> Besides, certain terror groups didn't have rockets that could reach > the USA from Afghanistan either and look how that turned out.
Yeah, they killed a few thousand people, we went batshit insane, promptly cluster fucked ourselves and directly caused the death of nearly a million individuals.
One punctuation point per sentence is generally enough, unless you feel that your knowledge of adjectives is insufficient to properly express yourself, of course.
Huh, weird. I've got a somewhat similar problem, not exact, but somewhat. I'll be leaving my abode for likely what will turn out to be the coldest month for a not insignificant amount of time. My solution is pretty coarse, but it works for me.
Microsoft probably did this just to fuck with your friend's mind. She is a most powerful Admin, after all.
SCENE: Your friend and Microsoft are standing in Microsoft's office. Your friend has her light saber drawn in an offensive stance while Microsoft stands rather tensly in front of your friend. Microsoft's fear is carefully hidden. Its back is to your friend.
WF_ADMIN: I won't be a pawn in your political game. Wells Fargo is my family.
MICROSOFT: Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Admin. Learn to know the dark side of the Source, Admin, and you will be able to save your banking application from certain death.
WF_ADMIN: What did you say?
MICROSOFT: Use my browser, I beg you . . .
WF_ADMIN: You're a convicted monopilist!
MICROSOFT: I know what has been troubling you . . . Listen to me. Don't continue to be a pawn of Wells Fargo! Ever since I've known you, you've been searching for a life greater than that of an ordinary Admin . . . a life of significance, of conscience.
WF_ADMIN: You're wrong!
MICROSOFT: Are you going to kill me?
WF_ADMIN: I would certainly like to.
MICROSOFT: I know you would. I can feel your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger.
(In case anyone is curious, no, I didn't need to look up the script. Yes, it's sick. And, yes, I know that Anakin ignites his saber after "You're a Sith Lord!", not before. Yes, that's sick too.)
Good catch. I am told that such silly logical mistakes are a hallmark of my speech when I am tired or otherwise distracted, even going so far as to speak in paradoxes periodically.
Often I just have firefox XOR a terminal open, sometimes both. But that's not quite fair. By windows do you mean applications? Because I have, lets see, two screen sessions, four konqueror instances running in one "window", kopete, akregator, amarok, kmail and ktorrent running as icons in the system tray (they notify me when something interesting happens, no need to keep them out clogging precious information space), xplanet, conky, yakuake and a bunch of shit that run as background processes but which I am still actively interested in.
So one window, hundreds of applications. I'm usually interacting with fifty different programs, but is that what you're shooting for?
Edgy apparently has major problems with wireless support. I upgraded my Lenovo 3000 N100 yesterday and my previously functioning wireless card is now non-functional. Sigh. More here.
(Why do I have to write one of these, Woops, a hardware regression. posts every time a new Ubuntu version is released?)
Actually, there's a lot of GNU on your typical Linux system (which is, not surprisingly, why Stallman insists on GNU/Linux). There's coreutils (ls, rm, so on and so forth), which is, I assume, what you mean by heirloom utilities. Then there's bash, a couple of editors, binutils (linker, compiler, assembler, so on and so forth), the make system, the C library, GNOME and all the official GNOME utilitites, autotools, bison, some games, a bunch of misc. system utilities and a bunch of stuff that few people will give a rat's ass about but will tend to use alot and a handful of stuff that would be best if everyone forgot. Hell, from what I understand, Linux itself relied heavily on gcc and the GNU C extentions at one point (it may still well, this wasn't long ago), so there's that too.
Assuming the HURD weren't such a massive train wreck the GNU System would be a remarkably complete *nix environment, which is why Linux has done so well. There's a lot of GNU left on any given Linux system. Nothing to sneeze at, anyway.
I'd like to agree, but at this point who would use HURD? If it were '90 and the whole GNU system where availiable I could see myself as a HURD user rather than a Linux user, but now it's just irrelevant. Hell, the crazy fuckers can't even stick with their original design goals, they're thinking about switching micro-kernels _again_ without ever having gotten something usable. Stick with the original plan, motherfuckers! Then fix things!
