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Feds Crack Trump Protesters' Phones To Charge Them With Felony Rioting (thedailybeast.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Daily Beast: Officials seized Trump protesters' cell phones, cracked their passwords, and are now attempting to use the contents to convict them of conspiracy to riot at the presidential inauguration. Prosecutors have indicted over 200 people on felony riot charges for protests in Washington, D.C. on January 20 that broke windows and damaged vehicles. Some defendants face up to 75 years in prison, despite little evidence against them. But a new court filing reveals that investigators have been able to crack into at least eight defendants' locked cell phones. Now prosecutors want to use the internet history, communications, and pictures they extracted from the phones as evidence against the defendants in court. [A] July 21 court document shows that investigators were successful in opening the locked phones. The July 21 filing moved to enter evidence from eight seized phones, six of which were "encrypted" and two of which were not encrypted. A Department of Justice representative confirmed that "encrypted" meant additional privacy settings beyond a lock screen. For the six encrypted phones, investigators were able to compile "a short data report which identifies the phone number associated with the cell phone and limited other information about the phone itself," the filing says. But investigators appear to have bypassed the lock on the two remaining phones to access the entirety of their contents.
Or word of mouth or other old-school methods. The internet is public, remember.
"Prosecutors have indicted over 200 people on felony riot charges for protests in Washington, D.C. on January 20 that broke windows and damaged vehicles."
"protests ... that broke windows and damaged vehicles."
So... a riot. Not a protest, a riot.
Worked for this guy.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Good.
Moral of the story: Don't conspire to riot with your cell phone...and then take it to the riot you planned...
Seems fairly reasonable to me!
Sure sounds like justice is being served. Next time you want to protest, protest. Don't behave like a criminal and riot.
IANAL but based on my reading of past judgments, the protesters usually do not high jail time. Otherwise, the Oregon Bundy guys would be in jail by now for threatening fed agents. At most they will be charged with misdemeanor unless someone was hurt seriously enough. Otherwise, it will be compensation, community services, probation or a small jail time.
upon which one cannot rely
No, it didn't.. What got the Man's attention is when he got folks to boycott the buses. He hit them in the pocket book.
Protests - marching in the street do nothing. When King protested, the authorities gave him the permits, let him protest, and the protestors cleared out and life went on - unchanged.
And as far as the Trump protestors are concerned, just what did they think they'd accomplish? Really, what?
The folks who voted for him dug their heels in - and many still have no doubts.
The folks who hate him felt good seeing the protests or participated in them.
The folks who became violent were jerks and hurt their cause. The black hoody folks who smashed shit are just assholes and deserve to have their faces bashed in by the cops.
And sorry, Trump won according to our laws. Like it or not, he did. We are country of the rule of law and if we start applying them to what is popular only, we will be headed for some serious upheaval and unrest.
Don't like the situation? Well, voter turnout is still only a fraction of the eligible voters. And if those folks spent the time voting and doing the leg work that the Tea Party Republicans are so good at, maybe they too can make changes.
But it will be slow and tedious.
See, those protestor people want a revolution - they want their way to happen overnight. But if they grew up and took their lesson from the Tea Party, they'd see how to do it.
And now, the Fourth Amendment is yet being shredded even more. All thanks to assholes who don't know how our system works and refuse to work in it.
At least the aren't going after you with the IRS like the Obamanistas did to the Tea Party, who picked up their trash.
When the violence took place (those involved in the violence should be caught and prosecuted) the FBI closed of an entire city block without warning and arrested EVERYONE within the block (this included people going to work, journalists covering the protest, people legitimately protesting and others but not rioting) and charged every single person with rioting whether or not they have any evidence of rioting. They are trying to charge them all as a group and use the evidence against the handful they have evidence of to convict the rest. This is a massive violation of rights.
I pray to god a Judge throws this whole case out and lets the guilty get away with it because of the tactics the FBI and Justice are using to convict innocent people of felonies they did not commit by being on a street when a riot they weren't involved with took place. Make no mistake if Justice is allowed to do this, the next time there is something they can call a riot they will be out there arresting every single person again and YOU might be the one caught up in it by being on a block where something happened.
They crossed the line when they decided to riot.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Good to see the feds hassling someone other than municipal police.
Where can I buy the software, I'd never seen an API to the touchscreen interface for PIN entry from the USB port.
If they don't sell it then there's no capitalism right?
You know he dies at the end, right? Oh, and while we're linking Wikipedia articles how about this one? Only problem is the use of 'was' in the opening line...
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If by "breaking windows" you mean things like "trashing a poor guy's car, the thing he uses to make a living" and whatnot, yeah, convict. Especially since they planned, in advance, to commit violence and then did it. Unlike your Russia delusion, these people actually DID commit crimes, and got caught doing it, violently, on video.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
the mega-donors who created and fund the movement are. Also, they didn't have the Republican lead Congress attacking their main voter turnout organization.
What's that old Gore Vidal quote? "I'm not a conspiracy theorist - I'm a conspiracy analyst.".
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>> Officials seized (rioters) cell phones, cracked their passwords, and are now attempting to use the contents to convict them
If you're dumb enough to wear your tracking device to the scene of the crime, then what do you really expect? Cops have been using location, texts and social media posts to pin perps for at least a decade now.
Discover which of the protesters are transgender so they can't sneak into the military.
Instead of just charging them with what they did, extraordinary measures are being taken to punish these people. The question is, do you honestly think this will make them more or less likely to become politically radicalized? If history has taught us anything then it's that when you up the ante, opponents will respond in kind.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
"hanged" https://www.thoughtco.com/hanged-and-hung-1689567
It's already known that Trump has shown, along with his generals, that the Trans folk are incapable of rising to such levels of physicality and violence because they are continuously worried about their genitals and what's going on with their hormone treatments.
You keep telling yourself that.
... you know, the ones who denied her the electoral college.
But Hillary's lack of being crowned as she demanded and expected was just the latest in a series of events that cost the Democrats nearly a thousand legislative seats, both houses of congress, most of the governorships, and millions of two-time Obama voters who were disgusted by Clinton/DNC overt behavior, never mind reading their obnoxious internal communications. Comey didn't cause Hillary to call millions of the people over whom she wanted to preside irredeemably deplorable racists. Neither Comey nor the Russians used mind control rays to cause Hillary to somehow forget to even set foot in Wisconsin to try to tell the people there something vaguely coherent about why she and her husband should once again get the executive power they craved and with which they enriched themselves.
But please, keep blaming it all on everything except the Democrats' years of snark, sneering condescension and their hatred for the people in flyover country
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
This mess has nothing to do with Trump.
The law is the law, and you don't get an exemption to break it because you're upset about Trump ( or anything else ).
If you riot and trash cars and you get caught, you will be punished, AND YOU WILL DESERVE IT.
The people who are wondering about encryption should know that ANY encryption you can get at your amateur level can be cracked, though parallel construction may be used to avoid revealing that your encryption was broken. Welcome to the adult world. The government has nuclear weapons and you don't. The government can crack your encryption. Don't conspire to do illegal things and you will have no problems.
