A chain of water locks going a few hundred meters high, is extremely impractical, on such a tight place. And if they tried that, we likely knew it from the remainings.
Actually, it is No the first amendment is not about "It is not a wild card to spread hate speech between citizens and citizens or citizens and immigrants."
Asking someone to shut up, is not censorship. I suggest to take a dictionary and check what censorship actually is. E.g. 'restrictions of free speech' is not censorship.
There are plenty of regions in Europe that sooner or later will separate from their current country and become independent, hopefully staying in the E.U. Catalonia, Basque, probably Mallorca (under catalan reign, but they hate that even more than the catalonians hate the rest of spain, because Catalonia forbids teaching of the native language in Mallorca, but insists they can teach their own native language in Catalonia). Probably Bavaria, most likely Scottland. Belgium might split into two, but a recent referendum voted for staying together. Brittany might seperate from France, probably Alsace or Loraine, too. But that is much more unlikely like separations going on in Spain and Italy.
Keep in mind, the Spain, a typical foreigner sees, does not exist. Spain is a patchwork Kingdom with minimum 5 distinct languages and 5 dialects that are so far of from Castilian Spanish that they can be considerd their own languahe, too.
Over the course of the next 50 years I expect a shift in balance from countries power into two directions: more power to the EU, and more power to the regions, at cost of the countries power.
then the government has to power to suppress any and all speech No, it has not. How do you come to that absurd idea?
I also think my ideas are better, and feel no need to prevent my opponent from speaking - let him! The more nay idiot who disagrees with me speaks, the more he'll embarrass himself. You can speak in privacy, what ever you want. You are just jot allowed to spread hate speech in public.
Get over it, we like it that way. Hence we keep the 70 year old laws.
Probably it will take another 100 years till they all have moved to the cloud.
Oh, you did not mean that cloud... my mistake.
Honestly: why would *I* move to the cloud? I have a laptop. Everything that is essential is on that laptop and on the backups. Why would I move to the cloud? So I have no access to my stuff in a plane, train? In a foreign country with absurd internet costs... or I have to buy a new sim card first and probably a new phone as my iPhone has no dual sims?
The only interesting part about clouds is storage for low GB phones. For real computers it is completely irrelevant except for data exchange via drop box and a like.
Both Linux and OSX are below 4% market share. Market share is not interesting.
Both Linux and Mac OS X has an install base far beyond 4%, on the desktop. Considering how many linux servers are out there, I doubt windows is even in the same magnitude.
1993, Slackware 0.x... (0.9?) Something like 18 3.5" disketts to install, then a boot loader, I did not dare to install it on the HD, so when I wanted to start linux I put in a floppy with LILO on it. Later however I installed LILO on the HD... however it defaulted to Win 3.11 (I hated it os much, but needed it for Symantec C++, I think it was still Zortech that time).
"And it shows the EU is falling apart, as in freedom is failing " We have those laws since the US imposed them on us. Which is about 70 years ago. I see no falling apart.
Is that a crime? Likely not, as it is not directed against minorities, religious, sexual, racial groups etc.
Also, is the message illegal to quote as an example? No, quoting something is not illegal. How retarded are you?
How can we have a reasonable discussion about what is a crime and what is not By discussing it? Hu? Again: how retarded are you?
You can discuss what ever you want, but you may not agitate for violence, deny the holocaust or war crimes etc. It is actually super simple, no idea why USAsians don't get the concept.
Facebook is a private venue, so the website owners have a right to accept your message Yes, they have the right to accept the message and the obligation, by law, to delete it.
No idea what is wrong with you.
Facebook is to be treated just like any newspaper or other publishing site. Perhaps you forgot that "the Washington post" or what ever other "web site" are also "private venues"... nevertheless they are obliged to obey the laws.
Bottom line if you make a closed user group and try to sell drugs... in the USA that would be a conspiracy. A closed user group to promote Nazi ideology would be tolerated in EU. But a public one not. And that has nothing at all to do with free speech.
An the majourity of europeans agree, that they should be crimes.
And we really have not much respect for people who believe otherwise.
You see? You think we are super stupid to have such laws and we think you are an immoral bastard for not having such laws and even more immoral for criticizing us (actually you have similar laws, you just are not aware about it).
The Kristallnacht happened in Germany, that is in Europe. Hence we Europeans find such laws morally superior to your laws.