Argh, sorry. It just pisses me off. I'd love to use a complete GNU system, but there's no way that's ever going to happen. It's not even that the HURD is difficult to write because is a micro-kernel. MINIX has been rewritten three times, and has been usable, in one sense or another, in almost the same amount of time it's taken the GNU folks to get _nothing_ done with HURD.
The two biggest jokes in software development are the GNU HURD and Duke Nukem Forever, and that's just sad. If HURD is ever finished (and I'm not holding my breath) there will be so many better GNU/Foo systems around, for various values of Foo, that HURD will never collect enough of a user base to be more than a curious little blip.
I really wish, though, things had turned out differently. Might have been cool, who knows?
I'd swear you were using a template for this. I've seen it at least once before in almost this exact phrasing. Could you clarify your points?
> It's almost-OO, except the syntax makes Python OO code about as > pleasant to read as C OO code.
What's good syntax for object oriented code? How is python's bad?
> It's sometimes almost-functional, but not really, since the maintainer > refused to merge the tail-recursion optimisation patch.
Where does Python sell itself as a pure functional programming language? Surely the patch was not rejected by the dev-team out of spite. Was their reasoning flawed in your opinion? If so, how? There are many reasons, none of which you are stating, that the patch may have been rejected.
> The language is very easy to learn, and makes doing the > Wrong Thing(TM) very easy.
What are specific examples of python making the Wrong Thing easier to do while making the Right Thing more difficult?
> I've used a few things written in Python, and it's the only language > where I always have to go through the install, debug, use cycle for > other peoples' code.
This is specious reasoning, at best. You're taking a few data points and extrapolating to a general conclusion, i.e. Python is a bad language. But, unless you can specifically point out where the language is at fault in these programs, I would put forth the conclusion that the programmers were bad and that you would have had to go through the install, debug and use cycle no matter their language of choice. I would be wrong, of course, if you could point out where python, and not the programmers, were at fault.
> I'm going to be moderated flamebait for this.
No, you're not. This is an old/. cliche. Stating that you're going to be moderated a certain way very likely means you will not.
Anyway, I'm not trying to reverse-troll you Mr. Caustic Poster, but am, rather, genuinely interesting if you have anything to say other than what appears to be an irrational and unfounded stance toward a programming language (Which, don't feel bad, is not unusual). Please reply, if not here then through email, as I would like to further understand your position.
I think you're wrong and illogical and I would, pretty please, like to be convinced otherwise.
Maybe I'm just cantankerous today, but the idea of having a GUI do more happy bouncy shit to pander to the least educated user really bugs me. Perhaps it's just me, but I hate little "helpful" pop-up tips and goofy animations asking if they can assist me in writing a letter. No user interface, other than the nipple if you're a mammal, is intuative and no amount of pop-uppery will fix that. Simplification and consistancy is probably the best way to make sure that all the rules of the interface can fit inside people's head, which is maybe what they're groping toward by copying OSX. (Which is by no means the Best Interface Ever, as some people content. Me? I like the command line.)
Blegh. Why has this pissed me off so much? I've not used a Microsoft product in years, and I'm far more likely to do this[*] before touching Vista. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but does this piss anyone else off?
[*] DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK (unless you're familiar with modblog, aren't squemish and aren't at work).
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> Besides, certain terror groups didn't have rockets that could reach
> the USA from Afghanistan either and look how that turned out.
Yeah, they killed a few thousand people, we went batshit insane, promptly cluster fucked ourselves and directly caused the death of nearly a million individuals.
I don't see your point.
Yep, I get it quite often even when logged in, as well.
English "or" is not always XOR. You are incorrect, sir.
One punctuation point per sentence is generally enough, unless you feel that your knowledge of adjectives is insufficient to properly express yourself, of course.
> Caves on Mars could become habitats for future explorers...
Does anyone else find it slightly amusing that as humans move out into space we may yet again end up living in caves?
