Before I get slammed...hear me out. I am a Debian user. I love Open Source and Linux. However, my wife didn't catch the Linux bug. However, after bitching up a storm about her Windows XP laptop she agreed to let me get her a MAC iBook.
Two months later she's still Spyware and Virus free.
My point....Linux isn't for everyone, but there are alternatives (as we all know). I was thrilled to get my wife hooked on her MAC. Now she won't put it down!
Did I mention that we still have no Spyware or Viruses? Oh...OK, I did.
Now the Evil Google Empire will fall because their BETA software isn't ready for prime time. Good thing Microsoft releases such clean beta software. Probably why they are so successful.
You have not heard of Lycoris before because they are indeed not a major Linux player. I used them for a while, but the hardware support was lacking. Amazingly enough, their product had a strikingly similar look and feel to WindowsXP, but it never took off. When I did side-consulting, I tried to get about fifty of my customers who were looking at new computers to try Lycoris. forth-eight of them said "No" after taking it for a test drive. While it looked like Windows, it wasn't Windows, and that was what they wanted on their desktops. Sure...they bought a lot of Linux servers from me, but the desktops remained Windows.
I think the problem at Microsoft is that they are trying to be all things to all people. Anti-Spyway, OS, Xbox, Browsers, applications, etc, etc. SUN tired this and got away from what they were good at...Solaris and Servers. MS needs to evaluate what they are really good at, and stick to that.
This isn't funny as it has resulted in more than one person being terminated because of what was called "inappropriate" material (meaning someone COULD have taken offense to it. Remember...Charlie is Watching!
OK...I see your point, and it is well taken. For me, I have three kids and we're on a single income. For me, the best thing is just to pay for my downloads. If someone else wants to do something else, I'm OK with that...if it works for you, that is fine with me.
For me it comes down to one thing...iTunes subscription ensures I'll not end up on the wrong end of a lawsuit. I can't afford the fines, and I'm not interested in trying to dodge getting caught. Not worth the risk for me.
I consider SSH to be a VITAL part of the tool package I rely on. SCP is the other. Whether this story is old or not, I'll wish them happy birthday...who cares if it is a dupe.
No...I think Red Hat did the right thing for them. My question really focuses around the backlash they had from a lot of individual users and the Open Source community when they did that. Once Fedora became the rock that it is, things settled down.
This is a "I'm just wondering" type of question. I use both RH EL 4 and Fedora Core (one at work, one at home).
Red Hat pissed a lot of people off by killing off their "junior" releases (Red Hat 8.0, 9.0, etc.) and I know a lot of businesses that dumped them in favor of other distros.
I like Fedora, but what I am wondering is if they would have gone about killing off the other versions like they did the same way, or would they have gently migrated people over to Fedora.
I can rush out now and subscribe to AOL. I was just waiting for them to support open source. I'll be the first guy in my lug to have an AOL address. I rock.
Europe can fall behind if they want to. The rest of the world is progressing, and I find it absolutely ironic that Linux was born in Europe, SuSE was born in Europe, Mandrake / Mandriva was born in Europe and MySQL was born in Europe. I'm sure there is a lot more, but the point here is that Europe is going to have to see the light sooner rather than later, and Perhaps Munich & Berlin will be a good place to start.
Agreed. StorageTek makes some of the best storage hardware in the world. I'm a long-time STK believer. That is exactly why I hope this will put SUN in the light they need to be in, because I am also a SUN fan.
I knew it would happen eventually, but I thought it would be more like EMC as they have a full suite of disk and software already. Sun OEM's their storage software, and their storage hardware has been OEM'd from Quantum and LSI Logic for some time.
I hope this will help bring them back...SUN is a good company with a great past.
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Before I get slammed...hear me out. I am a Debian user. I love Open Source and Linux. However, my wife didn't catch the Linux bug. However, after bitching up a storm about her Windows XP laptop she agreed to let me get her a MAC iBook. Two months later she's still Spyware and Virus free. My point....Linux isn't for everyone, but there are alternatives (as we all know). I was thrilled to get my wife hooked on her MAC. Now she won't put it down! Did I mention that we still have no Spyware or Viruses? Oh...OK, I did.
