I'm not sure but it seems that this is another scalar/vector chip or more of a hybrid super scalar but I'm really liking the concept of a cpu with scalar and vector units.
On that note is this part of Suns Majc proccessor line?
cheers!
I was just think about the same thing this morning which is a programming language designed from the ground up to be multi-threaded.
Here's a few ideas, let's see if we can get some other intelligent folks to join in.
** Contracts
I imagined having "contracts" much like C# has with interfaces. With a threaded "contract" code is checked at compile time instead of having runtime "gotchas".
"Contracts" would prevent any piece of code from spawning a thread and those objects/functions that did spawn threads would have coinciding "contracts" for the object/thread being called.
** Intelligent IDE
In Eclipse (not the best I know) there is a built in refactor. I can do all sorts of stuff like pull out a class, create stubs, infer generic types, convert anonymous to nested class and the like all with an automated process!
Now imagine if the IDE could check a class for it's thread safety-ness(sp) all before compiling. All a programmer would have to do is highlight a section of code and select the TYPE of thread (1 processor/multi thread, Dual processor single thread,etc) and then the IDE would use game theory to adjust the classes members all on the fly! Possible?
Ok that's just two, lol, but the whole emphasis is on:
*Compile time, safety for threads
*IDE on the fly thread contract correcting,regression and basic race condition checking
*Intelligent compiler warnings regarding possible inappropriate thread usage
*Thread Cases(?) - A restricted system of compile time thread safety where various *types* of threads have different access to other threads.. (private, public, protected) similar to classes. Prevents certain objects under this TYPE of thread from calling another TYPE of thread.. basically, more compile time safety
*Thread hierarchy(?) a strict system of enforcing what threads and objects (within a given thread) can call or pass/share data with another thread and object in another thread. Helps the compiler know how to optimize and the programmer find tricky logic errors
Ok that was wordy. Did it help to explain the vision I was having? Does this coincide with trends or ideas you had?
Interesting.
I was just think about the same thing this morning which is a programming language designed from the ground up to be multi-threaded.
Here's a few ideas, let's see if we can get some other intelligent folks to join in.
** Contracts
I imagined having "contracts" much like C# has with interfaces. With a threaded "contract" code is checked at compile time instead of having runtime "gotchas".
"Contracts" would prevent any piece of code from spawning a thread and those objects/functions that did spawn threads would have coinciding "contracts" for the object/thread being called.
** Intelligent IDE
In Eclipse (not the best I know) there is a built in refactor. I can do all sorts of stuff like pull out a class, create stubs, infer generic types, convert anonymous to nested class and the like all with an automated process!
Now imagine if the IDE could check a class for it's thread safety-ness(sp) all before compiling. All a programmer would have to do is highlight a section of code and select the TYPE of thread (1 processor/multi thread, Dual processor single thread,etc) and then the IDE would use game theory to adjust the classes members all on the fly! Possible?
Ok that's just two, lol, but the whole emphasis is on:
*Compile time, safety for threads
*IDE on the fly thread contract correcting,regression and basic race condition checking
*Intelligent compiler warnings regarding possible inappropriate thread usage
*Thread Cases(?) - A restricted system of compile time thread safety where various *types* of threads have different access to other threads.. (private, public, protected) similar to classes. Prevents certain objects under this TYPE of thread from calling another TYPE of thread.. basically, more compile time safety
*Thread hierarchy(?) a strict system of enforcing what threads and objects (within a given thread) can call or pass/share data with another thread and object in another thread. Helps the compiler know how to optimize and the programmer find tricky logic errors
Ok that was wordy. Did it help to explain the vision I was having? Does this coincide with trends or ideas you had?
Cheers!
'The proles are not human beings,' he said carelessly. 'By 2050 earlier, probably -- all real knowledge of Oldspeak will have disappeared. The whole literature of the past will have been destroyed. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Byron -- they'll exist only in Newspeak versions, not merely changed into something different, but actually changed into something contradictory of what they used to be. Even the literature of the Party will change. Even the slogans will change. How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished? The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking -- not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.'
One of these days, thought Digital.Prion with sudden deep conviction, Topham will be vaporized. He is too intelligent. He sees too clearly and speaks too plainly. The Party does not like such people. One day he will disappear. It is written in his face.