Dear Stupid,
FreeBSD is not Linux.
Yours
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I was/am addicted to Star Trek: Birth of the Federation. It's pretty much MOO with some improvements, but in the Star Trek universe.
Prayer?
Huh, weird. I've got a somewhat similar problem, not exact, but somewhat. I'll be leaving my abode for likely what will turn out to be the coldest month for a not insignificant amount of time. My solution is pretty coarse, but it works for me.
Wrong story buddy.The story that you want to be inane in is here: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/16/234022 4
The system probably has a failsafe on that last step: your Mom.
/. Man, I need to get a life.)
(Holy shit, I just made my first "Your Mom!" joke on
What's up with all the itsatrap tags today, anyway? Does someone think it's funny?
That, or I've watched Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith damn near 30 times.
> She wants to kill Microsoft right now.
Microsoft probably did this just to fuck with your friend's mind. She is a most powerful Admin, after all.
SCENE: Your friend and Microsoft are standing in Microsoft's office. Your friend has her light saber drawn in an offensive stance while Microsoft stands rather tensly in front of your friend. Microsoft's fear is carefully hidden. Its back is to your friend.
WF_ADMIN: I won't be a pawn in your political game. Wells Fargo is my family.
MICROSOFT: Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Admin. Learn to know the dark side of the Source, Admin, and you will be able to save your banking application from certain death.
WF_ADMIN: What did you say?
MICROSOFT: Use my browser, I beg you . . .
WF_ADMIN: You're a convicted monopilist!
MICROSOFT: I know what has been troubling you . . . Listen to me. Don't continue to be a pawn of Wells Fargo! Ever since I've known you, you've been searching for a life greater than that of an ordinary Admin . . . a life of significance, of conscience.
WF_ADMIN: You're wrong!
MICROSOFT: Are you going to kill me?
WF_ADMIN: I would certainly like to.
MICROSOFT: I know you would. I can feel your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger.
(In case anyone is curious, no, I didn't need to look up the script. Yes, it's sick. And, yes, I know that Anakin ignites his saber after "You're a Sith Lord!", not before. Yes, that's sick too.)
Good catch. I am told that such silly logical mistakes are a hallmark of my speech when I am tired or otherwise distracted, even going so far as to speak in paradoxes periodically.
Often I just have firefox XOR a terminal open, sometimes both. But that's not quite fair. By windows do you mean applications? Because I have, lets see, two screen sessions, four konqueror instances running in one "window", kopete, akregator, amarok, kmail and ktorrent running as icons in the system tray (they notify me when something interesting happens, no need to keep them out clogging precious information space), xplanet, conky, yakuake and a bunch of shit that run as background processes but which I am still actively interested in.
So one window, hundreds of applications. I'm usually interacting with fifty different programs, but is that what you're shooting for?
Seriously, that is the fucking coolest thing I've ever read. I think you've just inspired me to seriously study Artificial Intelligence/Life!
Yeah, but does your organization do it in low earth orbit?
Edgy apparently has major problems with wireless support. I upgraded my Lenovo 3000 N100 yesterday and my previously functioning wireless card is now non-functional. Sigh. More here.
(Why do I have to write one of these, Woops, a hardware regression. posts every time a new Ubuntu version is released?)
Woops, I fucked up. Sorry.
Actually, there's a lot of GNU on your typical Linux system (which is, not surprisingly, why Stallman insists on GNU/Linux). There's coreutils (ls, rm, so on and so forth), which is, I assume, what you mean by heirloom utilities. Then there's bash, a couple of editors, binutils (linker, compiler, assembler, so on and so forth), the make system, the C library, GNOME and all the official GNOME utilitites, autotools, bison, some games, a bunch of misc. system utilities and a bunch of stuff that few people will give a rat's ass about but will tend to use alot and a handful of stuff that would be best if everyone forgot. Hell, from what I understand, Linux itself relied heavily on gcc and the GNU C extentions at one point (it may still well, this wasn't long ago), so there's that too.