Some of you who frequent this website seem to think life is a contest in which you can outwit the people or entities you don't like. I can tell you from 40 years of practicing law that very few people are able to pull this off. A lot of people think they can, and nearly all of them end up in prison or on the run. Life is hard enough without behaving in ways that society doesn't accept. Truly intelligent people realize this early on and they live accordingly. People who learn the hard way have tough and unpleasant lives. Chew on that for a while and decide whether you want a shitty life or a good one.
And learn to accept that there are things you are utterly powerless to change. This is the case for all of us humans. There will always be something you don't like, and sometimes you won't be able to do anything about it. People who are adults in the truest sense of the word understand this and deal with it.
Ignoring the fact that Donald Trump didn't make Hillary run an illegal private email server that contained classified information.
They're caught by their own nature. Their portable devices are the link they need to the echo chamber they live in. Can't stand not to be connected to it. Can't stand not to collect the kudos they're due for the virtues they signal.
Well, and if there is evidence that they conspired to destroy property and disrupt the inauguration with violence, they may get convicted. If there continues to be "little evidence against them", they won't get convicted.
So it looks like the question of evidence will be resolved quickly then.
You totally forgot to mention how her DNC cohorts stabbed Bernie in the back and colluded with her, which is what was shown in those DNC emails. And then when DWS stepped down, Hillary doubled-down on her and hired her to a high position in her campaign, effectively thumbing her nose at all the Bernie supporters.
As a result, Dem turnout was low, especially among the Bernie-voting demographic. Many of them who did bother to vote instead voted for a 3rd party (which both saw HUGE gains over the last presidential election), or even for Trump out of spite. According to my recollection, if Hillary had gotten most of those 3rd-party votes, she would have won.
She ran an incredibly condescending campaign, and her supporters were especially smug and condescending. Honestly, I think I'd rather be associated with moronic Trump voters than with the condescending assholes who were vocal Hillary supporters.
Personally, I voted for Stein. Hillary's supporters specifically told me that they didn't need my vote to win, so I didn't give it to her.
Yeah, I don't think those phones were fully encrypted.
Instead of just charging them with what they did, extraordinary measures are being taken to punish these people. The question is, do you honestly think this will make them more or less likely to become politically radicalized? If history has taught us anything then it's that when you up the ante, opponents will respond in kind.
I'm sure the Feds are quaking in their boots that a bunch of hipsters and Prius drivers are going to become radicalized and break bad !
I mean, since the hipsters and Prius drivers all have tanks and helicopters and Predator drones and surveillance capabilities similar to the NSA, the outcome might really be in doubt, and hipsters could soon be sitting in the Oval Office smoking a fattie listening to some EDM.
Or, far more likely, some of those hipsters who misbehave badly enough could find themselves in a Supermax prison with life sentences for attempting to overthrow the government. That's the outcome I'd bet on.
So, radicalize if you like, but be ready for consequences that will be much worse, much longer, and much more unpleasant than you can imagine.
You need to read some history. Protests can work when they're done peacefully and with purpose. Riots just get you crushed, which is what you asked for when you rioted.
Yeah, why don't they try vandalizing Mosques, Abortion Clinics and federal office buildings. Trump's cool with that.
As long as nobody is allowed to canoe past him when he's golfing. That's just wrong. Can't abide it. But he can shut down all reports on right-wing violence.
But you know what's terrible? You can't solve your problems like Aaron Burr did. Isn't that a pity? Almost as bad as having seven years to tackle healthcare reform while being unable to make it anything but an opaque, secretive process, with the main effect being to increase the number of people without insurance.
Tell me, is that truly winning? What kind of victory is it?
This is precisely the kind of distorted nonsense that erodes trust when it comes from "professional journalists".
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
NTR
Peaceful protest is one thing, I've done it myself.
But there was a plot uncovered for an acid attack to occur during the inauguration activities. That is not protest. Certainly not even remotely a peaceful protest planned.
Since the article is sorely lacking in details as to what is being searched for, they state a "riot", I am sticking with they are looking for the acid attack planners. And that is a worthwhile pursuit.
If not, guess what, throwing rocks, bottles, and pipes is a worthwhile reason to search a phone. It's no different from searching a home for hidden child pornography, or a knapsack for molotov cocktails or a car for a cache of guns that a suspected criminal might possess.
If it's felonious behavior, which rioting with acid is, then absolutely search the phones.
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You sound like a Penn State supporter.
Warrantless searching of a person's papers is constitutionally protected. Seems like a really easy way for the charges to be dropped.
"If investigators were able to crack the phonesâ(TM) passwords within their department or through a contract, they would not necessarily have to file any additional court documents, Jennings said.
Police appear to have begun searching at least one phone within a day of its seizure, CityLab reported in January."
"no additional court documents" my eye. Also, a warrant has to specifically denote where the search is to take place, and for what. A, "we will just search through all this person's electronic documents for anything that might be incriminating" is quite a huge over reach even if there were a warrant
From their phone records it is clear that this was not just a protest but an organized conspiracy to cause rioting, destruction, and mayhem where ever they could.
Just will be served on the scumbags that think that bad behavior is allowed. I recommend that they have mid-day nappy taken away, along with video games, and their internet. Oh May, cruel and unusual punishment as this is all these young wankers do all day, besides wanking off.
There's a cure for that...
But of course, most of the republitards I know have no problem with dictatorship, as long as the dictator is a republican.
I get it that most folks don't appreciate the rioting. I certainly don't approve by any stretch of the imagination.
75 years is insane for this. They broke some windows. If the internet wasn't around, they would have used a phone. Conspiracy for some windows breakers? That's ridiculous. Make them fix a few windows and pay a fine. Keep their phones.
because most of what he accomplished is being rapidly rolled back at the first sign of a weak economy. Trump and his AG are _horrible_ for equality and justice but all it took to get them in power was a mess of blue collar guys getting abandoned by the economy. What he accomplished was far too fragile...
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But the violence at Donald's inauguration was stupid and counterproductive. Conservatives already view liberals as entitled elitists who refuse to play by the rules. In the eyes of the right, this rioting confirmed all the worst stereotypes of the left. This is not the way to win people over.
It also confirmed these issues to the undecided voters and youngsters, who are the ones to look out for in the next election cycle.
Before I say it.. hold that thought until the next paragraph. Okay, that said: Now that people are paying attention, it's become obvious that that same crowd that a whole lot of people in the Republican party really aren't the Liberty minded conservatives but behave just like Democrats. Some of these long time incumbents are going to have a very hard time in primaries if the right people run against them. Think about it for a minute, if Kid Rock and Ted Nugent both ran for office, Michigan would be farther right than any State in the Union with very vocal representation. While Terrible Ted isn't running, he could and would probably win with little effort. That thought should give the incumbents on both sides nightmares.
