In one case, a person is asking for the ability to express ideas and opinions contrary to the herd mind without being attacked verbally, physically or economically.
In the other, a person is asking for the ability to attack people verbally, physically and economically for expressing ideas and opinions contrary to the herd mind.
One of those is the very foundation of government as an entity exercising a monopoly of violence. The other is Orwellian. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to connect those definitions with the philosophies expressed, and the parties involved.
P.S. I will rebut-in-advance the typical reply in hopes that some of you will think before responding. "Marxists define speech they dislike as violence, and violence they agree with as speech."
No, no! This is an official Mdsolar Anti-Nuke Story(tm). You are not allowed to bring facts or data into the discussion. You are not allowed to mention hormesis. You must bow down before LNT. You must, like the doctors in the article, speak in vague generalities - "Well gosh, radiation is invisible and scary. Forget the data, anything at all could happen if you get some in your body!"
I've come to recognize that Nuclear Derangement Syndrome was a practice run. The symptoms are identical to the new trendy disease: Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Right now, the final dose evaluation for the first 65 bioassays show a small number of employees with a dose of less than or equal to 1 millirem. Internal exposures are doses that are measured in millirem the person is expected to receive over the span of 50 years.
For context, CH2M has an administrative dose limit of 500 millirem per year, which are well below the legal limits of 5,000 millirem per year. The results received show a very low internal contamination dose that is significantly less than a typical chest x-ray.
Up to 1 millirem over the next 50 years. This is essentially the lower cutoff of the test being used. It means that it is enough that the test can detect that something is there, but not so much that it can be quantified. With sensitive gear, you could get that result from a nanorem-range emitter. Or, from a 500 microrem emitter.
Basically, if you add up all of the radiation dose received by one of the "contaminated" people for the rest of their life, it is 0.2% of the company's annual limit, or 0.02% of the regulatory annual exposure limit. Oh, and the regulatory exposure limit has a lot of safety margin built in, according to the medical data.
Basically, this story's headline should be "Holy shit, we've got amazing technology for detecting tiny traces of radioactivity."
If you read what I wrote closely, or check the link I posted, you'll notice that I'm not talking about a law or a policy. If it was a law or a policy against nuclear power, there wouldn't be a half-built plant to shut down.
Instead, they've found ways to delay the construction and multiply the costs - until the project is bankrupted, if they can manage it.
Originally scheduled to come online by 2018, the V.C. Summer nuclear project in South Carolina had been plagued by disputes with regulators and numerous construction problems.
This is by design. The left has seized this approach above all others to kill nuclear power plants.
They have networks of friendly lawyers who file bogus suits before amenable judges. They have friendly regulators that change the rules midstream. The effect is delay, delay, delay. And that means cost, cost, cost. While tthe construction site sits idle, the utility often has to pay a squadron of union electricians and/or plumbers to sit around while it is resolved in court or while engineering updates the plans to take into account the newest retarded rule change.
The key word isn't "listening device", it is "covert". Hackers can turn an overt listening device into a covert listening device. Kinda like how Android malware can turn your Google/AT&T spying device into a Google/AT&T/other spying device.
I have a drill coming up soon for my local reception center. I'll forward this to my EMS coordinator and make sure she updates the station briefing to include that the portals are never to be left unattended and that unauthorized personnel are not to mess with them. Not that anyone was going to leave them alone or let strangers tamper with them before...
In the end, the most likely "patch" will be a locking cover.
It remains unclear to me how one would hack a portal monitor to detect and respond to the check source, but not to actual contamination. The opposite would be easier, but we'd notice by the time a second clean body showed up for decontamination.
The perimeter monitors are a much bigger problem. The men-with-guns are unlikely to allow physical tampering, and the men-in-tyvek will certainly notice that the detected radioactive cloud isn't real, but "no one will ever want to hack my industrial control communication" disease needs to die a horrible flaming death sooner rather than later. Digital sensors that do anything more than update a pretty graph need to be authenticated. In cases other than this one, they may need to be encrypted too. Analog sensors need 100% physical security from the power supply to the sensor to the receiver/monitor.
Once upon a time, I read pretty much every post made on ECF. Between that and me talking to other people, I think I've heard over 1000 stories from people who have quit, or tried to quit, or intend to keep smoking after exposure to electronic cigarettes. I have come to the conclusion that different people have different levels to tendency towards addiction to the other alkyloids.