What is so difficult in understanding: the EU has more or less the exact same free speech laws like the US. There are very few restrictions regarding hate speech.
USA has _similar restrictions_ regarding hate speech... they are just in different law book.
For your daily way of life there is no noticeable difference in EU or US treatment of citizens public posts.
I think articles like the one from the guardian are greatly exaggerated. Sure, heat waves caused deaths. However, not simply because of the heat but because of in appropriated behaviour or not taking proper action. First of all the temperatures mentioned are not as unbearable as the authors claim. Plenty of people lived without problems through such temperatures, e.g. in Spain, north Africa or Israel. You have to wear proper cloth, drink enough, shade your windows, e.g. by putting blankets in front of them, if you have no rolls. You can do simple things like putting your feet into cold water. If it is to humid to properly sweat, a fan (and yes, in the original sense of the word, a piece of paper waved by the hand) will help. You can put a wet towel on your face, or into your neck etc. However we meanwhile have plenty of cheap solar powered small fans. I guess most people don't know what to do, so there is an unnecessary death toll. Plenty of things can be done with architecture. Classical arabic and persian (and indian) buildings made from clay, basically have air conditioning build in. It is pretty idiotic to copy western building styles with large window fronts when you can not afford AC.
You have to understand their thought process: where on Mars would you place the first city/settlement? Likely into the desert at the equator, provided you get/find some water over there.
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Actually they used ramps (made from sand)
A chain of water locks going a few hundred meters high, is extremely impractical, on such a tight place.
And if they tried that, we likely knew it from the remainings.
Actually, it is
No the first amendment is not about "It is not a wild card to spread hate speech between citizens and citizens or citizens and immigrants."
Asking someone to shut up, is not censorship.
I suggest to take a dictionary and check what censorship actually is.
E.g. 'restrictions of free speech' is not censorship.
This 'new fullscreen' behaviour is a complete mess.
Only an complete idiot could have invented that and an even bigger moron approved it.
Erm, you got it a bit backward :)
The same companie doing designs for Apple also did for Braun and Porsche: 'Frog Design'.
There are plenty of regions in Europe that sooner or later will separate from their current country and become independent, hopefully staying in the E.U.
Catalonia, Basque, probably Mallorca (under catalan reign, but they hate that even more than the catalonians hate the rest of spain, because Catalonia forbids teaching of the native language in Mallorca, but insists they can teach their own native language in Catalonia).
Probably Bavaria, most likely Scottland.
Belgium might split into two, but a recent referendum voted for staying together.
Brittany might seperate from France, probably Alsace or Loraine, too. But that is much more unlikely like separations going on in Spain and Italy.
Keep in mind, the Spain, a typical foreigner sees, does not exist. Spain is a patchwork Kingdom with minimum 5 distinct languages and 5 dialects that are so far of from Castilian Spanish that they can be considerd their own languahe, too.
Over the course of the next 50 years I expect a shift in balance from countries power into two directions: more power to the EU, and more power to the regions, at cost of the countries power.
And ... we learn our relaxed views because we start sipping wine with 14 to 16, and can have a beer at the evening, too!
It is not much discussed in the media, but people watch it eagerly like they watched the Scotland vote for secession from the UK a few years back.
then the government has to power to suppress any and all speech
No, it has not.
How do you come to that absurd idea?
I also think my ideas are better, and feel no need to prevent my opponent from speaking - let him! The more nay idiot who disagrees with me speaks, the more he'll embarrass himself.
You can speak in privacy, what ever you want.
You are just jot allowed to spread hate speech in public.
Get over it, we like it that way. Hence we keep the 70 year old laws.
The majourity of the world servers? Hello? In what wold do you live?
In my world all servers run *n*x or are mainframes.
Even the microsoft cloud mostly runs Linux ...
Macs don't upgrade behind the scene.
They ask, you say yes or no.
The planet has 7 - 8 billion people.
Probably it will take another 100 years till they all have moved to the cloud.
Oh, you did not mean that cloud ... my mistake.
Honestly: why would *I* move to the cloud? I have a laptop. Everything that is essential is on that laptop and on the backups. Why would I move to the cloud? So I have no access to my stuff in a plane, train? In a foreign country with absurd internet costs ... or I have to buy a new sim card first and probably a new phone as my iPhone has no dual sims?
The only interesting part about clouds is storage for low GB phones. For real computers it is completely irrelevant except for data exchange via drop box and a like.
