i agree. there are really two valid issues. one is that toxicity of the build up, the other is that increased likelihood of electronic component failure. it'd probably be less controversial to focus on the latter.
you are absolutely right but that's not the point. the contaminated laptop was brought out of the person's home where someone else might have been subjected to the toxic build up on the laptop.
would you have the same opinion if the laptop was contaminated with asbestos dust? lead? would the apple tech be obligated to work on it then? i hope you would say no. nicotine is a carcinogen. just because billions of people willing inhale it doesn't change that fact.
subject yourself all you want but you can't ask others to do the same against their will.
rotten piss isn't a carcinogen. in fact piss isn't toxic at all. you can even drink it if you had to. also, piss isn't airborne so the janitor can wear gloves and fully avoid contact with the piss. now the cleaning chemicals they have to deal with are probably a different story.
would they have to honor the service contract if the laptop was exposed to abestos, lead dust, or <insert favorite toxic agent here>? most people i think would say no.
just because billions of people willingly subject themselves to nicotine each day doesn't change the fact that it is a carcinogen. IMHO, and in the opinion of most western countries, the average person has a right to avoid being subjected to carcinogens.
yes, flame on with counterexamples, but in general that's the way things are moving.
thanks for the input i'll try to "dumb down" my posts from now on to cater to people that haven't heard of the most popular iphone apps ever written. it's pretty much impossible to have not seen this app if you've ever browsed the app store on your phone.
no. you entered into an agreement with MSFT. you broke that agreement. it doesn't matter if you committed further crimes (pirating xbox software) after you broke the agreement, that's that the issue. you can mod your console any which way you like it is yours after all., but MSFT can put any terms they want on you using their online service. if you don't like the terms, don't use it... and accept the consequences for breaking the terms of use.
the stories we hear about john doe that made $10,000,000 on a stupid cigarette lighter app are in the past. the app market, both android and iphone are completely saturated. there are so many developers at this point that any new (simple) idea will be infinitely copied to the point that no one makes anything.
the apps that will make money today are carefully crafted, large scale games and productivity apps. the type of apps that you need to put significant $$$ into to get something back. this isn't the type of thing john doe can build in a few hours in the evening after his day job.
so yes, the stories of easy app money are dead for both iphone and android. have fun and build your cigarette lighter app, but don't expect someone to pay for it when there is 10 other apps that do the same thing that are free.
well. good theory, but i don't know of any 3rd party dist mechanism that has more than a handful of apps. and almost everything is allowed on android market, even apps that required rooted (aka jail-broken) phones. there are a few notable exceptions, but they account for a very, very small number of the total.
they could out-pay MSFT, but i doubt they'd bother. the most they would do is remind those companies that bing has <10% market share (and dropping actually), then ask them to consider how much of their business is based on internet advertising, and if they want to risk that for a piddling $1 million.
if they are in the top 1k, they are already successful and obviously understand the importance of their position in search results. they aren't going to mess with that for a one-time payment of $1 million. changing how their company is advertised via search results is something that could affect them for years to come.
because he'll have people asking "where's my winzip" and then "install winzip please". non-techies are pretty upset when you force them to take time out of their already busy day to learn some new technology. zip is probably a bad example, but going from MS office to openoffice is incomprehensible for the average office worker.
My Android phone has none of those. There are a few apps in the Android market that claim to provide bluetooth and wifi tethering, but they don't work on unmodified Android phones.
that's right. you aren't going to find apps that let you cheat your provider on the market, and your phone will probably require a mod of some sort to use them. that's true across any mobile platform.
And I have never seen USB tethering at all for Android. Do you even know what USB tethering is? It means you plug in your phone and it appears as a modem. If that were (well) supported on Android, an Android phone would just appear as a 3G model when plugged into USB; it doesn't.
Unfortunately for Netbeans zealots, it has never caught up with Eclipse.
that's an opinion that i'm guessing has either to do with how you use your IDE, or the fact that you haven't used netbeans in a while. i use both. i use netbeans for java / java EE development, and eclipse for android development (since netbeans doesn't have officially blessed android plugin).
leaving out the lack of an official android plugin, netbeans beats eclipse in every way. ease of use, plugins, stability, ease of install, flexibility, standards. the only thing i can say bad about netbeans is that it uses more resources that eclipse...
This simplifies things a lot for AT&T (who still hasn't introduced tethering for the iPhone): All they have to do to get back on the high horse is come up with a better pricing plan than Verizon's and have the service available in the next couple of months. Even AT&T can potentially pull that off.
yes, all they have to do is allow the masses to add additional bandwidth hungry devices to their already overtaxed 3g network. great idea.
let's compare it to iphone tethering. oh wait, they don't even have the option. if you read the latest buzz, the cost will be the same for iphone, when (and if) it is released, and it will also have a 5Gb cap. what are people comparing this to? just a wishy washy feeling that $30 is too much?
tethering adds a second device onto their network. a device that is considerably more bandwidth hungry than a smart phone. did you think that your carrier was going to give you an (almost) free data plan for general usage just be because you are a nice person?