Trump isn't far Right either (which is why I said hold that thought) and quite frankly, barely peeks into the Right. He has a few ideas that are Right leaning, but a whole lot of his platform is far Left "Grow the Government and it's Power" politics with lots of deficit spending. His leadership on ACA repeal shows exactly what he thinks, and it's just like all the others claiming that the Government can solve all of our problems and cure all of our ills. The up and comers won't be very forgiving next election.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I'm _not_ faulting him for his failure. Just lamenting it.
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There's plenty of evidence that non-violent protestors are being prosecuted.
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we call them soccer hooligans. Every time there's a big event they come out. When my local college sports team won a playoff the same damn thing happened. The difference is nobody threatened them with 20 years in jail because it was pretty damn obvious they were hooligans. Here it's still just as obvious they're hooligans the difference is they were protesting a sitting President who doesn't think once about abusing power.
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I think that you forgot to add that she's a boring speaker and clearly in the pocket of the the financial industry.
But " Honestly, I think I'd rather be associated with moronic Trump voters than with the condescending assholes who were vocal Hillary supporters." Really? REALLY? The guy was obviously a sociopath, obviously a moron, and obviously didn't have the best interests of anyone but himself at heart. That was clear from the first month. You want to be associated with people who voted for that instead of the boring business as usual smug woman? "I don't like our home's color. Let's burn it down."
That would certainly describe Obama perfectly.
Do me a favor and copy and paste in the text of the email we should be upset about.
And if you are actually innocent? There appears to be evidence that innocent people were caught up in the dragnet arrests.
Stop assuming that everyone who is arrested is guilty.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
At least the Trump voters had good reason to be angry: they were doing poorly economically. They didn't pick very well in their search for someone to alleviate their problems, but to be fair, the mainstream Democratic party (Hillary and friends) really offered them nothing at all. Bernie's camp was the one talking about income inequality, but Hillary's camp was clearly all in favor of it, since the mainstream Dems are so cozy with wealthy elitist donors and of course the financial sector. It wouldn't have made any sense for the rural conservative voters to vote for Hillary; at least if Bernie were on the ticket we would have spoken to them and offered them something (remember, he's quite popular in rural Vermont).
Hillary's supporters were just plain smug and condescending. Who the hell wants to hang around assholes like that? I'd rather hang around a bunch of dumb, uneducated, but well-meaning hicks than pretentious, smug assholes any time.
There's a good reason almost no one had a Hillary 2016 bumper sticker on their car, even in the very blue areas I frequent. By contrast, I saw tons of 4- and 8-year old Obama campaign stickers, but very very few Hillary ones. That really says something. I'm sure I'm not the only one totally turned off by Hillary's nasty supporters (just like the AC asshole who also replied to me here: he's a perfect example of those condescending shitheads).
Your house-burning analogy makes no sense. I'm talking about people and social dynamics here, not house colors. You can repaint an ugly house easily. You can't turn pretentious, smug dickheads into decent human beings.
There are people on both the left and right fringes that the media uses to sell more papers, draw more TV viewers for news and other politically minded shows, and increase the number of web site links. The media exist for one reason and that is to turn a profit. Large or small every purveyor of "news" shapes their published work to support their editorial line.
The left and right fringe dwellers have over shadowed all the people who are to busy living their lives to protest every imagined slight the screeching mob is complaining about.
when did breaking a window, suddenly rise to the level of riot? isn't this a civil offense?
yeah, if you ignore that his narrow victory was clearly pushed over the top by the illegal interference in the election by the head of the FBI, who was using as ammunition against the Democrat contender a set of emails related to emails which were originally made public by illegal hacking of Democrat computer systems by agents of a foreign power.
This seems almost as silly as the crap Trump says.
Hillary is a thoroughly unlikeable person...and her own worst enemy. Even now, she somehow polls more unfavorably than Trump. Like a lot of people, I held my nose and voted for her, given the alternative - but let's not pretend she was adored by the masses. Even without the emails the Russians hacked and released, Trump still might have won the Electoral College.
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"Stop whining."
-President Barack Obama, on concerns about election interference, October 2016
Good, it's about damn time that the fascist progressives get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They chose to break the law. Obama and his DOJ were lawless enablers, Trump and his administration believe in the rule of law.
The rioters conspired to riot, damage property and assault people, now they are facing jail time. Cry me a river. If you want to have a peaceful protest, that is your right, but as soon as you hide your face and start destroying property and assaulting people, you deserve what you get.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
And what if Obama had done this?
alt-right snowflakes heads exploding.
Maybe Trumpkin can re-start investigating white supremacist groups again, since he's letting his #1 base supports run free.
Let's face it, Trump is a racist fascist. If you disagree ,you don't know what either of those words means.
Some of them ARE comitting felonies. Assault and destruction of property (misdemeanor) are not constitutionally protected rights, no matter how much you might hate someone. Boo hoo, SWJ thugs.
American citizens still have right to due process and protection under the law, even if arrested. Your view of assuming guilt upon arrest is what's wrong with our culture.
One you can break in half when the authorities come for you.....
75 years is insane for this.
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You don't make it obvious whether you are familiar with the court system in the US. Your response does make it seem that you know little or nothing
about how the court system in the US operates.
A scenario which is extremely common is as follows :
1) The prosecutor stacks up as many charges as he can justify, such that the defendant is facing a horrifyingly long sentence in the event of a conviction as a result of a trial. This makes a strategy for risk mitigation look appealing for defendants who are not either crazy or possessed with the sort of courage that would allow someone to die for his principles. Few defendants qualify. Therefore most defendants will be interested in the process called "plea bargaining", which involves concessions on the part of both the prosecution and the defense.
2) The process called "plea bargaining" ensues. During this process, the prosecuting attorney and the defense attorney discuss a possible deal, which is formally known as a "plea agreement". Usually the plea agreement will feature a reduced sentence in exchange for an agreement on the part of the defendant to plea guilty and not take the case to trial. Via this process, both the defense and the prosecution concede something, so neither side can be seen to either win or lose, and both sides get some benefit. The disposition of the case is decided via this plea agreement, and all that remains is a sentencing hearing, in which a judge decides the length of the sentence the defendant will serve.
2)a) At the Federal level this sentencing process is impacted by the Federal Sentencing Guidelines, which are a set of rules that determine the sentence can either be reduced ( shorter time in prison ) or enhanced ( longer time in prison ). Generally the sentencing guidelines are unpopular for a number of reasons. Judges do not like sentencing guidelines because to a great extent the ability of the judge to make a discretionary reduction or increase in the sentence is limited by the guidelines. Also, the very nature of the sentencing guidelines smacks of the sort of thing one would expect from a totalitarian state, which dispenses justice via a machine rather than by a process which involves humans. The attorneys on both sides can and usually will argue for shortening or lengthening the sentence, but to a great extent the length of the sentence is defined by the sentencing guidelines.
In summation, the probability that anyone convicted of involvement in the riots will receive a sentence of 75 years is low. However a defendant who is either convicted via trial or who enters a plea agreement is not going to get what is euphemistically known as a "slap on the wrist". At least one defendant and probably more than one, is going to do some serious time in prison. And I don't mean six months. I mean they are going to prison for a number of years. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. We will have to wait and see.
