Well, yes, but if they can demonstrate that this company is behind it they may get a few thousand bucks compensation;) And a legal precedent that can have two possible scenarios:
A) Other such companies stop spamming Wikipedia B) Wikipedia finds a new source of income suing the spammers;)
Tea baggers complain about taxes... As soon as they learn that the taxes go to their beloved Private Companies they will become the most hardcore of the Tax Nazis
OK, it's Forbes and they belong to the kind of idiots who call "liberal" to anything that doesn't carry a huge cross on his neck and owns a Tea Party affiliation card... but mates, moderate yourself.
People talk about global warming, pollution, even to some extend about the swindling soil resources, but nobody has balls to tell the people that we are just too many using up too many resources and that the obvious solution is just to stop crapping out more humans as if we were a plague of afids. And this is valid for both, the poor countries and the rich ones where a single children uses up so many resources as a whole small village in Africa. And that just because children are considered a sort of consumer item such as HD TVs or mobile phones.
And instead of attacking the problem we are wasting time, resources and efforts in empty symbol-politik such as vaccinating the newborn in Africa to rid them from smallpox so that they can die later from AIDS, starvation or killed in a war.
Somebody has to design the machines, build the machines, maintain the machines [...]
Yeah, but as it seems from this thread they don't consider us poor overworked IT staff as part of the Human species. Hmmm, now that I think about it... this may be the answer for why the guys in the other departments don't even notice us...
I agree with your view of the book. From what I read in a quote from Heinlein the idea was based on the way the traditional Maori society worked. I find it an interesting idea, very interesting. Not in the pure sense of a military-only meritocracy but one extended to other things.
But well, that's another story... and I don't want to get a reputation of neo-nazi now after having all these poor little "libertarian" bastard think I would vote for O'Bama (well, if he gets Dutch nationality and learns to spell Scheveningen correctly I may consider it).
People who eat fish aren't considered "vegetarians"... some vegetarians or even vegans may exceptionally make an exception, that's true, but the definition is quite clear. Please recall that we are talking about people who have consciously made a choice on limiting their nutritional scope.
And also note that in the last decade or so people in general are starting to become much more interested in food as a cultural item of first importance (what you may call "foodie").
There are people who practice vegetarianism a few times a week and the rest eat healthy and mostly biological food the rest, these are called, here in Holland at least, flexitarians... but nobody confuses them with vegetarians.
Also note that we vegetarians, already since quite a lot of time ago, have our own culture, associations, publications, etc... which means that we do have a very good definition of what it exactly means to be vegetarian.
I didn't notice he was talking about *these* Vegans. Me bad. I would suggest to treat the issue with utter caution and leave them alone, they will eventually get extinct in the 23 century by then we will be able to safely colonize the Alpha Cuadrant.
Sorry? WTF has LDL to do with trans fats? And what has this to do with vegans? And by which mechanism exactly is it impossible for vegans to create their own LDL from any other sort of fats? And why partially hydrogenated? And what about oils of any kind?
Sorry mate, but this site is filled to the brim with hardcore nerds. If you make a stupid claim at least show us some funny cat pictures to laugh at, else you will get flamed;)
JESSIE: Prepare for trouble! JAMES: Make it double! JESSIE: To protect the world from devastation! JAMES: To unite all peoples within our nation! JESSIE: To denounce the evils of truth and love! JAMES: To extend our reach to the stars above! JESSIE: Jessie! JAMES: James! JESSIE: Team Rocket, blast off at the speed of light! JAMES: Surrender now, or prepare to fight! MEOWTH: Meowth! That's right!
I think there is some hidden meaning in there but I am afraid that we who love outside of the Redneckian Empire aren't too well informed about your culture's specificities.
Making a guess on what I mostly find in Google and Youtube regarding your race's culture I assume that you are talking about the illuminati conspiracy and the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus together with a smart reference against abortion making fun at the same time against those who claim the world is older than 6000 years and calling all the True Christian White Patriots to the arms against the Antichrist Obama...
I'm I right?
Please give me feedback, I'm trying to learn your language for scientific purposes. Thanks mate;)
I pity the poor Chinese and you should too... there must already be thousands of them in the hospitals due to the muscle cramps caused by laughing their asses out.
In fact the only evolutionary reason for snakes to have a special importance in shaping human and simian features would have been if we where snake predators...