The short version is that personal anecdotes don't necessarily apply to you.
If someone is not at all addictable by other alkyloids, they pick up an e-cigarette one day, and never smoke again. Which is fantastic for them, but when they generalize that to everyone, they can cause a lot of harm. (note to beheaderaswp, I'm not accusing you of this - your post just seemed like the logical place to post this) Genetically thin people have a similar problem - they ascribe their thinness to some imaginary moral virtue and then berate others for not exercising this virtue they think they have.
Different people have different tendencies to gain weight. Some stay thin no matter what they do. Some people are OK as long as their eating isn't completely stupid. Other people need to be very active and careful about controlling their diet if they want to stay thin. Similar thing to smoking addiction - some people just aren't wired for it, some people will get addicted, but can quit without too much difficulty, and some people, once exposed, will not be able to live a normal life without it ever again. And there is a diverse range in between the extremes.
So, if a personal anecdote doesn't apply to you, what then? The good news is that there are a LOT of anecdotes out there. Read enough of them and you'll come up with something that has a good chance to work for you. The other good news is that this is still young, barely out of infancy. If your solution doesn't exist yet, it probably will soon.
My general advice, based on my own experiences, and what I've distilled from the stories of hundreds of others is this: Try an electronic cigarette. If it works and you don't need to smoke any more - great. If you still smoke, try a gradual reduction. If that works - great. If you can't get to zero gradually, try snus when you feel weakest. If that works - great. As far as I can tell, the majority of people are done by the time we get here, and we are on the edge of the current knowledge. At this point, people branch out. Some live their lives with ecigs + snus. Some live with ecigs + a few cigarettes a day. Some are pushing the envelope with exotic vaping fluids. And, sadly, some give up and just go back to smoking.
Personally, I'm down from ~2 packs a day to 2-4 cigarettes on weekdays, 4-6/day on weekends and sometimes more when I'm driving a lot or working in the garage. And I'm OK with that for now, since I know that I can sustain it for years at a time. I've used snus to reduce down to zero before, but that state is fragile for me - very easy to end back up at 2 packs a day from there.
Quite possibly there was a meeting where the whys and hows were discussed, and someone taking notes just wrote "Passengers should not check comics" because obviously, everyone reading that would just understand that this is specific case #157 of the general advice to always keep your valuables in your carry-on. But then the person reading the notes sees "TSA says no comics in checked bags" and hilarity ensues...
I've been using Slackware since before Slackware 96 (a Windows 95 joke, you see, and my memory is dim, but I seem to recall that there was once some semi-serious questions on which one would be released first) and I haven't yet found anything I wanted to do that I couldn't do in Slackware.
Mythtv backends? Slackware. Frontends? Slackware. Webserver? File server? Mail server? DNS server? All Slackware. iptables/ebtables bridge/router/firewall/VPN abomination? Slackware, baby!
Runs great on my litebook too. In fact, not counting my Pis and other appliances, the only linux box I have that isn't Slackware and probably won't ever become Slackware is my CNC controller - and that is because EMC comes as an installable/live ISO.
My personal favorite was setting up iSCSI targets. The examples and documentation are all written for enterprise distros, but they just wouldn't work. Load slackware, write a couple of slackbuild files, fire up the compiler and BAM! $10,000 in hardware outperforms the dedicated SAN boxes other people are spending 6 digits on. Hell, I think I paid less for my entire DRBD bulk slave than some of the quotes that I got for annual maintenance on commercial SAN "solutions".
Oh, and if I recall correctly, Patrick is one of the handful of other 4-digit UIDs still active here. I haven't talked to him in a while. If he is still in MN, I should make a point of getting up to his remote part of the state to buy him a beer.
I've taken to calling the dates on pill bottles the "warranty date", and I refer to the contents as being "out of warranty" instead of "expired". Ditto lots of food.
It is easy for me, but hard on the girlfriend. She can watch me eat a can of Chili that has been out of warranty for 5 years (making it 7 or 8 years old) and know that it is fine, but still be unable to take a bite herself.
Same problem with pills. A big bottle of ibuprofen costs just a little bit more than a small bottle, so if I need 2 pairs of pills, I'll almost always spend the extra $2 to get 200 instead of 50, or whatever. If I don't need them again for 4 years, it doesn't bother me at all that they've gone off warranty along the way.