The law re : conspiracy is a subject unto itself. I will say that it's likely the government WILL be able to prove conspiracy, with the help of evidence the phones are likely to yield. Conspiracy laws are appropriate in this situation, because the protests and riots were pre-arranged via communication among some of the participants. If the government can show that a few people are primarily responsible for the arrangements, well, those people are conspirators and they are going to be treated more harshly by the court system because of this.
This situation is NOT about petty vandalism as you idiotically attempt to suggest in your post ( the implication that it was petty vandalism is something an attorney on either side would laugh at, and the judge would not be amused at such a suggestion either ). These people were acting in a way that disrupted the ability of law abiding citizens in the capital city of the US to peacefully go about their business. And THAT takes it WAY beyond petty vandalism. For this reason, some of those char
At least the Trump voters had good reason to be angry: they were doing poorly economically.
That isn't necessarily a good reason to be angry. Even Ayn Rand knew that. It'd be one thing if they were still angry at the corrupt financial class, but they weren't, were they? (And even if they were, Trump will hardly fix it.)
They were angry that the world was changing, Main Street shutting down, and Amazon taking over from Walmart. What should Hillary do? Turn back the clock?
They didn't pick very well in their search for someone to alleviate their problems, but to be fair, the mainstream Democratic party (Hillary and friends) really offered them nothing at all.
Good for them, it shows integrity, unlike Mr. Carrier-Deal.
The most she could offer would be blood, sweat, toil, and tears, and even then, with a Congress that would piss itself rather hang use her toilet, it would not be fair to say she could give them something to work to achieve.
Bernie's camp was the one talking about income inequality, but Hillary's camp was clearly all in favor of it, since the mainstream Dems are so cozy with wealthy elitist donors and of course the financial sector.
Unfortunately, this is your first really legitimate grievance, but you are about six years too late to bring it up. Obama should have been pushing for prosecutions. Instead, Pelosi cozened him into carrying the bail-out burden.
It wouldn't have made any sense for the rural conservative voters to vote for Hillary; at least if Bernie were on the ticket we would have spoken to them and offered them something (remember, he's quite popular in rural Vermont).
He offered a lot of things, but he had no ability to deliver. I'm not sure I can forgive him if he knew that, it still seems distasteful, to make an empty promise that you cannot fulfill.
Hillary's supporters were just plain smug and condescending. Who the hell wants to hang around assholes like that? I'd rather hang around a bunch of dumb, uneducated, but well-meaning hicks than pretentious, smug assholes any time.
But they are, in fact, smug, condescending, pretentious, assholes, so what do you gain? That they are dumb and uneducated? That doesn't make them better, or their intentions any less flawed. Lots of people think they mean well, as they rip and tear away at so many things. I'm not sure you can find many people who think the intent is malignant. Even the worst trolls often think they're teaching people a lesson. The capacity for human beings to justify themselves is quite extensive.
There's a good reason almost no one had a Hillary 2016 bumper sticker on their car, even in the very blue areas I frequent. By contrast, I saw tons of 4- and 8-year old Obama campaign stickers, but very very few Hillary ones. That really says something.
And I saw very few Trump signs or stickers. Even in a deep red area. Of course, I remember seeing lots of Ron Paul signs, and we know how THAT worked out.
I'm sure I'm not the only one totally turned off by Hillary's nasty supporters (just like the AC asshole who also replied to me here: he's a perfect example of those condescending shitheads).
And I'm sure I'm not the only person disdainful of the vacillating pompous arses that you serve to exemplify. You're so desperate to come up with flimsy excuses for your own pretentiousness that you turn around and concoct an even more tenuous excuse to blame Hillary and her supporters.
There are legitimate grievances about Hillary's campaign, but yours? Are only commendable in that they are less fabricated than Trump's claims.
Which is like being drier than the ocean.
Really, almost everything you've offered, I find redoubled on the Trump side of things, with a dose of other qualities of unsavory repute li
Or, likeminded people from across the globe try to find places where they fit in, where society has failed them via ostracism, ridicule, and harassment. You know, the same thing you're doing right now on slashdot by talking with other nerds.
Naturally, the feeble minded hate that which they don't understand. If you've never been treated that way, how can you profess to understand what peoples' motives are for accessing the Internet? Would you rather go back to the days where people had no social outlets? That is the alternative for a lot of people. Local communities are not as diverse or as dedicated to a given subject or cause.
Take older crafts, like knitting, tailoring, woodworking, or even quiltwork. Do you think every town has a group dedicated to those? How about underwater basket weaving? Programming? Literature analysis? Political science? Cryptography?
The entire point of using the Internet socially is to find others similar to you so you can establish a group you belong to. People who are continually ostracized or harassed become dangerous because this social link is broken and the people in question lose empathy for the group that mistreats them. Without social ties, society itself breaks down.
I expect a flippant response, but I hope I'll be proven wrong. We can condemn vandalism and violence, sure. But ridiculing someone because their in-group is online is extremely myopic and shows a complete lack of empathy.
Civil disobedience is at the core of every successful democracy. It is responsible for the freedoms we enjoy today. Eliminate it and we go further down the totalitarian path.
So these guys face up to 75 years in prison for trashing a poor guy's car.
In other news this week, they report that drunk girl who live-streamed wrecking her car and killing her little sister is facing up to *thirteen* whole years in prison.
So we should just accept everything and question nothing, huh? Blindly trust a government who's proven to be on the wrong side of morality for its entire existence. Sure, buddy. We're humans, not dogs. What use is life if you never live, never think outside of the box your government gave you? Why should I bother working to support a corrupt society that would sooner see me dead in a ditch than do anything to help me?
If more people continue to be blocked from enjoying peaceful and comfortable lives, they will begin looking for answers. That's most of the reason people turn to crime to begin with: "normal" society decides they don't want them around, let alone succeeding. So these people turn to crime to pay the bills.
The solution is to make "success" and financial stability more than a pipedream. Our society fails thousands of people every year, and yet all some authoritarian blowhard of 40 years in the legal system can say is "If they simply lived like dogs we'd be okay with them".
You're out of touch. I hope that you acknowledged that when you retired.
Look up U.S. statistics on prisons.
.. the defense) with the privately owned prison system to send more prisoners their way. They aren't concerned about the crimes themselves, they will gladly treat everyone as poorly as possible. They agreed to pick up the majority of the cost of upkeep and maintenance of the court house which leaves more money in the budgets for my raises. They cut a deal with the mayor too and I actually get bonuses now when I reach certain quotas for sending people to specific prisons. I've been asked recently to increase female inmate populations. Apparently this is great for the prisons who have to supply "special needs" but awesome for the Las Vegas community afterwards.
Now, be warned... Googling this topic puts out more fantastic and exaggerated headlines than searching for Trump on the NY Times. Well in both cases, let's be honest, headlines in general are generally the best way to misinform a population who don't read the articles with part-truths. Trump hasn't figured out that it isn't fake news that's a problem for him, the problem is, he refuses to read anything longer than a Tweet so he stops after the headline and name of the author. Watching Trump and the New York Times fight is like watching two knuckle-draggers in a boxing ring.
