Now that does dramatically reduce the value of the advertisements, since advertisers want that kind of information, but it's not a ban.
yes it is. analytics are everything. it's like an advertiser wanting to place a cable TV ad, and asking how many viewers they can expect, and the cable TV company saying "we have no ideas". the advertiser walks out because one they have no idea how to negotiate a price and two they have no idea how effective the ad can be.
Apple isn't saying you can only use their ad service. You can use ANY ad service. They're just saying that ad services belonging to direct competitors in the OS/Hardware game can't collect some device demographics information.
analytics are *everything* to an ad service. the service is essentially useless without it.
apple nor google put ads on iphone or android devices. the ads go in the apps that developers write. i don't like ads any more than the next guy, but developers should have the freedom to use them to try and obtain compensation for their time, if they so wish. if *you* don't like it, don't use the app.
tens of press releases about android tablets, and no actual hardware. this is just another vapor device. hey editors, approval should be contingent on a link where i can buy the device.
yes but they won't kick me out of a wear a six flags t-shirt. why? disney world owns their property but they don't own me. for the same reason apple doesn't have to use google's services in the operating system or apps it provides, but stopping third party app developers from using google services is just wrong.
apple owns the iphone and the OS and some of the apps but they don't own the apps that developers write.
easy answer, because it stifles innovation. apple should beat google by building a better ad SDK / service, not by locking them out of the market. in general, if you don't have competition you are less likely to innovate.
and if that doesn't get you, take you idea to the logical conclusion. why should MSFT allow apple computers to boot windows? why should google let apple computers search using google? why should google let iphones use google maps? why should apple let you run MSFT office on OSX? maybe apple should build its own search service and lock out the IPs of other search services?
well exactly, they aren't crying foul because apple got into the business. they are crying foul because apple isn't letting them compete. it doesn't get more anti-competitive than locking google out of the market. apple should beat google by building a better ad SDK / service, not like this.
skype is clearly on a monetization war path. skype 3g was released for android, but only for verizon-based devices where they are getting a kickback. skype 3g for the iphone has an extra monthly charge for the privilege of using it over 3g. the 3g charge is almost double what it otherwise costs for an unlimited US calling plan.
IMHO, skype has jumped the shark. time for someone new to come in and eat their lunch.
must be a very trendy place. that's the only way they could get away with such nonsense. i feel sorry for them in 2 months when they go out of style.
first, if i pay for the food i should be able to flush it down the toilet if i want. second, i didn't choose the portion. if someone serves me more food than i can eat, that's not my fault... and it's not healthy for anyone to force themselves to eat food when their body says they are full.
Which saves more gasoline, going from 10 to 20 mpg, or going from 33 to 50 mpg?
people answer incorrectly because the question is academic. what matters is that people know a higher MPG is better, which i think almost everyone does.
Laws and regulations clearly prohibit the spread of information that contains content subverting state power, undermining national unity, [or] infringing upon national honor and interests.
read that carefully. it's subjective enough to cover just about anything. for example, say you start taking about porn... does that infringe on national honor? perhaps you want to discuss middle eastern politics. does your view go against national interests? maybe.
it sounds like you might be a chinese citizen, so considering your interpretation of that above, i suggest you go try our your new found freedom and see how far you get. please report back to us and let us know.
How do you expect anyone to do any work on Chrome OS?
for "work", most people don't need 3D gaming. they aren't creating art nor music, and even for software companies, only a small % of the total employees actually do software development. just saying...
i think if you asked google and could get a candid answer, they'd say Chrome OS is a gamble that everything you want to do will eventually be on the web. i don't think they have a lot invested in it. after all, what is it? linux that boots into a browser?
well, they don't care that it's yours per se. they map your SSID to an approximate address. that goes into a database. now when someone else's phone sees that same network, voila, they know approximately where that person is. you get GPS-like abilities on a device with no GPS hardware.
Imagine you're chatting with a friend while you're walking down the street. Is it OK if anybody records your conversation (perhaps even without your knowledge and/or approval), stores it indefinitely, and does - well - basically anything they want with it? Is it OK if it's being sold or otherwise passed on? Is it OK if private companies do this? Your employer? The government?
yes, actually whatever you do in public is in the public domain.
don't like people knowing your SSID? don't broadcast it. don't like people knowing your get sloppy drunk every day after work? do it in the privacy of your own home.