..goodbye topham.. I hope you don't see it comming.
Perhaps you should take a look at one of Microsoft's research development projects. It's a kernel written in C#..
The link will take you to Code9 a place where Microsoft allows the average person to see behind the scenes. Interesting stuff and a really GREAT movie/ concept OS!
Ok, questions. Do you know how I would go about calculating the wieght of the atmosphere that gets displaced at any given altitude? Also, how did you calculate the wieght of the diamond?
My original thought is if such a tech could lift a sufficent wieght to LEO orbit or reduce the costs of fuel to wieght ratio to a meaningful savings then its worth it!
With diamond, the system is %100 reusable and the tech itself could be used to recoat the space shuttle reentry module with diamond insted of carbon panels - GLUED on..
There are so many uses for diamond, it might even make a grade a lunar structure and with no worrys about SUDDEN decompression - that's a GOOD THING! I agree with you that the thing about space is that resources are so thin that whatever CAN be reused or recycled should be, but that doesn;t mean that the resources can't be thousands of gallons per person versus a few hundred.. Besides, such a technique *if possible* (crosses fingers) would allow us to colonize the moon far faster and in an eco friendly manner.
Instead of trying to lasso a friggin' asteroid. {excuse me.. still laughing}.. ok..
Why couldn't we just build a "Bubble" of sorts out of diamond?
Here's the basic idea. We build a sphere/dome/donought shaped diamond structure - roughly 1 kilometer in diameter. Ok?
The "Bubble" would use the simple principle of bouency whereby the earth's atmosphere become the "counter mass" that pushes the bubble into the sky. Imagine a bubble in your cola with the cola being the atmosphere
The reason for a diamond super structure is because the "Bubble" needs to decompress the atmosphere inside of it. It become a giant vacuum inside. That's where the lifting power comes from.. DUH! So diamond would be needed to withstand the atmospheric pressure, upper atmospheric radiation and most importantly the cargo weight that will piggy back the bubble to it's upper atmospheric height!
We make the diamond is curved sheets using CVD (carbon vapor deposit). This is being done TODAY, the only need would be to expand the "ovens" that are currently pressing out tiny 4 carrot rocks.
The "Bubble" has got to be LARGE.. Friggin' HUGE!.. Why? So that it can carry thousands of tons (or more!) of cargo with perhaps a rocket that detaches at 100 miles up and takes the cargo to orbit or the moon.
Once hundreds of thousands of tons can be reliably taken to orbit and back.. We are a space faring people TRUELY! I also imagine getting back down to earth in the same manner with a smaller bubble..
Before my imagination runs away from me, is such a thing even possible??? Admittedly I have never taken physics so I have had problems calculating the weight to atmospheric displacement.
If such a thing *IS* possible.. The moon could be populated by HUNDREDS of thousands of people and not the hundreds we have only spoken about regarding the Space Elevator..
PHYSICISTS I NEED YOU!! PS:Cheers
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I had a strange idea.. Please hear me out..
Instead of trying to lasso a friggin' asteroid. {excuse me.. still laughing}.. ok..
Why couldn't we just build a "Bubble" of sorts out of diamond?
Here's the basic idea. We build a sphere/dome/donought shaped diamond structure - roughly 1 kilometer in diameter. Ok?
The "Bubble" would use the simple principle of bouency whereby the earth's atmosphere become the "counter weight" that pushes the bubble into the sky.Imagine a bubble in your cola with the cola being the atmosphere
The reason for a diamond super structure is because the "Bubble" needs to decompress the atmosphere inside of it. It become a giant vacuum inside. That's where the lifting power comes from.. DUH! So diamond would be needed to withstand the atmospheric pressure, upper atmospheric radiation and most importantly the cargo weight that will piggy back the bubble to it's upper atmospheric height!
We make the diamond is curved sheets using CVD (carbon vapor deposit). This is being done TODAY, the only need would be to expand the "ovens" that are currently pressing out tiny 4 carrot rocks.
The "Bubble" has got to be LARGE.. Friggin' HUGE!.. Why? So that it can carry thousands of tons (or more!) of cargo with perhaps a rocket that detaches at 100 miles up and takes the cargo to orbit or the moon!