So... here's the way we make America great again... it's easy.
1) Decrease unemployment... wait.. why am I numbering... it's the only point I have.
How do you decrease unemployment the fastest?
- Increase the number of people who can't work.
- Increase the number of people required to care for them
So, if you increase the prison population from about 1% to 2% of adult Americans... you can remove at least a few million people from the job market. You can also increase the number of prison jobs by quite a bit. Not only that, but consider all the additional post-prison jobs like folding laundry that can be made.
Prisons are profitable as all hell to politicians. Keep in mind that American prisons are not correctional facilities. A correctional facility tries to take a person who made a wrong turn (like running over a few lawyers with a bus... this should't actually be illegal) and then help raise them up to be something more after some time. American prisons are penal facilities. They exist to extract revenge.
America LOVES REVENGE!!!!
Nothing has ever gained more votes than revenge... especially when you can combine revenge with righteousness. Nothing has ever made Americans more excited than finding retribution by doing at least 10 times more wrong to someone else than has been done to them! Some asshole bombs you, a friend or even talks about bombing you... that's ok... if every single person involved with a bombing you is dead, we'll bomb your entire country or even your entire religion... and we don't even need to know what your religion is... we'll judge by skin color and guess.
So... we can work towards making America great again through honesty.
"You have been sentenced to three years in super-max for paying a parking ticket late. We are placing you in prison, not because you should be there. In fact, you shouldn't even be in this court room. But the US has 4-5 times more people passing the bar exams each year than it can employ. Those people (myself included) didn't actually study anything other than law and most of our jobs have been replaced with software already. In fact, we couldn't even work as paralegals.If we weren't representing the people, the plaintiff or the defendant, we'd be out of work and praying for a managerial position at a local McDonald's. So therefore, we need to keep the court full as much as possible and avoid due process wherever possible as to increase double and triple billable hours.
In addition, we have recently struck agreements (me, the prosecution and
We also got a great deal from a prison telephone company that my buddy down the hall actually sued. They had to pr
*Hillary* ran a condescending campaign?
"Elect me and your dreams will come true"
"I'll repeal obamacare on day one"
He promised to provide better healthcare and reduce healthcare costs at the same time.
"Only I can fix it".
Build the Wall!
The numerous lies about Hillary, Obama, his own past.
His "healthiest president ever" letter from his doctor.
Good god, he thinks so little of the American people, and you think Hillary was condescending.
You guys elected an actual con man.
He thinks the American people are too stupid to demand he disclose his business connections before becoming president, and he's right!
Play Command HQ online
Good strawman. You're a fucking moron. And in theory I agree with your political leanings.
They'll deny it, but they won't have any better explanation for their behavior.
Luckily, since they won't even admit it, over time it will really drag them down. It creates a war of attrition against themselves.
I have ZERO SYMPATHY for these protesters.
75 years is too lenient. They should be lined up and shot.
Awesome, it just shows even more how low Trump's regime is willing to go with this charade of a democracy.
Unlawful invasion of privacy for incrimination without recourse. Guilty until proven innocent.
It's the sort of thing I'd expect from dictatorships. You dare to protest against the current administration, a riot happened during the protests, everyone who was detained there automatically loses their common rights because they need to prove themselves innocents - not what any sane democracy would do, which would be innocent until proven guilty. We're not even talking about terrorism charges here anymore people.
Every idiot who is saying this is good seems to have absolutely no idea of how a democracy works.
You keep vouching for this type of police overreach, one day it'll come back to bite you in the ass.
If you don't realize they were both corrupt than you're seriously deluding yourself.
Drunk girls have no control of themselves and can't be held accountable for anything they do, so clearly she's not a fault for the crash.
Civil disobedience is refusing to sit at the back of the bus, or chaining oneself to a tree. Such an act puts the person engaged in it at risk, but that makes it a noble effort. Rioting, burning and destroying property puts others at risk and is the act of a selfish coward, particularly when done while wearing a mask. Antifa and KKK, same difference. Rioting is not civil disobedience.
See when we had protest organized back in France, we had two type of agitator in mind : 1) the rioter asshole which take the protest as a boon to riot and plunder 2) some external agitator (sometime the police itself!) which want the protest to be seen as violent and thus send a few element to mix in and start breaking stuff
,e.g. protester are now making a detour around the group or individual, documented (photo) and immediately reported to a special hotline provided by organizer
So our solution has been over the year the following :
* start by having a contact with the police, sort of for EMT and rioting
* protester get the order to detect any misbahvior and not dumbly march
* any such misbehavior is to be isolated
* organizer then immediately report the misbehavior, the photo, and possibly position and time
That worked like a charm, and trust me, back in France we organized more protest in a year than you have had in decades in the US.
From Whitewater to Benghazi there have been countless investigations targeting Hillary Clinton over the past 25 years.
Tell me please what was found.
Nothing. Zero.
It's the accumulation of stories that makes people say she's "corrupt". If you repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth. But you'd be hard pressed to mention a single proven act of corruption,
Think about it.
The people who whine that they're being treated in a condescending manner never seem to ask themselves if maybe it's deserved.
I'm sorry but if you voted for Trump, a proven con man who made ridiculous promises, I'm going to treat you like the moron that you are. I'm sorry if it hurts your self esteem and if it contradicts your mommy who always said you were the smartest specialiest little snowflake but at some point somebody's got to break the bad news: there's no way you'll ever be an astronaut like mommy said. You're a waste of oxygen.
I get it. The process is completely insane as well.
Seems a lot of people are like "bwaaaa those meanies are calling us racists! We just don't like a black guy as president( or a friggin womin) and don't want black/brown people in our neighborhood!"
...be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
-Thomas Jefferson
Peaceful protest accomplishes little if anything.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Personally, I voted for Stein.
She's even more in the bag for Russia than Trump. Christ.
I think I'd rather be associated with moronic Trump voters than with the condescending assholes who were vocal Hillary supporters.
Nothing about this stance makes sense.
All of the anonymous coward government agents trolling us today.
America, it was a great idea while it lasted.
Because it goes ballot box, soap box and ammo box, not sticking "riot" before killing?
you can't leave after the riot police comes.
and if the protest was organized, then you will be apparently prosecuted for tens of years in prison.
basically, feds could get a few stools in there to riot and throw the lot of them in prison for decades? even if there was no bodily harm or whatever even done by any of them except the stools.
your prison sentences in usa are stupid. 20 year old woman meets a 14 year old "boy" in a bar of all places, potentially 50 years.
stand near a protest: decades potentially.
shoot the woman who called 9/11: nothing.
vehicular manslaughter while drunk: basically nothing.
and we all know nobody of them is going to do 75 years, its just the usual tactic to get them to confess so evidence isn't needed.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
when you're wrong out of the gate, why should I bother reading your post further?
Calling 911 and asking which phone number appears there and looking at the emergency medical record with the bloodtype does not a cracking make.