3D vision and the ability for fixing on branch like patterns are of such importance for an arboreal animal as our primate ancestors that anything else has to be considered purely incidental.
Hey, there's a typo in your post s/specced/priced/g
We desktop Linux and or Windows users prefer something with more punch and lower price.
If I want to code I can do it on any PC, even second hand ones from ebay and 50 Euros. And if I want to do graphics stuff I can get myself a monster of a system for half the price.
You forget a small little fact (not very important actually):
Experimental data is verifiable and experiments reproducible.
One of the first issue with all these sexy stories about how bad science is is that
A) they are guilty of doing exactly what they say science does: Searching to be spectacular. Anybody ever checks on the veracity of this type of "anti studies". Nope. They sound too good, too fun, too sexy.
B) they don't make a difference between experiments and studies, hard science and "semi" sciences such as psychology, etc... and here I would include a good part of the medicine as this discipline is a frontier territory where you can find anything, from hardcore experiments to pure librarian work
And C) The worst issue of today's science is that there are too many idiots with an opinion. And anybody who is otherwise unable to differenciate experimental result from a correlational study (or even to spell his name correctly) thinks to be entitled to tell it to the world.
"More evenly spread"? Have you ever been in Europe, mate? And nope, the Dark Ages are one part of the middle ages, exactly the time from the fall of the Roman Empire up to the year 1000. The period of the Black Plague is 1348 - 1350, the last period of the Middle Ages shortly before the Renaissance (which started after the Black Plague).
I guess you know there's a place in Europe called "Italy", well it happens that one of the principal routes of the Hansa was from the Nothern Hanseatic capitals to Venice and Genua... unfortunately during this period travelling by plane was a bit difficult so that they had no other choice than doing ig by horse.
Yes, a WAR took decades... but sending a nice horde of horsemen to utterly annihilate whole countries didn't take much more than a few years... Recall Genghis Khan? And our good old continent is rather small: You can cross it in a few weeks afoot.
And you happily forgot that it wasn't only the Hansa and the armies who where travelling our map from corner to corner: Shepherds travelled a lot of miles, and they still do nowadays for instance in Spain were they keep the Merino herds in the north during the winter and travel hundreds of kilometres by foot in the winter. And of course, the peasants had to sell their stuff, and there a lot of tradespeople constantly on the road, gipsies, comedians, travelling monks, apprentices and pilgrims, mostly to Rome and to Compostela. And this is not something you read in history books, some of these traditions are still kept like the Pilgrimage to Santiago or the German Wanderschaft.
The very cities of central Europe were born out of this traffic: The two towns where I passed my childhood, Hildesheim and Hannover were born this way: On a river crossing on one of the mayor routes where people stopped to rest during after crossing the river or before doing it, a market was born and around the market a city. This was around the years 1000 to 1100,
And how to you think the cathedrals, churches, castles and mayor building were built? Local population? You played too much Ebony mate. it took years to become a master stonemason able to do the type of quality work needed for a cathedral or a castle.
And in any case: What is the point of this whole study anyway? Saying that the plague spread slowly? A plague that killed between 75-200 millions in 2 years? A plague that in in India in the modern times (until the 1980s actually) with all the communication networks in place and a population density higher than in any previous period has only been able to infect a few hundreds of persons? So what is the point then? Shouldn't they be studying why it spread so FAST and not trying to prove that there was no possible way for it to spread?
If you get a plague and die before you can walk to the next town... well, how does the next town get infected hen? By homoeopathic transmission through water? Via infected email? Yes, there were rats, but it's these who don't travel too far eve when infected.
So, the big question here is: WTF is this study about?
And I don't really understand the whole point of the study... if people weren't able to travel far they did not infect too many others... yet the plague wiped Europe clean, Wikipedia says it killed 75-200 million people... in 2 years !!!
The problem with rats is that they tend to be more sedentary than humans. Modern bubonic pest (endemic in some parts of India until recent times) has only been able to infect small numbers of people, despite a much higher population density and a similar degree of (in)salubrity.
Birds maybe? (if the Plague was not the bubonic pest, as we know it at least)
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Well, yes, but if they can demonstrate that this company is behind it they may get a few thousand bucks compensation ;)
And a legal precedent that can have two possible scenarios:
A) Other such companies stop spamming Wikipedia ;)
B) Wikipedia finds a new source of income suing the spammers
Tea baggers complain about taxes...
