Once you're off the clock it is your private time to do with as you please
sure, if they specifically tried to fire you were drinking in your off time, but it doesn't happen like that usually.
in the US most employment is at will. that means barring discrimination, your employer can let you go whenever they want, and they don't need a reason. so feel free to let your employer know you are a binge drinker, but if they don't approve they are perfectly in their rights to kick you out the door.
they don't have to fire your for drinking, they just lay you off without reason.
in the US anyway, most employment is at will. that means your employer can let you go at any time, for any* reason. even if they don't like your off-the-clock behavior.
would you yell jokes about drugs on a street corner? at a family dinner? in the break room at work? if not, don't do it on facebook.
almost all employers (in the US) are at-will. that means they can get rid of you at any time, for any reason. it doesn't matter that it was just a joke. if your employer doesn't like the joke, goodbye.
the few people who went ahead with google's nexus one experiment, and those that didn't, are now seeing what it was really about. it wasn't about having the absolutely most shiny phone. it was about getting timely bug and feature updates. it's about a phone that gets better and better over time.
apple knows this secret. it's why there are people with 2-year old iphone 3g's that are still very happy with their hardware. it's why apple users don't mind paying a premium price for apple hardware. it's why they come back and buy more apple hardware.
nobody is going to force all android device manufacturers to operate like this. hopefully consumers with think beyond the initial shiny-ness of their phones on the day they open the box, and consider how their carrier and device manufacturer are going to support that device over it's lifetime.
personally, i'm sticking with whatever android "reference" device google blesses until the carriers and other manufacturers start to pull it together.
phone manufacturers don't care. service providers do.
they have an interest in being able to control the software that runs on devices that connect to their network. the most obvious example is tethering. they don't want everyone to have it for free, they want to charge $30 / month extra. on a rooted phone they can't control that.
yes i heard this, but i can't figure out why they would block android devices. if you have an ad-supported service like hulu, isn't it the more eyes the merrier?
maybe the licences they have for content don't permit mobile devices.
tabs would take up too much screen real estate. even one row could consume ~10% of the vertical space. anything more than say 3 tabs would need to be scrolled off to the side or a second row.
as someone else mentioned, the android browser already has windows. menu>windows brings up a chrome-like page with a thumbnail of all your open pages. not instance access like tabs but a good compromise.
if the wifi tether in 2.2 is anything like the wifi tether app you can install today on rooted android devices, your phone will melt a hole in your pants if you leave it running.
No DRM. Not having root access in stock Android carrier/HTC will sufficiently prevent casual copying of paid apps to another device.
can you explain how that will work? if the app is installed on an SD card, there's no file permission (it's formatted FAT32). no one can stop you from copying the the app off an SD card.
if you have tethering now it's because you have a hacked ROM or because you are using a third-part app like PDANet that subverts the debug interface... the general android populace does not have tethering.
first, it's certainly possible that android 2.2 implements tethering in a way where it can be enabled or disabled at the carrier. it just really seems unlikely to me that anyone who gets an android 2.2 device will get free tethering, when currently carriers are charging double data rates to enable it. common sense says they won't just give that up.
assuming that's not the case, that they can't tell if it's tethering, they can tell the phone model. if say google officially releases tethering-for-all on android 2.2, on the nexus one... the carrier can simply lock nexus one's off their network. or they can automatically stick them on a higher-cost service plan. carriers aren't obliged to let any phone on their network.
and the point is, google wouldn't do that. they wouldn't put themselves in contention with carriers like that. carriers are key to android's success.
so android 2.2 purportedly has tethering (wifi, bluetooth & usb) built into the OS. how will the carriers handle this? i really want to believe i'm getting free tethering in android 2.2 but considering the nexus one (probably the first phone with 2.2) works on AT&T and T-mo, i just can't believe those two companies are just going to magically allow free tethering for N1 users.
in the US, two of the 4 major carriers don't use SIM. the other two that do use SIM have incompatible 3G networks. if you built the modem hardware into the computer, it'd be for one carrier (or lots of $$$ to and space to support the networks of all the carriers).
the single biggest complaint about android is fragmentation across OS versions. in other words, manufacturers aren't spending the $ to upgrade the version of android for their phones, and carriers don't even want them to anyway because that just means they have to educate their support staff again.
apple of course already figured this out. they get away with releasing a phone every year, where at the end of the cycle it's down right outdated. nobody complains though because over that year they are continuously getting bug fixes and feature updates delivered to their phone. not only do they not complain, they are happy to pay a premium for such a phone because unlike almost every other phone out there it's not a throw-away after a year.
it doesn't allow tethering because the carriers wouldn't allow the phone on their network if it did. pretty simple. there are unofficial ways to tether android phones even without rooting them.
