I was the first.

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    41. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      best xkcd ever!

    42. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He should have just stuck a USB stick up his ass.

      I agree.

    43. Re:stupid by aztektum · · Score: 1

      Hrm?

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    44. Re:stupid by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

      > the communication port should -logically- be protected

      Depending on where the port is, crossing his legs might take care of that

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    45. Re:stupid by gtall · · Score: 1

      Hi there, I see you are attempting to use your Microsoft Pee Flow Controller for the first time, would you like to:

      1. Register your Pee Flow Controller and receive special offers of other bodily function controllers?

      2. Keep a log of the use of your Pee Flow Controller to make sure others are not illegally using it when you aren't looking?

      3. Drink a beer now and test drive your new Pee Flow Controller?

      Yes?

    46. Re:stupid by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look I cut open a cat and inserted a wifi router... CATS CAN CONNECT TO WIFI!!!! Can I be a scientist? It seems I meet the qualifications.

      Hell, with that sort of ingenuity, you should be able to get tenure.

    47. Re:stupid by Kulfaangaren! · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hey! Didn't I see that movie ? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1053424/

    48. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's quality animal research!

    49. Re:stupid by systemeng · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't that be "catz r can connectz 2 WIFI"

    50. Re:stupid by sorak · · Score: 1

      It is quite scary actually. This proves many things.

      1. Flesh is not a valid software firewall. We need upgrades.
      2. The human body can't fight off computer viruses with our immune system.
      3. His body didn't alert him of the virus. No fever or any symptom.

      I, for one, am quite scared of these recent events. How can you discount him so easily? If I get a pace maker and someone is able to root it - how will I know?

      Just don't listen to any music put out by Sony and your pacemaker won't get rooted.

    51. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      either that, or they just used this as a way to create buzz.
      I believe it' s the buzz thing

    52. Re:stupid by feldicus · · Score: 1

      Odd. I must have missed that one.

    53. Re:stupid by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      But I have the patent and trademark on CATFI (wifi on a cat). In fact, I've Patented all technology related to cats through my "On a Cat" patented process, which automatically inserts any technology into "________ on a cat" process.

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    54. Re:stupid by siloko · · Score: 1

      It's the University of Reading.

      Ahh yes how very imaginative. Mine was called the University of Slacking Off Drinking Beer. I guess they get better marks at the University of Reading, sounds more useful anyway.

    55. Re:stupid by CycleMan · · Score: 1

      A university is one sort of a mental institution, so yes.

    56. Re:stupid by NFN_NLN · · Score: 1

      Prior art, I do this all the time.

      If you do, make sure you attach a string to it, for easy retrieval when done. And refrain from doing it in your car, the brown stains are awfully difficult to get out of the back seat...

      That's just plain ludicrous. How can you drive from the back seat?

    57. Re:stupid by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have a programable biomedical device, a Medtronics PrimeAdvanced Neurostimulator and it can be accessed remotely and "hacked" too.

      But here is the reality of accessing it or a programable pacemaker, you have to be within inches of the device to get a sync signal. For me, my neurostim is in my left chest, to get it to sync I have to get the PDA or PDA's lead within a half inch of my skin, a thick sweater will block it and make the sync turn into a trial and error shuffle trying to get it in the right spot. The sync is slow, maybe 5-15 seconds for something simple and 15-30 for a upload of new rules to it.

      This story is just another PR load, the Register has been dogging on another guy at the same school for over a decade about the BS he spews out. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/26/captain_cyborg_cyberfud/

      You didn't read the article you posted - "In publishing the findings, the researchers are not suggesting that heart patients face significant imminent risk from hackers. They say in a statement published on the research group's Web site, secure-medicine.org, that their findings should not deter patients from accepting these devices if deemed appropriate by a physician."

      "While all implanted devices must use wireless telemetry for programming -- typically in very close range (several inches to several feet) -- the risk of any deliberate, malicious, or unauthorized manipulation of a device is extremely low," Medtronic said. "In fact, to our knowledge there has not been a single reported incident of such an event in more than 30 years of device telemetry use, which includes millions of implants worldwide."

      Here the Medtronic guy is full of it, you can't get a sync at several feet

    58. Re:stupid by Jave1in · · Score: 1

      Lets save the excitement for when he gives his computer AIDS.

    59. Re:stupid by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      You can do more things in your car than just driving. One such thing is playing with your USB stick (or with a potato, or with whatever...). And these other activities are often done on the backseat where you have (slightly) more room than on the front seat.

    60. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, It isn't plain stupid. What if my grandmothers pacemaker got infected by a virus at a routine check, just to mention one example. This is defenately going to be an important aspect of IT-security in the future.

    61. Re:stupid by TheLink · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, you missed your payments, and the MPAA repossessed _their_ memory you rented from them.

      In the future won't be "a penny for your thoughts".

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    62. Re:stupid by AsmordeanX · · Score: 1

      Was this your fifth cat, or was it Cat 6?

      Did you properly terminate Cat 6 at the end?

    63. Re:stupid by tool462 · · Score: 1

      For the sake of the cat, I'm hoping you're only using it as a repeater. I'd hate to see how you ran the ethernet cable for the WAN link...

    64. Re:stupid by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      No, my urethra does. Don't ask.

    65. Re:stupid by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      It's the University of Reading.

      He had to go to a university to learn how to read? Not much of a scientist.

      (To you Brits: yes, I know it's pronounced "Redding." But where's the joke in that?)

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    66. Re:stupid by vlueboy · · Score: 1

      If I get a pace maker and someone is able to root it - how will I know?

      Decreasing pulse means you're already a botnet zombie DOS'ing a host.
      Compare to "missing" time commonly attributed to alien abduction in the USA. Real cause? rooted "metal plate" implants.
      Solution: Tinfoil! Lot's of tinfoil.

    67. Re:stupid by kheldan · · Score: 1

      I usually wouldn't agree with an AC, but since it's the first thing that came to mind when I read this (using the term very loosely here) story, I'd be disingenuous if I didn't agree.

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    68. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is a fucking dalek behind him and the BBC interviewer seems to actually be taking him seriously.
      A) It's not fucking real and B) even in the series it's not a fucking robot.

      I'm sorry to see the BBC sliding into the land of the ludicrous, I used to have such respect for them.

    69. Re:stupid by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      It's an obvious ripoff of Repo! The Genetic Opera, which is a film adaptation of the successful play by the same name. Repo Men is based on the book Repossession Mamba, which was obviously taken from the play - it was not conceived until well after the play had been released, and the core of the plot and story elements are identical. It's basically just short of plagiarism. I'm also not sure how many books and screenplays are written in tandem, as this one was.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo!_The_Genetic_Opera

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    70. Re:stupid by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      Was this your fifth cat, or was it Cat 6?

      Cat 5. After the operation, it was Cat 5 enhanced.

    71. Re:stupid by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      In the future won't be "a penny for your thoughts".

      What a great tag line for an evil character! "Penny for your thoughts?" *slice*

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    72. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I be a scientist?

      Don't you mean "Can I haz science?"

    73. Re:stupid by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      This is about as useful as shoving a cell phone up his ass and claiming he now has 3g.

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    74. Re:stupid by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      But I have the patent and trademark on CATFI (wifi on a cat). In fact, I've Patented all technology related to cats through my "On a Cat" patented process, which automatically inserts any technology into "________ on a cat" process.

      How many recursions deep did you get before you realized that you'd patented On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat On a Cat?

      (Currently taking bets on who's going to come after you first for 1-Click-On-a-Cat: Amazon or PETA.)

    75. Re:stupid by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      So, if you connect them to one another, you're actually talking about a Beowulf Cluster of cats? Nice, didn't take us to long to get there. Go Slashdot!

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    76. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if anyone is working on Human 2.0.

    77. Re:stupid by Syberz · · Score: 1

      So if I had put a virus on the 3.5 floppy disk that I fit into my mouth 15 years ago on a dare, I could have been on TV like this dude? Damn...

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    78. Re:stupid by chthon · · Score: 1

      Yes, this surely deserves a patent!

    79. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flesh drive? Ugh. No thanks.

    80. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's obviously cat 5 enhanced.

    81. Re:stupid by TheLink · · Score: 1

      There was some sort of "repo" thingy in this old sci-fi story:

      http://www.sciencefictionmuseum.com/stories/reviews/snop008.html

      e.g.

      She says, "Tom, it's the Permitted Murder section of the Suicide Act. They're going to invoke it...I'm talking about the section of the Suicide Act that makes host-taking legal. Rex has guaranteed the survival of your mind after death, and you've accepted it. Now they can legally take your body for any purpose they desire. They own it. They can kill your body, Tom."

      But other than that I guess it's different :).

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    82. Re:stupid by xevioso · · Score: 2, Funny

      You and everyone in this particular thread should be assassinated for particularly horrid puns.

    83. Re:stupid by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Dont know. I haven't opened the box yet.

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    84. Re:stupid by Braintrust · · Score: 1

      Now, where did I put my 30MB "full height" 5.25" drive...

      You're "sitting" on it...

      Now you're thinking with portals.

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    85. Re:stupid by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      I am not a number! I am a free cat!

    86. Re:stupid by neo00 · · Score: 1

      It is quite scary actually. This proves many things.

      1. Flesh is not a valid software firewall. We need upgrades.
      2. The human body can't fight off computer viruses with our immune system.
      3. His body didn't alert him of the virus. No fever or any symptom.

      4. Stupidity has no limits.

    87. Re:stupid by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Would have been slightly better if he was shoving a Verizon phone instead of an AT&T.

    88. Re:stupid by WiglyWorm · · Score: 1

      This parent and all children (save perhaps this one) are full of so much win.

    89. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah the 1996 play couldn't POSSIBLY have ripped off concepts that were in use by a number of stories/tv shows/books/games from the mid to late 80's now couldn't it?

      I played Cyberpunk 2020 and Shadowrun games where organ/implant-tech repo was a theme, and think I recall organ-legging in one or more episodes of Max Headroom way back when as well. I'm sure I could turn out a dozen more examples if I wanted to spend a bit of time.

      STOP thinking that Repo! The Genetic Opera is original in any way, you just look stupid doing so. Its just another re-hash.

    90. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ye gods, I've got one even scarier.

