Being BSD based, OSX runs Linux apps with little more than a recompile at times. (Endian issues and any asm of course needs to be fixed, but otherwise no problemo) Apple provides an X11 API for osx.
I'm sorry, but if AMD had the power to screw over Intel with evil buisness practicies, they would. They're both companies, and the goal of companies is moneys.
Huh? That's about AMD. This is about switching from IBM's PPC's to Intel's x86's. gcc is the compiler for OSX, open source and improved by Apple. The compiler for OSX86 is, you guessed it, still gcc, not ICC. (Although I would hope they compile OSX with ICC wherever possible, for speed reasons. Or, they release the gcc compiled version, then later fix & recompile with ICC, and list speed boost as one of their features)
The machines are 3.6GHz, compared to the current 2.5GHz G5's. Also, the GUI part of OSX is still 32bit, because moving it to 32bit doesn't offer any significant advantages, and slows down the code some.
G5's aren't that good. Compared to G4's, theyre slower per mhz in quite a few things. One of the main reasons for the apparent speed boost with x86->x86_64 was because they used it as an excuse to add to the architecture, adding more registers etc. While the G5's are sometimes slower (again, per mhz, not a 1.42GHz G4 vs 2.5GHz G5), because they have to address theoretically more RAM. Thats why alot of OSX isn't fully 64 bit, only where it makes sense. Otherwise it would just slow it down. Floating point speed has also been a pretty moot issue for modern x86 cpu's, as the gap shrinks. Oh, and people bought G5's because theyre nifty apple computers, not because they can do floating point any better, or because of altivec.
Linux has a stable binary interface? I think your thinking package management. You can run windows 95+ software? Running any linux app, from its creation until now is the same no matter what linux version. As long as its an ELF binary (see: yes.) Talking about finding packages is talking about package management, so your point is not compatible with itself. To make it clear in windows terms, your talking about installation files, which surprisingly enough you still have to "find" for windows (I didn't know it was hard to click "debian install" or "redhat rpm" on sourceforge, or type emerge in gentoo, but hey hey - your a windows user), so your argument makes no sense. Try again.
Bungie has nearly complete control over what they do. Hence the Halo ports to Mac and PC (Albeit a million years later.) However, RARE is more tightly bound and restricted. I believe theyre not allowed to make games for other platforms without MS's consent.
Haha, okay that's good. You sound really scary, up until the end. "It will become clear in 3-5 years". Think of how much linux/gnu has changed in the past 3-5 years. KDE was at v2. It has been improved like crazy since then. Let's not even start on the kernel, X11 (er, take that one out) and all the other apps, alot of which might not've even existed at that time point. From what I've read, longhorn has nothing on linux/gnu circa 2005, I don't expect it to pull ahead of linux/gnu 2010:)
p.s. Insert similar argument for Java here.
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Uh, its still marketspeak to a developer. If relearning a bunch of windows (keyword: windows) api's - when you know they'll be just as retarded as the last ones - sounds good to you, then you need to pick a new OS.
Avalon: new opportunities for developing exciting applications while reducing complexity Hah, you hear this from *every* company that is pushing a development platform. Sony with the PS2 (hah), Sony with the PS3 (Hah) and MS with the x360 (hah). You really trust microsoft on their word?
Indigo: radically simplifies how the next generation of connected systems will be built.
No idea what this means. Sorry I don't keep up on windows news. Sounds like shit though.
AERO: a new design philosophy that delivers a compelling user experience from the moment users start interacting with the computer to the moment they leave.
You've seen the screenshots. Looks pretty cluttered and clunky. If you want drop shadows, go to OSX. Also, note their usage of "philosophy". MS is a marketing company, not a collection of computer-science-philosphers. I keep picturing the OO philosophy, and how it got taken to the extreme (java.. honestly.. what the fuck?) of course I trust Sun to not fuck things up as much as MS (which isn't saying much for Sun.)