Both Linux and OSX are below 4% market share.
Market share is not interesting.
Both Linux and Mac OS X has an install base far beyond 4%, on the desktop. Considering how many linux servers are out there, I doubt windows is even in the same magnitude.
1993, Slackware 0.x ... (0.9?) ... however it defaulted to Win 3.11 (I hated it os much, but needed it for Symantec C++, I think it was still Zortech that time).
Something like 18 3.5" disketts to install, then a boot loader, I did not dare to install it on the HD, so when I wanted to start linux I put in a floppy with LILO on it. Later however I installed LILO on the HD
"And it shows the EU is falling apart, as in freedom is failing "
We have those laws since the US imposed them on us. Which is about 70 years ago.
I see no falling apart.
Is that a crime?
Likely not, as it is not directed against minorities, religious, sexual, racial groups etc.
Also, is the message illegal to quote as an example?
No, quoting something is not illegal. How retarded are you?
How can we have a reasonable discussion about what is a crime and what is not
By discussing it?
Hu? Again: how retarded are you?
You can discuss what ever you want, but you may not agitate for violence, deny the holocaust or war crimes etc. It is actually super simple, no idea why USAsians don't get the concept.
Facebook is a private venue, so the website owners have a right to accept your message
Yes, they have the right to accept the message and the obligation, by law, to delete it.
No idea what is wrong with you.
Facebook is to be treated just like any newspaper or other publishing site. Perhaps you forgot that "the Washington post" or what ever other "web site" are also "private venues" ... nevertheless they are obliged to obey the laws.
Bottom line if you make a closed user group and try to sell drugs ... in the USA that would be a conspiracy.
A closed user group to promote Nazi ideology would be tolerated in EU. But a public one not. And that has nothing at all to do with free speech.
Free speech is a contract between government and its citizens.
The citizens can freely discuss and object the government.
It is not a wild card to spread hate speech between citizens and citizens or citizens and immigrants.
Get the difference ... or stay out of discussion.
But you are also not arguing to prevent it.
You would happily let it happen again and try to catch the criminals later.
They are crimes.
Plain and simple.
An the majourity of europeans agree, that they should be crimes.
And we really have not much respect for people who believe otherwise.
You see? You think we are super stupid to have such laws and we think you are an immoral bastard for not having such laws and even more immoral for criticizing us (actually you have similar laws, you just are not aware about it).
The Kristallnacht happened in Germany, that is in Europe. Hence we Europeans find such laws morally superior to your laws.
I can by text books from anywhere on the world.
Why can't you?
What is so difficult in understanding: the EU has more or less the exact same free speech laws like the US.
There are very few restrictions regarding hate speech.
USA has _similar restrictions_ regarding hate speech ... they are just in different law book.
For your daily way of life there is no noticeable difference in EU or US treatment of citizens public posts.
Standing in front of a Jewish shop and shouting: 'Death to all Jews!' is a crime.
Writing the same thing on facebook is a crime, too.
What exactly is your point?
Last sunday we had elections in Germany.
A relatively new right wing radical party won about 10% of the seats.
I would not call that a few.
I think articles like the one from the guardian are greatly exaggerated.
Sure, heat waves caused deaths. However, not simply because of the heat but because of in appropriated behaviour or not taking proper action.
First of all the temperatures mentioned are not as unbearable as the authors claim. Plenty of people lived without problems through such temperatures, e.g. in Spain, north Africa or Israel.
You have to wear proper cloth, drink enough, shade your windows, e.g. by putting blankets in front of them, if you have no rolls. You can do simple things like putting your feet into cold water.
If it is to humid to properly sweat, a fan (and yes, in the original sense of the word, a piece of paper waved by the hand) will help. You can put a wet towel on your face, or into your neck etc. However we meanwhile have plenty of cheap solar powered small fans.
I guess most people don't know what to do, so there is an unnecessary death toll.
Plenty of things can be done with architecture. Classical arabic and persian (and indian) buildings made from clay, basically have air conditioning build in. It is pretty idiotic to copy western building styles with large window fronts when you can not afford AC.
Around the equator during 'summer' at day time, temperatures go up to +20C (on Mars).
You have to understand their thought process: where on Mars would you place the first city/settlement?
Likely into the desert at the equator, provided you get/find some water over there.
Dubai is close to the equator in the desert ...