What's also funny is that the statement referred to firing the sys admin responsible for "losing" the machine. I'd bet the only way this would happen is if the sys admin who did install the server quit, was fired, or unexpectedly died...
(But, yes, since the linked to page is an advertorial for Sun, and the system was running Novell, the balance of the evidence suggests it did in fact happen...)
File "textdocument" would then be broken up into chunks of maybe 2500 characters, posted on slashdot as AC on the first story on the main page, and the comment UID recorded.
vi/mnt/slash/textdocument
Would then retrieve each post using the previously stored comment UIDs, merge them together in order, and spit back your original text file.
Completely pointless, but I thought it was a cool idea.
I never understood why they didn't just set in the ST universe, 1000 years fter the fall of the Federation. They'd have an existing fanbase and I know I'd watch it (shallow, I know). Different network, perhaps?
It's true that we need different terminologies for the different types of research and programs that are currently reffered to as AI.
Slightly off-topic, but it really annoys me when people describe Eliza and ALICE systems as "AI". I would prefer the term "pseudo-intelligence", and apply it to any situation where a computer pretends (perhaps through a pre-programmed interface, or throgh pre-programmed scripted commands) to be intelligent. (An example would be the mailer-daemon that tells you he's given up trying to post your message, and is sorry it didn't work out.)
The second broadly classifiable app that is erronenously termed AI is that kind of AI used in modern computer systems - games, self-correcting systems (OCR, TTS, etc.), and so on. Perhaps these have the best claim to the term AI, so we should leave them as AI? Or perhaps call them HA - heuristic algorythms. (Although computer games possibly dont count because the AI doesn't learn as it goes on.)
And now we come to what alot of people might call AI - intelligences, sch as HAL from 2001. Shall we take a page out of Deus Ex's book and call them electronic sentiences (ES?)
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I do completely agree with you that building an intelligence may be possible, and I also completely agree that if it is possible to build an AI, we won't be able to control it or make it any way "useful" to us.
But as a *purely research* project, creating an AI would be an AWESOME achievement and would probably give us a greater understanding of sentience in the process. But your post implies we can do it, but aren't simply because it won't be useful to us.
(Deepest appologies if I've misinterpreted your post.)
This is kind off-topic (err, very off-topic) but something I've been thinking about for a fairly long time. Let's forget the reading a book example, and lets forget DARPA for a second, and just look at this guy's idea. It seems to me, it would be *very* useful in a compter game, where the world is not only highly-strctured, but also known to the computer program. I imagine a system that could map textual input ("Attack those guards") onto a list of expected sentance strctres (verb-pronoun-noun, corresponding to an order to (verb) the (nouns)). The AI would then carry out your instructions in the virtual world. This obviously wouldnt (at least, I don't think so) lead to AI of the HAL-2001 variety, but would make for very immersive and engaging computer games.
Whaddya think - plausable?
I'll be returning to Sager's page (which I only briefly scanned) in the future...
Hmm, sorry, it seems I was mistaken about the registry patch. It also seems MS claims the security tab is disabled in XP Home (I have Pro.), but despite this it is possible to get it working.
First of all, your filesystem must be NTFS, not FAT. That may make the "Enable SImple Filesharing" box appear, but if it doesn't, I have heard it appears when the computer is booted in safemode.
Sorry I can't be of more help!
Tools -> Folder Options -> View -> Unlick "Enable Simple File Sharing (Reccomended)". (If its not there, you need to download a registry patch so it shows up.)
Damn annoying, but we've all been there. I'm in the process of upgrading to a linux home server right now, actually.
American's really need an extended period under a really repressive dictator so they stop taking it for granted
Unfotunately, The Powers That Be have had the last 30 years (rougly since Vietnam) to perfect the science of manipulating public opinion. 50 years from now there could easily a dictater in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and the People, too high on MTV and Cable, would gladly report to thhe FBI anyone un-American enough to be a democrat-sympathiser.
I would argue that in order to be a good citizen, it is nessesary to vote for the party you believe will fulfull your needs the most. Always challenging the existing system in hopes of a better one, I believe is also an integral part of citizenship. As a previous poster said, the First Ammendment (and the others) are not universal rights, but principles which must be fought for at every opportunity.