When you're running a multi-billion dollar company, you can afford to test your software on a wide variety of machines with a large QA staff to run the whole exercise. Microsoft and Apple have the billions; Canonical does not.
right, except apple doesn't need billions. they have a well-defined, well controlled set of hardware they need to test. they have it easy compared to windows and linux that must (try) to run on nearly infinite combination of hardware.
and that partly answers why apple will never release OSX on non-apple hardware. they'd need to charge enough to cover the cost of supporting those infinite hardware combinations. not to mention covering the loss in hardware sales due to some % of people choosing to run OSX on non-apple hardware.
it's pretty much doomsday to a company when you tell them they are going to be pushed out the general consumer market and have to base profits on niche markets. i wish i knew what % of say garmin's business is based of consumer auto GPS. i suspect it's quite high.
I wouldn't want to risk my phone-GPS running down my phone-phone: that's a safety fail just waiting to happen.
you can carry two devices and two batteries. or one device and two batteries. iphones have battery packs, and most other cell phones have user-serviceable batteries. and, if you point is that you wouldn't be carrying your cell phone, then put it in airplane mode and you get zero drain from the cell phone aspect of the device.
GPS companies can't survive serving a the niche market that is people that go camping every other weekend. well, they can survive in a much downgraded state from where they are now... which will in time cause them to get so far behind technologically that phones will actually be better GPS than their stand alone units.
and you don't need 3g to use google maps.
It sounds like the maps will still only be hosted by Google, rather than stored on the device as with standalone GPSs. As long as that's the case, there will probably still be standalone units.
true... but a large percentage of people that have standalone GPS units now would ditch them if they could dump the extra hardware. and that number is going to go up as cell service improves. even if you don't buy into "large percentage", even 10% is enough to make companies like Garmin start to sweat.
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don't confuse google chrome (the browser) with chrome (the OS).
i agree. there are really two valid issues. one is that toxicity of the build up, the other is that increased likelihood of electronic component failure. it'd probably be less controversial to focus on the latter.
you are absolutely right but that's not the point. the contaminated laptop was brought out of the person's home where someone else might have been subjected to the toxic build up on the laptop.
would you have the same opinion if the laptop was contaminated with asbestos dust? lead? would the apple tech be obligated to work on it then? i hope you would say no. nicotine is a carcinogen. just because billions of people willing inhale it doesn't change that fact.
subject yourself all you want but you can't ask others to do the same against their will.
rotten piss isn't a carcinogen. in fact piss isn't toxic at all. you can even drink it if you had to. also, piss isn't airborne so the janitor can wear gloves and fully avoid contact with the piss. now the cleaning chemicals they have to deal with are probably a different story.
would they have to honor the service contract if the laptop was exposed to abestos, lead dust, or <insert favorite toxic agent here>? most people i think would say no.
just because billions of people willingly subject themselves to nicotine each day doesn't change the fact that it is a carcinogen. IMHO, and in the opinion of most western countries, the average person has a right to avoid being subjected to carcinogens.
yes, flame on with counterexamples, but in general that's the way things are moving.
thanks for the input i'll try to "dumb down" my posts from now on to cater to people that haven't heard of the most popular iphone apps ever written. it's pretty much impossible to have not seen this app if you've ever browsed the app store on your phone.
Should Microsoft worry?
no. you entered into an agreement with MSFT. you broke that agreement. it doesn't matter if you committed further crimes (pirating xbox software) after you broke the agreement, that's that the issue. you can mod your console any which way you like it is yours after all., but MSFT can put any terms they want on you using their online service. if you don't like the terms, don't use it ... and accept the consequences for breaking the terms of use.
the stories we hear about john doe that made $10,000,000 on a stupid cigarette lighter app are in the past. the app market, both android and iphone are completely saturated. there are so many developers at this point that any new (simple) idea will be infinitely copied to the point that no one makes anything.
the apps that will make money today are carefully crafted, large scale games and productivity apps. the type of apps that you need to put significant $$$ into to get something back. this isn't the type of thing john doe can build in a few hours in the evening after his day job.
so yes, the stories of easy app money are dead for both iphone and android. have fun and build your cigarette lighter app, but don't expect someone to pay for it when there is 10 other apps that do the same thing that are free.
well. good theory, but i don't know of any 3rd party dist mechanism that has more than a handful of apps. and almost everything is allowed on android market, even apps that required rooted (aka jail-broken) phones. there are a few notable exceptions, but they account for a very, very small number of the total.
they could out-pay MSFT, but i doubt they'd bother. the most they would do is remind those companies that bing has <10% market share (and dropping actually), then ask them to consider how much of their business is based on internet advertising, and if they want to risk that for a piddling $1 million.
if they are in the top 1k, they are already successful and obviously understand the importance of their position in search results. they aren't going to mess with that for a one-time payment of $1 million. changing how their company is advertised via search results is something that could affect them for years to come.
because he'll have people asking "where's my winzip" and then "install winzip please". non-techies are pretty upset when you force them to take time out of their already busy day to learn some new technology. zip is probably a bad example, but going from MS office to openoffice is incomprehensible for the average office worker.
