Some info on their new revenue model
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Opera Free as in Beer
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Cut and paste from their investors FAQ:
1. Search partners
The Opera Browser features integrated search and shopping bars, and partner companies pay a fee to Opera every time a user utilizes the integrated search or shopping bar. Opera cooperates with a few select partners it feels can contribute value to its product and users. Deals with companies like Google, Fast, Lycos, InfoSeek, Yahoo, Amazon, and eBay are showing constant growth in revenues for Opera.
2. Rendering engine as a separate product
Opera delivers a full-featured, embeddable version of its desktop browser that can be integrated into a wide range of applications. Adobe and Macromedia are important partners in this segment.
3. Opera Web Mail
Opera provides a free and a pay service Webmail. When users pay for the premium service, Opera splits the revenue with Outblaze, the company that operates the service.
It seems to me they have made a very wise choice. Being ad-free will increase the popularity of the browser tremendously, and thereby increase their incomes from sponsored search partners, like Google, which will probably more than compensate for their incomes from the paid browser, and annoying ads.
You are aware of that the latest stable version of Firefox is 1.0.6?
And if you get that many hits with the old Mozilla suite, you'd have to know there's something suspicious about your site, cause there aren't that many people using the Mozilla suite, especially not such outdated versions as = 1.7.7.
What kind of "General interest" site are you running there? "Mozilla suite Plugins and Add-ons"?
Well, actually, no...
First of all, as has been said approximately 75 million times, no, the upgrades are NOT included. Not included. No. 75 million is a good approximation on the number of users Firefox has, although it has both false positives (redownloading) and false negatives (one download, many installs, linux users, etc). 75 million is the only number we have and it's about right.
500 million songs is downloaded songs. Not downloads of iTunes. It's very probable that the average user has downloaded more than 6,67 (500/75) songs each, which would make Firefox more popular than iTunes.
Now consider that Firefox still has some kind of "scary open source thing only for nerds, why would I need it when IE works prefectly fine" ring to it's name, and iTunes is just "Look ma, I'm downloading songs legally", I'd say that the Firefox 75 million number is pretty darn impressive!
You are of course right, but don't underestimate the need for video portability:
Whenever you travel (long distance), be it bus, train or plane, people tend to look at a tiny little screen at a long distance, watching some crappy romantic comedy chosen by the stuardesses. Now - you and your traveling partner can easily watch the videos you brought on your iPod. Isn't that worth something? When travelling short distance, a video iPod wouldn't be bad either, would you not want to checkout the last episode of [Lost/24/Friends/Whatever you watch] in the train on your way to work/school? That's right.
Of course, the need for portable video is far less than for portable audio, but it still exists, and is probably enough to make a video iPod profitable!
Now, slashdotters need not password protect their computers so that their pr0n is not stolen, they can carry it around with them, wherever they go, safely stored in an iPod in their pocket!
Also, it will make possible this joke: - Is that an iPod in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? - Ehhmm... yes... glad to see... eh... you...
Actually, If you try out a modern phone, it has a resolution of about 240x320, which is approximately one quarter of the resolution of a normal tv. I have watched quite a lot of content on it, and it works surprisingly well. Most people I meet laugh at the idea of watching video from something as small as a mobile phone, but it is already quite enjoyable, and after being shown a video they are always eager to accept being wrong. (As an anecdote I've had some of my friends sit around my phone looking at the video of Satisfaction, and noone complained about the screen size being small)
I can only imagine that if Apple puts some effort into their video iPod, they'll be able to have the same resolution as a regular TV. The idea that we need to watch video on large screens (tv/cinema) is what I think is mostly convention, a small screen (at a closer distance to your eyes) occupies the same percentage of your retina as a big one at a distance. To me, such criticism is just like people said "who would ever want to walk and listen to music at the same time?". Small screens are usable already. And of course, should you prefer the relaxation of looking at something in the distance, you can always hook the iPod to the TV, just as the parent poster suggested.
This isn't the first linux phone Motorola has released, and I've previously tried to get a hold of one of those babies, but it seems they are only available in Asia.
Again, TFA says:
The E895 is expected to be initially introduced in the Asia-Pacific region in Q4 of 2005.
Does anyone know why Motorola keeps doing this? Isn't there a viable market for linux-based mobile phone in Europe or the US for example?
To this figure: add Ubuntu and Fedora, two GNOME-oriented distros, and I bet some of their combined 27 Coders will do something that's GNOME-related in some way.
And Apache is on the first place because it makes improvements to Apache are improvements to the web, and the web is what gives Google money. That alone is reason enough to sponsor Apache.
In Sweden, 5 out of 7 major parties are explicitly against software patents. Unfortunately, the government here (Social Democrats) support the proposal in the council of ministers. In the EP, however, where all parties are represented, the majority of the Swedish representatives are against.
And no - most Swedish citizens are content with their EU membership.
Learning while having fun is much more effective than learning because it's "important". I myself am an example of that - I learned English from TV (here in Sweden, they don't dub English-speaking programs, but use subtitles). Video games can also be a great source for learning foreign words - I'm sure I'm not the only one in Europe that has learned a huge part of the political and historical words I know from playing Civilisation.
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I for one welcome our new outer space overlords...
Sorry, but this time it's on topic!
That's because they know their mom isn't using Firefox ;-)
Well, I'm not saying it's bad in any way.
It being old means it's been around since the Netscape days, and that's way older than Firefox.