I honestly can't believe your a developer, because such a person would be the first person to see through the shit and realize you've been promised the same things over and over since the begining of time. Well, maybe you write spyware.
It almost sounds like your serious. If so, congrats, your so dumb the mods thought you were joking. If you were joking though - don't quit your day job and become a comedian.
Read the original parent. He's talking about a company taking already GPL'd code and putting it in theirs. They then have to license their code under the GPL, otherwise they have no legal right to use the GPL'd code.
On OSX, the root account is hidden. However, the password is the same as your default user. When I go to install software, i just put in my password. Great security. OSX has had TONNES of holes, thats why there are security updates. Same as linux. OSX isn't even all that unix-y as you may think. Sure, they are more secure, but don't get ahead of yourself. (For the record I use OSX and ppc gentoo linux, haven't used windows in a few years)
Uh, the power of unix and the power of microsoft office? What the hell? Mac's are not immune to viruses or spyware, why do you think there are security updates in Software Update? Having a "proprietary user interface and hardware" doesn't stop you from having a blue screen of death, the fact that OSX isnt windows and doesnt have the "blue screen of death" in it is what prevents it. Hell, have you ever had a kernel crash? Those are the same thing (when the screen fades, and a bunch of different languages all saying 'your fucked' (or 'reboot', i can never remember) show on the screen)
Don't troll windows users into switching to mac, I may like it, you may like it, but if theyre fine using windows then let them bitch about spyware.
er take the word milk out of there. I was thinking of a printer that squirted milk that solidified into bones when I was typing that. See what you did to me?
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What if its a toy car?
Being BSD based, OSX runs Linux apps with little more than a recompile at times. (Endian issues and any asm of course needs to be fixed, but otherwise no problemo) Apple provides an X11 API for osx.
I'm sorry, but if AMD had the power to screw over Intel with evil buisness practicies, they would. They're both companies, and the goal of companies is moneys.
Huh? That's about AMD. This is about switching from IBM's PPC's to Intel's x86's. gcc is the compiler for OSX, open source and improved by Apple. The compiler for OSX86 is, you guessed it, still gcc, not ICC. (Although I would hope they compile OSX with ICC wherever possible, for speed reasons. Or, they release the gcc compiled version, then later fix & recompile with ICC, and list speed boost as one of their features)
The machines are 3.6GHz, compared to the current 2.5GHz G5's. Also, the GUI part of OSX is still 32bit, because moving it to 32bit doesn't offer any significant advantages, and slows down the code some.
What's to stop people from finding something other than wool to pull over your eyes? (You know what I mean) It's the way the world works, sadly.
G5's aren't that good. Compared to G4's, theyre slower per mhz in quite a few things. One of the main reasons for the apparent speed boost with x86->x86_64 was because they used it as an excuse to add to the architecture, adding more registers etc. While the G5's are sometimes slower (again, per mhz, not a 1.42GHz G4 vs 2.5GHz G5), because they have to address theoretically more RAM. Thats why alot of OSX isn't fully 64 bit, only where it makes sense. Otherwise it would just slow it down. Floating point speed has also been a pretty moot issue for modern x86 cpu's, as the gap shrinks. Oh, and people bought G5's because theyre nifty apple computers, not because they can do floating point any better, or because of altivec.
dude, the article is reports from developers, who have the systems in their hands. Apple didn't make much hype after they announced it.
... you're... kidding... right? Every distro has around 100 mp3 players, from command line ones to winamp clones (xmms)
Linux has a stable binary interface? I think your thinking package management. You can run windows 95+ software? Running any linux app, from its creation until now is the same no matter what linux version. As long as its an ELF binary (see: yes.) Talking about finding packages is talking about package management, so your point is not compatible with itself. To make it clear in windows terms, your talking about installation files, which surprisingly enough you still have to "find" for windows (I didn't know it was hard to click "debian install" or "redhat rpm" on sourceforge, or type emerge in gentoo, but hey hey - your a windows user), so your argument makes no sense. Try again.