Disgust is wired very deeply in the brain, even though the higher layers of the brain interact with it. And for most people, it is nearly impossible to overcome.
Though your example of Obamacare repeal is exactly on point, and there are other similar examples that one could point to, the Republicans, generally speaking, have a different pathology. What I am talking about is the dominant behavior of the two groups. Most of the Republicans do it occasionally, and some of them do it often - but pretty much all of the Democrats do it pretty much all of the time now.
With that in mind, discussing the Republicans and their problems would be off topic for this story, though I certainly do discuss them when appropriate.
I am eager for the end of both parties as they existed during my adult life. I believe that the Republican party is fixable, meaning that I think it contains elements that are in harmony with my political beliefs and that those elements are capable of asserting leadership over the party in general.
I see no such potential in the Democrat party. Notice that Trump's economic plan is essentially JFK's economic plan (Reagan's too). What was a little bit left-wing 50 years ago is today too far right for a Republican President to get his party fully behind, and is denounced as domestic terrorism by Democrats.
This is a fundraising bill. It is designed to look good on a letter sent to Democrats in a couple of districts in hopes that they will send money to the reelection campaigns of the bill's sponsors.
It is functionally identical to the "questions" asked by Democrats during confirmation or committee hearings, or the statements made by Democrats during bill debates. The questions aren't seeking information, the statements aren't swaying votes, and this "bill" isn't intended to ever become a law.
I'll quote it for you, but if you didn't read it the first time, I don't have high hopes that you'll read it on the second try:
"HanAssholeSolo" posted his apology before we *ever* spoke him. He called us afterwards to apologize further.
He wants to give the impression that HanAssholeSolo had an epiphany and decided to post an apology on reddit after he saw Trump's tweet, but really, he just got scared after reading an email from CNN that said something like "We found you, asshole. Remember Eich? Remember Scalise? We are about to make sure that everyone knows who you are and where you live."
CNN coerced him to apologize by threatening to dox him, and now is claiming that he called them to apologize first. Check the timestamps and archive links here.
Long article, but well worth the read. On this topic, from the section "The Four Horsemen of Male Emancipation", the fourth is "Male Economic Disengagement and Resultant Tax-Base Erosion".
Earlier passages have highlighted how even the most stridently egomaniacal 'feminist' is heavily dependent on male endeavors. I will repeat again that there will never, ever be a successful human society where men have no incentive to aspire to the full maximum of their productive and entrepreneurial capabilities.
The contract between the sexes has been broken in urban America (although is still in some effect in rural America). The 'progressive' income tax scale in the US was levied under the assumption that men who could earn 10 times more than they needed for themselves would always do so, for their families. A man with no such familial aspirations may choose an easier job at lower pay, costing the state more than he costs himself. Less tax revenue not just means fewer subsidies for single mothers and government jobs for women, but less money for law enforcement. Less tax revenue also means fewer police officers, and fewer court resources through which to imprison men. The 'feminist' hypergamous utopia is not self-financing, but is precariously dependent on every beta man working at his full capacity, without which the government bubble, inseparable from the misandry bubble, collapses. Misandry is thus mathematically impossible to finance for any extended period of time. A state with a small government is far more sustainable than a state seeking an ever-expanding government, which then cannot be financed, and descends into a mass of contradictions that is the exact opposite of what the statists intended. See the gangster capitalism that dominates contemporary Russia.
Yes, I'll quickly go and fix the cost of installing the last mile wiring to my house
While I don't know your actual physical situation, I can promise you that for most people reading this, the "last mile" is not the problem. Have you looked into the actual cost? Do you have any idea how much the cable companies expects to pay per subscriber anyway? Or are you just assuming that the economics don't work?
Where I live, local governments are not allowed to give a monopoly to any one provider.
There are about a dozen non-obvious way to grant a de facto monopoly that are all designed to skirt around such bans. Have you talked to the small cable companies in your area to ask them why they aren't expanding? Or are you just assuming that there are no roadblocks?
The only real way to fix it is to force last mile owners to make their infrastructure available to competitors at cost or near cost.
This is a nightmare. Or, at least it was when it was imposed on the telcos. If you know of a way to make it work, please share with the rest of us. I'm in favor of this idea, in theory. But I've seen it crash and burn too many times in practice.