I will never again buy another phone which tells me what network I can use it on despite it's technical ability to connect to other network
i hope you don't live in the US. all US carriers are incompatible. you can unlock the phone all you like but you can't switch to a different carrier because of their networks are incompatible. okay you *can* do AT&T t-mo, but you lose 3G when you switch which is a deal-killer for almost anyone with a smart phone.
By the end of the summer, the Nexus One won't be state of the art as far as Android phones go so there's no real reason for them to continue selling it.
considering all the carriers have android phones and they all depend on having shiny new phones to lure in new 2-year contract suckers, you will see a new "state of the art" android phone every quarter from now on.
i'm completely fine with my N1 not being the top hardware. what i like about it is that it's going to be the first phone running android 2.2, and 2.3, etc. i can assume it will have timely updates. that's something that's no assured for any other android phone and has proven not to be the case.
The savings from the no contract data plan will have completely paid the difference for my phone somewhere between 4 and 18 months from now (depending on how i want to count it)
how many ways are there to cut it? you pay $10 less per month on t-mobile, and no savings at all on other carriers. you pay $350 more overall ($530 vs. $180 subsidized). in 35 months, you'll break even after paying $350 more up front.
and you have the freedom of not having a contract, which is a good thing.
exactly. all the carriers know it's cheaper to lure customers in with shiny new phones, lock them in for 2+ years, and then dish out terrible service. it's no accident that all US carriers have incompatible networks. they've silently agreed to compete for new customers and nothing else.
no, AT&T iphone plan is $70 / month. on t-mo, you save $10 a month with the no-contract plan. if you do the math, the nexus one in and out of contract options works out almost exactly the same over 2 years.
no, it's $10 less for the no-contract plan. if you do the math, it works out to almost exactly the same price over 2 years with the service whether you pay $180 + $10 more each month or $530 + $10 less each month.
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India implemented this law before they had their terrorist attacks last year and it sure did a lot to prevent those eh?
why not take this to its logical conclusion: india's implementation of this law actually *caused* the terrorist attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
Once you're off the clock it is your private time to do with as you please
sure, if they specifically tried to fire you were drinking in your off time, but it doesn't happen like that usually.
in the US most employment is at will. that means barring discrimination, your employer can let you go whenever they want, and they don't need a reason. so feel free to let your employer know you are a binge drinker, but if they don't approve they are perfectly in their rights to kick you out the door.
they don't have to fire your for drinking, they just lay you off without reason.
in the US anyway, most employment is at will. that means your employer can let you go at any time, for any* reason. even if they don't like your off-the-clock behavior.
* there are exceptions for gender, race, etc.
would you yell jokes about drugs on a street corner? at a family dinner? in the break room at work? if not, don't do it on facebook.
almost all employers (in the US) are at-will. that means they can get rid of you at any time, for any reason. it doesn't matter that it was just a joke. if your employer doesn't like the joke, goodbye.
And saying that it "cost" $4.8 million just isn't understanding humanity.
and applying this to you, you have been reading /. too long and are also making errors.
the few people who went ahead with google's nexus one experiment, and those that didn't, are now seeing what it was really about. it wasn't about having the absolutely most shiny phone. it was about getting timely bug and feature updates. it's about a phone that gets better and better over time.
apple knows this secret. it's why there are people with 2-year old iphone 3g's that are still very happy with their hardware. it's why apple users don't mind paying a premium price for apple hardware. it's why they come back and buy more apple hardware.
nobody is going to force all android device manufacturers to operate like this. hopefully consumers with think beyond the initial shiny-ness of their phones on the day they open the box, and consider how their carrier and device manufacturer are going to support that device over it's lifetime.
personally, i'm sticking with whatever android "reference" device google blesses until the carriers and other manufacturers start to pull it together.
phone manufacturers don't care. service providers do.
they have an interest in being able to control the software that runs on devices that connect to their network. the most obvious example is tethering. they don't want everyone to have it for free, they want to charge $30 / month extra. on a rooted phone they can't control that.
so yes, they have a lot to lose.
yes i heard this, but i can't figure out why they would block android devices. if you have an ad-supported service like hulu, isn't it the more eyes the merrier?
maybe the licences they have for content don't permit mobile devices.
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tabs would take up too much screen real estate. even one row could consume ~10% of the vertical space. anything more than say 3 tabs would need to be scrolled off to the side or a second row.
as someone else mentioned, the android browser already has windows. menu>windows brings up a chrome-like page with a thumbnail of all your open pages. not instance access like tabs but a good compromise.
if the wifi tether in 2.2 is anything like the wifi tether app you can install today on rooted android devices, your phone will melt a hole in your pants if you leave it running.