      Let's assume, for a moment, that we will one day see an implantable device that acts as a "mechanical kidney". What I'm imagining is something similar to my cousin's ileostomy (he has Crohn's Disease), in which one kidney is replaced with a filtering device that either dumps waste into an externally connected bag, or holds it in a surgically implanted reservoir until it can be emptied. Something that complicated would almost certainly need some level of control, and I'm sure there are a thousand and one things that could be analyzed in real time.

      "Mr. Pratt, this is Packmonger Insurance calling to inform you that your payment is officially past due. Per the terms of your plan's contract, we are reducing your blood filtration rate by 10%. This is enough of a decrease to cause low-risk symptoms of renal failure, without irreparably damaging your other major organs. Please consider your impending itching, joint aches, and/or increased urination an incentive to pay on time in the future. Thank you, and have a wonderful day."

      Haven't heard of a movie called Repo men? Jude law and Forrest Whitaker.

    91. Re:stupid by Sandbags · · Score: 1

      Great, now I might actually be able to tell my Dad he really is allergic to technology :)

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    92. Re:stupid by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      Surely similar techniques to those used to hack wifi/bluetooth devices from miles away (i.e. really nice antennas) would also work here?

    93. Re:stupid by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      No because it has to go through skin and as we all know the skin is good at blocking radio waves, which is why RFID have to be implanted right under the skin in cats, dogs and humans.

      But say you can amplify the signal that much.

      A cheap microwave will leak enough that I can feel it from my wires, but thats a kilowatt and more than 2-3 meters away and I can't feel it. Generator room of the Hoover Dam also made me tingle

      The device is small and while the leads and wires will pick up some EM (I know I can feel when a cheap microwave is on, but thats from the nerves not the interface to access the device), so someone with a nice antenna is going to be able to track me and keep this pointed right at where the device is in my body for the time it takes to sync and transfer? 5-30 seconds, and if I turn there goes the line of sight to see the device.

      This is a device a couple square inches in area, usually surrounded by pretty radio opaque material, my application is unusual with it being in my chest, most of the devices I have are installed in the ass or the thigh. Plant a Bluetooth device in your ass and see how well your headset syncs to it

      This is more like hacking RFID than bluetooth/wifi

    94. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then the next logical step is a beowulf cluster of catgirls.

    95. Re:stupid by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      It immediately reminded me of the "fusion" technology from Invader Zim:

      http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/entertainment/watch/v18528014rFw5AbSe

      (skip to around 6:45)

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    96. Re:stupid by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      Then investigate the reports of long-range theft of RFID-data from passports etc. Skin is a good insulator, but the power of your device makes up for that (both it and RFID are designed to be read at the same range).

      Of course, if you turned around, so that nearly your entire body was between the device and the hacker, it probably wouldn't be possible.

    97. Re:stupid by paulzeye · · Score: 1

      but now I can't tell if the wifi router has died unless I open the cat

    98. Re:stupid by feldicus · · Score: 1

      Nope. News to me. Looks pretty awful, really.

    99. Re:stupid by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      I said it's "like" RFID, not that it uses RFID. To hack the biomedical device from the 2008 article, they knew how the radio worked in the device and they crafted an antenna and radio transmitter in software specific to the device. The device was not in a human or animal, it was sitting out on a bench to test, so we don't know what the implanting in the human body would do to the range.

    100. Re:stupid by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you didn't read what I said at all. I never said it was RFID. I wasn't referring to the 2008 article.

      What I did say, is that biomedical devices are designed to communicate at the same range as RFID, despite the skin in the way. Presumably that means after the effect of the skin is taken into account, the signal level is similar. That means that the range when using a decent antenna should be similar, so it should be possible to communicate with a biomedical device from a significant distance.

    101. Re:stupid by izomiac · · Score: 2

      Why in the world would anyone do that? An insurance company isn't responsible for your medical care, your doctor is. They exert indirect control, but their motive is to reduce costs. A kidney running at 90% of the minimum GFR will cause other medical problems which costs them money (e.g. increasing the half-lives of all drugs the patient is on, leading to overdoses). It also doesn't reduce immediate costs in running the kidney. And a sick person isn't going to be able to work and pay premiums. There is absolutely no benefit to doing something like that.

      Furthermore, that would be assault, which is illegal. It's also altering medical treatment against a doctor's orders, which is also illegal (IIRC there are certain legal exceptions, but not too many). I can't imagine any pharmaceutical making a medical implant with that feature, nor any doctor implanting such a flawed device. Plus elderly congressmen are quite self-serving when it comes to health care, so I cannot see them permitting that kind of thing. And while businesses are amoral, and thus occasionally act in a way we'd call "evil" if they were sentient, they are composed of people, which do have some ethics. Unless, of course, you get your health insurance through the mafia, but I think one would call that "natural selection".

    102. Re:stupid by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Well since the RFID can read up to 300 feet by design and a Medtronics device (thats what I'm using for example 'cause it's what I have and what was accessed in the 2008 paper) has a read range of up to six inches, they aren't designed for the same range.

      http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq

      "What is the read range for a typical RFID tag?
      There really is no such thing as a "typical" RFID tag, and the read range of passive tags depends on many factors: the frequency of operation, the power of the reader, interference from other RF devices and so on. In general, low-frequency tags are read from a foot (0.33 meter) or less. High-frequency tags are read from about three feet (1 meter) and UHF tags are read from 10 to 20 feet. Where longer ranges are needed, such as for tracking railway cars, active tags use batteries to boost read ranges to 300 feet (100 meters) or more."

      Also, it requires a signal close, looking around I find "long range RFID skimmers" to be 35 cm.

    103. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its like...a new wave of aids that will soon pop out. so if he has a virus and he has sex with his wife...does his wife (if any) get a trojan?

    104. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Contrary to popular belief, you can be a scientist by simply applying the scientific method. You may not be a good scientist without relevant education and experience but you're still a scientist especially in today's environment. Of course there are people that claim to be a scientist without applying the scientific method simply because they are educated. Implanting a chip in your arm and transmitting data is not a scientific activity but rather an engineering one.

    105. Re:stupid by dwye · · Score: 1

      > No, you missed your payments, and the MPAA repossessed _their_ memory you rented from them.

      Lucky bastard! Now if they can just do that for my memory of Jacob's Ladder...

    106. Re:stupid by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      I'm not referring to the battery-backed RFID that's readable from 300 feet, I'm referring to the passive low-frequency RFID that's used in passports (which I already mentioned before). Those RFID tags were designed to be read at a range of 4 inches (actually shorter than your device), but it has been clearly demonstrated that they can actually be read from more than 100 times that distance (35 feet, not 35 cm), as long as a half-decent antenna is used.

      If the same holds true for your implant, then it could be reprogrammed from at least 50 feet away. And don't assume that the fact it takes a long time to program would help, it would probably only take a much shorter transmission to trash its programming.

      Not that it's very likely, someone would have to specifically know what implant a person had, and would have to be specifically target them, unlike RFID passport skimming, where everyone in the area would be a target.

    107. Re:stupid by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      OK. The handshake takes 5 seconds for it to pair with another device, so I don't think you're going to be able to "trash" it in under 5 seconds.

    108. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wanted to post the same comment - "Coming next on slashdot - man with USB flash stick in his arse"

    109. Re:stupid by whterbt · · Score: 1

      He should have just stuck a USB stick up his ass.

      I was just thinking he could copy Windows on to a USB drive and shove it up his ass, and then claim he runs Windows. Would be less painful than an actual install, too.

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    110. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blue Balls of Death.

    111. Re:stupid by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      Assuming there's no vulnerability in the handshake process. And at longer distances, even with a strong antenna, I bet communication with it would be unreliable at best. It's impractical.

      But possible.

      I wonder if we'll ever see it used as a technique for assassinating someone in power? Against someone like that, I can see it being more practical. It could even be done remotely, so that the killer isn't even at the scene of the crime.

      That's a scary thought.

    112. Re:stupid by dissy · · Score: 1

      Surely similar techniques to those used to hack wifi/bluetooth devices from miles away (i.e. really nice antennas) would also work here?

      You can transmit to the device from far away simply by using the proper antenna and cranking up the power output to it.

      'Hearing' the reply from the device you CAN'T replace the antenna or power supply on however, there is only so much one can do and only over a very small range compared to the transmit area.
      If the pacemaker only transmits 0.5" away at 1mw then from a foot away or more (aka miles) there is nothing you can do at all to receive more of the signal that does not exist.

      With that said, there SHOULD be some form of checksum/re-transmit method or verification per packet or per command (Assuming lack of authentication, which is a good assumption for now)

      Without getting the ACK signal back from the device, you can't be sure you are communicating.
      With the checksum/verification response, this would prevent the device from accepting a command until the proper response was given to the device by your transmitter. This response should be based off something that changes and was sent from the pacemaker. So then not hearing that means you can't send a meaningful reply.

      This method is used not really for security, but more to assure the proper command was sent, and received in full correctly, before processing it.

      A blast of static (IE random RF) would after enough time accidentally match the syntax of a valid command at some point, and you wouldn't want that command actually committed without being sure it was intended.

    113. Re:stupid by Kilrah_il · · Score: 1

      Ok, where do I sign up of this?

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    114. Re:stupid by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      If it happened, I'd bet it'd be the Russians who tried, they have a history of crazy obscure assassination attempts.

      If I was a reform minded Georgian, Ukrainian or west-looking Baltic leader, I'd want a firewall on my biomedical device.

    115. Re:stupid by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Agree. Transmitting from a chip to PC or vice-versa, is no big deal. The fact he put it inside his body doesn't alter that ability.

      Yes and no.

      I agree that this is chip to chip transmission.

      But just like GPS trackers, couldn't this be placed secretly beneath your skin, while you sleep?

    116. Re:stupid by RedWizzard · · Score: 1

      Agree. Transmitting from a chip to PC or vice-versa, is no big deal. The fact he put it inside his body doesn't alter that ability.

      Unfortunately superapecommando chose a very poorly written version of the story to submit and for some reason samzenpus chose that one to post. If you read a more informative version, like this one, or this one, you'd know that what the guy is claiming to have done is to have infected an implanted RFID device with a virus and had the virus infect his PC when it accessed the device. That's actually quite concerning.

    117. Re:stupid by Buzzo · · Score: 0

      great, hate to see where the antenna sticks out.

    118. Re:stupid by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      You and everyone in this particular thread should be assassinated for particularly horrid puns.

      Please, you couldn't terminate us by yourself. You'd need a friend to help co-ax us.