But LOL at the summary writers' pathetic attempt to try to make out that the RIOTERS were somehow Trump supporters by missing out the word "anti"... The entire media uses the phrase "Trump protestors" in order to try to implicate Trump in the RIOTERS' behaviour, somehow...
It's not our fault if you can't logically defend your political position, and have to resort to violence and threats of violence.
Who was blocking highways and stopping thousands of people from getting to work? ANTI-Trump 'protestors'. These people are scum, and they know it. They are 'useful idiots', doing the work of the 1%.
Trump and his administration believe in the rule of law.
What the hell have you been smoking?
vos nescitis quicquam, nec cogitatis quia expedit nobis ut unus moriatur homo pro populo et non tota gens pereat.
Intent and conspiracy to commit a violent crime is much worse than even the most stupid criminal negligence.
Yep. This is why only a couple of hundred are being prosecuted (with even fewer to be convicted) out of thousands.
Being part of a conspiracy to commit a crime is in itself a crime... The few assholes actually breaking windows can be prosecuted for that already. It is to substantiate the conspiracy charge is why the prosecutors needed to crack the phones — the very subject of TFA.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The guy was obviously a sociopath, obviously a moron, and obviously didn't have the best interests of anyone but himself at heart.
She was also obviously a sociopath and obviously didn't have the best interests of anyone but herself at heart. She just wasn't as obviously a moron, but in retrospect even that's debatable given how moronically her campaign was run.
See subject: It's no delusion. Delusional (& traitorous) is what goes on from PAID BY "SOROS-losers 'protestors'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E8kW37Kr4Y/ !
APK
P.S.=> I'm just a person who is disgusted by idiots who either can't handle the fact they lost an election OR are paid to act like traitors... apk
How about a smartphone that automatically deletes its contents if it runs out of power, is shut OFF without entering the lock code, if it detects it's being opened or tampered with in any way...
Maybe make this an optional setting, that requires user login every (blank) hours as a minimum, or it silently starts wiping itself.
Or it automatically uploads to the cloud where the info can't be broken into merely because the jackbooted government thugs have possession of your phone...
Come to think of it, there's probably a way to do this with existing software, with the proper settings...
But yeah. Anyone else miss the days when our government still at least pretended to be some species of functioning democracy?
she wouldn't have gotten most of the 3rd party votes, libertarian i think did better than green.
a bunch of those people were running from trump too. but no way in hell would they have voted for the left.
Sometimes, the law makes an example of you. http://www.ajc.com/news/local/... Jose Ismael Torres and Kayla Rae Norton got 20 year and 15 year sentences for riding down a street with a confederate flag and yelling racial epithets (and allegedly having a gun). Normally, stuff like that doesn't result in 20 year sentences, but every once in a while, a smack down occurs. Rioters have gotten used to being treated with kids gloves for the better part of two decades. Normal Americans are getting sick of their shit, and in some cases, normal Americans and not left-wing agitators still control the Justice system.
How many of these "cracked" phones used fingerprint or facial recognition locks? These authentication types don't need to be cracked. The device owners can be compelled to unlock without cracking the device.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Trump voters are literal morons. They were angry because market forces had made them obsolete. Instead of voting for a candidate that actually outlined plans to retrain them for new jobs, they went for the guy who said "MAGA!".
Pretty much as expected, because those on the right now seem to have the attention span of a peanut.
Seeing that what they're looking for is conspiracy to riot, if they're innocent there will be no evidence of them planning on going to this and starting to riot. It would just be them planning on going there to protest.
Look, I'm as upset about police overreach as the next guy, but so long as this is done within the law (they were arrested, so it is), and they didn't coerce the person to supply passwords themselves crapping all over the 5th amendment (it doesn't appear to be the case), then I just can't get angry about this. It sounds like routine police work. Riots broke out at a protest, rioters were arrested, now they're looking to see if rioters went there planning to riot, or if they just got caught up in things.
And I can't handle retarded baboons like APK
I know you love Trump because his is your authoritarian statist asshole but then I didn't vote for either of the authoritarian statist assholes who were running.
It figures you would support Trump as his ideas are almost as shitty as yours and he is actually one of the few people who communicates worse than you do.
So now please tell me about how there is a giant Jewish cabal trying to suppress you some more.
Rioting isn't 75 years. 75 years probably comes from taking all of their crimes, prosecuted individually and taking maximum time for each one and adding them up, note that I said maximum, not what they're likely to be given. Breaking one window my give you a maximum of 6 months, note the maximum, and then they broke 150 windows would land you at 75 years. Considering that for these sorts of things, they never serve sentences consecutively, they'd probably be in prison less than a year.
This is what's called "spin", taking facts and presenting them in such a way to make them sound far worse than it actually is to get a rise out of people. Always remember to think critically. Especially when dealing with anything reported by the "news", since they've all got a narrative they're invested in spinning.
You're confusing "things being found" with "things failing to be prosecuted because of the very corruption that the Clintons embody."
The Clintons' behavior has left a huge wake of OTHER people having the careers ruined, going to jail, killing themselves out of disgust, and of course millions and millions of dollars going right into their personal bank account even while she was Secretary of State presiding over deals with countries that handed her and her husband cash. Your notion that the Clintons aren't corrupt would be cute and funny if we thought you actually believed it, but since you and I both know you're lying, it's not cute, or funny. Well, it's kind of funny. Because millions of voters saw through it and denied her what she demanded. That WAS funny.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
How can they prove that the owner of the phone was a person caused damage to property?
I'm going to treat you like the moron
And this ladies and gentlemen is why we can't have nice things anymore.
Surprisingly, if you spend decades telling a group of people that you don't respect them and have no reason to listen to them, they stop respecting or listening to you too. Every single advancement of human rights has come from stopping the bullshit posturing and dealing with people as people, listening to their concerns and addressing them as adults, and not drunk sports fans. Gay rights finally took off, not because of the in your face "we're queer deal with it m*****f*****s" folks, but because more and more gay people came out to those around them and they were humanized. Gun rights have crawled back from the depths they fell to with the AWB not because of the "It's my right so f*** you asshole" owners, but because of the ones that took to time to educate, and relate with those that had issues.
There's room for hardliners in any movement, and sometimes you need them to galvanize people to speak out, but if all you do is throw up hard liners and refuse to engage those that don't agree with you, no matter how self evident you think your position is, then all you do is give those people a reason to ignore you.
the 'right' has had a grudge ever since 'that black guy' got into office.
I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 but I remember distinctly the day after the election that CNN and other news talking heads generalize the election to racism. "What we learned last night is that there are not enough racists to defeat Obama.". Any time I disagreed with Obama for any reason during the last 8 years I was called a racist.
Maybe that grudge is because a lot of people are tired of being called a racist because they vote for the other guy. What is the point in trying to have a discussion if you will call me racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic when we disagree?
I know more people that are fed up being called *ist because they have different needs and wants from the federal government then actual *ists.
No one is facing 75 years, the media gets sentencing rules wrong all the time https://www.popehat.com/2013/02/05/crime-whale-sushi-sentence-eleventy-million-years/ (and he's written plenty of other articles about it)
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> China imitated me http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ - & u call me retarded?... apk
Maybe Soros should pay you to not suck moose dick since maybe you need some incentive to quit
Nah, you love it too much so you'll never give it up.
