Of the 10 or so people I have known who went on to become police officers, every one of them had that particular kind of rationale. They wanted to prove that they were important and people should listen to them. No one I have ever known became a cop because they wanted to help serve and protect the citizens, or even just because they needed a job, they all wanted power over people.
Obviously, this is anecdotal. I am sure there are literally dozens of police officers who did it for the right reasons.
That's not entirely accurate. People don't choose to become black guys because it will give them a position of power and authority and a gun to make people have to listen to them,
No. I was actually kind of hoping someone could contradict me. I mean I see a lot of "We know everything this woman did was reprehensible" from blog sites like this, and when I read about it in the Post-Dispatch way back when, then certainly played it off as Drew was directly responsible for the account, and was sending the messages. They later backed off that and started pointing out that Drew created the account, which was backed off to it was a collaboration. Then Grills assistant started popping into the reports.
Basically, the only credible information I have is the linked articles, the St. Louis Post Dispatch articles, and NPR radio. All of which imply that Drew is a horrible person and directly responsible, but none of which has ever even stepped out on a limb to say Drew was directly involved in anything except maybe creating the account.
I just want someone to show me if we're going to burn the witch, do we have more reasonable proof than if she weighs the same as a duck?
I have been reading about this case for some time. So far the known points are Lori Drew may have been aware that her assistant (Grills) and daughter were putting together a fake MySpace account to "befriend" one Megan Meier. The assistant and daughter exchanged messaged with the Meir girl pretending to be a boy from Florida who was interested in her. After something upset the real life relationship with the Drew daughter and the Meier girl, the daughter and Grills started using the fake MySpace account to send mean-spirited messages to Megan. Culminating in Grills sending a message telling Megan the world would be better off without her.
You may not have noticed, but the only involvement ever mentioned in connection with Lori Drew is that she may have been aware the account was created. She did not herself create the account. She did not herself send messages to Megan Meier. She did not tell Meier to kill herself.
How does this qualify as "Grade-A Sociopath"?
I don't see that anything she did qualifies as wrong, let alone immoral, or illegal.
But Dammit! we need vengeance, and we already gave immunity to Grills if she agreed to testify, so...
In The Armageddon Factor (1979) an old friend of the Doctor referred to him as Theta Sigma. For all intents and purposes, this was his real name. In The Happiness Patrol (1988) The doctor said (paraphrase) My old college nickname was Theta Sigma (and now we are back to not knowing his real name as it was just a nickname).
The 12 regeneration limit was added in as an arbitrary plot point to give a impetus to a single character in a specific episode. With a single stroke of the pen a Time Lord could only regenerate 12 times. This is fiction, as a result, with a single stroke of the pen the limitation could be removed. We knew the Doctor's real name for 8 years, before it was removed as easily as it was put in.
The deified Robert Holmes had a bit of tendency to demystify the Doctor, which is a bit of a shame. Of course, he never expected people would be talking about Doctor Who 45 years after it started (note: Robert Holmes not only created the 12 regeneration limit, he also wrote the majority of the episode which implied the Tom Baker Doctor is the 8th or 9th Doctor).
I did fork over the money for a OpenBSD 4.3 CD, and I installed it on one machine. A few months later I was going to install it a second time, and the CD was nowhere to be found. I suspect they send out Daemons to sneak into your house and steal copies of your CDs so you have to buy it again (note: yes I am aware that they have downloadable ISOs now, that doesn't stop me from wanting to contribute to a good project).
Actually, my analogy was pretty good, because it translated very well. I was going to recommend you could build a mechanical guard dog that attacked what it considered intruders.
You building and training your mechanical guard dog doesn't mean me designing and deploying my robots to ambush you and your neighbors is a protected "free speech". I shouldn't be allowed to harass you endlessly and say "You had no right to know who I was; therefore, you shouldn't be able to know that I knew you told me not to trespass," as a legal defense.
If I am selling something door-to-door and I come to your door and you tell me to leave, I must leave your premises or I am committing trespass. I cannot say, "No, wait, now I am 'BlueCowHide'" and try again to make the sale again.
Now, let us suppose I could make an army of robots that attempted to make the sales for me, and of course they speak very poorly, sometimes you aren't sure what they are even selling, and sometimes they lied about anything and just recited random words, and they all lied to you about who they were (some of them even said they were you). And they ignored your requests they leave, and all of your neighbors had a horde of my robots at their doors having the same problems. Would you be saying that I am protecting my first amendment rights because you owned a door where my robots were able to try to contact you?
The problem with the Misinformed, Incorrect, or Complete BS mod would be that the moderator is just as likely to be incorrect or misinformed. I mean you could say something like: Planes were hijacked and flown into the WTC, and a "truther" with mod points is going to knock you down.
