Hope they dont have to pay for roaming - the Iphone uses way more data than the BB
Well, if they do, it won't be a problem. They'll just buy a member of Congress to attach a rider to a bill for something like money for disabled children that will pay for their roaming charges, and it'll be called something like the "Freedom America Liberty Freedom Flag Act".
And, so, you're suggesting that the legal system/federal governments of the world enforce your right to buy a " a laptop that get over 5 hours of battery with a screen larger than 10" and a higher vertical resolution than 600px without windows pre-installed"?
They probably went to Apple because it was the most expensive. After all, Haliburton is funded through massive no-bid government contracts so hey, it's not their money!
Nobody's being forced to buy anything they don't want. A guy voluntarily purchased a laptop with Windows installed on it, and wanted to return part of what he bought.
Lenovo does not have a free choice. They can either refuse Microsoft's thuggish demands (do not sell linux or we will cut off all supplies of Windows to you), or they can give in to Microsoft's thuggish demands. They have no power.
- You have no idea if what you're saying it true or not. You're just making up a story to make a point.
- I really doubt that MS would cease selling Windows to Levono because Levono choose to sell some computers with blank hard drives.
Being dependent on an external company really is a risk.
No. being dependent on a company that one doesn't pay is a risk. Like you said yourself, hosting your own domain is no problem because if you don't like the service, you can complain or switch. The problem with Facebook is that the users are NOT the customers, they pay nothing, and as a result, have no support and no say in the quality of the service. Relying on a service that is "free" is truly risky (and horribly naive, as well).
I would've liked to see Windows Phones included in this article. I'm really curious how they measure up. I have yet to have anything crash since I got the phone a month ago.
Exchange may be hard to administer, but from an end user's point of view, there's nothing that comes close to it, and that's really the whole point of the software. Administrative costs would have to be many many multiples of what the currently are for companies to consider NOT using Exchange. As is, they're a cost of doing business.
True, but there's no precedent in the cell phone market for ever charging for OS updates, I'm pretty sure. I don't see any reason why they'd consider starting to do so now.
I think you're going to be waiting a long time. The price of these things without subsidization from the phone companies would be pretty damn high. Besides, I've got to imagine the demand for a phone without phone service has got to be pretty low.
Windows Phone is designed for business users. It's specialty is Exchange integration, and it does it pretty damn well. I think that MS is going to leave the toy phone market to Apple, and focus on the massive business user market, where people are not clamoring for bells and whistles and toys on their phones.
I think you're right. Using the current Windows 7.5 Phone, it's pretty clear that it's designed to integrate with Exchange (and it does it well). Home users don't know what Exchange is, but it's used in 70% of businesses worldwide. I think that people who want toys will stick with the iPhone, and maybe the Android stuff.
Unlike Apple, Windows doesn't really have a history of charging for anything but the largest OS updates. Windows Phone 7 to 7.5 was a free update, even though they were a full year apart.
If they're in the business to make money, then they're right. Find something that makes a little money, and duplicate it as many times as you can. There's really no reason to waste money innovating if they've already found a method to make money (for now, of course).
Find some way to make fresh water and you'll simultaneously stop multiple water based conflicts going on right now (Darfur) and become wealthy beyond belief.
It's naive to think that we have the kind of technology to fix massive ecological shifts. We're just barely able to measure them. If a significant ecosystem falls in the near future, we'll have widespread famine and war over resources. It could be said that's already happening.
This whole society needs a clue-by-four to snap them out of the delusion that warming is the end of the world and any more a threat to life than all the other environmental changes that have already killed 99% of all species that have ever existed.
It's a threat to HUMAN life, dolt. Nobody's arguing that the planet Earth is going to become a sterile rock floating through space.
I'm not worried, especially as humans have the technology to build closed systems for environmental control and resource production/management.
You're not worried because you're hopelessly naive.
"Modern" people are so out of touch with the natural world because everything they need comes wrapped in a nice plastic container to their doorstep right now. I really can't wait to see the collective looks on their collective smug faces when food and water start to become scarce due to collapsing ecosystems. "What do you mean I can't get a McFish sandwich because there are no more fish in the ocean?"
The problem with people today is that they are taught that we are living in The One True Sacred and Immutable Biosphere, and that if that biosphere changes, well, that's just the end of everything.
No, you're way off base. The Problem is that if this current biosphere changes radically, Homo Sapiens are gone.
I'm having a hard time figuring out how the investors expect to get their money out....
What are you talking about? That's what the IPO is for. The investors all get their big payoff, and the stupid general public gets worthless "shares" that'll never pay $0.01 in dividends. Anybody with a brain takes the money and runs.
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Hope they dont have to pay for roaming - the Iphone uses way more data than the BB
Well, if they do, it won't be a problem. They'll just buy a member of Congress to attach a rider to a bill for something like money for disabled children that will pay for their roaming charges, and it'll be called something like the "Freedom America Liberty Freedom Flag Act".