And yes, lot's of people use it, but not 25% of the population.
And more more than are using Firefox.
I'm just saying that the data in the grandparent post is bogus.
You are aware of that the latest stable version of Firefox is 1.0.6?
And if you get that many hits with the old Mozilla suite, you'd have to know there's something suspicious about your site, cause there aren't that many people using the Mozilla suite, especially not such outdated versions as = 1.7.7.
What kind of "General interest" site are you running there? "Mozilla suite Plugins and Add-ons"?
Well, actually, no... First of all, as has been said approximately 75 million times, no, the upgrades are NOT included. Not included. No. 75 million is a good approximation on the number of users Firefox has, although it has both false positives (redownloading) and false negatives (one download, many installs, linux users, etc). 75 million is the only number we have and it's about right.
500 million songs is downloaded songs. Not downloads of iTunes. It's very probable that the average user has downloaded more than 6,67 (500/75) songs each, which would make Firefox more popular than iTunes.
Now consider that Firefox still has some kind of "scary open source thing only for nerds, why would I need it when IE works prefectly fine" ring to it's name, and iTunes is just "Look ma, I'm downloading songs legally", I'd say that the Firefox 75 million number is pretty darn impressive!
You are of course right, but don't underestimate the need for video portability:
Whenever you travel (long distance), be it bus, train or plane, people tend to look at a tiny little screen at a long distance, watching some crappy romantic comedy chosen by the stuardesses. Now - you and your traveling partner can easily watch the videos you brought on your iPod. Isn't that worth something?
When travelling short distance, a video iPod wouldn't be bad either, would you not want to checkout the last episode of [Lost/24/Friends/Whatever you watch] in the train on your way to work/school? That's right.
Of course, the need for portable video is far less than for portable audio, but it still exists, and is probably enough to make a video iPod profitable!
Now, slashdotters need not password protect their computers so that their pr0n is not stolen, they can carry it around with them, wherever they go, safely stored in an iPod in their pocket!
Also, it will make possible this joke:
- Is that an iPod in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
- Ehhmm... yes... glad to see... eh... you...
Actually, If you try out a modern phone, it has a resolution of about 240x320, which is approximately one quarter of the resolution of a normal tv. I have watched quite a lot of content on it, and it works surprisingly well.
Most people I meet laugh at the idea of watching video from something as small as a mobile phone, but it is already quite enjoyable, and after being shown a video they are always eager to accept being wrong. (As an anecdote I've had some of my friends sit around my phone looking at the video of Satisfaction, and noone complained about the screen size being small)
I can only imagine that if Apple puts some effort into their video iPod, they'll be able to have the same resolution as a regular TV.
The idea that we need to watch video on large screens (tv/cinema) is what I think is mostly convention, a small screen (at a closer distance to your eyes) occupies the same percentage of your retina as a big one at a distance.
To me, such criticism is just like people said "who would ever want to walk and listen to music at the same time?".
Small screens are usable already. And of course, should you prefer the relaxation of looking at something in the distance, you can always hook the iPod to the TV, just as the parent poster suggested.
Sure, out of her point of view (she probably believes in this) and her business model, such a law suit seems completely logical.
My question is though: Why haven't any other astrologer complained about this? Are their horoscopes not broken? How does that work?
Again, TFA says:
Does anyone know why Motorola keeps doing this? Isn't there a viable market for linux-based mobile phone in Europe or the US for example?
Actually, GNOME didn't do so bad at all:
GNOME: 12
GNOME/GTK-based applications:
Gaim: 15
Inkscape: 4
Total: 31
To this figure: add Ubuntu and Fedora, two GNOME-oriented distros, and I bet some of their combined 27 Coders will do something that's GNOME-related in some way.
And Apache is on the first place because it makes improvements to Apache are improvements to the web, and the web is what gives Google money. That alone is reason enough to sponsor Apache.
And Rita is the Swedish word for "draw". With a K added to it to comply with all the other Koffice Kapplications.
Wanna bet your "probably" against mine?
Or maybe it's both?
What's with the J? Can anyone explain?
Hmm... seems that Slashcode struck me down! I'll have to preview next time.
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major flops under its belt
It's ok Steve... it happens to every guy! Maybe you were just nervous!
Look at you now - with your impressive... eh... Mac Mini...
Of course noone will want to do it...
;-)
Now if they threw in another five bucks we'd have a totally different story
The title says it all!
The MIT guys just want a reason to be invited to the carnival!
You go guys!
Maybe there even is a tux-at-carnivale department at MIT...
So, they want the Firefox and Thunderbird versions be in sync, is that so unreasonable?
What's the big news here?
This is not quite true.
In Sweden, 5 out of 7 major parties are explicitly against software patents.
Unfortunately, the government here (Social Democrats) support the proposal in the council of ministers. In the EP, however, where all parties are represented, the majority of the Swedish representatives are against.
And no - most Swedish citizens are content with their EU membership.
Anyone else notice the Bluescreen Of Death in the background?
Well, nice to see he's proud of it anyway =)
"Doesn't seem like much of a CallVantage" Just wait till they start airing an InfoMercial about it!
Learning while having fun is much more effective than learning because it's "important".
I myself am an example of that - I learned English from TV (here in Sweden, they don't dub English-speaking programs, but use subtitles).
Video games can also be a great source for learning foreign words - I'm sure I'm not the only one in Europe that has learned a huge part of the political and historical words I know from playing Civilisation.