Where's the article?? It's just two short blog entries between two guys arguing over an issue. How is that news or "stuff that matters"? It's almost like reading two headlines. This has a feel of high school.
Except that these two highschool girls talk in the name of two pretty large OSS projects, and thus are in the interrest of 'News for nerds'...
Any company funding this is probably going to want patents. Maybe that's NASA's plan: convince researchers who want to take the prize home themselves to try this with company funding, give the prize to the researchers, license the patent from the company at a cost lower than doing the work themselves, leave the company to make money from other commercial spacefaring entities. It could work...
For something that they can/will depend on this heavily, it seems rather silly to take into account that another company will have the patents... it makes you dependable of that company, which is never ever a good thing.
perhaps I'm an idiot (and that is MORE than likely) but is chasing IPs an accurate way to find p2p &.torrent users? The reason I ask is something that happened this week. Our DSL modem was not working properly and while waiting for the techs to fix it we used our neighbor's wifi (unsecured, bless their innocent little hearts) to surf the web. Thereby doing whatever we were doing, on an IP acquired in someone else's name.
I don't know how it is done in the USA, but over here (.nl), you are fully responsible for what happends with your connection... so if you have an insecure connection, and other people are doing stuff with it, you are responsible for the things they do... it is your connection.
Are but the torrent files do they actually in fringe copyright??
It isn't the.torrent files they're talking about, it's the actual torrent data. They're probably just joining a tracker, and see which ip addresses try to contact their host... not sure if it is enough proof in court, but I can still see they're not scared of this indeed.
Yes, research in a field otherwise not really (directly) profitable for commercial applications, is now done by the US government... like the summary says, this could have a good impact on search algorithms.
I don't agree with you. If everything is part of the public, doesn't the public benefit from it?
There would be no incentive to create something new for a living, since you can't make a living off it. Sure, it would be a perfect ideal to have everything for free, but communism didn't work...
Also, I do not think that an artist should have total control how his work is distributed. I think that the society should decide how he should be able to control it. Actually, that's the case today, but I do not think that the copyright laws express the public opinion.
Everyone is selfish. Everyone wants what's best for him, so if you let the public decide what they want, they decide what's best for them, not what's the most fair.
That's stupid. That will mean anything anyone creates is part of the public. Sure, copyright laws can be a pain in the ass, but if you look at it rationally, if someone who creates something (say, for example, a musician) wants money for it, what right do we have to claim it as ours for free ?
Microsoft marketing, if you're reading this, these marketing ploys just make you look pathetic.
Remember, it only looks pathetic to the people who know their geeky stuff, and well, it's not like those kind of people are really influenced by those marketing ploys...
Some people spend 10 hours tweaking compiler settings and optimizations to get an extra 5% performance from their code.
Other people spend 2 hours selecting the proper algorithm in the first place and get an extra 500% performance from their code.
True, true... but still, you need a compiler to optimize your code. I find it a blessing that my compiler finds out the best way to inline certain functions for me, that i can just define a function as 'const' when it is const to provide the compiler with information to optimize with, etc etc...
Sure, you might not need compiler optimizations, but to be bugged with compiler optimizations is just silly...
Or it does? GPL requires to release "source code", but this is defined as "the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it". That might include the CVS logs, if they're necessary to make further changes, as it seems to be the case.
If they want CVS logs, they should have specified it. How is a third party supposed to know what the developers want ?
What I'm afraid of is that it might lead to barrage of useless links popping up here hoping to lure some of us so that he can get paid, just like spam.
I'm pretty sure the Slashdot editors are fully capable of noticing and dealing with the problem if the doom scenario you describe actually occurs...
What do you mean USED to?
netsol is still the worst.
I think that at the point you cannot actually administer your domains, you've just made yourself familliar with a domain registar that's worse than netsol...
Why? GnomeMeeting [gnomemeeting.org] is compatible with Netmeeting on Windows (both use the H.323 protocoll). You can just use that.
Yes, but it isn't MSN. The windows people are used to using MSN for their webcam conversations, which isn't going to change when some geeky geek says 'you should use netmeeting, because blah blah blah'.
Reverse engineering is the way to go in this case, and I'm glad someone finally used his skills and took the effort to actually do that.
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The parent I replied to, didn't know what BitKeeper was, I could have said 'yes, it is something like CVS', I could also just point him to a resource of information about it...
Sorry for trying to help, to put actual useful information in these comments... next time I'll bash Microsoft again.
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Where's the article?? It's just two short blog entries between two guys arguing over an issue. How is that news or "stuff that matters"? It's almost like reading two headlines. This has a feel of high school.
Except that these two highschool girls talk in the name of two pretty large OSS projects, and thus are in the interrest of 'News for nerds' ...
Any company funding this is probably going to want patents. Maybe that's NASA's plan: convince researchers who want to take the prize home themselves to try this with company funding, give the prize to the researchers, license the patent from the company at a cost lower than doing the work themselves, leave the company to make money from other commercial spacefaring entities. It could work...