Also, there is a tendency to get into religious debate on here. You say, "I believe in God" or "There is no scientific evidence for the existence of God" and either way someone will think you are misinformed.
Grammar nazis and the like will have a field day with misused apostrophes, and Maths junkies will go ballistic about minor algebraic errors.
It seems wrong to loose karma from zealous moderation, not that it doesn't happen presently, but I fear it would be far more prevalent if you could injure someone for having a mild disagreement with them. What would be must useful, would be a "I found this comment useful", thumbs up/down system that didn't affect karma. Especially if you could still respond to the comment, and didn't have to hope you happen to have mod points when the brain-staining statement was made.
Yes, I have seen those "WTF are you talking about" posts too. I do sympathize.
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Most of the world (non-US) writes 22/7. They also write 14/3. So why is this international Pi day?
Other than my home, none of my property is taxed unless I buy or sell it (sales tax). I'm not sure what you are getting at
Why would you buy your own property?
I cannot speak for the rest of the world, let alone this country (US), but in my state (MO) we have a "Personal Property Tax". Basically, If anything you own is worth more than about $1000 you are supposed to declare it and pay PPT on it (Most people only declare vehicles, but you are supposed to declare things like large screen televisions, expensive appliances, etc). So If someone from my state creates some IP that he believes is worth more than $1000 and will sue anyone for "stealing" it (no, I am not going to get into a whole theft/copyright infringement thing right here), there is some justification for demanding they pay PPT on it.
But it's for your protection! If the government doesn't know when you're eating, watching T.V., or masturbating, how can they protect you?
I'm usually doing at least one of those.
I try to do all three at once. I'm a very busy man.
A white noise generator? Bah... What systems need are pop-o-matic bubbles with m * 2^n sided dice to generate m * n bits. It could even put a window up saying, "The entropy pool is depleted. Please press the pop-o-matic bubble to generate more."
But jail would be a 24 hour a day 365 days a year job. That comes out to 8760 hours a year (plus 1 - 2 leap years, which I'll discount for the purpose of this post). The standard US man year is 2080 hours. So $60,000 per year is $28.85 an hour (rounding up). While their "job" will be $6.85 an hour (because remember they can't go home, or out for pizza, or a night out to the bar, etc at any point in the five years). That comes out to $14,248 at the standard 2080 hours in a man year.
You know, sometimes the courts don't work. Sometimes they favor the entity with larger funds. For example, a woman who clearly never even possessed the software Kazaa was sued by Capitol records recently and lost a $222,000 judgment even though the only evidence they had was a screenshot of files she was serving through Kazaa. Some people would rather be a little poorer and covered rather than be right and bankrupt.
Microsoft does have a large patent portfolio. If you want to know which patents they will claim Linux infringes on, find a changelog from RedHat. For every new thing that shows up, add 2 - 3 months to the date, and look for Microsoft patents filed then. Yes, that screams prior art, but do you really think it would be hard for Microsoft to stuff a jury with people who don't understand prior art?
Microsoft didn't just make the SOAP specification, they filed a patent on it. Any SOAP using system (like Perl, PHP, Python, etc) would infringe on this patent.
I sure hope network transactions aren't optimized by offloading the work to the NIC in Linux or else they would run afoul of a MS patent.
Even Sun RPC isn't immune (and filed only 10 years late, according to RFC 1057).
Microsoft's patents are wrong, and immoral, and frequently violating prior art, but they do exist. So it does make sense from a business perspective for Novell sign an agreement with Microsoft to avoid a lawsuit which they may not win in spite of the law.
That said, I stopped using SuSE myself. I tend toward Fedora and Ubuntu these days.
6 of our 10 BSA member products (id est: the non-free ones) were Windows (XP Pro and 2000). I cannot find any terms in the EULA (Note: this is the terms for Genuine Advantage, but most MS EULAs are essentially the same) where I agree to perform inventorying on the system at my own cost and expense to be made available at their request. I cannot locate a Mac OS X EULA, but I don't remember that in there either. The other two were an ancient (1996) VB compiler (Which is still MS and is probably an even more primitive version of linked one), and Delphi EULA (pdf) which states they have the right to terminate the license if we breach any of the conditions, but does not say that we at our own expense must perform the work necessary to prove we aren't in violation of these terms.
I frequently do read license agreements (exclusions are GPL, LGPL, BSD, Apache, or others that I am quite sure what the terms are as I have already read them). I have never agreed to pay to be somebody's lackey.
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Of the 10 or so people I have known who went on to become police officers, every one of them had that particular kind of rationale. They wanted to prove that they were important and people should listen to them. No one I have ever known became a cop because they wanted to help serve and protect the citizens, or even just because they needed a job, they all wanted power over people.