Once hundreds of thousands of tons can be reliably taken to orbit and back.. We are a space faring people TRUELY! I also imagine getting back down to earth in the same manner with a smaller bubble..
Before my imagination carries me away, is such a thing even possible??? Admittedly I have never taken physics so I have had problems calculating the weight to atmospheric displacement.
If such a thing *IS* possible.. The moon could be populated by HUNDREDS of thousands of people and not just a handful some have suggested regarding the Space Elevator and other ideas..
Wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense just to add a processor on the main memory and let it do all the memory functions?
As I understand it all memory functions are now handled by the Main CPU which does all the orginization and allocation ect..
If a special CPU sat on the memory module then languages like C# and JAVA would see huge speed gains as software memory allocations would be a thing of the past. Just ask the memory to give you SAPCE and it makes room.. OR what may be even better is if the CPU on the MEM module was optimized to handle object references nativly. So that once an object is made in C# then a handle is used then the MEM-CPU could handle that without being told HOW to do so.. less cross talk!!
I know I ant the first to think about this but what do you say? Wouln't this be better than a FASTER CPU, that would end up waiting fir MEM half the time anyway?
Mabey the question is why the Cylons have not destroyed them YET being as they seemingly could at any point and time.. That's what I keep wondering too.
One of the best books I have EVER read. You don't need to know anything else, just get to your library and thank your lucky stars you were let IN on this book.. nuff said.
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All that evil built up in his bones and then suddenly, he had to reboot.
I question:
What happens when machines reach human level thought speech or better yet surpass it? What then about us becomes obsolete?
riiiiight..
//pft
... so why does NEC seem so upset?
The quality was better.
I'm not sure but it seems that this is another scalar/vector chip or more of a hybrid super scalar but I'm really liking the concept of a cpu with scalar and vector units. On that note is this part of Suns Majc proccessor line? cheers!
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Interesting.
I was just think about the same thing this morning which is a programming language designed from the ground up to be multi-threaded.
Here's a few ideas, let's see if we can get some other intelligent folks to join in.
** Contracts
I imagined having "contracts" much like C# has with interfaces. With a threaded "contract" code is checked at compile time instead of having runtime "gotchas".
"Contracts" would prevent any piece of code from spawning a thread and those objects/functions that did spawn threads would have coinciding "contracts" for the object/thread being called.
** Intelligent IDE
In Eclipse (not the best I know) there is a built in refactor. I can do all sorts of stuff like pull out a class, create stubs, infer generic types, convert anonymous to nested class and the like all with an automated process!
Now imagine if the IDE could check a class for it's thread safety-ness(sp) all before compiling. All a programmer would have to do is highlight a section of code and select the TYPE of thread (1 processor/multi thread, Dual processor single thread,etc) and then the IDE would use game theory to adjust the classes members all on the fly! Possible?
Ok that's just two, lol, but the whole emphasis is on:
*Compile time, safety for threads
*IDE on the fly thread contract correcting,regression and basic race condition checking
*Intelligent compiler warnings regarding possible inappropriate thread usage
*Thread Cases(?) - A restricted system of compile time thread safety where various *types* of threads have different access to other threads.. (private, public, protected) similar to classes. Prevents certain objects under this TYPE of thread from calling another TYPE of thread.. basically, more compile time safety
*Thread hierarchy(?) a strict system of enforcing what threads and objects (within a given thread) can call or pass/share data with another thread and object in another thread. Helps the compiler know how to optimize and the programmer find tricky logic errors
Ok that was wordy. Did it help to explain the vision I was having? Does this coincide with trends or ideas you had?
Cheers!