      Murdering over puns; what a twisted pair you'd be!

    119. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. The first metaphor that came to my mind as well.

    120. Re:stupid by shiftless · · Score: 1

      Not that it's very likely, someone would have to specifically know what implant a person had, and would have to be specifically target them, unlike RFID passport skimming, where everyone in the area would be a target.

      It basically just becomes a damn near untraceable way to assassinate someone, if in researching the victim the assassin discovers he has such an implant.

    121. Re:stupid by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Nice exchange guys ;-)

      IMHO, if it is theoretically possible to hack something. It will probably eventually get hacked without regards for the constraints for achieving the hack if the profit is considerable enough.

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    122. Re:stupid by leety · · Score: 1

      "Excuse me sir, but this USB drive is covered in excrement"

      "Oh! Sorry, that's the wrong one. I gave you the USB-bootable copy of XP I carry around on my keychain. Let me just grab the Linux distro that I stashed up my ass!"

    123. Re:stupid by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Was this your fifth cat, or was it Cat 6?

      Well the fifth cat got run over but we didnt want to disappoint the kids so we got an identical cat. Then that one ran away. Did the same thing and that one drowned. the next cat ran away to join the second cat, now we are effectively on the fifth version of the fifth cat, We call him cat 5e.

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    124. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Oh honey, please stop calling me at work. I had to use my desk phone. My cellphone is on vibrate and with this mini-skirt, I only had one place to put my cell phone. It's exciting, but my cubemates might catch on. Honey, why do you I care if my Blackberry is water-proof or not? ZAP! - Blonde Scientist poof

    125. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was his fifth cat. Its name was Eduardo.

      Or Cat5e for short.

    126. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same cat, but only 3 lives left.

    127. Re:stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Talk about a 'hand waving' demonstration!

    128. Re:stupid by Lundse · · Score: 1

      Exactly..

      Look I cut open a cat and inserted a wifi router... CATS CAN CONNECT TO WIFI!!!!

      Sorry, but... Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those!

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    129. Re:stupid by sesshomaru · · Score: 1

      In AD 2101
      War was beginning
      Captain: What happen?
      Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb
      Operator: We get signal
      Captain: What!
      Operator: Main screen turn on.
      Captain: It's you!!
      CATS: How are you gentlemen!!
      CATS: All your base are belong to us.
      CATS: You are on the way to destruction.
      Captain: What you say?
      CATS: You have no chance to survive make your time
      CATS: HA HA HA HA....

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    130. Re:stupid by Antidamage · · Score: 1

      Maybe the plot should be repoed.

      Jude Law could start in THAT, too. It'd be like Gattaca but different which is just like all his other movies. The man knows how to milk a theme.

  2. epic fail by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this sounds like that cyborg man retard from a few years ago.

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    1. Re:epic fail by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Informative

      Do you mean Kevin Warwick? Funnily enough he's also from the University of Reading.

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    2. Re:epic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funnily enough it is Garsson's team that developed the chip that went into "cyborg man".

    3. Re:epic fail by Djoulihen · · Score: 1

      Well, they definetely both leave the same impression of scientists trying to obtain a large media coverage (and funding ?) with strange experiments involving machines and humans. The problem is there is really nothing interesting coming out of these experiments apart from demonstrating the obvious.

    4. Re:epic fail by metacell · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh my god! He's got the virus too!

    5. Re:epic fail by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, I thought Captain Cyborg was from the University of Writing, or possible Aithmetic.

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    6. Re:epic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      For crying out loud, what is it about the University of Reading - I'm a Reading local, did maths at uni and got thoroughly annoyed by http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/British_computer_scientist's_new_%22nullity%22_idea_provokes_reaction_from_mathematicians and in fact got quoted

    7. Re:epic fail by PeterBrett · · Score: 1

      Do you mean Kevin Warwick? Funnily enough he's also from the University of Reading.

      Indeed, also from the Cybernetics Department! Several years ago I worked there for a couple of weeks on a "work experience" placement -- seems to me like the research has gone a bit downhill since the days when Kevin Warwick had a chip implanted in his wrist's median nerve and then used it to control a robot hand...

    8. Re:epic fail by LordSnooty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As soon as I read the summary I thought of Warwick. Puffed-up PR posing as legitimate research. Classic Kevin Warwick. The Register used to have a 'thing' about him, a search there would reveal many similar antics in the past, including the notorious bionic chip.

    9. Re:epic fail by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I recall reading an article by an actual academic who described Warwick and Reading as an "embarrassing distraction". Mind you, I can't remember his name, but everybody knows about Captain Cyborg, so I guess Warwick has achieving his primary goal: self promotion.

      I do object to calling anyone associated with Warwick a "scientist" though. The level of their (published) research isn't even up to Mythbusters standards. Playing around with £10 of gubbins from Maplin then injecting it under your skin does not make you a cyborg, just a cretin.

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    10. Re:epic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to that link Kevin Warwick worked closely with the subject of this article Dr. Mark Gasson on a "complex neural interface" back in 2002. Wow, they've made quite the progress.....

    11. Re:epic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was Mark Gasson's doctoral advisor, so this is not very surprising.

    12. Re:epic fail by RDW · · Score: 1

      Kevin Warwick was Mark Gasson's PhD supervisor and remains a close collaborator:

      http://www.reading.ac.uk/sse/about/staff/publications/m-n-gasson-publications.aspx

    13. Re:epic fail by Altima(BoB) · · Score: 1

      As someone with an artificial aortic valve and artificial aorta, that is, as an actual cyborg, this Warwick guy is an embarrassment to cyborgs too.

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  3. stupid by afitz2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK that's pretty stupid.

  4. what a fucking retard by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

    quick, offer his a job as a slashdot janitor!

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  5. No, really by JamesP · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What a fscking moron

    Or a show-off.

    Or better, a fscking show-off moron

    I couldn't think of anything more irrelevant, like, REALLY

    I mean, this is Uri Geller type of BS

    The mind boggles.

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    1. Re:No, really by dunezone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Lets just hope Michael Bay doesn't read this story.

    2. Re:No, really by Kozz · · Score: 1

      I was thinking he could have done just as well with a USB Drive up his bum.

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    3. Re:No, really by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > this is Uri Geller type of BS

      No it isn't. This isn't even fake. It's just inane.

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    4. Re:No, really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Uri Geller lives in Reading too...

      I live near Reading but haven't yet done anything as witless with RFID chips or spoons. Yet.

    5. Re:No, really by tisepti · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't mind some well placed explosions here though.

    6. Re:No, really by PSandusky · · Score: 1

      Could indeed be worse, then. This could've been a subplot about chips being injected into John Turturro's buttcheek, ostensibly by the part of the Constructicons' gestalt that formed Devastator's testicles.

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  6. Implications... by dward90 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The implications of this being that.....what? When The Evil Government (tm) infuses us all with tracking chips, we open up ourselves to being hacked?

    I can see it now....

    Can new RFID technology lead to making you or your families ZOMBIES of the federal government? TONIGHT on Glenn Beck!

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    1. Re:Implications... by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The Feds want you a Zombie during your productive life ... lots of TV, sport, 2 party voting, FOX or MSNBC and patriotism. The cost problems start when your older and on the pension.
      Cardiologist has a portable device to report back on the state of a pacemaker like device.
      Scans over skin, gets device to report back data.
      Portable device gets a "net update" - pretty graphs and a new portable e record interface.
      Families find out grandparents over a set age under federal government care get a little extra code pushed onto the pacemaker during the next scan.
      TONIGHT on Glenn Beck - Complete Lives System injects do not resuscitate code into your loved ones ...

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  7. How is this human to computer? by rotide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Infect chip.
    Implant chip.
    Get chip to infect computer.

    How was it ever contracted, let alone transmitted by the human? You could wear the chip as a necklace, tie it to a paper airplane, or just throw it and get the same results.

    1. Re:How is this human to computer? by jo42 · · Score: 1

      "Scientist" is retard. Loosing his funding would be the best thing that could happen to him.

    2. Re:How is this human to computer? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Scientist" is retard. Loosing his funding would be the best thing that could happen to him.

      One would think if his funding were loosed, he'd be quite happy.

    3. Re:How is this human to computer? by Bozdune · · Score: 1

      Yes, but he's running a fever now. Explain THAT.

    4. Re:How is this human to computer? by farnsaw · · Score: 1

      There is a perfect analogy in nature to this, it is called an asymptomatic carrier. Typhoid Mary is the classic case of this. The carrier is infected with a disease but are not themselves affected by it but they can pass it on to others. As to the "cross platform" nature of this example, A number of animal species can act as a vector of human disease. That said, this is a completely contrived example to show it is possible. Call it a Proof of Concept. I can see it being much more likely to happen in reverse, i.e. someone's implant gets infected by a computer virus. Therea are many people walking around today with computers implanted in their bodies performing very specialized tasks, pacemakers being the most common today. The latest models of these are designed to be accessible via wireless technologies to allow doctors to monitor and update them without having to perform surgery. There is a great deal of concern in the industry that these devices could be hacked (maliciously or otherwise) thus causing death.

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    5. Re:How is this human to computer? by gilleain · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Scientist" is retard. Loosing his funding would be the best thing that could happen to him.

      One would think if his funding were loosed, he'd be quite happy.

      "Dear Research Councils, I am very happy to be acquainted with you, and as a humble scientist, wish to loose my funding to the cash sum of 7 HUNDRED THOUSAND dollars..." Sorry, not sure where I'm going with this.

    6. Re:How is this human to computer? by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      You could wear the chip as a necklace, tie it to a paper airplane, or just throw it and get the same results.

      Oh God! You mean fashion, airspace security, and sports could be affected by this vulnerability as well?!?

    7. Re:How is this human to computer? by EnsilZah · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tie it to a paper plane?
      Are you mad?
      That would mean the virus is airborne!

    8. Re:How is this human to computer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aids?

    9. Re:How is this human to computer? by rotide · · Score: 1

      Being a carrier for a disease means you're still actually infected. You're just asymptomatic and it never actually affects you in any negative way. But tests would show you have the disease.

      The only way for a human to actually be a carrier for a "computer" virus is through biometrics (that I can imagine right now), but those biometric scanners would have to be pretty severely flawed to allow that to happen. Say you could re-engineer your iris to exploit a buffer overflow vulnerability in a scanner or something similar through DNA scanning, etc. But without being subjected to a specific procedure to modify yourself, I'm not sure how you would ever "contract" it in the first place.