Obviously, this is anecdotal. I am sure there are literally dozens of police officers who did it for the right reasons.
That's not entirely accurate. People don't choose to become black guys because it will give them a position of power and authority and a gun to make people have to listen to them,
But this is on a computer... On the internet. That's like double implicit innovation.
No. I was actually kind of hoping someone could contradict me. I mean I see a lot of "We know everything this woman did was reprehensible" from blog sites like this, and when I read about it in the Post-Dispatch way back when, then certainly played it off as Drew was directly responsible for the account, and was sending the messages. They later backed off that and started pointing out that Drew created the account, which was backed off to it was a collaboration. Then Grills assistant started popping into the reports.
Basically, the only credible information I have is the linked articles, the St. Louis Post Dispatch articles, and NPR radio. All of which imply that Drew is a horrible person and directly responsible, but none of which has ever even stepped out on a limb to say Drew was directly involved in anything except maybe creating the account.
I just want someone to show me if we're going to burn the witch, do we have more reasonable proof than if she weighs the same as a duck?
I have been reading about this case for some time. So far the known points are Lori Drew may have been aware that her assistant (Grills) and daughter were putting together a fake MySpace account to "befriend" one Megan Meier. The assistant and daughter exchanged messaged with the Meir girl pretending to be a boy from Florida who was interested in her. After something upset the real life relationship with the Drew daughter and the Meier girl, the daughter and Grills started using the fake MySpace account to send mean-spirited messages to Megan. Culminating in Grills sending a message telling Megan the world would be better off without her.
You may not have noticed, but the only involvement ever mentioned in connection with Lori Drew is that she may have been aware the account was created. She did not herself create the account. She did not herself send messages to Megan Meier. She did not tell Meier to kill herself.
How does this qualify as "Grade-A Sociopath"? I don't see that anything she did qualifies as wrong, let alone immoral, or illegal.
But Dammit! we need vengeance, and we already gave immunity to Grills if she agreed to testify, so...
In The Armageddon Factor (1979) an old friend of the Doctor referred to him as Theta Sigma. For all intents and purposes, this was his real name. In The Happiness Patrol (1988) The doctor said (paraphrase) My old college nickname was Theta Sigma (and now we are back to not knowing his real name as it was just a nickname).
The 12 regeneration limit was added in as an arbitrary plot point to give a impetus to a single character in a specific episode. With a single stroke of the pen a Time Lord could only regenerate 12 times. This is fiction, as a result, with a single stroke of the pen the limitation could be removed. We knew the Doctor's real name for 8 years, before it was removed as easily as it was put in.
The deified Robert Holmes had a bit of tendency to demystify the Doctor, which is a bit of a shame. Of course, he never expected people would be talking about Doctor Who 45 years after it started (note: Robert Holmes not only created the 12 regeneration limit, he also wrote the majority of the episode which implied the Tom Baker Doctor is the 8th or 9th Doctor).
I did fork over the money for a OpenBSD 4.3 CD, and I installed it on one machine. A few months later I was going to install it a second time, and the CD was nowhere to be found. I suspect they send out Daemons to sneak into your house and steal copies of your CDs so you have to buy it again (note: yes I am aware that they have downloadable ISOs now, that doesn't stop me from wanting to contribute to a good project).
"Proctonomics"... There is nothing about the sound of that I don't like.
but "random numbers" sounds so much nicer than rectally extracted data points.
(iFusion and iTeleport also work)
... but may result in a trademark infringement case from Apple
Actually, my analogy was pretty good, because it translated very well. I was going to recommend you could build a mechanical guard dog that attacked what it considered intruders.
You building and training your mechanical guard dog doesn't mean me designing and deploying my robots to ambush you and your neighbors is a protected "free speech". I shouldn't be allowed to harass you endlessly and say "You had no right to know who I was; therefore, you shouldn't be able to know that I knew you told me not to trespass," as a legal defense.
If I am selling something door-to-door and I come to your door and you tell me to leave, I must leave your premises or I am committing trespass. I cannot say, "No, wait, now I am 'BlueCowHide'" and try again to make the sale again.
Now, let us suppose I could make an army of robots that attempted to make the sales for me, and of course they speak very poorly, sometimes you aren't sure what they are even selling, and sometimes they lied about anything and just recited random words, and they all lied to you about who they were (some of them even said they were you). And they ignored your requests they leave, and all of your neighbors had a horde of my robots at their doors having the same problems. Would you be saying that I am protecting my first amendment rights because you owned a door where my robots were able to try to contact you?
I am merely curious.
As someone who write all of his jokes in base 13, this is the 20th birthday which everyone appreciates.