No DRM. Not having root access in stock Android carrier/HTC will sufficiently prevent casual copying of paid apps to another device.
can you explain how that will work? if the app is installed on an SD card, there's no file permission (it's formatted FAT32). no one can stop you from copying the the app off an SD card.
if you have tethering now it's because you have a hacked ROM or because you are using a third-part app like PDANet that subverts the debug interface ... the general android populace does not have tethering.
first, it's certainly possible that android 2.2 implements tethering in a way where it can be enabled or disabled at the carrier. it just really seems unlikely to me that anyone who gets an android 2.2 device will get free tethering, when currently carriers are charging double data rates to enable it. common sense says they won't just give that up.
assuming that's not the case, that they can't tell if it's tethering, they can tell the phone model. if say google officially releases tethering-for-all on android 2.2, on the nexus one ... the carrier can simply lock nexus one's off their network. or they can automatically stick them on a higher-cost service plan. carriers aren't obliged to let any phone on their network.
and the point is, google wouldn't do that. they wouldn't put themselves in contention with carriers like that. carriers are key to android's success.
so android 2.2 purportedly has tethering (wifi, bluetooth & usb) built into the OS. how will the carriers handle this? i really want to believe i'm getting free tethering in android 2.2 but considering the nexus one (probably the first phone with 2.2) works on AT&T and T-mo, i just can't believe those two companies are just going to magically allow free tethering for N1 users.
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these components disperse quickly in a gas
in gas under sea level pressure on earth sure. not so much the case near the "surface" of a gas giant.
"All apps must be approved by Microsoft, and can only be distributed via the Windows Marketplace for Mobile."
that's easier than writing and OS that is hardened against viruses and malware.
in the US, two of the 4 major carriers don't use SIM. the other two that do use SIM have incompatible 3G networks. if you built the modem hardware into the computer, it'd be for one carrier (or lots of $$$ to and space to support the networks of all the carriers).
nexus one plans, t-mobile,
1. $530 (unsubsidized phone) + $60 / month * 2 years = $1970
2. $180 (subsidized phone) + $70 / month * 2 years = $1860
so the "subsidized" nexus one is actually slightly cheaper over 2 years.
as for the iphone, you are right, i didn't count unlimited messaging. t-mo's equivalent plan does have unlimited text.
here's what indispensable about the N1: upgrades.
the single biggest complaint about android is fragmentation across OS versions. in other words, manufacturers aren't spending the $ to upgrade the version of android for their phones, and carriers don't even want them to anyway because that just means they have to educate their support staff again.
apple of course already figured this out. they get away with releasing a phone every year, where at the end of the cycle it's down right outdated. nobody complains though because over that year they are continuously getting bug fixes and feature updates delivered to their phone. not only do they not complain, they are happy to pay a premium for such a phone because unlike almost every other phone out there it's not a throw-away after a year.
it doesn't allow tethering because the carriers wouldn't allow the phone on their network if it did. pretty simple. there are unofficial ways to tether android phones even without rooting them.
I will never again buy another phone which tells me what network I can use it on despite it's technical ability to connect to other network
i hope you don't live in the US. all US carriers are incompatible. you can unlock the phone all you like but you can't switch to a different carrier because of their networks are incompatible. okay you *can* do AT&T t-mo, but you lose 3G when you switch which is a deal-killer for almost anyone with a smart phone.
By the end of the summer, the Nexus One won't be state of the art as far as Android phones go so there's no real reason for them to continue selling it.
considering all the carriers have android phones and they all depend on having shiny new phones to lure in new 2-year contract suckers, you will see a new "state of the art" android phone every quarter from now on.
i'm completely fine with my N1 not being the top hardware. what i like about it is that it's going to be the first phone running android 2.2, and 2.3, etc. i can assume it will have timely updates. that's something that's no assured for any other android phone and has proven not to be the case.
The savings from the no contract data plan will have completely paid the difference for my phone somewhere between 4 and 18 months from now (depending on how i want to count it)
how many ways are there to cut it? you pay $10 less per month on t-mobile, and no savings at all on other carriers. you pay $350 more overall ($530 vs. $180 subsidized). in 35 months, you'll break even after paying $350 more up front.
and you have the freedom of not having a contract, which is a good thing.
exactly. all the carriers know it's cheaper to lure customers in with shiny new phones, lock them in for 2+ years, and then dish out terrible service. it's no accident that all US carriers have incompatible networks. they've silently agreed to compete for new customers and nothing else.
no, AT&T iphone plan is $70 / month. on t-mo, you save $10 a month with the no-contract plan. if you do the math, the nexus one in and out of contract options works out almost exactly the same over 2 years.
no, it's $10 less for the no-contract plan. if you do the math, it works out to almost exactly the same price over 2 years with the service whether you pay $180 + $10 more each month or $530 + $10 less each month.