My Android phone has none of those. There are a few apps in the Android market that claim to provide bluetooth and wifi tethering, but they don't work on unmodified Android phones.
that's right. you aren't going to find apps that let you cheat your provider on the market, and your phone will probably require a mod of some sort to use them. that's true across any mobile platform.
And I have never seen USB tethering at all for Android. Do you even know what USB tethering is? It means you plug in your phone and it appears as a modem. If that were (well) supported on Android, an Android phone would just appear as a 3G model when plugged into USB; it doesn't.
yes i know what it is. do you?
http://androinica.com/2008/11/05/usb-tethering-comes-to-the-t-mobile-g1/
google before you speak.
Unfortunately for Netbeans zealots, it has never caught up with Eclipse.
that's an opinion that i'm guessing has either to do with how you use your IDE, or the fact that you haven't used netbeans in a while. i use both. i use netbeans for java / java EE development, and eclipse for android development (since netbeans doesn't have officially blessed android plugin).
leaving out the lack of an official android plugin, netbeans beats eclipse in every way. ease of use, plugins, stability, ease of install, flexibility, standards. the only thing i can say bad about netbeans is that it uses more resources that eclipse ...
android has USB, bluetooth, and wifi tethering. what more do you want?
This simplifies things a lot for AT&T (who still hasn't introduced tethering for the iPhone): All they have to do to get back on the high horse is come up with a better pricing plan than Verizon's and have the service available in the next couple of months. Even AT&T can potentially pull that off.
yes, all they have to do is allow the masses to add additional bandwidth hungry devices to their already overtaxed 3g network. great idea.
android phones will be everywhere by early next year. verizon in no way is going to have something special.
let's compare it to iphone tethering. oh wait, they don't even have the option. if you read the latest buzz, the cost will be the same for iphone, when (and if) it is released, and it will also have a 5Gb cap. what are people comparing this to? just a wishy washy feeling that $30 is too much?
tethering adds a second device onto their network. a device that is considerably more bandwidth hungry than a smart phone. did you think that your carrier was going to give you an (almost) free data plan for general usage just be because you are a nice person?
When you're running a multi-billion dollar company, you can afford to test your software on a wide variety of machines with a large QA staff to run the whole exercise. Microsoft and Apple have the billions; Canonical does not.
right, except apple doesn't need billions. they have a well-defined, well controlled set of hardware they need to test. they have it easy compared to windows and linux that must (try) to run on nearly infinite combination of hardware.
and that partly answers why apple will never release OSX on non-apple hardware. they'd need to charge enough to cover the cost of supporting those infinite hardware combinations. not to mention covering the loss in hardware sales due to some % of people choosing to run OSX on non-apple hardware.
it's pretty much doomsday to a company when you tell them they are going to be pushed out the general consumer market and have to base profits on niche markets. i wish i knew what % of say garmin's business is based of consumer auto GPS. i suspect it's quite high.
I wouldn't want to risk my phone-GPS running down my phone-phone: that's a safety fail just waiting to happen.
you can carry two devices and two batteries. or one device and two batteries. iphones have battery packs, and most other cell phones have user-serviceable batteries. and, if you point is that you wouldn't be carrying your cell phone, then put it in airplane mode and you get zero drain from the cell phone aspect of the device.
your wife probably has, or will have in the near future, her own smart phone.
imagine if you will a day far, far in the future when SD cards will be big enough to store your maps for offline use ... oh wait ...
GPS companies can't survive serving a the niche market that is people that go camping every other weekend. well, they can survive in a much downgraded state from where they are now ... which will in time cause them to get so far behind technologically that phones will actually be better GPS than their stand alone units.
and you don't need 3g to use google maps.
It sounds like the maps will still only be hosted by Google, rather than stored on the device as with standalone GPSs. As long as that's the case, there will probably still be standalone units.
true ... but a large percentage of people that have standalone GPS units now would ditch them if they could dump the extra hardware. and that number is going to go up as cell service improves. even if you don't buy into "large percentage", even 10% is enough to make companies like Garmin start to sweat.