The problem with the Misinformed, Incorrect, or Complete BS mod would be that the moderator is just as likely to be incorrect or misinformed. I mean you could say something like: Planes were hijacked and flown into the WTC, and a "truther" with mod points is going to knock you down.
Also, there is a tendency to get into religious debate on here. You say, "I believe in God" or "There is no scientific evidence for the existence of God" and either way someone will think you are misinformed.
Grammar nazis and the like will have a field day with misused apostrophes, and Maths junkies will go ballistic about minor algebraic errors.
It seems wrong to loose karma from zealous moderation, not that it doesn't happen presently, but I fear it would be far more prevalent if you could injure someone for having a mild disagreement with them. What would be must useful, would be a "I found this comment useful", thumbs up/down system that didn't affect karma. Especially if you could still respond to the comment, and didn't have to hope you happen to have mod points when the brain-staining statement was made.
Yes, I have seen those "WTF are you talking about" posts too. I do sympathize.
Most of the world (non-US) writes 22/7. They also write 14/3. So why is this international Pi day?
Why would you buy your own property?
I cannot speak for the rest of the world, let alone this country (US), but in my state (MO) we have a "Personal Property Tax". Basically, If anything you own is worth more than about $1000 you are supposed to declare it and pay PPT on it (Most people only declare vehicles, but you are supposed to declare things like large screen televisions, expensive appliances, etc). So If someone from my state creates some IP that he believes is worth more than $1000 and will sue anyone for "stealing" it (no, I am not going to get into a whole theft/copyright infringement thing right here), there is some justification for demanding they pay PPT on it.
I try to do all three at once. I'm a very busy man.
Real life example: Richard Roundtree (that's right Shaft got breast cancer)
A white noise generator? Bah... What systems need are pop-o-matic bubbles with m * 2^n sided dice to generate m * n bits. It could even put a window up saying, "The entropy pool is depleted. Please press the pop-o-matic bubble to generate more."
That would be awesome
So, why didn't you write infinity out as a number?
But jail would be a 24 hour a day 365 days a year job. That comes out to 8760 hours a year (plus 1 - 2 leap years, which I'll discount for the purpose of this post). The standard US man year is 2080 hours. So $60,000 per year is $28.85 an hour (rounding up). While their "job" will be $6.85 an hour (because remember they can't go home, or out for pizza, or a night out to the bar, etc at any point in the five years). That comes out to $14,248 at the standard 2080 hours in a man year.
You know, sometimes the courts don't work. Sometimes they favor the entity with larger funds. For example, a woman who clearly never even possessed the software Kazaa was sued by Capitol records recently and lost a $222,000 judgment even though the only evidence they had was a screenshot of files she was serving through Kazaa. Some people would rather be a little poorer and covered rather than be right and bankrupt.
Microsoft does have a large patent portfolio. If you want to know which patents they will claim Linux infringes on, find a changelog from RedHat. For every new thing that shows up, add 2 - 3 months to the date, and look for Microsoft patents filed then. Yes, that screams prior art, but do you really think it would be hard for Microsoft to stuff a jury with people who don't understand prior art?
I mean, you did know that A method for allowing a software vendor to notify a user of a software update is disclosed is a Microsoft patent filed in 1998?
Microsoft didn't just make the SOAP specification, they filed a patent on it. Any SOAP using system (like Perl, PHP, Python, etc) would infringe on this patent.
I sure hope network transactions aren't optimized by offloading the work to the NIC in Linux or else they would run afoul of a MS patent.
Even Sun RPC isn't immune (and filed only 10 years late, according to RFC 1057).
Microsoft's patents are wrong, and immoral, and frequently violating prior art, but they do exist. So it does make sense from a business perspective for Novell sign an agreement with Microsoft to avoid a lawsuit which they may not win in spite of the law.
That said, I stopped using SuSE myself. I tend toward Fedora and Ubuntu these days.
6 of our 10 BSA member products (id est: the non-free ones) were Windows (XP Pro and 2000). I cannot find any terms in the EULA (Note: this is the terms for Genuine Advantage, but most MS EULAs are essentially the same) where I agree to perform inventorying on the system at my own cost and expense to be made available at their request. I cannot locate a Mac OS X EULA, but I don't remember that in there either. The other two were an ancient (1996) VB compiler (Which is still MS and is probably an even more primitive version of linked one), and Delphi EULA (pdf) which states they have the right to terminate the license if we breach any of the conditions, but does not say that we at our own expense must perform the work necessary to prove we aren't in violation of these terms.
I frequently do read license agreements (exclusions are GPL, LGPL, BSD, Apache, or others that I am quite sure what the terms are as I have already read them). I have never agreed to pay to be somebody's lackey.