      I suppose DNA is the best example. If we get to the point where one day you can implant a chip that will re-engineer your DNA on the fly and that chip is updated wirelessly, to stop diseases, boost your immune system, etc, etc, and you could potentially reprogram it to cause it to encode your DNA in such a way that government scanners are now vulnerable to it. I suppose that could fit the spirit of "infecting a human" to "infect computers with virii".

      But simply implanting a chip into yourself for the purpose of passing a virus to a computer is an extremely specific attack and frankly, the implanting part is entirely unnecessary.

    10. Re:How is this human to computer? by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      blood-borne infection from implanting a non-sterilized object into is arm?

    11. Re:How is this human to computer? by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      There is a perfect analogy in nature to this, it is called an asymptomatic carrier. Typhoid Mary is the classic case of this. The carrier is infected with a disease but are not themselves affected by it but they can pass it on to others.

      nice try at defending the idiot, but...no. As you said, in those cases the carrier is infected. In this case, the carrier is only infected with severe stupidity; as others have mentioned, this is no different than sticking a usb stick that has a virus on it up your ass. The human isn't infected with a computer virus - call it a protocol mismatch, if it makes you happy.

    12. Re:How is this human to computer? by masmullin · · Score: 1

      that would prove that computer virus' can go airborn! this is worse than the aids!

    13. Re:How is this human to computer? by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      One would think if his funding were loosed, he'd be quite happy.

      However, if your grammar was tightened up, we would be too.

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    14. Re:How is this human to computer? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      However, if your grammar was tightened up, we would be too.

      I was going to make the obvious was/were correction there, but then I figured you did it on purpose. I assume you were trying to make the point that I should have used "was" -- but that's not correct, since my sentence was in the subjunctive mood.

      Or perhaps this is a big whoosh on my part? The brain has entered analytic mode, there's no turning back...

    15. Re:How is this human to computer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right! Correlation IS causation! You're a genius!

    16. Re:How is this human to computer? by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps this is a big whoosh on my part? The brain has entered analytic mode, there's no turning back...

      No. It was a double mistake on my part. I both forgot the subjunctive case AND quoted and responded to the wrong post when I meant to poke fun at the same person you did. (*sigh*)

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  8. Proves nothing by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All he showed was that a computer virus can be transmitted from an implanted computer to an external computer. The scientist did not infect himself with a computer virus, he infected a chip that he had implanted in himself. If it is news to you that a computer chip implanted in a person can be infected with a computer virus, then this is the wrong board for you.

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    1. Re:Proves nothing by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As Tyler Durden said, "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."

      -Peter

    2. Re:Proves nothing by Georules · · Score: 1

      Perhaps those confused (are there any?) could understand this better by the converse. This man would claim that if you have a cold, sneeze on a computer keyboard, and someone else gets a cold by using the keyboard that you have infected the computer with a human virus.

    3. Re:Proves nothing by nkh · · Score: 1

      a computer virus can be transmitted from an implanted computer to an external computer.

      He infected "something" external to a computer, like floppies (during the 70s and 80s), USB keys and CD-Roms (90s and now), and even other computers on the internet. But it's in his own skin, therefore it must be new and scary.

    4. Re:Proves nothing by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      Where is Funny modifier for a straightest face, deadliest pan?

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    5. Re:Proves nothing by cyp43r · · Score: 1

      I don't think anyone is seriously arguing that in that scenario you haven't got human-computer-human infection. You should get that computer virus scanned and go see a doctor right away.

    6. Re:Proves nothing by Painted · · Score: 1

      Funny, on reading this my first thought was that it was equivalent to placing a virus on a USB key drive and sticking it up your butt. We can all play this game! If you got one with a USB extension cable, and ran it out your fly, you could **GASP** even become infected while it was in you! The horror! Something must be done!

      Stupid "science" is still stupid.

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    7. Re:Proves nothing by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it's better to view this as two distinct discoveries:

      1) He showed that a computer virus can be transmitted from one computer to another.

      So, something even the most computer illiterate person has known for decades.

      2) He showed that having one of the computers inside a living organism doesn't grant it magic anti-virus powers and somehow prevent (1).

      Something only the remarkably and creatively crazy ever thought wouldn't be the case.

      I'm pretty impressed at the banality.

      Next up for the illustrious University of Reading: Butcher knives can chop your dick off, even if you're thinking about Marshmallow Peeps while swinging the blade!

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    8. Re:Proves nothing by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      Next up for the illustrious University of Reading: Butcher knives can chop your dick off, even if you're thinking about Marshmallow Peeps while swinging the blade!

      DAMNIT! I just started getting funding for this exact experiment! No point in it now, since I won't be the first. Back to the drawing board.

    9. Re:Proves nothing by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Feel free to conduct the same experiment while thinking about Pamela Anderson. I'm not greedy, we can both get papers out of this. :)

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    10. Re:Proves nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm afraid to stick feathers up my butt. Does that make me "chicken"?

  9. I infected a computer with a virus by MacroSlopp · · Score: 5, Funny

    If we're looking for firsts....
    I once had a cold and sneezed on my keyboard.
    Does that make me the first human to infect a computer???

    1. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by timmarhy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      thats nothing - imagine all the STD's keyboard's would have if you could transmit human to computer virus....

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    2. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Zedrick · · Score: 1

      Uhm. Do you really think you were the first person ever to sneeze on a keyboard?

    3. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by captainpanic · · Score: 1

      You probably were not the first to infect a computer by sneezing on a keyboard... but you may have destroyed the internet when you did that. ... why are you so sure?

    4. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None whatsoever?

    5. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you have to prove it by making someone else sick from your keyboard.

      You bastard!

    6. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      I once had a cold and sneezed on my keyboard.
      Does that make me the first human to infect a computer???

      No, because the computer didn't "catch" the virus.

      Now if there was a hamster living inside your computer, and that hamster caught your cold, then you could with equal veracity claim to have infected your computer with a cold.

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    7. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      No, there was that guy who once mistook what his PC tech meant when he said he should scan his 3.5" floppy for viruses.

      That didn't end well.

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    8. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends. Did yout keyboard "died" after that?

    9. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most keyboards are infected with muffin crumbs.

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    10. Re:I infected a computer with a virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, no. It seems there's prior art; unless you provide some more qualification, an informal analysis concludes The First Human To Infect A Computer is the other dude about 30 posts up said he did exactly the same more than two decades ago ;)

  10. What exactly was this meant to demonstrate? by Vekseid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or was the good doctor merely going after being 'first' at something?

    1. Re:What exactly was this meant to demonstrate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same thing I thought when I saw the Darlek in the background

    2. Re:What exactly was this meant to demonstrate? by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      It is meant to get him in the news to promote his latest book. It's a publicity stunt.

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    3. Re:What exactly was this meant to demonstrate? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      That the "outside world' interface between a life saving implanted long or short term digital medical device might need some thought other than proximity and open protocol.
      Pass your next gen RFID passport "stealer" on a bus, cafe ect and you may get zero meds all week or lots in one go as the passport hack was set to experimental and its power was boosted?

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    4. Re:What exactly was this meant to demonstrate? by fishexe · · Score: 1

      Or was the good doctor merely going after being 'first' at something?

      Yeah. And as we know, firsts are kinda like records.

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  11. Apples and Oranges by jshriver · · Score: 0

    I don't see the relevance. Maybe if the chip which is not standard now adays is infected with a virus that specifically causes problems. Say you have a chip that keeps your hearth rhythm normal, and the virus tells your "device" to make your heart beat 200x a minute. This would be troublesome, but not what this was meant to show. Though I think it is conceptual proof-of-concept. So when we do go down that route of future implants security measures need to be put in place. There was an article not so long ago where it was shown a person could send signals to a pacemaker to cause harm.

  12. Interesting but... by berlindx · · Score: 1

    It seems like he was just trying to make headlines.

  13. April 1st? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I almost thought this was a real story and I was about to say what a load of cr@p it was. Then I noticed it had the Idle tag.

    1. Re:April 1st? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck is cr@p?

  14. Not quite an infection yet by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're still far off from GITS's brain hacking. His biological functions remain entirely unaffected, as he is merely carrying the infected chip with him. Effectively, he might as well just be keeping a passcard with an infected smartchip in his wallet, the result would be the same.

    1. Re: Not quite an infection yet by Briareos · · Score: 1

      But then again a passcard is something external.

      Still, if he wants the viruses inside him so bad I'd go for shoving a USB drive full of viruses up his rectum - bonus points if he uses a 3 1/2" hard drive instead.

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    2. Re: Not quite an infection yet by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

      He wins the whole internet if he uses THIS instead of a floppy drive:

      http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/09/24/1gb-then-and-now/

  15. So he has... by Zantac69 · · Score: 1

    SPAM coming from his ass? Literally?

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    1. Re:So he has... by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      SPAM coming from his ass? Literally?

      Yuck,
      is that where they get it from?

    2. Re:So he has... by vlm · · Score: 1

      No, you get worms from fecal matter not spam. Although a remarkable amount of factoryfarmed "meat" contains fecal matter, its mostly from the bowels of the slaughtered animals as opposed to human, as far as I know.

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    3. Re:So he has... by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      Although a remarkable amount of factoryfarmed "meat" contains fecal matter

      So does the do-it-yourself butchered meat. Except, that you don't have government standards for that group to give you the oooh they have a minimum value that is greater than zero which means they WANT it in there, scare factor.

      It's as if there wasn't a high temperature process that helps us kill off the harmful microbes prior to consuming the food.

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    4. Re:So he has... by vlm · · Score: 1

      So does the do-it-yourself butchered meat.

      I think you're missing the motivational value. Theres a pretty big jump between "I don't want to eat crap" and "I merely have to not screw up enough to get fired". Well, maybe not so much where I work. But in general, I mean.

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    5. Re:So he has... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      SPAM coming from his ass? Literally?

      Unless this chip had a wifi device and he were to put his hand (the one with the chip in it) up his own butt... no.

  16. concept already well-proven by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is this different from transmitting a virus via floppy diskette, other than the fact that he carried it on the inside of his hand, and the read/write mechanism was RF instead of magnetic?

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    1. Re:concept already well-proven by cyp43r · · Score: 1

      It's as if somebody implanted a floppy disk into their bodies and then infected a computer.