I don't have a problem with co-ops or even cities building or buying a physical plant and operating it. I don't support confiscation when the current owner doesn't want to sell. And they must be operated by a fanatic - someone absolutely committed to open access. I expect that we'll end up in more-or-less this situation eventually, except without the benevolent dictators.
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I can't tell if this is satire, or a genuine error.
A world of difference.
In one case, a person is asking for the ability to express ideas and opinions contrary to the herd mind without being attacked verbally, physically or economically.
In the other, a person is asking for the ability to attack people verbally, physically and economically for expressing ideas and opinions contrary to the herd mind.
One of those is the very foundation of government as an entity exercising a monopoly of violence. The other is Orwellian. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to connect those definitions with the philosophies expressed, and the parties involved.
P.S. I will rebut-in-advance the typical reply in hopes that some of you will think before responding. "Marxists define speech they dislike as violence, and violence they agree with as speech."
Don't you think it would have been a good idea to find out the difference between a rad and a rem before you typed that all out?
No, no! This is an official Mdsolar Anti-Nuke Story(tm). You are not allowed to bring facts or data into the discussion. You are not allowed to mention hormesis. You must bow down before LNT. You must, like the doctors in the article, speak in vague generalities - "Well gosh, radiation is invisible and scary. Forget the data, anything at all could happen if you get some in your body!"
I've come to recognize that Nuclear Derangement Syndrome was a practice run. The symptoms are identical to the new trendy disease: Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Up to 1 millirem over the next 50 years. This is essentially the lower cutoff of the test being used. It means that it is enough that the test can detect that something is there, but not so much that it can be quantified. With sensitive gear, you could get that result from a nanorem-range emitter. Or, from a 500 microrem emitter.
Basically, if you add up all of the radiation dose received by one of the "contaminated" people for the rest of their life, it is 0.2% of the company's annual limit, or 0.02% of the regulatory annual exposure limit. Oh, and the regulatory exposure limit has a lot of safety margin built in, according to the medical data.
Basically, this story's headline should be "Holy shit, we've got amazing technology for detecting tiny traces of radioactivity."
If you read what I wrote closely, or check the link I posted, you'll notice that I'm not talking about a law or a policy. If it was a law or a policy against nuclear power, there wouldn't be a half-built plant to shut down.
Instead, they've found ways to delay the construction and multiply the costs - until the project is bankrupted, if they can manage it.
This is by design. The left has seized this approach above all others to kill nuclear power plants.
They have networks of friendly lawyers who file bogus suits before amenable judges. They have friendly regulators that change the rules midstream. The effect is delay, delay, delay. And that means cost, cost, cost. While tthe construction site sits idle, the utility often has to pay a squadron of union electricians and/or plumbers to sit around while it is resolved in court or while engineering updates the plans to take into account the newest retarded rule change.
A few years delay can double the cost.
See also: http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~bl... (old, but good)
The key word isn't "listening device", it is "covert". Hackers can turn an overt listening device into a covert listening device. Kinda like how Android malware can turn your Google/AT&T spying device into a Google/AT&T/other spying device.
Which part of this is "news for nerds"? That the widow of a guy that used to manage engineers is redecorating her portfolio?
I have a drill coming up soon for my local reception center. I'll forward this to my EMS coordinator and make sure she updates the station briefing to include that the portals are never to be left unattended and that unauthorized personnel are not to mess with them. Not that anyone was going to leave them alone or let strangers tamper with them before...
In the end, the most likely "patch" will be a locking cover.
It remains unclear to me how one would hack a portal monitor to detect and respond to the check source, but not to actual contamination. The opposite would be easier, but we'd notice by the time a second clean body showed up for decontamination.
The perimeter monitors are a much bigger problem. The men-with-guns are unlikely to allow physical tampering, and the men-in-tyvek will certainly notice that the detected radioactive cloud isn't real, but "no one will ever want to hack my industrial control communication" disease needs to die a horrible flaming death sooner rather than later. Digital sensors that do anything more than update a pretty graph need to be authenticated. In cases other than this one, they may need to be encrypted too. Analog sensors need 100% physical security from the power supply to the sensor to the receiver/monitor.