Assuming the HURD weren't such a massive train wreck the GNU System would be a remarkably complete *nix environment, which is why Linux has done so well. There's a lot of GNU left on any given Linux system. Nothing to sneeze at, anyway.
Here is, by the way, the full listing of the GNU Project Software.
I'd like to agree, but at this point who would use HURD? If it were '90 and the whole GNU system where availiable I could see myself as a HURD user rather than a Linux user, but now it's just irrelevant. Hell, the crazy fuckers can't even stick with their original design goals, they're thinking about switching micro-kernels _again_ without ever having gotten something usable. Stick with the original plan, motherfuckers! Then fix things!
Argh, sorry. It just pisses me off. I'd love to use a complete GNU system, but there's no way that's ever going to happen. It's not even that the HURD is difficult to write because is a micro-kernel. MINIX has been rewritten three times, and has been usable, in one sense or another, in almost the same amount of time it's taken the GNU folks to get _nothing_ done with HURD.
The two biggest jokes in software development are the GNU HURD and Duke Nukem Forever, and that's just sad. If HURD is ever finished (and I'm not holding my breath) there will be so many better GNU/Foo systems around, for various values of Foo, that HURD will never collect enough of a user base to be more than a curious little blip.
I really wish, though, things had turned out differently. Might have been cool, who knows?
Sorry, figured the footnote would be enough.
I'd swear you were using a template for this. I've seen it at least once before in almost this exact phrasing. Could you clarify your points?
/. cliche. Stating that you're going to be moderated a certain way very likely means you will not.
> It's almost-OO, except the syntax makes Python OO code about as
> pleasant to read as C OO code.
What's good syntax for object oriented code? How is python's bad?
> It's sometimes almost-functional, but not really, since the maintainer
> refused to merge the tail-recursion optimisation patch.
Where does Python sell itself as a pure functional programming language? Surely the patch was not rejected by the dev-team out of spite. Was their reasoning flawed in your opinion? If so, how? There are many reasons, none of which you are stating, that the patch may have been rejected.
> The language is very easy to learn, and makes doing the
> Wrong Thing(TM) very easy.
What are specific examples of python making the Wrong Thing easier to do while making the Right Thing more difficult?
> I've used a few things written in Python, and it's the only language
> where I always have to go through the install, debug, use cycle for
> other peoples' code.
This is specious reasoning, at best. You're taking a few data points and extrapolating to a general conclusion, i.e. Python is a bad language. But, unless you can specifically point out where the language is at fault in these programs, I would put forth the conclusion that the programmers were bad and that you would have had to go through the install, debug and use cycle no matter their language of choice. I would be wrong, of course, if you could point out where python, and not the programmers, were at fault.
> I'm going to be moderated flamebait for this.
No, you're not. This is an old
Anyway, I'm not trying to reverse-troll you Mr. Caustic Poster, but am, rather, genuinely interesting if you have anything to say other than what appears to be an irrational and unfounded stance toward a programming language (Which, don't feel bad, is not unusual). Please reply, if not here then through email, as I would like to further understand your position.
I think you're wrong and illogical and I would, pretty please, like to be convinced otherwise.
Maybe I'm just cantankerous today, but the idea of having a GUI do more happy bouncy shit to pander to the least educated user really bugs me. Perhaps it's just me, but I hate little "helpful" pop-up tips and goofy animations asking if they can assist me in writing a letter. No user interface, other than the nipple if you're a mammal, is intuative and no amount of pop-uppery will fix that. Simplification and consistancy is probably the best way to make sure that all the rules of the interface can fit inside people's head, which is maybe what they're groping toward by copying OSX. (Which is by no means the Best Interface Ever, as some people content. Me? I like the command line.)
Blegh. Why has this pissed me off so much? I've not used a Microsoft product in years, and I'm far more likely to do this[*] before touching Vista. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but does this piss anyone else off?
[*] DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK (unless you're familiar with modblog, aren't squemish and aren't at work).