    2. Re:concept already well-proven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ever try to surgically implant a floppy in your flesh? Hurts like hell, not to mention those things were always prone to CRC errors anyway...

      In related news, I am going to duct tape an SD card containing porn to my arm... Someone give me grant money...

    3. Re:concept already well-proven by fishexe · · Score: 1

      How is this different from transmitting a virus via floppy diskette, other than the fact that he carried it on the inside of his hand, and the read/write mechanism was RF instead of magnetic?

      Easy. This guy was the bigger idiot. That's the difference.

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  17. No by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    He only "proved" that a computer virus can move onto a writeable computer chip. We've only known that for how many decades now? Nice theater, though.

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    1. Re:No by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > File it under 'Fucking-Duh'

      Redundant. It's already on Idle.

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  18. I have an idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    If I stick a virus on a thumbdrive, stick THAT up my ass...

    Could I make headlines too?

    1. Re:I have an idea! by aicrules · · Score: 1

      Yes, and probably a spot on the Mauri Povich show. Please proceed with trials. You may need to start with a regular 3.5" HDD as a practice run though.

    2. Re:I have an idea! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      After customs swab it for explosives and drugs they will load it up.
      Major bummer for the IT department that day.

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  19. What? by Georules · · Score: 1

    I'll download a database of computer virii and store it on a usb thumbdrive. Eat it. Plug it back in after I find it again. It'd be about as useful as this study. Actually more useful, because we'd find out if a usb thumbdrive can survive stomach acids.

  20. Disappointed by Logarhythmic · · Score: 1

    And here I was, all excited for a story that sounds like it came straight out of Snow Crash. Nice try, dude.

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    1. Re:Disappointed by jch.pgh · · Score: 1

      Indeed. First thing I thought of - that guy must have read way too much Neal Stephenson.

  21. No by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 1

    "A British scientist claims to have become the first human to be infected by a computer virus, in an experiment he says has important implications for the future of implantable technology. Dr Mark Gasson from the University of Reading infected a computer chip which was then implanted in his hand with the virus and then transmitted it to a PC to prove that malware can move between human and computer."

    This is the first time a computer chip implanted in a human has passed a virus onto a PC.

    And did we really need a proof of concept of this? File it under 'Fucking-Duh'

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  22. The only Irony Appropriate(tm) result... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is for this researcher to be the first to contract the metavirus when it arrives...

    1. Re:The only Irony Appropriate(tm) result... by Karellen · · Score: 1

      Hey buddy, want to try some Snow Crash?

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    2. Re:The only Irony Appropriate(tm) result... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Sounds good to me. I'm too smug and linux-using to catch a virus...

  23. He didn't infect himself.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He infected the microchip that he embedded in his hand. The virus had no affect on his body in any way. The only difference between this and carrying malware on a flash drive is that he had the memory implanted on his body. If he "infects himself", it implies that the malware had some sort of affect on his body/physiology.

  24. What an idiot by topham · · Score: 1

    What a fucking idiot. Seriously.

    Now, if, and I mean -if- he had a chip that was actually wired to his nerves and he got that infected with a virus then maybe I could see the point.

    Personally, I think we should wire something up to his eyes so we can tell him how fucking stupid he is in scrolling, blinking text.

  25. Profound by dmomo · · Score: 1

    In other news, chimpanzee learns sign language by listening to Metallica. To achieve this, researchers simply taught the chimpanzee sign language while playing Metallica.

  26. Worded poorly, and not news by theVP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article is just worded poorly. It implies that he actually contracted a computer virus, just like any human virus.

    All he really did was just implant a chip in his hand that had a virus on it. Then he demonstrated that the chip would actually transmit the virus. Which isn't really a huge shock, since he was using it to communicate with other devices in the first place. According TFA, he used it for security passes and his phone.

    So, at some point, he turned this into: "Pacemakers are at risk"....which, since they're not communication devices...no, no they're not.

    Sounds to me like someone lost their grant money or something, and was trying to justify eating doughnuts for 3 years and doing nothing else.

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    1. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by misexistentialist · · Score: 2, Informative

      Pacemakers that transmit wirelessly do exist.

    2. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by blackfrancis75 · · Score: 1

      not just the article, but the headline is worded poorly... so poorly in fact that we have to surmise that the editor is being deliberately misleading, rather than just that stupid.

    3. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

      circuits do not need to have intentional communication interfaces to be hard-hacked via induction. That, and newer pacemakers do sometimes have communication interfaces.

    4. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without wanting to give this idiot any credibility, pacemakers and implanted defibrillators are increasingly being put into patients with bluetooth technology installed to allow remote monitoring. These devices have already been identified as susceptible to viruses, so he's not actually done anything new there either

    5. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by fishexe · · Score: 1

      Sounds to me like someone lost their grant money or something, and was trying to justify eating doughnuts for 3 years and doing nothing else.

      Yes, but they would be cybernetic doughnuts!

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    6. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by guyfromhawthorne · · Score: 1

      I disagree; pacemakers have been capable of two-way communication for some time with the right equipment. Here's just one example: http://www.medtronic.com/for-healthcare-professionals/products-therapies/cardiac-rhythm/patient-management-carelink/medtronic-carelink-network-for-cardiac-device-patients/index.htm#tab2 And there has been a successful demonstration of a hack: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/business/12heart-web.html How long until these are automated? Who knows, but just know that they are at risk. . .

    7. Re:Worded poorly, and not news by guyfromhawthorne · · Score: 1

      Of course, that having been said, this guy is a raving lunatic and needs his funding pulled ASAP for blatant fear-mongering.

  27. Melding Plague by aliddell · · Score: 1

    When I first saw this, I thought Alastair Reynolds was a prophet. Then I found out it was kind of a dumb story. *Yawn*

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  28. Sometimes... by Chysn · · Score: 1

    ...thought experiments are sufficient.

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  29. More "Research" Firsts! by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I will now be the first human being to have Linux installed ...

    *puts Linux ISO on USB flash drive and drops his pants*

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    1. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by Ogive17 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That the "ubutto" distro?

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    2. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by vlm · · Score: 2, Funny

      The goatse guy has prior art, and he used a 5 1/4 inch hard drive as opposed to a wimpy USB flash. I'm sure theres someone out there whom can fit a whole NAS rack in.

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    3. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by captain_dope_pants · · Score: 1

      Windows first, then Linux - if you want to dual butt.

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    4. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by u8i9o0 · · Score: 1

      I will now be the first human being to have Linux installed ...
      *puts Linux ISO on USB flash drive and drops his pants*

      No, wait! Be extra careful with eunuchs-like systems!

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    5. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I will now be the first human being to have Linux installed ...

      *puts Linux ISO on USB flash drive and drops his pants*

      I would have just swallowed it. Your method of installation is a little more roundabout.

    6. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Should have stuck Windows ME on it. That's already crapware.

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    7. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Be sure to use an older version of Ubuntu, the color scheme is perfect.

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    8. Re:More "Research" Firsts! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux for human beings.

  30. Bigger implications... by coolmoose25 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with everyone that this demonstration was stupid... But the bigger question here deserves to be discussed - implanted devices CAN be infected with viruses, and we have to be careful about that... Implanted devices are becoming more and more common - it's not just pacemakers anymore. There was an article in Wired recently about the drive to create a "smart" insulin pump, one that would sense your blood sugar level and then adjust insulin delivery accordingly. This will become more and more common as we apply technology to "curing" disease... Keeping that technology virus free should be a high priority, especially as this technology gets integrated in more complex ways.

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    1. Re:Bigger implications... by timmarhy · · Score: 1

      so long as i'm not running symantec anti virus on anything inside me, i think i'll be ok.

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    2. Re:Bigger implications... by pnewhook · · Score: 1

      implanted devices CAN be infected with viruses, and we have to be careful about that

      Pacemakers CANNOT be infected with viruses!!! Sheesh.

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    3. Re:Bigger implications... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is side-effect of rapid development and off-the-shelf solutions. Why develop a custom, efficient, minimal platform for something when we can compile some code for a big, bloated existing one? That way, someone who understands the platform better than us can slip all manner of code in undetected.

      Sometimes you really do want geeks and not CS majors on your dev team.

    4. Re:Bigger implications... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very few have spent the time to create viruses for any OS other than Windows.
        Cars, most of which are highly computerized (and would have similar duties to any human-installed electronics) just don't get viruses. They get bad programming (ala Toyota).
       

    5. Re:Bigger implications... by coolmoose25 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Probably not. But we're not just talking about pacemakers here and that is the point. Implantable technology will continue to get more and more common - the insulin pump was just one example. There are now rudimentary artificial eyes that hook into the brain. That opens up all kinds of risks. And these devices are getting more networked... Heck, even pacemakers "call home" over a phone line to check on their status (you literally hold a phone handset on your chest to do the communication for some of them). Guaranteed that someday there WILL be a virus that infects implanted devices... Quicker if we are not careful.

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    6. Re:Bigger implications... by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      Implanted devices can only be infected with viruses *IF* we leave open, listening communications ports on them. Personally, I think I'd rather have an RJ-45 jack under my armpit than a wireless network port, if the implanted device is essential to health and well-being (like an insulin pump or pacemaker).

      "The more complicated the machinery, the easier it is to screw up the plumbing." --Scotty

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    7. Re:Bigger implications... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Artificial eyes... witness to a crime... a little photoshop and hacking magic... what? I didn't see nothin'!!

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  31. Epic fail. by bynary · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wake me up when someone has actually infected an organic organism at the cellular level with an honest to goodness computer virus made up of 0s and 1s (which is theoretically possibly since the human body controls itself in large part by electric pulses sent from the brain).

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    1. Re:Epic fail. by thewiz · · Score: 1

      I'm just interested in how long it will take before the scientist blue-screens.

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    2. Re:Epic fail. by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodtimes_virus

      Uses email to spread, then infects your body (precisely, your brain at electrochemical level) and subverts it to further its distribution by email.

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  32. So..... by Ubi_NL · · Score: 1

    If i'd eat an infected USB disk, id get the same result?

    If I'd cough some influenza on my keyboard id get the same (yet reciprocal) result?

    Idle is indeed the word.

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  33. /. needs a policy in Captain Cyorg news by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://www.google.com/search?q=captain+cyborg

    Ah, without clicking on any links (we have to stop feeding that fraud), google let me know this was the work of his sidekick, not him directly. Now, I demand that this fraud be fully identified in all future slashdot posts about him or his minions (an addendum to this thread would be wise, too), because HE'S A FUCKING CHARLATAN!

