Depending on how long you're keeping them around, LVM Snapshots are likely to be a bad choice anyway. Their intended use-case is to have a very short lifespan, because they're intended to be used like so:
1. Create snapshot
2. Mount snapshot & copy data to backup server
3. Unmount & destroy snapshot
The point behind them is to create an unchanging version of a live partition so that you can copy the data out without worrying about whether it is being updated while you copy. Since the snapshots keep a diff of all changes to the original volume, they continue to grow in size as you make changes to the original volume. When the snapshot runs out of space, it simply dies (completely... can't mount it or anything, just have to destroy it).
There are some other possibly valid use-cases (e.g., if you have simple throw-away virtual test machines, you can build a gold image, and snapshot it and then mount & use the snapshot, which allows for a quick restore to the gold state), but keeping iterative backup copies on the local volume for quick restoration isn't really the best idea.
Wikipedia suggests that this was misrepresented in the media, and the linked reference appears to cite copious references itself (I will admit to not caring quite enough to follow through on those references):
If you have a support subscription for the relevant product, the answer is either "On Red Hat Network" or "Available via snail mail", which is in accordance with the GPL. Also, I assume you mean RHEV, not RHVE (since no product by that acronym is sold by Red Hat), and some parts of its licensing may be closed, since it is based on software recently acquired from another company (similar to the state Red Hat Directory Server was in until the release of RHDS 8). Although the parent seems to have only been talking about RHEL, being potentially unaware that Red Hat has other products.
Sure, any one of those things, no problem, but his previous conviction combined with 1, 2, and 3 are enough that without some fairly strong exonerating evidence I'd vote to convict if I were on the jury."
This is why trials by a "jury of one's peers" is so utterly flawed. Anyone who would use "Just look at him!" as a factor in deciding a conviction should not be serving on a jury.
Of course, if you run a maintained version of any Enterprise Linux I'd put good bets down that they'll be patched shortly. If you spun your own distro, then you made the choice to maintain it yourself anyway.
If you're installing with a net connection, you can check "Updates" when selecting software repositories and Fedora will be installed with the latest updates, right out of the update repos. Saves you from the potential vulnerability window while you run 'yum update' after install.
To be fair, they don't worship Star Wars, they follow the principles embodied in the Jedi code. Which is a stew of ideas stemming from a variety of real religions/moral codes, including Animism, Buddhism, Taoism, and Chivalry.
Necromancy [Fear, Evil, Mind-Affecting] Level: Lawyer 5 Components: V, S, M Casting Time: 1 day Range: 12,800 kilometers Targets: up to eight D&D players Duration: Instantaneous Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes
You ensnare the targets in a vast machine of red tape, legalese and procedures. The target feels compelled to pay you 1d10 x 1000 gp per caster level. If the target succeeds at his will save, he navigates the red tape and is not affected. The target is then free to return to his mother's basement.
Material Components: a large amount of money and a Legal team
"I'm sorry but is that the judo christian God, or the god that BSG actually used?"
I didn't know judo christians had a different god than regular christians! What belt do you have to earn before they tell you about judo christian god?
Well, RHEL also mantains a stable kABI within the entire major release, and only rebases packages when absolutely necessary (maintaining most library ABIs as well). For example, RHEL 4 ships apache 2.0.52, and has since launch. Security and bug fixes are backported, but the fundamental behavior remains the same for any instance of RHEL 4. This is also true of libraries.
This means that a given piece of 3rd-party software is more likely to keep working after an update in RHEL than in Fedora.
It seems to me you're just arguing a semantic point, so I'll return fire with the same. It's really the definition of "who qualifies as a person" that has varied over time, not the essential meaning of democracy.
I wish I had mod points with which to mod you up. This is NOT a bug, and a few RHEL test machines I have here updated just fine, keeping their zone files as expected.
Of course, in the case of HD radio you've just converted to analog, gone down a potentially noisy/lossy line and then converted back to digital again. Essentially, you just lost the 'HD' in your HD Radio signal:P
Having worked extensively (for profit, on commission, even) in the hell that is LSL, let me add some comments:
First, some decent off-world tools do exist to make the experience less painful. We can get a semblance of code reuse with lslmake, which allows C preprocessor macros in an lsl file (think headers). So, you can build up a library of common functions and keep them in header files, then "compile" real, usable lsl files that you copy into Second Life. It's clunky, but it works.
The language has some neat ideas going for it, though... they just need to be expanded on. Having an event-based structure makes sense in a virtual world-style environment, and the 'state' structure makes it really easy to model a chunk of code as a FSM. If all of that was encapsulated by some kind of objects (or at least ADTs, or, I dunno, maybe some fscking ARRAYs), I would have been much happier with the language, but oh well.
Grandparent post didn't make any argument that the names were good or descriptive, he said they were not doublespeak. "OPENXML" implies it is an open standard where it is not. Doublespeak.
By contrast, "Adobe Acrobat Reader" is an example of a bad name... I, for one, don't really want to read any acrobats, they might find it rude.;)
In all seriousness, the name "Internet Explorer" has always bothered me. It can only explore the Web and occasionally FTP servers - only a portion of the Internet. But I digress...
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Depending on how long you're keeping them around, LVM Snapshots are likely to be a bad choice anyway. Their intended use-case is to have a very short lifespan, because they're intended to be used like so:
1. Create snapshot
2. Mount snapshot & copy data to backup server
3. Unmount & destroy snapshot
The point behind them is to create an unchanging version of a live partition so that you can copy the data out without worrying about whether it is being updated while you copy. Since the snapshots keep a diff of all changes to the original volume, they continue to grow in size as you make changes to the original volume. When the snapshot runs out of space, it simply dies (completely... can't mount it or anything, just have to destroy it).