Bungie has nearly complete control over what they do. Hence the Halo ports to Mac and PC (Albeit a million years later.) However, RARE is more tightly bound and restricted. I believe theyre not allowed to make games for other platforms without MS's consent.
Haha, okay that's good. You sound really scary, up until the end. "It will become clear in 3-5 years". Think of how much linux/gnu has changed in the past 3-5 years. KDE was at v2. It has been improved like crazy since then. Let's not even start on the kernel, X11 (er, take that one out) and all the other apps, alot of which might not've even existed at that time point. From what I've read, longhorn has nothing on linux/gnu circa 2005, I don't expect it to pull ahead of linux/gnu 2010 :)
p.s. Insert similar argument for Java here.
Uh, its still marketspeak to a developer. If relearning a bunch of windows (keyword: windows) api's - when you know they'll be just as retarded as the last ones - sounds good to you, then you need to pick a new OS.
Avalon: new opportunities for developing exciting applications while reducing complexity
Hah, you hear this from *every* company that is pushing a development platform. Sony with the PS2 (hah), Sony with the PS3 (Hah) and MS with the x360 (hah). You really trust microsoft on their word?
Indigo: radically simplifies how the next generation of connected systems will be built.
No idea what this means. Sorry I don't keep up on windows news. Sounds like shit though. AERO: a new design philosophy that delivers a compelling user experience from the moment users start interacting with the computer to the moment they leave.
You've seen the screenshots. Looks pretty cluttered and clunky. If you want drop shadows, go to OSX. Also, note their usage of "philosophy". MS is a marketing company, not a collection of computer-science-philosphers. I keep picturing the OO philosophy, and how it got taken to the extreme (java.. honestly.. what the fuck?) of course I trust Sun to not fuck things up as much as MS (which isn't saying much for Sun.)
I honestly can't believe your a developer, because such a person would be the first person to see through the shit and realize you've been promised the same things over and over since the begining of time. Well, maybe you write spyware.
Highly anticipated by virus writers. Gotta get a head start.
It almost sounds like your serious. If so, congrats, your so dumb the mods thought you were joking. If you were joking though - don't quit your day job and become a comedian.
Read the original parent. He's talking about a company taking already GPL'd code and putting it in theirs. They then have to license their code under the GPL, otherwise they have no legal right to use the GPL'd code.
On OSX, the root account is hidden. However, the password is the same as your default user. When I go to install software, i just put in my password. Great security. OSX has had TONNES of holes, thats why there are security updates. Same as linux. OSX isn't even all that unix-y as you may think. Sure, they are more secure, but don't get ahead of yourself. (For the record I use OSX and ppc gentoo linux, haven't used windows in a few years)
Uh, the power of unix and the power of microsoft office? What the hell? Mac's are not immune to viruses or spyware, why do you think there are security updates in Software Update? Having a "proprietary user interface and hardware" doesn't stop you from having a blue screen of death, the fact that OSX isnt windows and doesnt have the "blue screen of death" in it is what prevents it. Hell, have you ever had a kernel crash? Those are the same thing (when the screen fades, and a bunch of different languages all saying 'your fucked' (or 'reboot', i can never remember) show on the screen)
Don't troll windows users into switching to mac, I may like it, you may like it, but if theyre fine using windows then let them bitch about spyware.
It's called Internet Explorer.
Your enviroment may change your jeans.
You make me sick. (Karma be damned)
Your wasting electricity posting on slashdot you insensitive clod!
Well, theres the focusing crystal, the lens....
er take the word milk out of there. I was thinking of a printer that squirted milk that solidified into bones when I was typing that. See what you did to me?
Uh, wtf? Where are you going to buy a bone marrow milk cartridge? I think scanning the bone is the smallest technological feat in your scenario.