Once upon a time, I read pretty much every post made on ECF. Between that and me talking to other people, I think I've heard over 1000 stories from people who have quit, or tried to quit, or intend to keep smoking after exposure to electronic cigarettes. I have come to the conclusion that different people have different levels to tendency towards addiction to the other alkyloids.
The short version is that personal anecdotes don't necessarily apply to you.
If someone is not at all addictable by other alkyloids, they pick up an e-cigarette one day, and never smoke again. Which is fantastic for them, but when they generalize that to everyone, they can cause a lot of harm. (note to beheaderaswp, I'm not accusing you of this - your post just seemed like the logical place to post this) Genetically thin people have a similar problem - they ascribe their thinness to some imaginary moral virtue and then berate others for not exercising this virtue they think they have.
Different people have different tendencies to gain weight. Some stay thin no matter what they do. Some people are OK as long as their eating isn't completely stupid. Other people need to be very active and careful about controlling their diet if they want to stay thin. Similar thing to smoking addiction - some people just aren't wired for it, some people will get addicted, but can quit without too much difficulty, and some people, once exposed, will not be able to live a normal life without it ever again. And there is a diverse range in between the extremes.
So, if a personal anecdote doesn't apply to you, what then? The good news is that there are a LOT of anecdotes out there. Read enough of them and you'll come up with something that has a good chance to work for you. The other good news is that this is still young, barely out of infancy. If your solution doesn't exist yet, it probably will soon.
My general advice, based on my own experiences, and what I've distilled from the stories of hundreds of others is this: Try an electronic cigarette. If it works and you don't need to smoke any more - great. If you still smoke, try a gradual reduction. If that works - great. If you can't get to zero gradually, try snus when you feel weakest. If that works - great. As far as I can tell, the majority of people are done by the time we get here, and we are on the edge of the current knowledge. At this point, people branch out. Some live their lives with ecigs + snus. Some live with ecigs + a few cigarettes a day. Some are pushing the envelope with exotic vaping fluids. And, sadly, some give up and just go back to smoking.
Personally, I'm down from ~2 packs a day to 2-4 cigarettes on weekdays, 4-6/day on weekends and sometimes more when I'm driving a lot or working in the garage. And I'm OK with that for now, since I know that I can sustain it for years at a time. I've used snus to reduce down to zero before, but that state is fragile for me - very easy to end back up at 2 packs a day from there.
If by misbehavior you are talking about something criminal, your safest bet is to arrest, detain and turn over to the police.
Personally, I prefer the "successful predictions" measure of validity.
Sorry man -
http://www.cdaccess.com/html/p...
http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-lin...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
More likely, it was something like this:
TSA: Passengers should not check their comics.
United: No comics in checked bags.
Quite possibly there was a meeting where the whys and hows were discussed, and someone taking notes just wrote "Passengers should not check comics" because obviously, everyone reading that would just understand that this is specific case #157 of the general advice to always keep your valuables in your carry-on. But then the person reading the notes sees "TSA says no comics in checked bags" and hilarity ensues...
Did I miss some big news? When did snopes go back to being a fact checking site?
I've been using Slackware since before Slackware 96 (a Windows 95 joke, you see, and my memory is dim, but I seem to recall that there was once some semi-serious questions on which one would be released first) and I haven't yet found anything I wanted to do that I couldn't do in Slackware.
Mythtv backends? Slackware. Frontends? Slackware. Webserver? File server? Mail server? DNS server? All Slackware. iptables/ebtables bridge/router/firewall/VPN abomination? Slackware, baby!
Runs great on my litebook too. In fact, not counting my Pis and other appliances, the only linux box I have that isn't Slackware and probably won't ever become Slackware is my CNC controller - and that is because EMC comes as an installable/live ISO.
My personal favorite was setting up iSCSI targets. The examples and documentation are all written for enterprise distros, but they just wouldn't work. Load slackware, write a couple of slackbuild files, fire up the compiler and BAM! $10,000 in hardware outperforms the dedicated SAN boxes other people are spending 6 digits on. Hell, I think I paid less for my entire DRBD bulk slave than some of the quotes that I got for annual maintenance on commercial SAN "solutions".
Oh, and if I recall correctly, Patrick is one of the handful of other 4-digit UIDs still active here. I haven't talked to him in a while. If he is still in MN, I should make a point of getting up to his remote part of the state to buy him a beer.