Interesting. I was just think about the same thing this morning which is a programming language designed from the ground up to be multi-threaded. Here's a few ideas, let's see if we can get some other intelligent folks to join in. ** Contracts I imagined having "contracts" much like C# has with interfaces. With a threaded "contract" code is checked at compile time instead of having runtime "gotchas". "Contracts" would prevent any piece of code from spawning a thread and those objects/functions that did spawn threads would have coinciding "contracts" for the object/thread being called. ** Intelligent IDE In Eclipse (not the best I know) there is a built in refactor. I can do all sorts of stuff like pull out a class, create stubs, infer generic types, convert anonymous to nested class and the like all with an automated process! Now imagine if the IDE could check a class for it's thread safety-ness(sp) all before compiling. All a programmer would have to do is highlight a section of code and select the TYPE of thread (1 processor/multi thread, Dual processor single thread,etc) and then the IDE would use game theory to adjust the classes members all on the fly! Possible? Ok that's just two, lol, but the whole emphasis is on: *Compile time, safety for threads *IDE on the fly thread contract correcting,regression and basic race condition checking *Intelligent compiler warnings regarding possible inappropriate thread usage *Thread Cases(?) - A restricted system of compile time thread safety where various *types* of threads have different access to other threads.. (private, public, protected) similar to classes. Prevents certain objects under this TYPE of thread from calling another TYPE of thread.. basically, more compile time safety *Thread hierarchy(?) a strict system of enforcing what threads and objects (within a given thread) can call or pass/share data with another thread and object in another thread. Helps the compiler know how to optimize and the programmer find tricky logic errors Ok that was wordy. Did it help to explain the vision I was having? Does this coincide with trends or ideas you had? Cheers!
Is it just me or are threads the new pointers?
How does it go again?
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
And, Oh yea.. Prepare to be boarded!
The way you tell it
the new ipod earphones
will be phalic shapped. Hahaha
..
oh wait..
..goodbye topham.. I hope you don't see it comming.
/sniffle
I said the kernel is written in C#..Mistake.
.. I think
.. cool .. http://msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp/future/
The "kernel" is written in unmanaged code which would be C
The Managed Operating System is what is written in C#.
VEry interesting concept. I can allready imagine..
PS: C# and LINQ
PSS: SNAFU = Situation Normal All Fucked Up.
Perhaps you should take a look at one of Microsoft's research development projects. It's a kernel written in C#..
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The link will take you to Code9 a place where Microsoft allows the average person to see behind the scenes. Interesting stuff and a really GREAT movie/ concept OS!
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=683
Cheers
Wow, thank you for the response!
Ok, questions. Do you know how I would go about calculating the wieght of the atmosphere that gets displaced at any given altitude? Also, how did you calculate the wieght of the diamond?
My original thought is if such a tech could lift a sufficent wieght to LEO orbit or reduce the costs of fuel to wieght ratio to a meaningful savings then its worth it!
With diamond, the system is %100 reusable and the tech itself could be used to recoat the space shuttle reentry module with diamond insted of carbon panels - GLUED on..
There are so many uses for diamond, it might even make a grade a lunar structure and with no worrys about SUDDEN decompression - that's a GOOD THING! I agree with you that the thing about space is that resources are so thin that whatever CAN be reused or recycled should be, but that doesn;t mean that the resources can't be thousands of gallons per person versus a few hundred.. Besides, such a technique *if possible* (crosses fingers) would allow us to colonize the moon far faster and in an eco friendly manner.
Look forward to your reply!
Cheers!
I had a strange idea.. Please hear me out..
.. ok..
.. Why?
Instead of trying to lasso a friggin' asteroid. {excuse me.. still laughing}
Why couldn't we just build a "Bubble" of sorts out of diamond?
Here's the basic idea. We build a sphere/dome/donought shaped diamond structure - roughly 1 kilometer in diameter. Ok?
The "Bubble" would use the simple principle of bouency whereby the earth's atmosphere become the "counter mass" that pushes the bubble into the sky. Imagine a bubble in your cola with the cola being the atmosphere
The reason for a diamond super structure is because the "Bubble" needs to decompress the atmosphere inside of it. It become a giant vacuum inside. That's where the lifting power comes from.. DUH! So diamond would be needed to withstand the atmospheric pressure, upper atmospheric radiation and most importantly the cargo weight that will piggy back the bubble to it's upper atmospheric height!
We make the diamond is curved sheets using CVD (carbon vapor deposit). This is being done TODAY, the only need would be to expand the "ovens" that are currently pressing out tiny 4 carrot rocks.
The "Bubble" has got to be LARGE.. Friggin' HUGE!