No argument from me there - you're completely right. What I meant was, it seems its ok for the networks to promote sexism against men, but not to promote sexism against women.
there would be a gender-backlash the likes of which we have never seen
And that is what I hate about it most. It's not just sitcoms - take SitC, for example. If the rolse were gender reversed, it would be taken off the air within the hour.
(Another poster in this topic advocated the position that "they" don't need schools or primary education as they will all be farmers - I almost lost my temper. Good to see there is still common sense left on/.)
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They certainly don't need education when 99% of their futures and full-time jobs will be along the lines of 'farmer'.
And that is possibly the most biased, arrogant, ego-centric thing I have ever heard out of slashdot.
Something along the lines of "teach a man to fish" - they dont need computers, but they do need education.
This week, Bill Gates donates 100,000 dollars to help fight AIDs over the next 10 years. In other news, Bill Gates also donates 10 million dollars to help fight linux over the next ten years.
Bla bla. Above figures made up, etc. But you see my point?
Why must the computer be in a public area? I'd have thought it was the LAN admin's responsibility to ensure that no matter what they do on the inside of the LAN, it can't affect the network, and deffinately can't reach the Net. Just my 2 cents..
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What's also funny is that the statement referred to firing the sys admin responsible for "losing" the machine. I'd bet the only way this would happen is if the sys admin who did install the server quit, was fired, or unexpectedly died...
(But, yes, since the linked to page is an advertorial for Sun, and the system was running Novell, the balance of the evidence suggests it did in fact happen...)
It was a mountable filesystem that stored files by posting on /. as AC. Example:
/mnt/slash /mnt/slash/textdocument
/mnt/slash/textdocument
slashmount
cp textdocument
File "textdocument" would then be broken up into chunks of maybe 2500 characters, posted on slashdot as AC on the first story on the main page, and the comment UID recorded.
vi
Would then retrieve each post using the previously stored comment UIDs, merge them together in order, and spit back your original text file.
Completely pointless, but I thought it was a cool idea.
That looks seriously sweet. I don't have any experiance with ... umm.. ARGs, but is it US-only?
Daniel
Wasn't there an (unencripted) mountable filesystem that stored its data by posting as AC? (Can't find it at the mo...)
It actually applies in this case as well!
I kind of prefer to meme-that-almost-was:
In Korea, eating sushi is only for the eldery
I was thinking of that, in addition to a 3d environment. In an RPG or a squad-based strategy, being able to "talk" to your teammates would be awesome.
I never understood why they didn't just set in the ST universe, 1000 years fter the fall of the Federation. They'd have an existing fanbase and I know I'd watch it (shallow, I know). Different network, perhaps?
It's true that we need different terminologies for the different types of research and programs that are currently reffered to as AI.
Slightly off-topic, but it really annoys me when people describe Eliza and ALICE systems as "AI". I would prefer the term "pseudo-intelligence", and apply it to any situation where a computer pretends (perhaps through a pre-programmed interface, or throgh pre-programmed scripted commands) to be intelligent. (An example would be the mailer-daemon that tells you he's given up trying to post your message, and is sorry it didn't work out.)
The second broadly classifiable app that is erronenously termed AI is that kind of AI used in modern computer systems - games, self-correcting systems (OCR, TTS, etc.), and so on. Perhaps these have the best claim to the term AI, so we should leave them as AI? Or perhaps call them HA - heuristic algorythms. (Although computer games possibly dont count because the AI doesn't learn as it goes on.)
And now we come to what alot of people might call AI - intelligences, sch as HAL from 2001. Shall we take a page out of Deus Ex's book and call them electronic sentiences (ES?)
Jst my two cents...
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I do completely agree with you that building an intelligence may be possible, and I also completely agree that if it is possible to build an AI, we won't be able to control it or make it any way "useful" to us.
But as a *purely research* project, creating an AI would be an AWESOME achievement and would probably give us a greater understanding of sentience in the process. But your post implies we can do it, but aren't simply because it won't be useful to us.