    Seriously, he called himself the "first cyborg" for putting an RFID chip in his skin years after people have had pacemakers, cochlear implants, and fucking wires in their brains (for vision to the blind and computer communications for the paralyzed). All reporters who called him "the first cyborg" should be fired, all "news" outlet that published that crap should be fined and stripped of all journalistic-perks (press passes, immunity from certain police procedures, etc). He's an attention whore who pulls these stupid publicity stunts to promote his books, stop helping him with his frauds.

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    1. Re:/. needs a policy in Captain Cyorg news by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

      You are quite correct, it's just a (very) lame stunt. It might help to put thing sin perspective - Uni of Reading is not exactly Ivy League, if you get my drift.

  34. So... by yellekc · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I swallow my thumb drive containing all my favorite programs, would they come out decompiled?

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but you might end up with a core dump.

    2. Re:So... by fishexe · · Score: 1

      If I swallow my thumb drive containing all my favorite programs, would they come out decompiled?

      More importantly, if you swallow a thumb drive containing all your favorite porn, what happens?
      (if you contracted VD, you'd have a better claim than this oaf to the headline of this page...)

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    3. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, just obfuscated.

  35. I really wish Reading Uni knock this off... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy is from the Cybernetics department at Reading University in the UK. This happens to be where I got my EE degree from. From my point of view he's just succeeding in devaluing my education

  36. Imagination... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about wireless implants?. Now to guarantee the safe access to a building all they must be scanned by a anti-virus

  37. Geller by 6031769 · · Score: 1

    It won't surprise you to learn that Dr. Gasson's Lab at Whiteknights is only a few miles from Mr. Geller's residence in Sonning. If you want to find out what other idiocy the cybernetics department of the University of Reading have been up to, do a quick search for "Kevin Warwick".

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  38. redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The virus did not originate, in any way shape or form, from his biological matter. So this is a pile of crap, this attention seeker should have his tenure revoked.

  39. It didn't move PC Human PC by WRX+SKy · · Score: 1

    It moved PC > Computer Chip > PC.

    This experiment is about the same as infecting a jump drive, putting it in your pocket, then infecting some other PC and proclaiming it a miracle of science.

    At no point was this virus ever "in" a human. It was being transported by a human, but it was still "in" a computer.

  40. Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have to agree. How effing pointless is this?
    It's psedo science mumbo jumbo that's designed to appeal to the press who appeal in turn to the unwashed clueless.

    The word virus in phrase computer virus is descriptive analogy to illustrate how a computer virus works.
    Replicating from infected computer host to infect other computer hosts that come into communicative contact. The terms virus, infect, host are all used in the description of biological viruses.

    This story is about a man who has implanted into his body a small device capable of storing information. The information just happens to be a computer virus. It could just as easily have been a random pdf or some porn. His body is incapable of receiving, decoding, or executing the information on the chip. There is no crossover, no human to computer infection. He shoved a computer chip up his arse that computers equipped with suitable anal RF readers can read. So what?

    Shove a USB pendrive onto into his head and make a story about man augments memory by drilling hole in his skull and ramming memory chip inside.

    Man shoots up gay porn into his arm would have probably been a more interesting story with more relevance.

  41. Sir... by dandart · · Score: 1

    You've not proved anything, you've just made yourself look like an idiot.

  42. Good grief by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

    So, what, you proved that flesh can't block radio signals? Good job there moron, we've only known that for about 100 years or so.

    God, I can't wait until the mainstream media gets wind of this one. The stupid, it will burn.

  43. need improvement by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    It would be fun to design a chip in your throat (think auto-tuning for voice cords' diseases), that has the ability to emit chemicals (to offset the hypothetical disease) and detect the current level of chemicals in the throat (for the purposes of negative feedback in order to control the normal level of drugs in the throat).

    The chip is run by the software of course.

    The virus would modulate chemical release with the ability to kill the host or send a digital virus sequence via modulated chemical signal to a similar chip in another person.

    Then, of course, it is much simpler to imagine a two-way radio based connection to such chip.

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  44. I think i'm safe by 228e2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    . . . my body runs Linux afterall :)

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  45. It is an interesting attack vector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Acquire RFID chip from the organization you wish to compromise, if they use them to track inventory, it's probably quite easy.
    Load the chip with a rootkit, and insert it back into the supply chain.
    Profit?

    I don't know if it's news, but I've never thought of it before.

    1. Re:It is an interesting attack vector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still don't see how reading data off the chip executes the virus? But if this would actually work, you don't need step 1 and 2. You could just load the malware into your own scanner and inject it into the tags as they sat in the back of a truck at a gas station. Hell, drive around broadcasting it from your car, then just wait and see if anything calls home.

  46. Ingest by Thyamine · · Score: 1

    Why not just swallow it then remove it from the toilet, less surgery, and the same damn thing. Just bizarre what people do sometimes.

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  47. Interesting choice of words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "British scientist" - wow, don't hear those words next to each other too often! It's sort of an oxymoron like "military intelligence" or "ethical journalist". The culture of innovation and discovery is going away, the future of Britain is a stable, multicultural society that respects the wishes of its citizens.

  48. dupe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is a duplicate - how did it make the front page?

  49. He's a Moron, however... by jjb3rd · · Score: 1

    Ok, that guy is a complete and total idiot, but when I first saw the title I thought, he wrote a computer virus to alter his DNA...i.e. using computer software to manipulate "genetic software" (I call rights to that one, bitches). Anyways, my idea is way cooler and scarier than some idiot with an implanted chip that infected a computer...a better story would have been the chip he implanted in himself gave him syphilis, then cured said syphilis, or that he went through the trouble of implanting a chip, only to find his firewall or anti-virus software blocked his attack, he contracted some disease from the implanted chip and the world is left with one less moron...too harsh?

  50. WTF is this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have never seen anything on slashdot before that I would say WTF over, but this seriously deserves it. Come on, delete this. It was completely stupid to even try to post this as news.

  51. Simple carrier by Zen-Mind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That is probable one of the biggest piece of false-science I have ever seen in years. The exact same thing could have been done with any compromised wireless device; the fact that the chip is under his skin is completely irrelevant. People helping to carry computer viruses have been around for decades, remember those floppies of shareware with virus on them??? Come-on!

  52. ENLARGE IT TODAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So is he going to start spouting random advertisements for cheap prescription drugs, pr0n websites, and how to enlarge my member, or simply be a zombie as part of a botnet?

  53. No he didn't. by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

    Get back to me when he infects his pacemaker, or muscle controller, or drug release system, etc etc.

  54. So... ...What happens now? by Stregano · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude has a crappy computer chip in him that has a virus on it. Now what? Will he try to get rid of the virus? Will he try and take the chip out?

    He has a useless computer chip in his body. That has got to suck.

    Imagine him trying to brag to people about it:
    "I have a computer chip implanted in me." "Cool, what does it do?" "Nothing, it is infected with a computer virus."

    FAIL

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  55. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez, this is stupid! I hope the guy is reading these posts, I can't believe he doesn't know how stupid this is.
    I also can't believe anyone would fund this... damn!

    Slashdot - this is below you.

  56. Next SciFi Channel movie of the week ? by Crashmarik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Makes about as much sense as flying mega shark.

  57. Load by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a load of crap. He proved nothing. The human is not the vector, the RFID chip is. And I HATE it when they call RFID implants 'computer chips'.

  58. This story as posted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is taking everyone on this site down a notch.

    remove it

  59. What is it with implanting things? by metacell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is it with nerds and implanting technology into their bodies? It doesn't seem to have much to do with practical use. Is it some kind of power fantasy?

    1. Re:What is it with implanting things? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Mine is to block signals to the nerves in my head and neck. I also have sexy platinum wires coated in Teflon with platinum connectors through my chest, shoulder and to my spine.

      Height: 2.6"
      Width: 1.9"
      Thickness: 0.6"
      2.4 oz

  60. University of Reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is THAT?

  61. Overdue Darwin Award? by Apagador-Man · · Score: 0

    I mean... Jeez! I am at a loss to conjure up the words that will allow me to voice how stupid this whole situation is, and how mind numbingly retard this guy's single neuron must have been years ago, before it died an agonizing death!

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  62. All Time Low by hpycmprok · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For me, this post and summary is an all time low for Slashdot.

    Maybe if the summary had said "check out how stupid this is..."

    Geeze. C'mon. What if somebody has their abdomen opened up and puts an entire laptop in there? What's the difference?

    1. Re:All Time Low by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > Maybe if the summary had said "check out how stupid this is..."

      It did. It's on Idle.

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  63. I ate a USB stick in 2006 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then later found out it had the Conficker worm. Good thing we are incompatible or I might have gotten worms.

  64. This is a doctor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of mad scientist University is this?

    1. Re:This is a doctor? by LingNoi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One that's wasting tax payer money on Dr. Who toys.

  65. 2-D bar code tattoo by vlm · · Score: 1

    Are there any 2-D bar codes with enough capacity, and a bar code reader system with enough security holes, that I could get a tattoo on my arm that could infect random windows boxes?

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    1. Re:2-D bar code tattoo by systemeng · · Score: 1

      I believe that there are 2D barcodes that can hold around 1kb of data. You'd probably need a CNC tatoo machine to barcode yourself though.

  66. And for his next trick... by malice · · Score: 5, Funny

    And for his next trick, Dr Mark Gasson will insert an Atari 2600 controller into his anus, and proceed to control a Windows PC's mouse cursor with it. This is the first time a human has ever taken over control of a computer with the twitching of their rectal wall, and demonstrates the need for anal computer security.

    All hail scientific achievement.

    1. Re:And for his next trick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the first time a human has ever taken over control of a computer with the twitching of their rectal wall

      I wouldn't be so sure about that.

    2. Re:And for his next trick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for his next trick, Dr Mark Gasson will insert an Atari 2600 controller into his anus, and proceed to control a Windows PC's mouse cursor with it. This is the first time a human has ever taken over control of a computer with the twitching of their rectal wall, and demonstrates the need for anal computer security.

      All hail scientific achievement.

      Here is one more example that Nobel-prize grade research is not all about genius but also luck: Unfortunately, the standard CX-40 joystick assembly didn't fit. It was decided to unhook the wire from the sensor board and insert that deeply into the anus. After some wriggling, the wire was positioned in exactly the right way to use a natural body appendix, conveniently located near the anus, to control the cursor instead.