And, so, you're suggesting that the legal system/federal governments of the world enforce your right to buy a " a laptop that get over 5 hours of battery with a screen larger than 10" and a higher vertical resolution than 600px without windows pre-installed"?
What planet do you live on?
They probably went to Apple because it was the most expensive. After all, Haliburton is funded through massive no-bid government contracts so hey, it's not their money!
Haliburton IS the government. They make their own rules.
Nobody's being forced to buy anything they don't want. A guy voluntarily purchased a laptop with Windows installed on it, and wanted to return part of what he bought.
So in Europe, can you buy cars without tires?
Lenovo does not have a free choice. They can either refuse Microsoft's thuggish demands (do not sell linux or we will cut off all supplies of Windows to you), or they can give in to Microsoft's thuggish demands. They have no power.
- You have no idea if what you're saying it true or not. You're just making up a story to make a point.
- I really doubt that MS would cease selling Windows to Levono because Levono choose to sell some computers with blank hard drives.
Being dependent on an external company really is a risk.
No. being dependent on a company that one doesn't pay is a risk. Like you said yourself, hosting your own domain is no problem because if you don't like the service, you can complain or switch. The problem with Facebook is that the users are NOT the customers, they pay nothing, and as a result, have no support and no say in the quality of the service. Relying on a service that is "free" is truly risky (and horribly naive, as well).
if this thing shipped with Angry Birds on it, people would buy it and keep using it
Was this meant as a joke...?
I would've liked to see Windows Phones included in this article. I'm really curious how they measure up. I have yet to have anything crash since I got the phone a month ago.
Good luck with your startup. You're gonna need it with an attitude like that.
You know, just because a software update comes out doesn't mean you have to buy it. Older versions of MS Office still work just fine.
Exchange may be hard to administer, but from an end user's point of view, there's nothing that comes close to it, and that's really the whole point of the software. Administrative costs would have to be many many multiples of what the currently are for companies to consider NOT using Exchange. As is, they're a cost of doing business.
Ambiguity, when it comes to working with a litigious company, is not a good thing.
True, but there's no precedent in the cell phone market for ever charging for OS updates, I'm pretty sure. I don't see any reason why they'd consider starting to do so now.
I think you're going to be waiting a long time. The price of these things without subsidization from the phone companies would be pretty damn high. Besides, I've got to imagine the demand for a phone without phone service has got to be pretty low.
Windows Phone is designed for business users. It's specialty is Exchange integration, and it does it pretty damn well. I think that MS is going to leave the toy phone market to Apple, and focus on the massive business user market, where people are not clamoring for bells and whistles and toys on their phones.
I think you're right. Using the current Windows 7.5 Phone, it's pretty clear that it's designed to integrate with Exchange (and it does it well). Home users don't know what Exchange is, but it's used in 70% of businesses worldwide. I think that people who want toys will stick with the iPhone, and maybe the Android stuff.
Unlike Apple, Windows doesn't really have a history of charging for anything but the largest OS updates. Windows Phone 7 to 7.5 was a free update, even though they were a full year apart.
If they're in the business to make money, then they're right. Find something that makes a little money, and duplicate it as many times as you can. There's really no reason to waste money innovating if they've already found a method to make money (for now, of course).
Find some way to make fresh water and you'll simultaneously stop multiple water based conflicts going on right now (Darfur) and become wealthy beyond belief.
It's naive to think that we have the kind of technology to fix massive ecological shifts. We're just barely able to measure them. If a significant ecosystem falls in the near future, we'll have widespread famine and war over resources. It could be said that's already happening.
This whole society needs a clue-by-four to snap them out of the delusion that warming is the end of the world and any more a threat to life than all the other environmental changes that have already killed 99% of all species that have ever existed.
It's a threat to HUMAN life, dolt. Nobody's arguing that the planet Earth is going to become a sterile rock floating through space.
I'm not worried, especially as humans have the technology to build closed systems for environmental control and resource production/management.
You're not worried because you're hopelessly naive.
"Modern" people are so out of touch with the natural world because everything they need comes wrapped in a nice plastic container to their doorstep right now. I really can't wait to see the collective looks on their collective smug faces when food and water start to become scarce due to collapsing ecosystems. "What do you mean I can't get a McFish sandwich because there are no more fish in the ocean?"
The problem with people today is that they are taught that we are living in The One True Sacred and Immutable Biosphere, and that if that biosphere changes, well, that's just the end of everything.
No, you're way off base. The Problem is that if this current biosphere changes radically, Homo Sapiens are gone.
I'm having a hard time figuring out how the investors expect to get their money out....
What are you talking about? That's what the IPO is for. The investors all get their big payoff, and the stupid general public gets worthless "shares" that'll never pay $0.01 in dividends. Anybody with a brain takes the money and runs.