So that it can carry thousands of tons (or more!) of cargo with perhaps a rocket that detaches at 100 miles up and takes the cargo to orbit or the moon.
Once hundreds of thousands of tons can be reliably taken to orbit and back.. We are a space faring people TRUELY! I also imagine getting back down to earth in the same manner with a smaller bubble..
Before my imagination runs away from me, is such a thing even possible??? Admittedly I have never taken physics so I have had problems calculating the weight to atmospheric displacement.
If such a thing *IS* possible.. The moon could be populated by HUNDREDS of thousands of people and not the hundreds we have only spoken about regarding the Space Elevator..
PHYSICISTS I NEED YOU!!
PS:Cheers
I had a strange idea.. Please hear me out..
.. ok..
.. Why?
Instead of trying to lasso a friggin' asteroid. {excuse me.. still laughing}
Why couldn't we just build a "Bubble" of sorts out of diamond?
Here's the basic idea. We build a sphere/dome/donought shaped diamond structure - roughly 1 kilometer in diameter. Ok?
The "Bubble" would use the simple principle of bouency whereby the earth's atmosphere become the "counter weight" that pushes the bubble into the sky. Imagine a bubble in your cola with the cola being the atmosphere
The reason for a diamond super structure is because the "Bubble" needs to decompress the atmosphere inside of it. It become a giant vacuum inside. That's where the lifting power comes from.. DUH! So diamond would be needed to withstand the atmospheric pressure, upper atmospheric radiation and most importantly the cargo weight that will piggy back the bubble to it's upper atmospheric height!
We make the diamond is curved sheets using CVD (carbon vapor deposit). This is being done TODAY, the only need would be to expand the "ovens" that are currently pressing out tiny 4 carrot rocks.
The "Bubble" has got to be LARGE.. Friggin' HUGE!
So that it can carry thousands of tons (or more!) of cargo with perhaps a rocket that detaches at 100 miles up and takes the cargo to orbit or the moon!
Once hundreds of thousands of tons can be reliably taken to orbit and back.. We are a space faring people TRUELY! I also imagine getting back down to earth in the same manner with a smaller bubble..
Before my imagination carries me away, is such a thing even possible??? Admittedly I have never taken physics so I have had problems calculating the weight to atmospheric displacement.
If such a thing *IS* possible.. The moon could be populated by HUNDREDS of thousands of people and not just a handful some have suggested regarding the Space Elevator and other ideas..
PHYSICISTS I NEED YOU!!
PS:Cheers
I'll pass.
Cheers
Wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense just to add a processor on the main memory and let it do all the memory functions?
As I understand it all memory functions are now handled by the Main CPU which does all the orginization and allocation ect..
If a special CPU sat on the memory module then languages like C# and JAVA would see huge speed gains as software memory allocations would be a thing of the past. Just ask the memory to give you SAPCE and it makes room.. OR what may be even better is if the CPU on the MEM module was optimized to handle object references nativly. So that once an object is made in C# then a handle is used then the MEM-CPU could handle that without being told HOW to do so.. less cross talk!!
I know I ant the first to think about this but what do you say? Wouln't this be better than a FASTER CPU, that would end up waiting fir MEM half the time anyway?
Hey, great points!
Mabey the question is why the Cylons have not destroyed them YET being as they seemingly could at any point and time.. That's what I keep wondering too.
PS: Adama is a Cylon
Cheers!
Mabey Everyone is a Cyclon..
And the Universe is the Machine..
Put that in your bubble and pop it..
Warlocks and Cyber Sex.. on the SAME day! Wow...
I been using Wamp since it was Damp.
The whole lot o' ya, fresh fishies, I tell ya, fresh fishies!
Yes!
But, at that time we were Overpaid, Oversexed and Over there!
Fun Factiod: 33% of all babies born in France after 1945 have dual citizenship despite have two French parents.
The moon is a Harsh Mistress
One of the best books I have EVER read. You don't need to know anything else, just get to your library and thank your lucky stars you were let IN on this book.. nuff said.
Machines and humans living in harmony. Try the book "The Moon Is A Hash Mistress"..
You'll love it.. And the machine that becomes your friend.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. Robert Heinlein