    3. Re:And for his next trick... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, has been around for a while - that goats.ex guy used to control a good portion of Internet traffic using that very same technology.

  67. BS-level "science" by gweihir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What we do not need in the IT security field is stupid publicity stunts.

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  68. I have another idea ... we need to test this. by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

    I suggest we copy a virus into a removable media. Nop, not a small pendrive, I am thinking of a 4GB Quantum Bigfoot. Then, we stick it up this "scientist's" ass. Wait 2 days. Then we plug it back in into a computer. For science.

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  69. A Better Way by bigrockpeltr · · Score: 1
    He could as well just have stuck his little floppy into the headphone/microphone jack on his computer depending on which direction he wants to transfer the virus (line in or line out)

    Would give a new meaning to "jacking off"

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  70. Misleading title by cyrus0101 · · Score: 1

    I had visions of a real-world Snow Crash.

  71. Dalek by tagno25 · · Score: 1

    Did anyone notice the Dalek in the background controlling Dr Mark Gasson?

    1. Re:Dalek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..what, you mean the 1.5m high, wobbly-rotating (gotta love BBC tech props) killing machine sitting next to him with its laser cannon pointing at his head, screaming EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! ?

      Nope, never noticed it. Be trouble if the interviewer asked him to repeat his name for the camera tho - "hello, Dr. eh, Who?" - ZAP!

  72. You dont wanna know where he put the trojan! by BlackBloq · · Score: 1

    Snarf!

  73. Not a transmission between human and machine . . . by pacergh · · Score: 1

    The University of Reading does not have the reputation of other universities in the U.K., and this is a good example of why.

    This was a transmission between machine and machine. It is no different than a malware infection from a USB stick.

    To quote the very first response: "Stupid. Just plain stupid."

  74. OK, gone too far. by Like2Byte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not one to complain about /. editors; but, come on!

    This is "News for Nerds - Stuff That Matters." Did CN just hire some recent college grads that majored in Type-Writer Maintenance and wouldn't know the difference between HD Memory and computer memory?

    Just....plain....stupid.

  75. As a cyborg, let me say... by dazedNconfuzed · · Score: 1

    No, I'm not kidding. I have a pacemaker (the term "fatal error" is not a euphemism to me).

    Yes, the guy is a twit. "Infecting" a chip, sticking it in himself for storage, then using it to "infect" another chip, all to say "computer virus infects man, then vice versa" is stupid.

    However...

    As a prior /. article noted, there are concerns about the security of wireless-interface modern pacemakers and other implanted medical devices. Get close enough to me and you could (with undue effort) surreptitiously reprogram my pacemaker to annoying or lethal results. It is conceivable (though unlikely, as the software is very robust due to the severity of errors) that someone could write and deliver a computer virus to a pacemaker, a virus which in turn could infect the diagnostic computer at the patient's next tuneup, which could then repeat the cycle when used with another patient. Conceivable as a thought experiment, yes, but also vanishingly small probability in the real world (not enough computers of enough value to be worth the effort, coupled with extremely strict data checking therein). This may not "infect" a person in the normal sense, but could have very real life-altering effects (what, really, is the difference at that point?), and could involve a "contagious" vector that could spread to other implanted devices.

    I'm not worried ... but neither can I dismiss the concept entirely.

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  76. It's now semi-official... by unixan · · Score: 1

    May 26th will now be known as "Face-Palm Day".

    Or "May Fool's Day".

    Just one day after Towel Day, too.

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  77. Boredom Release by Trip6 · · Score: 1

    While this story has absolutely no redeeming value, it (and the comments above) do serve as boredom release. Does this get filed under Slashdot's entertainment section? SlashUS?

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  78. May we candidate him... by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

    ...for the Ig Nobel prize ?!?

  79. Prior art by Shoe+Puppet · · Score: 1

    I bet someone has swallowed a floppy/pendrive/whatever with a virus on it before.

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  80. Future Darwin award winner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad he didn't infect himself biologically; it surely would have been a new addition to the Darwin award winners! ;-)

  81. Mod Parent Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pointless Self Promotion

  82. Just plain stupid by somecoffeemug · · Score: 1

    I tried to put a virus infected PIC controller in my ear - I only felt slightly more stupid.

  83. Moron and an Asshole by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

    This guy is not only a moron for thinking this qualifies as infecting a human, but he's an assh*le for pushing the scientific community toward accepting something so trivial and, dare I say, fake as real science.

    I hope the implant process hurt. Like *really* hurt. Also, I hope the virus code makes the chip heat up so it burns him from the inside. Slowly.

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  84. The "idiot" tag... by Der+PC · · Score: 1

    covers all the bases this could ever touch...

    *sigh* I'll end up with no hope for humanity.

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  85. No.... by rickb928 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm never going to infect my computer with a rhinovirus, or a common cold, or polio. It's not going to get smallpox (even in the lab), chickenpox, or herpes.

    When we start making computers out of biological components, then we can have this discussion. In the meantime, I could implant an infected chip in my shoe and make a claim.

    Stupid.

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  86. When this would be news... by Technomonics · · Score: 1

    If the doctor embedded a Bluetooth device that would remain undetected until he sent a special-coded signal, at which point it would seek to compromise blue tooth devices in the reachable area with a malicious payload, THEN it would be a news item. The current story is nothing but supermarket trash-paper ZOMG ZOMBIES headline.

  87. It's all a cover up! by Virtucon · · Score: 1

    He really got caught after giving his wife a case of Syphilis. "uhm, yeah, honey, I was doing an experiment. Yeah, experiment that's it.. See I injected an infected computer chip into my body, yeah that's it, infected chip and it mutated into Syphilis and that's how you got it."

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  88. Obligatory Snowcrash reference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this implant thing...is it a virus, a drug, or a religion?

  89. Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Omg you guys!
    My phone got a virus while it was in my pocket and now my computer is infected!
    This is like, proof that malware can be transferred from pants to computer!!

  90. Snow Crash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody tag this with snowcrash.

  91. Re:epic fail (obligatory) by Anonymous+Cowardly+B · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new computer-virus-infected-implanted-chip-wannabe-scientist-overlords!

  92. attention whore by yyxx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Someone obviously needed to get into the press desperately again.

  93. AI at last by mbeckman · · Score: 1

    I presume the festering implant also qualifies this "scientist" as the first instantiation of "AI" -- Artificial Idiocy.

  94. I swallowed a usb disk by Errtu76 · · Score: 4, Funny

    and then i proved Man can core dump.

    Idiot.

    1. Re:I swallowed a usb disk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That man is not an idiot his point is quite clear: '' put some security in the damn readers cause a moron could infect his ID chip and pass through an airport check infecting the system'' plain and simple.

      the warning is real he was proving that a simple ID chip can contain more information than intended.

  95. Concern... by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

    Just as long as my computer can't get the clap, I'm ok.

  96. No, not really by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, no, this fails to be even Uri Geller kind of BS. Uri Geller was a fraud, but he knew how to put on a good show and sell an illusion that was actually quite appealing. In fact, a notion that many people wanted desperately to believe in.

    And even if you didn't believe in magic, it was at least very interesting as in trying to figure out "where's the trick"? Before Randi went and showed how it's done, it wasn't obvious at all to us non-trained in the conjuror arts. It was a good trick.

    But this guy and Captain Cyborg... words fail me. Really.

    I'm a SF fan. I like the idea of cyborgs and all. I like the idea of transferring information directly from a machine to a human and viceversa, though I must qualify it there: to a human brain. I'm even willing to entertain the notion of human consciousness transferred to a machine -- though not to the extent of being a techno-rapture cultist or anything. Etc.

    I should be exactly the market target for this kind of stuff. Except not _this_ kind of retarded stuff.

    Someone thinking that implanting an RFID chip under the skin makes him Captain Cyborg, or this guy thinking that storing a computer virus on a chip under his skin makes him "infected"... isn't even funny. It's ridiculous, stupid, and just a complete non-sequitur for the actual topic of cyborgs. A guy with a pacemaker or hearing aid is actually more of a "cyborg" because those actually interface with the living tissue and perform a function. A chip that's under the skin but not actually connected to anything biological just is not it.

    It doesn't even leave you thinking "what is the trick" or "good trick", because there is no trick. It's just a bad case of equivocation. It's transfer from PC to human only by virtue of the vagueness of the phrase, rather than any useful sense or interesting sense.

    If we're to talk Uri Geller comparison, guys like these are more like the equivalent of some guy claiming he's the first guy to eat with his arse. So he shoves a spoon's handle up his arse, takes it out, and then eats something with that spoon.

    It's freaking sad, that's what it is.

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    1. Re:No, not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I shoved a hard drive up my ass, that makes me a cyborg.

    2. Re:No, not really by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anyone with a programable pacemaker, insulin pump or nerve stim is more of a cyborg than these jokers. I've had a programable device jamming the nerves in my face for more than two years.

    3. Re:No, not really by canajin56 · · Score: 1

      Captain Cyborg is a name given to him in The Register. The Register also made up his claim to be a cyborg because of his RFID chip. You obviously have only heard of him from other Slashdot trolls though, since he has a neural interface connected to the median nerve in his arm. This interface both lets him control a robotic arm with his "mind" but also gives him a sort of tactile feedback from pressure sensors in the robotic arm. And you say "not actually connected to anything biological". If he's an idiot for calling that the "first step towards a true cyborg" then what do you call somebody who rants and rages about somebody without actually knowing the first thing about what they're talking about?

      The idiot with his virus chip is an idiot though. Or at least, he's trying to make a point about the importance of secure code as we create more and more medical implants. You don't want hackers hacking your cybernetic prosthetic limb and using it to assassinate the president, like happens to Iron Man every couple of issues (serious dude, get a firewall or something, why's your suit on the internet!?) He just happens to be grandstanding in order to make his point, and look pretty stupid while doing it...

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    4. Re:No, not really by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Informative

      While he may not have called himself a captain, I'm pretty sure he called himself a cyborg and has been lecturing about the ethics and rights in relation to cyborgs.

      I'm also pretty sure that he's been calling himself a cyborg long before that chip was connected to anything. The phase one of his experiment literally involved nothing more than an RFID chip under the skin, and that didn't stop him from presenting himself as becoming a cyborg and other such attention whoring. The only things that he could control with it were devices which basically just sensed the proximity of the chip itself, not any particular input from his brain.