And disregard attempts by companies that know nothing about platform-building to adapt current smartphone versions of Android (or desktop Linux distros) to tablet use. They'll do it badly, and hardly anyone will write apps with such monstrosities in mind.
as for android, there's no "adapting" required. it already runs on high-resolution screens today. there's already a huge app ecosystem that will run as-is on an android tablet.
my iphone hasn't been completely stable until 3.1.3. there are reports of Droid phones rebooting for no reason. The Nexus One had all kinds of problems. It took HP 2-3 years of firmware and driver updates to make their Proliant G5 servers stop rebooting due to a bug in the iLO firmware. OS X 10.6 hasn't been out a year and it's almost on service pack 4 where all the updates are larger than the OS that shipped last year.
that's all pretty much BS, sorry.
we have an iphone and it's completely stable i can't even remember the last time it has needed a reboot. it's more like an appliance that a computer in that respect.
i own a nexus one and have had very, very few problems with it. i follow android news pretty closely and have seen no reports of the droid being unstable.
i've been running OSX 10.6 since shortly after it was released and it's been extremely stable and i've had zero compatibility problems. i just did an uptime on my oldish MBP that i use every day for work and it's been up 69 days.
you know there are a surprising variety of android devices, and android seems to be doing okay with it.
i agree the single phone model plan makes it easier on developers, but it doesn't allow vendors to differentiate themselves. it works for apple because they are the only vendor selling their phone.
this boils down to how cell providers compete in the US. not on service, or features, or even service costs. rather, they lure customers into long term contracts with shiny new phones. they wouldn't buy in to a phone OS that doesn't allow them to out-shiny the competition.
for example, you may see a CDMA iphone, but there won't ever be a day when the majority of providers carry the iphone. why? because that would force them to compete based on the service they provide instead of the phone.
the game stays on the phone until the users removes it. google doesn't have any rights over the software you are running on your phone. break all the laws you want in that regard, it's not their problem.
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it would be stepped down to 512 or fewer MHz almost all of the time
Now that does dramatically reduce the value of the advertisements, since advertisers want that kind of information, but it's not a ban.
yes it is. analytics are everything. it's like an advertiser wanting to place a cable TV ad, and asking how many viewers they can expect, and the cable TV company saying "we have no ideas". the advertiser walks out because one they have no idea how to negotiate a price and two they have no idea how effective the ad can be.
Apple isn't saying you can only use their ad service. You can use ANY ad service. They're just saying that ad services belonging to direct competitors in the OS/Hardware game can't collect some device demographics information.
analytics are *everything* to an ad service. the service is essentially useless without it.
not really.
apple nor google put ads on iphone or android devices. the ads go in the apps that developers write. i don't like ads any more than the next guy, but developers should have the freedom to use them to try and obtain compensation for their time, if they so wish. if *you* don't like it, don't use the app.
adobe is one of few major software vendors that has consistently kept their software suite going on mac, even through the bad times.
tens of press releases about android tablets, and no actual hardware. this is just another vapor device. hey editors, approval should be contingent on a link where i can buy the device.
yes but they won't kick me out of a wear a six flags t-shirt. why? disney world owns their property but they don't own me. for the same reason apple doesn't have to use google's services in the operating system or apps it provides, but stopping third party app developers from using google services is just wrong.
apple owns the iphone and the OS and some of the apps but they don't own the apps that developers write.
easy answer, because it stifles innovation. apple should beat google by building a better ad SDK / service, not by locking them out of the market. in general, if you don't have competition you are less likely to innovate.
and if that doesn't get you, take you idea to the logical conclusion. why should MSFT allow apple computers to boot windows? why should google let apple computers search using google? why should google let iphones use google maps? why should apple let you run MSFT office on OSX? maybe apple should build its own search service and lock out the IPs of other search services?
anyone think that would be positive for users?
well exactly, they aren't crying foul because apple got into the business. they are crying foul because apple isn't letting them compete. it doesn't get more anti-competitive than locking google out of the market. apple should beat google by building a better ad SDK / service, not like this.
skype is clearly on a monetization war path. skype 3g was released for android, but only for verizon-based devices where they are getting a kickback. skype 3g for the iphone has an extra monthly charge for the privilege of using it over 3g. the 3g charge is almost double what it otherwise costs for an unlimited US calling plan.
