All perfectly true, provided there are no other factors at work, and that is one hell of an assumption. The fact that you don't know of any other factors doesn't mean squat.
The other issue is that prevalence of guns in the hands of criminals most definitely produces a more dangerous society. And where do the criminals obtain these guns? By buying them from irresponsible gun dealers, and by stealing them from irresponsible gun owners.
Exactly. My own suggestion would involve several thousand "judges" from all walks of life, conversing with the candidate (50/50 chance of an AI or a human) for 10-15 minutes a day for a year. The judges would not be told the nature of the test until after it is over, and if a statistically significant number of the them guesses correctly, then this test will be a "fail".
And what if the system passes the test? It gets to try a harder one.
the immitiation game is what it has always meant, including the 30% bar
Wrong!
Turing predicted that in the near future, computers would be able to fool 30% of people in such a test. This was a remarkable claim at the time, given that truly general-purpose programmable computers didn't yet exist.
Turing never specified any "bar" above which the system would be considered to have passed the test.
I think you are confusing cynicism with skepticism. Skeptics say "no, I won't take your word for it" while cynics say "if you don't know somebody, assume they're an asshole".
If we assume that "sentience is a property that can only be found in living beings" and [blah, blah, blah], then we can conclude that "sentience is a property that can only be found in living beings".
This shit keeps appearing because Jeff Boehm (a.k.a. "Soulskill") has the hots for Haselton.
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Uh, the very next sentence is the answer:
One of the top private equity/leveraged buyout firms (private banks), the Carlyle Group, with the likes of George H.W. Bush as a past advisor, and with the original seed money coming from the Mellon family.
No, the reason we don't send nuclear waste into the sun is that just delivering something into geosynchronous orbit costs at least $50,000 per kg. Sending it completely out of earth orbit and into the sun would be hundreds of times more.
Given how heavy nuclear waste is, the cost of solar disposal would make nuclear power ridiculously expensive.
Google's autonomous cars have driven 700,000 miles on public roads with no citations
What roads? What conditions?
What unexpected challenges did they have to deal with?
When the NTSB (or Consumer Reports) certifies an autonomous car as safe, then I will believe it.
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All perfectly true, provided there are no other factors at work, and that is one hell of an assumption.
The fact that you don't know of any other factors doesn't mean squat.
The other issue is that prevalence of guns in the hands of criminals most definitely produces a more dangerous society.
And where do the criminals obtain these guns? By buying them from irresponsible gun dealers,
and by stealing them from irresponsible gun owners.
So you shouldn't be protected.
I'll drink to that.
Exactly.
My own suggestion would involve several thousand "judges" from all walks of life,
conversing with the candidate (50/50 chance of an AI or a human) for 10-15 minutes a day for a year.
The judges would not be told the nature of the test until after it is over, and if a statistically significant
number of the them guesses correctly, then this test will be a "fail".
And what if the system passes the test? It gets to try a harder one.
Wrong!
The 30% figure was a prediction for how far computers would get by the year 2000.
Wrong!
Turing predicted that in the near future, computers would be able to fool 30% of people in such a test.
This was a remarkable claim at the time, given that truly general-purpose programmable computers didn't yet exist.
Turing never specified any "bar" above which the system would be considered to have passed the test.
And of course, programmers and their bosses always do things right!
Monorail, monorail, monorail ...
Hah!
They told me my pyramid would sink into the sand, but I went ahead and built in anyway.
And it sank into the sand.
So, I rebuilt it from scratch!
And it sank into the sand...
But we won't get fooled again!
I think you are confusing cynicism with skepticism.
Skeptics say "no, I won't take your word for it" while cynics say
"if you don't know somebody, assume they're an asshole".
Don't know much about chemistry, do you?
A couple of billion years of evolution.
Because an unknown soldier said so!
If we assume that "sentience is a property that can only be found in living beings" and [blah, blah, blah],
then we can conclude that "sentience is a property that can only be found in living beings".
Thanks, John.
If by "abacus" you mean Turing Machine, then there is no reason to believe that the brain can do anything that a Turing Machine can't.
And if you don't like it, you can kiss my shiny metal ass.
This shit keeps appearing because Jeff Boehm (a.k.a. "Soulskill") has the hots for Haselton.
One of the top private equity/leveraged buyout firms (private banks), the Carlyle Group, with the likes of George H.W. Bush as a past advisor, and with the original seed money coming from the Mellon family.
What do you think "democracy" means, idiot?
No, the reason we don't send nuclear waste into the sun is that just delivering something into geosynchronous orbit costs at least $50,000 per kg.
Sending it completely out of earth orbit and into the sun would be hundreds of times more.
Given how heavy nuclear waste is, the cost of solar disposal would make nuclear power ridiculously expensive.
Don't forget drop bears.
What roads? What conditions? What unexpected challenges did they have to deal with?
When the NTSB (or Consumer Reports) certifies an autonomous car as safe, then I will believe it.
Right.
He looks like a Mac, obviously.
And if a learned man tells you that he can't remember if something is definitely possible ... how does that go again?
You need to learn how to use the "br" html syntax in /. posts.
It's right underneath the comment entry box.