Don't post as an anonymous coward. This was a great post, and you're right on the money. Good on ya!
M$ creates Spyware tool, then buys the biggest offender of Spyware. Does this mean they will detect and remove themselves?
Command Line administration shown to be faster than GUI.
Dvorak finding something negative with Microsoft? It is truly the end of times.
Now the Evil Google Empire will fall because their BETA software isn't ready for prime time. Good thing Microsoft releases such clean beta software. Probably why they are so successful.
You have not heard of Lycoris before because they are indeed not a major Linux player. I used them for a while, but the hardware support was lacking. Amazingly enough, their product had a strikingly similar look and feel to WindowsXP, but it never took off. When I did side-consulting, I tried to get about fifty of my customers who were looking at new computers to try Lycoris. forth-eight of them said "No" after taking it for a test drive. While it looked like Windows, it wasn't Windows, and that was what they wanted on their desktops. Sure...they bought a lot of Linux servers from me, but the desktops remained Windows.
There are enough Music sites...why do they think they need to add to the mix?
Maybe now that it is on Slashdot, she'll believe me.
I think the problem at Microsoft is that they are trying to be all things to all people. Anti-Spyway, OS, Xbox, Browsers, applications, etc, etc. SUN tired this and got away from what they were good at...Solaris and Servers. MS needs to evaluate what they are really good at, and stick to that.
This isn't funny as it has resulted in more than one person being terminated because of what was called "inappropriate" material (meaning someone COULD have taken offense to it. Remember...Charlie is Watching!
OK...I see your point, and it is well taken. For me, I have three kids and we're on a single income. For me, the best thing is just to pay for my downloads. If someone else wants to do something else, I'm OK with that...if it works for you, that is fine with me.
When I don't want the whole album, why drive when I can legally download what I want?
For me it comes down to one thing...iTunes subscription ensures I'll not end up on the wrong end of a lawsuit. I can't afford the fines, and I'm not interested in trying to dodge getting caught. Not worth the risk for me.
If you had a product like Interstructures you'd get by with your Windoze guys.
http://www.interstructures.com/
I consider SSH to be a VITAL part of the tool package I rely on. SCP is the other. Whether this story is old or not, I'll wish them happy birthday...who cares if it is a dupe.
No...I think Red Hat did the right thing for them. My question really focuses around the backlash they had from a lot of individual users and the Open Source community when they did that. Once Fedora became the rock that it is, things settled down.
This is a "I'm just wondering" type of question. I use both RH EL 4 and Fedora Core (one at work, one at home).
I should clarify...
Red Hat pissed a lot of people off by killing off their "junior" releases (Red Hat 8.0, 9.0, etc.) and I know a lot of businesses that dumped them in favor of other distros.
I like Fedora, but what I am wondering is if they would have gone about killing off the other versions like they did the same way, or would they have gently migrated people over to Fedora.
Just curious...that's all.
I wonder what lessons, if any, Red Hat has learned from the past two years, and if they would do it all over again?
I see this as likely as Microsoft making Longhorn Open Source.
I can rush out now and subscribe to AOL. I was just waiting for them to support open source. I'll be the first guy in my lug to have an AOL address. I rock.
Europe can fall behind if they want to. The rest of the world is progressing, and I find it absolutely ironic that Linux was born in Europe, SuSE was born in Europe, Mandrake / Mandriva was born in Europe and MySQL was born in Europe. I'm sure there is a lot more, but the point here is that Europe is going to have to see the light sooner rather than later, and Perhaps Munich & Berlin will be a good place to start.
Agreed. StorageTek makes some of the best storage hardware in the world. I'm a long-time STK believer. That is exactly why I hope this will put SUN in the light they need to be in, because I am also a SUN fan.
I knew it would happen eventually, but I thought it would be more like EMC as they have a full suite of disk and software already. Sun OEM's their storage software, and their storage hardware has been OEM'd from Quantum and LSI Logic for some time.
I hope this will help bring them back...SUN is a good company with a great past.
How about "removable teath" plugin.