      It would be no less that four effing years before someone actually designed a neural interface to implant him with. Someone _else_ designed it for him, yes. (Incidentally, the muppet who is the star of today's story.)

      But it didn't stop him from calling it "Project Cyborg", and presenting himself as becoming a cyborg, and talking about the rights of cyborgs, for four solid years of having no more merit than having injected a RFID chip under his skin.

      So, yes, I think my original assessment was actually correct. Warwick was indeed presenting himself as a cyborg at a point where he only had an RFID chip under the skin, and not connected to any nerve. And if you're going to berate me for it, please be sure that you have _your_ facts right first.

      And, yes, "Captain Cyborg" was a pithy nickname for him. I fear not pithy enough for such a monumental media troll, but I guess it will have to do.

      PS: and frankly, if we're talking cyborgs and neural connections, the blind folks which got a CCD camera chip implanted and actually started seeing, _still_ have a much better claim than Warwick.

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  97. I've seen this before by Morose1 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like something similar to what my 2 year old does when he's not getting enough attention. If the scientist had stuck it up his nose, it'd be spot on.

  98. Tabloid Science by rothstei · · Score: 1

    I heard the term "Tabloid Science" the other day, and this couldn't be a better example (unless it additionally threatened to increase global warming, discover aliens, and involved robots becoming self-aware).

    This story is, as I understand it, about a guy who transmitted a computer virus using a RFID chip that happened to be in his finger. And yet, we have this all-star headline, reposted everywhere from the BBC to Slashdot. It's reminiscent of the back pages of popular science magazines ("enslave ants to grow all your woman-attractive pheromones, now only $2.99!") except this is now science reporting, on the Internet.

    But I do appreciate all the sex jokes. Hell, we've got to have a place for that in the morning.

  99. Surely this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    scientist must have been Jeff Goldblum. I wonder if he had line of sight transmission capabilities?

  100. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy, sounds like those 1rst April headlines.

  101. Performance Art by pjdoland · · Score: 1

    This is actually somewhat interesting if you regard the whole affair as performance art, and not actual research.

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    1. Re:Performance Art by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      If this is art, then the cast of Jackass ought to be recognized as national treasures.

  102. Computer Virus ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would this ' computer Virus` malware be Microsoft Windows?

  103. The summary is the problem, the research is fine. by xmousex · · Score: 1

    The summary makes it sound like he implanted the chip with a virus in it to prove his point. Completely not what happened.

    The chip is in there as part of a greater study in security, part of an entirely different study of a larger scope, it operates his phone for instance. The whole virus discussion is just an aside to the research. The summary writer for slashdot is the moron here.

    this:
    "infected a computer chip which was then implanted in his hand with the virus and then transmitted it to a PC to prove that malware can move between human and computer"

    is an absolute lie. the chip was already there for other reasons.

  104. Reverse the roles by ajlitt · · Score: 1

    Coat the sharp sheet metal edges of a PC case in herpes and call the Geek Squad.

    1. Re:Reverse the roles by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Your first mistake was thinking they might actually try and open the PC case.

    2. Re:Reverse the roles by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? They ALWAYS open up cases. How else would they banish the demons?

  105. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  106. Scientist's Comments to the Press by HiroshimaPreist · · Score: 1

    Asked for comment, the scientist spoke only one word: "FIRST!!!!11"

  107. It didn't affect him until he ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...opened (the) Windows

  108. Lame, but that is how science works by jd.schmidt · · Score: 1

    OK, this is hardly a revolution of any kind, but science does require that you do things to prove they are possible not just assume you can do them. Long term there are lots of pratical little details around becomeing a cyborg.

  109. virus - meh by DeadJesusRodeo · · Score: 1

    I'm the first human to have an iPhone application installed. I stuck an iPhone in my mouth while an application was being downloaded from the app-store.

  110. Bad choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should have picked something other than Windows Vista for my pasemaker.

  111. Did this dope get a GRANT for this BS?! by zunipus · · Score: 1

    The declining status of science these days is appalling. This is George W. Bush science!

    For those who think this claim has validity: What REALLY happened is that a computer CHIP was stuck in the guy (aka he was 'chipped'). The CHIP was infected. The CHIP was then used to infect a PC. You might as well replace the 'human' element with 'hamster' or 'cement mixer' or 'dirt' or 'asteroid', blahblahblah. Someone send this guy back to high school please.

  112. ILOVEYOU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I understand why I cannot keep my hand out of my man parts! The chip in my hand must have gotten infected with the ILOVEYOU worm!

  113. Simply put by Nayr+Dnal · · Score: 1

    What a dork...

  114. Uh, he does know this is pointless, right? by divisionbyzero · · Score: 1

    I could inject a usb drive infected with a virus under my skin and plug a computer into it and it would just about be the the same. It'd be interesting if a biological virus translated itself into a computer virus and it passed the bio barrier into hardware.

  115. Wonder Twin Powers by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1
  116. Media whoring lies by meerling · · Score: 1

    1. No human was infected with a computer virus.
    2. No computer virus was transmitted to a computer from a human.
    3. Either he's extremely stupid or just a media whore.

    The chip holding the virus was physically located in his body, but it in no way interacted with his body. If that's his only standard then every driver of a car is a cyborg that receives radio signals directly to their brain.
    Actually, even that stupid statement is more true than what the british moron said since some interaction between machine and operator exists in a car/driver situation. Unlike that douchebags situation where he's being a convenient tabletop or pocket made of flesh that thinks sticking something randomly inside your body is some kind of breakthrough.

    Is that creep the same one that earned the nickname 'Captain Cyborg' for is stupid and false claims of being a cyborg just because he jams things in his flesh that have no other interaction with his body and will still do their exact same function if in a shirt or pants pocket, or even a handbag? I bloody hate that lying duplicitous media whore conman...

  117. Wireless cat? Piffle. by sgtrock · · Score: 1

    That's too easy. How about Linux on a dead badger?

  118. id10t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stupid is as stupid does.

  119. proving once again by swschrad · · Score: 1

    that some blinkin' idiots can wreck things by just walking past.

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  120. I have the fix for this by ouachiski · · Score: 1

    A simple injection of PC-Cillin should take care of the virus.

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  121. Why not by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    Instead of buying this expensive part, waste time getting it infected, implant it in yourself, get it to infect another computer.

    Why don't you just buy a Windows PC and staple it to your head. Everything accomplished in 1 step. All the extra steps will be handled automatically without the need of human intervention.

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  122. Slashdot's fault, not the researcher. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, but much as I love Slashdot, a good deal of misunderstanding here stems from the Slashdot's sensationalised introduction, which is tabloid-press level.

    If you RTFA or VTFV , you'd see that nowhere in the linked article OR the video does the researcher imply that he somehow contracted a computer virus, merely that a chip WITHIN HIM did,
    and that this chip could potentially pass the virus to another RFID chip or computer system in general.

      Of course it stands to reason that a sufficiently sophisticated RFID chip could do this, but at least this is being demonstrated done by SOMEONE, and it IS relevant to widespread technology. It mightn't be the most epochal study in history but it is necessary.

    Hmm, I wonder if you could do something interesting with an RFID sensor in Schrödinger's Cat? Nah, it isn't a workable loophole, it's still an observation :( .

  123. Weekly World News rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read about this same story in the Weekly World News ~20 years ago. I would have expected /. to either more carefully decide what it selects as credibly news-worthy or find a way to integrate Bat Boy into the story as well (for humor's sake) since there is otherwise nothing redeeming here.

  124. Hmmm by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    So, I could take a usb thumb drive, get it infected with, say, Win32/AutoRun.UG Worm, shove it up my ass, eat a burrito, poop it out and without washing it, plug it into a computer, and yell "Eureka!" when I start getting pr0n-filled popup adds as the worm takes over? The path to science is a weird one.

  125. Re:The summary is the problem, the research is fin by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    No, its garbage. They put a "virus" on a device temporarily in the researcher to generate buzz for a book.

    This researcher is a student of the other jackass who keeps putting things in himself and claiming to be a cyborg from the same school.

  126. Am I the only one that noticed? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    Implanting an infected chip != first human infected with a computer virus.

    At best he is the first human carrier of a computer virus.

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  127. Good Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One wonders if this wanker ever spammed his colleagues with warnings about the "Good Times" virus.

  128. TO EVERYONE THAT COMMENTED THUS FAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not resort to name calling... well come to think of it yes I do if it is true. So here goes.

    All of you that are saying that "this is stupid" blah blah blah blah blah.

    Are you all that mentally challenged that you can not see a use for this? Yes you are right when you say that it is not connected to the human, it is transmitting anyways.... yadda yadda yadda.

    Whatever... if you can not see any possible use for this you might as well quit breathing cause I am sure even your kids (if you have any) could come up with a use for this.

    Personally I see a huge potential for this which I will not share right now since I really should patent it first before I share it.

  129. Reply to most responders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess being booksmart - like most of you are who replied negatively to this article - is highly overrated. I think even the library janitor can see the simple wisdom of what Dr. Gasson has demonstrated. Don't let your intellects blind you to simple truths that you don't need to prove with science and that you don't need to read in a book. What good does all your knowledge do if you can't even see the plain truth of a matter?

    P.S. If you who responded negatively to this article ever need a "modern" heart, I hope it doesn't have an embedded system containing a ... virus.

  130. Fucking moron. by Randseed · · Score: 1

    Fucking moron.

  131. what a let down by johngineer · · Score: 1

    not exactly a 'snow crash', is it?

  132. And in the fog light is slower then sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of a joke:

    When in the mist, light is slower then sound.

    Why? Because you hear the car sooner then you see it.

  133. Stupid by Alistair+Hutton · · Score: 1

    Just want to add my own, this is stupid and anyone who's remotely impressed by this is stupid, post to the mass. This is stupid.

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  134. the attack of /b/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Flash memory in pooper!
    Shoe on head!
    Computer virus on implanted chip in arm!

    (stupid caps filter denies you all the true /b/ experience)

  135. Beware the Daleks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or is anyone else worried about the Dalek that listening in on the entire conversation. Maybe its making plans to spread the virus and subjugate the entire human race. "EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE!"

  136. Who funds this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine the confusion that will result when he gets a staph infection at the injection site. And the press releases.

  137. Re:Mark off the University of Reading by soppsa · · Score: 1

    Truth.