There are some other possibly valid use-cases (e.g., if you have simple throw-away virtual test machines, you can build a gold image, and snapshot it and then mount & use the snapshot, which allows for a quick restore to the gold state), but keeping iterative backup copies on the local volume for quick restoration isn't really the best idea.
There's also a 4d space shooter, adanaxisgpl: http://www.mushware.com/
Wikipedia suggests that this was misrepresented in the media, and the linked reference appears to cite copious references itself (I will admit to not caring quite enough to follow through on those references):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Richardson_Haimes
[citation needed]
If you have a support subscription for the relevant product, the answer is either "On Red Hat Network" or "Available via snail mail", which is in accordance with the GPL. Also, I assume you mean RHEV, not RHVE (since no product by that acronym is sold by Red Hat), and some parts of its licensing may be closed, since it is based on software recently acquired from another company (similar to the state Red Hat Directory Server was in until the release of RHDS 8). Although the parent seems to have only been talking about RHEL, being potentially unaware that Red Hat has other products.
Something a bit like this?
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/
"3. Look at the fucking guy, Jesus Christ.
Sure, any one of those things, no problem, but his previous conviction combined with 1, 2, and 3 are enough that without some fairly strong exonerating evidence I'd vote to convict if I were on the jury."
This is why trials by a "jury of one's peers" is so utterly flawed. Anyone who would use "Just look at him!" as a factor in deciding a conviction should not be serving on a jury.
Seriously, I couldn't read the article... every time they wrote 'auroch' instead of 'aurochs', I cringed a little.
The RHEL patch was released yesterday: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1548.html
If you're installing with a net connection, you can check "Updates" when selecting software repositories and Fedora will be installed with the latest updates, right out of the update repos. Saves you from the potential vulnerability window while you run 'yum update' after install.
In 1984, citizens were encouraged to spy on each other and report possible dissidents to the authorities. So yes, this is very Orwellian.
RTFN
"The people who claim they are doing homebrew, versus those who actually do is statistically non-existent."
I'm non-existent? Man, what a downer.
To be fair, they don't worship Star Wars, they follow the principles embodied in the Jedi code. Which is a stew of ideas stemming from a variety of real religions/moral codes, including Animism, Buddhism, Taoism, and Chivalry.
Actually, studies suggest that DARE has no long-term effects on drug use: http://www.apa.org/releases/dare.html
"Legal teams aren't consumed when you use them"
Clearly, we do things differently.
Necromancy [Fear, Evil, Mind-Affecting]
Level: Lawyer 5
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 day
Range: 12,800 kilometers
Targets: up to eight D&D players
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes
You ensnare the targets in a vast machine of red tape, legalese and procedures. The target feels compelled to pay you 1d10 x 1000 gp per caster level. If the target succeeds at his will save, he navigates the red tape and is not affected. The target is then free to return to his mother's basement.
Material Components: a large amount of money and a Legal team
"I'm sorry but is that the judo christian God, or the god that BSG actually used?"
I didn't know judo christians had a different god than regular christians! What belt do you have to earn before they tell you about judo christian god?
I'll take the flame-bait.
Tell that to all the companies running Linux for mission-critical services: Amazon, Google, Wikipedia, Slashdot, cripes, *most of the friggin' web*...
Your statement is about 10 years out of date, at least.
Well, RHEL also mantains a stable kABI within the entire major release, and only rebases packages when absolutely necessary (maintaining most library ABIs as well). For example, RHEL 4 ships apache 2.0.52, and has since launch. Security and bug fixes are backported, but the fundamental behavior remains the same for any instance of RHEL 4. This is also true of libraries.
This means that a given piece of 3rd-party software is more likely to keep working after an update in RHEL than in Fedora.
It seems to me you're just arguing a semantic point, so I'll return fire with the same. It's really the definition of "who qualifies as a person" that has varied over time, not the essential meaning of democracy.
Well, this proves it again, by making Java so hard to install, Linux avoided yet another threat.
Your joke is about a year late... fedora 8 and 9 even have java installed by default.
Nice try though.
In fairness, the browser plugin requires you to 'yum install (openjdk|icedtea)-plugin'. But, still, not that hard...
I wish I had mod points with which to mod you up. This is NOT a bug, and a few RHEL test machines I have here updated just fine, keeping their zone files as expected.
Of course, in the case of HD radio you've just converted to analog, gone down a potentially noisy/lossy line and then converted back to digital again. Essentially, you just lost the 'HD' in your HD Radio signal :P
Having worked extensively (for profit, on commission, even) in the hell that is LSL, let me add some comments:
First, some decent off-world tools do exist to make the experience less painful. We can get a semblance of code reuse with lslmake, which allows C preprocessor macros in an lsl file (think headers). So, you can build up a library of common functions and keep them in header files, then "compile" real, usable lsl files that you copy into Second Life. It's clunky, but it works.
The language has some neat ideas going for it, though... they just need to be expanded on. Having an event-based structure makes sense in a virtual world-style environment, and the 'state' structure makes it really easy to model a chunk of code as a FSM. If all of that was encapsulated by some kind of objects (or at least ADTs, or, I dunno, maybe some fscking ARRAYs), I would have been much happier with the language, but oh well.
Gods forgive me for posting on slashdot again...
;)
Grandparent post didn't make any argument that the names were good or descriptive, he said they were not doublespeak. "OPENXML" implies it is an open standard where it is not. Doublespeak.
By contrast, "Adobe Acrobat Reader" is an example of a bad name... I, for one, don't really want to read any acrobats, they might find it rude.
In all seriousness, the name "Internet Explorer" has always bothered me. It can only explore the Web and occasionally FTP servers - only a portion of the Internet. But I digress...