As soon as they learn that the taxes go to their beloved Private Companies they will become the most hardcore of the Tax Nazis
WTF do Anarchists have to do with this?
OK, it's Forbes and they belong to the kind of idiots who call "liberal" to anything that doesn't carry a huge cross on his neck and owns a Tea Party affiliation card... but mates, moderate yourself.
Anarchists just don't give a shit
The first problem is POPULATION.
period.
It's just that nobody dares to even mention it.
People talk about global warming, pollution, even to some extend about the swindling soil resources, but nobody has balls to tell the people that we are just too many using up too many resources and that the obvious solution is just to stop crapping out more humans as if we were a plague of afids. And this is valid for both, the poor countries and the rich ones where a single children uses up so many resources as a whole small village in Africa. And that just because children are considered a sort of consumer item such as HD TVs or mobile phones.
And instead of attacking the problem we are wasting time, resources and efforts in empty symbol-politik such as vaccinating the newborn in Africa to rid them from smallpox so that they can die later from AIDS, starvation or killed in a war.
Stupid humanity, stupid plague.
Mate, you don't work in IT, do you?
Because else I don't understand how you can even consider putting "machines" and "less errors" in the same sentence ;)
I agree with your view of the book. From what I read in a quote from Heinlein the idea was based on the way the traditional Maori society worked.
I find it an interesting idea, very interesting. Not in the pure sense of a military-only meritocracy but one extended to other things.
But well, that's another story... and I don't want to get a reputation of neo-nazi now after having all these poor little "libertarian" bastard think I would vote for O'Bama (well, if he gets Dutch nationality and learns to spell Scheveningen correctly I may consider it).
How do you dare!!!
Yes, they died out, the complete Vegan Tyranny... but they left the deadly Vegan choriomeningitis virus behind!!!
Actually not.
Vegetarian are lacto-ovo or lacto
People who eat fish aren't considered "vegetarians"... some vegetarians or even vegans may exceptionally make an exception, that's true, but the definition is quite clear. Please recall that we are talking about people who have consciously made a choice on limiting their nutritional scope.
And also note that in the last decade or so people in general are starting to become much more interested in food as a cultural item of first importance (what you may call "foodie").
There are people who practice vegetarianism a few times a week and the rest eat healthy and mostly biological food the rest, these are called, here in Holland at least, flexitarians... but nobody confuses them with vegetarians.
Also note that we vegetarians, already since quite a lot of time ago, have our own culture, associations, publications, etc... which means that we do have a very good definition of what it exactly means to be vegetarian.
I understand you point. Animals in Vega VII are said to be quite dangerous!
Aaah, crap!
I didn't notice he was talking about *these* Vegans. Me bad.
I would suggest to treat the issue with utter caution and leave them alone, they will eventually get extinct in the 23 century by then we will be able to safely colonize the Alpha Cuadrant.
Sorry?
WTF has LDL to do with trans fats?
And what has this to do with vegans?
And by which mechanism exactly is it impossible for vegans to create their own LDL from any other sort of fats?
And why partially hydrogenated?
And what about oils of any kind?
Sorry mate, but this site is filled to the brim with hardcore nerds. If you make a stupid claim at least show us some funny cat pictures to laugh at, else you will get flamed ;)
KTHXBYE
Crap! Wrong team!
Can you translate that into common English?
I think there is some hidden meaning in there but I am afraid that we who love outside of the Redneckian Empire aren't too well informed about your culture's specificities.
Making a guess on what I mostly find in Google and Youtube regarding your race's culture I assume that you are talking about the illuminati conspiracy and the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus together with a smart reference against abortion making fun at the same time against those who claim the world is older than 6000 years and calling all the True Christian White Patriots to the arms against the Antichrist Obama...
I'm I right?
Please give me feedback, I'm trying to learn your language for scientific purposes. Thanks mate ;)
Mate, the "many" stories of bravery by a few guys paid to e brave doesn't mean anything in comparison to a few hundreds of millions.
slaves? what have the East Europeans do to these guys? and why is there an organisation against them?
I personally like slavic chicks a lot!!!
I pity the poor Chinese and you should too... there must already be thousands of them in the hospitals due to the muscle cramps caused by laughing their asses out.