What is disgusting is APK and his moose dick addiction.
Just put the moose dick down APK it will be ok
So these guys face up to 75 years in prison for trashing a poor guy's car.
In other news this week, they report that drunk girl who live-streamed wrecking her car and killing her little sister is facing up to *thirteen* whole years in prison.
America... what a great country!
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> China imitated me http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ - See subject... apk
Ignoring the fact that Donald Trump didn't make Hillary run an illegal private email server that contained classified information.
You are forgetting the outrageous corrupt behavior she was covering up by running an illegal private email server.
The whole point in running the private email server was to keep her communications as Secretary of State out of the public record. She deliberately thwarted the Freedom of Information Act and destroyed historical records that should have ultimately ended up in the National Archives. Fifty years from now historians will be shaking their fist at the smug harridan.
Yup, I called you a retard and then you proved it for all to see.
No one brought up hosts file retard and I don't think the Chinese decided to copy you as other have done the same thing long before you did and did it better.
Your retarded ass can only spout off about hosts file or how the Jews are master puppeteers.
Like always you have a truly retarded way of arguing and will deflect and change the subject as soon as you can't handle the truth.
You truly are a retard.
Donald J. Trump sent a tweet storm yesterday that set the Pentagon on edge because at first they thought it was about North Korea.
This is a man who spent a year and a half running for president, and has been president for six months, and still doesn't know what a President does. He still doesn't understand that he commands the most powerful military on Earth, among other things.
This is not surprising. If you voted for this fool, then you are either an idiot, or you weren't paying attention, in which case you're woefully irresponsible.
There are more than one approach to this problem. One approach is that the millions who have made this serious mistake can look into themselves and think about why they made it and what they can do to prevent it in the future.
Play Command HQ online
Fair enough, but there is that thing about the pot and the kettle.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/apr/17/who-plays-more-golf-donald-trump-or-barack-obama/
I knowingly elected Trump, knowing full well what I was doing, to stick it to people like you.
keep running on "the other side is racist" it just means you guys will keep losing
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
* Malwarebytes' hpHosts hosts+recommends it
APK
P.S.=> China imitated me http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ - & See subject, quit projecting
seems like a lot of lazy people see race or gender above policy and attribute their own latent racism onto others
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
See subject: It's easy 4 me to do good things others like & use where by comparison you, a "ne'er-do-well" hiding behind unidentifiable anonymous posts, can't manage a FRACTION of what I can (because you're a DO-NOTHING lazy beta miillenial, lmao).
* Hahahahahaha (that's right - I am laughing my ass off @ "your kind"...)
APK
P.S.=> For your reference https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10914329&cid=54891251/ ... apk
No one wants to be you, APK, because you are a retard.
You prove it more and more with each post you make.
You post retarded responses to everything, even other retards who mock you.
Like a retard you post the same thing over and over again.
You write and construct sentences like a retard.
Keep showing everyone how much of a retard you are APK
Looks like APK has provided further proof that he is in fact a retard.
This thread is really getting full of evidence that APK is retarded and should not be allowed to operate a computer.
What did any of that have to do with journalism, professional or not?
Honestly, I think I'd rather be associated with moronic Trump voters than with the condescending assholes who were vocal Hillary supporters.
Really? This is all just team sports to you? It's not about the decisions begin made, but with whom you may be associated?
This is one of the best comments that I've seen on Slashdot, and it's currently marked as -1.
See subject: It's easy 4 me to do good things others like & use & by comparison you, a "ne'er-do-well" hiding behind unidentifiable anonymous posts, can't manage a FRACTION of what I can (since you're a DO-NOTHING lazy beta miillenial).
* Hahahahahaha (that's right - I am laughing my ass off @ "your kind"...)
APK
P.S.=> For your re-reference https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
You are right I can't do a fraction of the spamming that you do.
I also can't construct a sentence as poorly as you do.
Furthermore I can't deflect and change the subject like you can.
Finally I don't suffer from any where near the number neurological issues as you do.
So if I were you I would stop claiming that those are good things and stop demonstrating to the world that you are a retard.
See subject: It's easy 4 me to do good things others like & use - by comparison you, a "ne'er-do-well" hiding behind unidentifiable anonymous posts, can't manage a FRACTION of what I can (as you're a DO-NOTHING lazy beta miillenial).
* Hahahahahaha (that's right - I am lmao @ "your kind") - you WISH you were me but YOUR weak lazy kind can NEVER, ever be (& you KNOW it).
APK
P.S.=> For your re-reference https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...
Nobody is condemning them for socializing online.
They are being condemned for being morons, both for the idiotic cause they support and for their stupidity in supplying the police with clear evidence of conspiracy.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
when you're wrong out of the gate, why should I bother reading your post further?
You should be thorough and complete for your own sake. Stopping before you finish a post because you're too upset at what somebody said is a perilous route to take. Quite often, that's your fault.
So why don't you try finishing the post, and giving a more diligent response? I know you already blew your mod points, so you might as well spend your time thinking up a rational reply.
I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 but I remember distinctly the day after the election that CNN and other news talking heads generalize the election to racism. "What we learned last night is that there are not enough racists to defeat Obama.". Any time I disagreed with Obama for any reason during the last 8 years I was called a racist.
I remember very clearly, how over the last eight years, pretty much every half-baked critic of Obama whined about how they were so unfairly persecuted for being called a "racist" for attacking Obama(which group of critics even included the birthers), and used that excuse to ignore every response to whatever inane thing they were saying. This was not a novel trend, however, as it was already established by the 1960s at the latest.
This was before CNN was a thing, though. You might not recall it.
Maybe that grudge is because a lot of people are tired of being called a racist because they vote for the other guy.
No, that grudge is because a lot of people REALLY do have a problem with self-reflection. They can't admit to their own flaws, so they manufacture an excuse to rationalize how they ignore critics of their criticism. That, and they do have a problem when they elect the Birther-in-Chief, and embrace his own racism and bigotry, or even just claim that Obama created racial divisions in this country. That Ohio Campaign Chair REALLY showed her true colors there.
What is the point in trying to have a discussion if you will call me racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic when we disagree?
What is the point in trying to have a discussion if you will fabricate a flimsy and transparent excuse to ignore any disagreement with you?
And that isn't even getting into the denials that exist for actual racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia. Can't even get half of your critics to acknowledge that birtherism tainted the whole GOP.
I know more people that are fed up being called *ist because they have different needs and wants from the federal government then actual *ists.
You're about a century and a half too late to get on that bandwagon. Perhaps closer to two and a half, depending on how you interpret the American revolution.
The build-up to the Civil War was full of abolitionists being called N*-lovers, and there were the various immigrant-lovers, and before that, were the Indian-lovers, and before that, well, the various parties ranged from King-lovers, to Democracy lovers, and even a few Christians.
Might want to bone up on your history there.