I've taken to calling the dates on pill bottles the "warranty date", and I refer to the contents as being "out of warranty" instead of "expired". Ditto lots of food.
It is easy for me, but hard on the girlfriend. She can watch me eat a can of Chili that has been out of warranty for 5 years (making it 7 or 8 years old) and know that it is fine, but still be unable to take a bite herself.
Same problem with pills. A big bottle of ibuprofen costs just a little bit more than a small bottle, so if I need 2 pairs of pills, I'll almost always spend the extra $2 to get 200 instead of 50, or whatever. If I don't need them again for 4 years, it doesn't bother me at all that they've gone off warranty along the way.
Disgust is wired very deeply in the brain, even though the higher layers of the brain interact with it. And for most people, it is nearly impossible to overcome.
Though your example of Obamacare repeal is exactly on point, and there are other similar examples that one could point to, the Republicans, generally speaking, have a different pathology. What I am talking about is the dominant behavior of the two groups. Most of the Republicans do it occasionally, and some of them do it often - but pretty much all of the Democrats do it pretty much all of the time now.
With that in mind, discussing the Republicans and their problems would be off topic for this story, though I certainly do discuss them when appropriate.
I am eager for the end of both parties as they existed during my adult life. I believe that the Republican party is fixable, meaning that I think it contains elements that are in harmony with my political beliefs and that those elements are capable of asserting leadership over the party in general.
I see no such potential in the Democrat party. Notice that Trump's economic plan is essentially JFK's economic plan (Reagan's too). What was a little bit left-wing 50 years ago is today too far right for a Republican President to get his party fully behind, and is denounced as domestic terrorism by Democrats.
Can we be honest with ourselves for a moment?
This is a fundraising bill. It is designed to look good on a letter sent to Democrats in a couple of districts in hopes that they will send money to the reelection campaigns of the bill's sponsors.
It is functionally identical to the "questions" asked by Democrats during confirmation or committee hearings, or the statements made by Democrats during bill debates. The questions aren't seeking information, the statements aren't swaying votes, and this "bill" isn't intended to ever become a law.
I'll quote it for you, but if you didn't read it the first time, I don't have high hopes that you'll read it on the second try:
He wants to give the impression that HanAssholeSolo had an epiphany and decided to post an apology on reddit after he saw Trump's tweet, but really, he just got scared after reading an email from CNN that said something like "We found you, asshole. Remember Eich? Remember Scalise? We are about to make sure that everyone knows who you are and where you live."
Here is the allegedly anti-semitic image behind that accusation
CNN coerced him to apologize by threatening to dox him, and now is claiming that he called them to apologize first. Check the timestamps and archive links here.
Which has caused a whole big pile of new anti-CNN memes. My favorites are the ISIS apology video ones. example here. And another. Also, this guy showed up. Even the theater in the park got involved.
Looks like pretty much everyone is now piling on. Here is Julian Assange, Donald Trump Jr., the Washington Times.
It is pretty much the only topic now on The_Donald and has numerous threads on /pol/ (warning, NSFL). Front and center on Breitbart News and Drudge.
Oh, and the guy's identity is pretty much out there already, making their threat moot.
The Misandry Bubble
Long article, but well worth the read. On this topic, from the section "The Four Horsemen of Male Emancipation", the fourth is "Male Economic Disengagement and Resultant Tax-Base Erosion".
While I don't know your actual physical situation, I can promise you that for most people reading this, the "last mile" is not the problem. Have you looked into the actual cost? Do you have any idea how much the cable companies expects to pay per subscriber anyway? Or are you just assuming that the economics don't work?
There are about a dozen non-obvious way to grant a de facto monopoly that are all designed to skirt around such bans. Have you talked to the small cable companies in your area to ask them why they aren't expanding? Or are you just assuming that there are no roadblocks?
This is a nightmare. Or, at least it was when it was imposed on the telcos. If you know of a way to make it work, please share with the rest of us. I'm in favor of this idea, in theory. But I've seen it crash and burn too many times in practice.
I don't have a problem with co-ops or even cities building or buying a physical plant and operating it. I don't support confiscation when the current owner doesn't want to sell. And they must be operated by a fanatic - someone absolutely committed to open access. I expect that we'll end up in more-or-less this situation eventually, except without the benevolent dictators.