In fact the only evolutionary reason for snakes to have a special importance in shaping human and simian features would have been if we where snake predators...
3D vision and the ability for fixing on branch like patterns are of such importance for an arboreal animal as our primate ancestors that anything else has to be considered purely incidental.
And why snakes and not eagles or leopards?
A stupid study.
Hey, there's a typo in your post s/specced/priced/g
We desktop Linux and or Windows users prefer something with more punch and lower price.
If I want to code I can do it on any PC, even second hand ones from ebay and 50 Euros. And if I want to do graphics stuff I can get myself a monster of a system for half the price.
Second best to Leia pr0n!!!
You forget a small little fact (not very important actually):
Experimental data is verifiable and experiments reproducible.
One of the first issue with all these sexy stories about how bad science is is that
A) they are guilty of doing exactly what they say science does: Searching to be spectacular. Anybody ever checks on the veracity of this type of "anti studies". Nope. They sound too good, too fun, too sexy.
B) they don't make a difference between experiments and studies, hard science and "semi" sciences such as psychology, etc... and here I would include a good part of the medicine as this discipline is a frontier territory where you can find anything, from hardcore experiments to pure librarian work
And C) The worst issue of today's science is that there are too many idiots with an opinion. And anybody who is otherwise unable to differenciate experimental result from a correlational study (or even to spell his name correctly) thinks to be entitled to tell it to the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwehxN2ipCU
"More evenly spread"? Have you ever been in Europe, mate?
And nope, the Dark Ages are one part of the middle ages, exactly the time from the fall of the Roman Empire up to the year 1000. The period of the Black Plague is 1348 - 1350, the last period of the Middle Ages shortly before the Renaissance (which started after the Black Plague).
I guess you know there's a place in Europe called "Italy", well it happens that one of the principal routes of the Hansa was from the Nothern Hanseatic capitals to Venice and Genua... unfortunately during this period travelling by plane was a bit difficult so that they had no other choice than doing ig by horse.
Yes, a WAR took decades... but sending a nice horde of horsemen to utterly annihilate whole countries didn't take much more than a few years... Recall Genghis Khan? And our good old continent is rather small: You can cross it in a few weeks afoot.
And you happily forgot that it wasn't only the Hansa and the armies who where travelling our map from corner to corner: Shepherds travelled a lot of miles, and they still do nowadays for instance in Spain were they keep the Merino herds in the north during the winter and travel hundreds of kilometres by foot in the winter.
And of course, the peasants had to sell their stuff, and there a lot of tradespeople constantly on the road, gipsies, comedians, travelling monks, apprentices and pilgrims, mostly to Rome and to Compostela. And this is not something you read in history books, some of these traditions are still kept like the Pilgrimage to Santiago or the German Wanderschaft.
The very cities of central Europe were born out of this traffic: The two towns where I passed my childhood, Hildesheim and Hannover were born this way: On a river crossing on one of the mayor routes where people stopped to rest during after crossing the river or before doing it, a market was born and around the market a city. This was around the years 1000 to 1100,
And how to you think the cathedrals, churches, castles and mayor building were built? Local population? You played too much Ebony mate. it took years to become a master stonemason able to do the type of quality work needed for a cathedral or a castle.
And in any case: What is the point of this whole study anyway? Saying that the plague spread slowly? A plague that killed between 75-200 millions in 2 years?
A plague that in in India in the modern times (until the 1980s actually) with all the communication networks in place and a population density higher than in any previous period has only been able to infect a few hundreds of persons? So what is the point then? Shouldn't they be studying why it spread so FAST and not trying to prove that there was no possible way for it to spread?
If you get a plague and die before you can walk to the next town... well, how does the next town get infected hen? By homoeopathic transmission through water? Via infected email? Yes, there were rats, but it's these who don't travel too far eve when infected.
So, the big question here is: WTF is this study about?
Maybe.
And I don't really understand the whole point of the study... if people weren't able to travel far they did not infect too many others... yet the plague wiped Europe clean, Wikipedia says it killed 75-200 million people... in 2 years !!!
So... what's the point of the study then?
The problem with rats is that they tend to be more sedentary than humans.
Modern bubonic pest (endemic in some parts of India until recent times) has only been able to infect small numbers of people, despite a much higher population density and a similar degree of (in)salubrity.
Birds maybe? (if the Plague was not the bubonic pest, as we know it at least)