You know, unlike the Boaster-in-Chief who thinks he signed a lot of laws.
As much as I hate those fascist and communist that like to call everybody else a fascist, This has no validity unless the feds had a legitimate warrant issued by a seated judge. If it was done in any other way, then the evidence has no weight.
She ran an incredibly condescending campaign, and her supporters were especially smug and condescending. Honestly, I think I'd rather be associated with moronic Trump voters than with the condescending assholes who were vocal Hillary supporters.
Hillary supporters were just so cocky and douchey, oh and hypocritical, too. How dare anyone even allude to anything that may be interpreted as objectifying a woman, but let's totally make fun of Trump's hands, hair, skin, voice, etc.
The night I heard Trump won... goodness, I was elated and laughing manically. I don't agree with all of Trump's positions (actually talking about illegal immigration for once is great though; something like 1 in 30 people are here illegally, which is crazy and unacceptable), but I was beyond excited to see the annoying-as-shit Hillary supporters (many Reddit users, celebrities, media) eat crow.
Those rioters in San Jose who beat up Trump supporters and fought with cops? Fuck you. All the media channels that misrepresented Trump's speeches (e.g., Trump hates all immigrants and minorities)? Fuck youuuu. All the celebrities who told me I was on the wrong side of history and I'm a bad person if I don't vote for Hillary? Fuck youuuuuuuuu.
And those Hillary supporter types are still extremely annoying and douchey today, so I'm looking forward to 2020. Hopefully they get another "devastating" election and finally turn to some introspection.
Take a long vacation, Hillary. Attempting to 'correct the record' on internet forums will make for a very unhappy retirement.
50 years from now, she will just be another bullet the nation dodged. Only historians will know her name.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I love how I never thought I would see this stuff in America, not in my life time. Now it's jst Merica, land of the stupid, with a dictator at the helm.
Officials seized Trump protesters' cell phones, cracked their passwords/
I wonder .... just extrapolating from events, how much worse can this get?
President Bezos today ordered the Justice Department and FBI to seize the phones of people who have posted negative reviews of Amazon. If the owners are found to have made disparaging comments, they can be charged with collusion and domestic terrorism. While that may seem like a stretch, Amazon is now the official sole-source supplier of the US Government.
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
If you are a women out late at night, make sure you are not provocatively dressed.
If you're black, avoid racist areas of the country.
Common sense, but no one should have to live in fear of what might be done to them if they are at the wrong place and wrong time in the USA. We are a country of laws and must expect that justice will be done both for the guilty and the innocent.
That's right! It would have been impossible for her to consent to drive.
Thanks AC. You gave me a good laugh.
Your ad hominem trumps all other logical abilities! Simply brilliant, why didn't I think of that? That is your whole argument against Ted, despite the dozens of 2nd amendment interviews which are actually good interviews I can find in less than 2 seconds of web searching.
Here ya go. You are a fucking waste of a human being and debate like a turnip. I WIN!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Problem is, does either of us have proof/measure of what we assert? Me I donâ(TM)t tbh. My point of view is that YES there are gender/race inequalities and bias in our societies, and that some people ARE racist even if they deny vigorously. "some" is a better word than "a lot" that I used earlier since I canâ(TM)t prove "a lot", especiaÄly wrt voting decisions. Oh btw it is my opinion that some policies have a racist nature/undercurrent/component so there, we can disagree again ;)
Oh Stinkbone, the only thing funnier than your Wile E. Coyote level obsession with the Clinton's is your butt-buddy's preposterous claims about millions of illegal votes. Is it so hard for him to stand the fact that he was less popular than she? He has to live with the asterisk for the rest of his life.
But hey, you don't have to stick with your authoritarian violence with Kent State, there's also Tiannemen Square, MacArthur's assault on veterans in DC, and the famous Odessa Steps sequence from the Battleship Potempkin. Putin can probably send you a copy of that movie.
The relentless grudge match to repeal ObamaCare regardless of what it does to millions of people and the Republican Party's anger about each and every action - to the point that each must be systematically repealed regardless of implications tells me that racism is not a completely unreasonable conclusion to make.
It's so fun when you change the subject because you don't like the point being made: it's not about Clinton, it's about GP's hypocrisy and lying. The GP made it about Clinton, and since the entire media panty-knotting since November has been entirely about how angry they are that not all Americans obeyed and voted for the Clintons, it's worth pointing out when yet another person (like the GP) is still working their hardest to revise history ... for what, it's never clear - mostly, one presumes, to avoid having to ever, once, talk substance of any kind. Sort of like you!
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Hopefully prison teaches them some valuable life lesson.
It's so fun when you change the subject because you don't like the point being made: it's not about Clinton, it's about GP's hypocrisy and lying. The GP made it about Clinton, and since the entire media panty-knotting since November has been entirely about how angry they are that not all Americans obeyed and voted for the Clintons, it's worth pointing out when yet another person (like the GP) is still working their hardest to revise history ... for what, it's never clear - mostly, one presumes, to avoid having to ever, once, talk substance of any kind. Sort of like you!
Sorry SkankGnome the subject of the allegations against the Clintons was brought up by another poster in 54888981, with the allegation of corruption on both parties, unfortunately, as pointed out in 54889073, they've produced nothing actionable on Clintons, despite 30 years of trying.
You're just upset over that continued string of failures, and are failing to remember the point:
If you repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth. But you'd be hard pressed to mention a single proven act of corruption.
Yes, we know you want to revise history, and yes, the reason for it is QUITE clear, you're still as torn up over that failure as Trump is over his electoral inadequacies. You'd love to send in the tanks to roll over anybody who points out your failings. It gets your panties in a knot, and you keep getting trapped in it. You can't stand that, so you lash out like a toddler.
Much like Trump, who still wants to try to distract from his own offenses by yelling about Hillary himself. Like yours, his reasons are clear.
They came with weapons and face masks. They planned on committing violence.
I may not like some things. But if you want to assemble and wave signs, fine.
Here in the USA, our right to protest has relevant, important feedback for our leaders.
If our leaders refuse to heed protests, then they are NOT qualified to lead in the USA! Period!
To attack protests as they did in this case, is to act like other nation states that our foreign policy frowns upon!
IF our "leaders" refuse to heed the message that ever-growing protests are working to get across, then the next step is obvious!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
I know Moscow is less developed in some ways that most places in the West, but I'd hardly call it flyover country.
You are so disingenuous in your responses and are so detached from the group of people you are talking about (Trump voters and Bernie voters), that I'm not even going to take the time to pick apart your shit. I hope that maybe some day you can open your ears to other people at some point.
actually i do agree with that for the most part. I dont believe in "unconscious racism" you either have the intent or you dont. but i do believe that some policies were instituted for racist reasons
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Why is Trump even mentioned in an article about the prosecution of rioters? Can't anyone do a straight up report without inserting fake causality.
Why is it newsworthy that a State's Attorney subpoenas phone records and email records to check for conspiracy in those arrested for crimes against the public?
No wonder the bozo in chief keeps asserting "fake news".
NRRPT/RCT