(Deepest appologies if I've misinterpreted your post.)
Yes, but would it work?
This is kind off-topic (err, very off-topic) but something I've been thinking about for a fairly long time. Let's forget the reading a book example, and lets forget DARPA for a second, and just look at this guy's idea. It seems to me, it would be *very* useful in a compter game, where the world is not only highly-strctured, but also known to the computer program. I imagine a system that could map textual input ("Attack those guards") onto a list of expected sentance strctres (verb-pronoun-noun, corresponding to an order to (verb) the (nouns)). The AI would then carry out your instructions in the virtual world. This obviously wouldnt (at least, I don't think so) lead to AI of the HAL-2001 variety, but would make for very immersive and engaging computer games.
Whaddya think - plausable?
I'll be returning to Sager's page (which I only briefly scanned) in the future...
Hmm, sorry, it seems I was mistaken about the registry patch. It also seems MS claims the security tab is disabled in XP Home (I have Pro.), but despite this it is possible to get it working.
First of all, your filesystem must be NTFS, not FAT. That may make the "Enable SImple Filesharing" box appear, but if it doesn't, I have heard it appears when the computer is booted in safemode. Sorry I can't be of more help!
That you were evangelising to the coke-less?
I've heard that MS employees use linux from time to time
Actually, that makes a helluva lot of sense. Now if only they'd start using their own products so they know how crap they are...
If it's not on SF, at least put it on a website!
I, for one, would be very interested in this.
Tools -> Folder Options -> View -> Unlick "Enable Simple File Sharing (Reccomended)". (If its not there, you need to download a registry patch so it shows up.)
Damn annoying, but we've all been there. I'm in the process of upgrading to a linux home server right now, actually.
the first amendendment, AIUI, doesn't stop you from suing the hell out of the newspaper when they publish something which endangers your life.
Wont do much good if you're dead, though, will it?
American's really need an extended period under a really repressive dictator so they stop taking it for granted
Unfotunately, The Powers That Be have had the last 30 years (rougly since Vietnam) to perfect the science of manipulating public opinion. 50 years from now there could easily a dictater in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and the People, too high on MTV and Cable, would gladly report to thhe FBI anyone un-American enough to be a democrat-sympathiser.
I would argue that in order to be a good citizen, it is nessesary to vote for the party you believe will fulfull your needs the most. Always challenging the existing system in hopes of a better one, I believe is also an integral part of citizenship. As a previous poster said, the First Ammendment (and the others) are not universal rights, but principles which must be fought for at every opportunity.
Damn good show that, but I only caught a single episode. Any chance you could post the torrent site?
Sexism sucks either way
No argument from me there - you're completely right. What I meant was, it seems its ok for the networks to promote sexism against men, but not to promote sexism against women.
Of course, both are equally wrong.
there would be a gender-backlash the likes of which we have never seen
And that is what I hate about it most. It's not just sitcoms - take SitC, for example. If the rolse were gender reversed, it would be taken off the air within the hour.
Sexism, it seems, is ok when it's against men.
(Offtopic: What do you have against Friends?)
Hear, here. Well said.
/.)
(Another poster in this topic advocated the position that "they" don't need schools or primary education as they will all be farmers - I almost lost my temper. Good to see there is still common sense left on
They certainly don't need education when 99% of their futures and full-time jobs will be along the lines of 'farmer'.
And that is possibly the most biased, arrogant, ego-centric thing I have ever heard out of slashdot.
Something along the lines of "teach a man to fish" - they dont need computers, but they do need education.
(Grew up in an LDC - 12 years - for the record.)
This week, Bill Gates donates 100,000 dollars to help fight AIDs over the next 10 years. In other news, Bill Gates also donates 10 million dollars to help fight linux over the next ten years.
Bla bla. Above figures made up, etc. But you see my point?
Why must the computer be in a public area? I'd have thought it was the LAN admin's responsibility to ensure that no matter what they do on the inside of the LAN, it can't affect the network, and deffinately can't reach the Net. Just my 2 cents..