IMHO, skype has jumped the shark. time for someone new to come in and eat their lunch.
from TFA:
... and will kindly ask those who don't clean their plates to not come back
it's not just about not receiving a discount, it's about being banished from the restaurant.
must be a very trendy place. that's the only way they could get away with such nonsense. i feel sorry for them in 2 months when they go out of style.
first, if i pay for the food i should be able to flush it down the toilet if i want. second, i didn't choose the portion. if someone serves me more food than i can eat, that's not my fault ... and it's not healthy for anyone to force themselves to eat food when their body says they are full.
Which saves more gasoline, going from 10 to 20 mpg, or going from 33 to 50 mpg?
people answer incorrectly because the question is academic. what matters is that people know a higher MPG is better, which i think almost everyone does.
crystallization of human wisdom???
to be fair, that's a translation.
Laws and regulations clearly prohibit the spread of information that contains content subverting state power, undermining national unity, [or] infringing upon national honor and interests.
read that carefully. it's subjective enough to cover just about anything. for example, say you start taking about porn ... does that infringe on national honor? perhaps you want to discuss middle eastern politics. does your view go against national interests? maybe.
it sounds like you might be a chinese citizen, so considering your interpretation of that above, i suggest you go try our your new found freedom and see how far you get. please report back to us and let us know.
android already runs androids apps.
How do you expect anyone to do any work on Chrome OS?
for "work", most people don't need 3D gaming. they aren't creating art nor music, and even for software companies, only a small % of the total employees actually do software development. just saying ...
i think if you asked google and could get a candid answer, they'd say Chrome OS is a gamble that everything you want to do will eventually be on the web. i don't think they have a lot invested in it. after all, what is it? linux that boots into a browser?
And proves that there's really nothing Flash can do that HTML 5 can't.
yes, that seems like a logical conclusion.
How does knowing my SSID help them?
well, they don't care that it's yours per se. they map your SSID to an approximate address. that goes into a database. now when someone else's phone sees that same network, voila, they know approximately where that person is. you get GPS-like abilities on a device with no GPS hardware.
Imagine you're chatting with a friend while you're walking down the street. Is it OK if anybody records your conversation (perhaps even without your knowledge and/or approval), stores it indefinitely, and does - well - basically anything they want with it? Is it OK if it's being sold or otherwise passed on? Is it OK if private companies do this? Your employer? The government?
yes, actually whatever you do in public is in the public domain.
don't like people knowing your SSID? don't broadcast it. don't like people knowing your get sloppy drunk every day after work? do it in the privacy of your own home.
And disregard attempts by companies that know nothing about platform-building to adapt current smartphone versions of Android (or desktop Linux distros) to tablet use. They'll do it badly, and hardly anyone will write apps with such monstrosities in mind.
as for android, there's no "adapting" required. it already runs on high-resolution screens today. there's already a huge app ecosystem that will run as-is on an android tablet.
Anecdotes can get you only so far
actually, it's called empirical evidence.
my iphone hasn't been completely stable until 3.1.3. there are reports of Droid phones rebooting for no reason. The Nexus One had all kinds of problems. It took HP 2-3 years of firmware and driver updates to make their Proliant G5 servers stop rebooting due to a bug in the iLO firmware. OS X 10.6 hasn't been out a year and it's almost on service pack 4 where all the updates are larger than the OS that shipped last year.
that's all pretty much BS, sorry.
we have an iphone and it's completely stable i can't even remember the last time it has needed a reboot. it's more like an appliance that a computer in that respect.
i own a nexus one and have had very, very few problems with it. i follow android news pretty closely and have seen no reports of the droid being unstable.
i've been running OSX 10.6 since shortly after it was released and it's been extremely stable and i've had zero compatibility problems. i just did an uptime on my oldish MBP that i use every day for work and it's been up 69 days.
you know there are a surprising variety of android devices, and android seems to be doing okay with it.
i agree the single phone model plan makes it easier on developers, but it doesn't allow vendors to differentiate themselves. it works for apple because they are the only vendor selling their phone.
this boils down to how cell providers compete in the US. not on service, or features, or even service costs. rather, they lure customers into long term contracts with shiny new phones. they wouldn't buy in to a phone OS that doesn't allow them to out-shiny the competition.
for example, you may see a CDMA iphone, but there won't ever be a day when the majority of providers carry the iphone. why? because that would force them to compete based on the service they provide instead of the phone.
the game stays on the phone until the users removes it. google doesn't have any rights over the software you are running on your phone. break all the laws you want in that regard, it's not their problem.