For something that they can/will depend on this heavily, it seems rather silly to take into account that another company will have the patents... it makes you dependable of that company, which is never ever a good thing.
perhaps I'm an idiot (and that is MORE than likely) but is chasing IPs an accurate way to find p2p & .torrent users? The reason I ask is something that happened this week. Our DSL modem was not working properly and while waiting for the techs to fix it we used our neighbor's wifi (unsecured, bless their innocent little hearts) to surf the web. Thereby doing whatever we were doing, on an IP acquired in someone else's name.
I don't know how it is done in the USA, but over here (.nl), you are fully responsible for what happends with your connection... so if you have an insecure connection, and other people are doing stuff with it, you are responsible for the things they do... it is your connection.
I may be wrong, but isn't it the UPLOADER (distributer) that is commiting the offence?
Then they should just connect to a tracker and see what pieces other hosts have made available, and record their ip's...
Are but the torrent files do they actually in fringe copyright??
It isn't the .torrent files they're talking about, it's the actual torrent data. They're probably just joining a tracker, and see which ip addresses try to contact their host... not sure if it is enough proof in court, but I can still see they're not scared of this indeed.
Yeah, might as well have linked to the actual site, a lot less ugly...
is this going to do us any good?
Yes, research in a field otherwise not really (directly) profitable for commercial applications, is now done by the US government... like the summary says, this could have a good impact on search algorithms.
I don't agree with you. If everything is part of the public, doesn't the public benefit from it?
There would be no incentive to create something new for a living, since you can't make a living off it. Sure, it would be a perfect ideal to have everything for free, but communism didn't work...
Also, I do not think that an artist should have total control how his work is distributed. I think that the society should decide how he should be able to control it. Actually, that's the case today, but I do not think that the copyright laws express the public opinion.
Everyone is selfish. Everyone wants what's best for him, so if you let the public decide what they want, they decide what's best for them, not what's the most fair.
I don't want any form of copyright laws .
That's stupid. That will mean anything anyone creates is part of the public. Sure, copyright laws can be a pain in the ass, but if you look at it rationally, if someone who creates something (say, for example, a musician) wants money for it, what right do we have to claim it as ours for free ?
Microsoft marketing, if you're reading this, these marketing ploys just make you look pathetic.
Remember, it only looks pathetic to the people who know their geeky stuff, and well, it's not like those kind of people are really influenced by those marketing ploys...
Some people spend 10 hours tweaking compiler settings and optimizations to get an extra 5% performance from their code.
Other people spend 2 hours selecting the proper algorithm in the first place and get an extra 500% performance from their code.
True, true... but still, you need a compiler to optimize your code. I find it a blessing that my compiler finds out the best way to inline certain functions for me, that i can just define a function as 'const' when it is const to provide the compiler with information to optimize with, etc etc...
Sure, you might not need compiler optimizations, but to be bugged with compiler optimizations is just silly...
Or it does? GPL requires to release "source code", but this is defined as "the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it". That might include the CVS logs, if they're necessary to make further changes, as it seems to be the case.
If they want CVS logs, they should have specified it. How is a third party supposed to know what the developers want ?
... or they're using the cryptophone...
If I understand it correctly, that telephone uses a sort of ssh-like connection for normal calls... sounds pretty cool :)
What I'm afraid of is that it might lead to barrage of useless links popping up here hoping to lure some of us so that he can get paid, just like spam.
I'm pretty sure the Slashdot editors are fully capable of noticing and dealing with the problem if the doom scenario you describe actually occurs...
Just out of interrest, any idea how much many was spent in total ?
Indeed, it isn't like you're changing the fonts, it's like you're using the fonts...
I mean, would I have to put up all my source code I've written with a GPL'ed editor? I don't think so, but it seems like a pretty similar case..
What do you mean USED to?
netsol is still the worst.
I think that at the point you cannot actually administer your domains, you've just made yourself familliar with a domain registar that's worse than netsol...
unless it's a channel that's explitly friendly to new users you probably won't get a very nice response.
I'm sorry, but as far as I understand it, Debian suffers, or starts to suffer, from Ubuntu's popularity...
Shouldn't being friendly to new people be one of your top priorities then ?
Why? GnomeMeeting [gnomemeeting.org] is compatible with Netmeeting on Windows (both use the H.323 protocoll). You can just use that.
Yes, but it isn't MSN. The windows people are used to using MSN for their webcam conversations, which isn't going to change when some geeky geek says 'you should use netmeeting, because blah blah blah'.
Reverse engineering is the way to go in this case, and I'm glad someone finally used his skills and took the effort to actually do that.
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That's why passwords are not "encrypted" per se, but transformed using one-way hashes. I'm surprised "someone" didn't point this fact out.
If someone has access to your application, and your application has access to your database, that someone has access to your database.
"so called warez" ?
C'mon, this is slashdot, we know our piracy stuff... :)
Karma whores are individuals, or messages themselves, that attempt to receive feedback in the form of karma points. Often these will be needless information (such as a link to a wikipedia article to the subject being discussed)
The parent I replied to, didn't know what BitKeeper was, I could have said 'yes, it is something like CVS', I could also just point him to a resource of information about it...
Sorry for trying to help, to put actual useful information in these comments... next time I'll bash Microsoft again.
Wikipedia knows it all!
Exactly... I've looked all over the page many times before looking for the problem, but I just can't find it!
Please, can anyone post a screenshot so I can see ? I'm really curious... :-)