Anyway, I've never owned a console before but I plan on getting a playstation 3. Why? Because the specs for PS3 are fucking ridiculous!!
Of course, there are no specs available for Xbox 2 and Gamecube 2, so to say that PS3 will have the best specs is a little premature.
Not to mention that PC graphics capabilities will be well ahead of all 3 of the consoles within months of their releases, as it was the case with the current generation.
Clone High is on Teletoon in Canada, the equivalent of the Cartoon Network in the US. Maybe Cartoon Network will pick it up down there, as well.. It is an excellent show!
This quote from the same page probably explains why you don't hear much about it in the news:
The weight of scientific opinion currently remains very much against the possibility of surface life of any kind on Mars. By contrast, opinion is more or less evenly divided on the issue of past life and of extant subterranean Martian life.
So, for now, it's just a theory by a couple of scientists, and not many others agree that the dark spots are vegetation.
Yeah, you're right, Dell doesn't know what they're doing. They have a history of making machines that nobody buys. They don't do any market research, and simply put random parts together and hope somebody makes a mistake of ordering them.
Hey, wrong story. We already talked about that yesterday.
Besides, "new cell phones" vs. "old cell phones" does not really apply. Cell phones vs. land-line POT could be considered here -- i.e. many expected that POT would go away when cell phones became affordable..
Nobody "expected" old cell phones to be replaced by new cell phones. That was going to happen by definition of those words.
Software developped for these cards is really cool, of course, I never meant to say otherwise.
His post was talking about pixel and vertex shaders, which are enabled thanks to the huge advances in the hardware of the video cards. The old cards simply ran through 3d calculations and texture mapping, the new cards are completely programmable, with instructions, registers, etc. -- you run actual programs on them that are used to produce the amazing new effects you see in DX9 games.
If you read up on it a bit, I'm sure you'll quickly change your mind about the lack of revolutionary progress.
It's not the $10M that will kick-start the private manned space flight, it is achieving the goals required by the X-Prize that will prove that private space flight is possible and will get things going in the right direction.
I thought you said Hydrogen was hard to come by on the moon? Either its scarce or it makes up a large percentage of the "atmosphere" (along with helium). It can't be both.
Yes, it can. There is so little atmosphere on the Moon, that even if it was all hydrogen, it would still be scarce.
Erm... Are you talking tons or KILOtons here? Are you sure that that explosion was 2.5 kton (about 1e13 Joules, and about 1/6th of the Little Boy bomb at Hiroshima), and not 2.5 ton (about 1e10 Joules, and about 1/6000th of the Hiroshima bomb)?
According to this site, the amount of TNT that exploded was "only" 200 tons, but there was also 2,300 tons of picric acid. So, I'm not sure the impact of the acid is, but even if only TNT exploded, it's still a lot more than a 2.5 ton explosion.
What are the pros of using a fountain pen? I remember being forced to use those in grade school, and I hated them.. It was easy to smudge the ink, the pen had to be aligned properly to write nicely, etc. I had never thought that anybody would use them voluntarily?!
Mobile processors can usually alter their clock on the fly, but this requires tight intergration with the motherboard circuitry which is traditionally responsible for generating the CPU clock (which could probably also be programmed to overclock).
That's not correct, actually. The CPU reference clock is generated outside of the CPU, but it gets multiplied inside the CPU. So, when a mobile CPU wants to slow itself down, it just reduces the multiplier, while the reference clock remains the same
The vast majority of consumer PCs ship with one of the following:
1. Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (a motherboard chipset roughly equivalent to a TNT2). 2. GeForce 4 MX (essentially GeForce 2 with more fillrate, but without programmable shaders).
Latest Mercury numbers indicate that Intel has under 30% graphics market share, and nVidia's integrated solution adds another 9% (half of the total AMD market). Vast majority? It's not even majority!
Look around for data to confirm things you hear from others before you spread the misinformation.
There is no aspect of a mission to Mars that has been realistically worked out, the human race is 50yrs to centuries away from a mission that complex.
Actually, almost everything has been worked out, except for the 'surviving the long flight time in space' part, altough a lot of work on that is done up on the ISS at the moment.
The rest of the mission is fairly straightforward, at least in the world of manned space travel.
Puntloos was talking about the fps difference between the 2 cards being reviewed, not between two different-generation cards...
True, but it just doesn't make sense to use the argument "one card is faster than the other by 3fps" to show how nobody would buy the card, when that same card is over twice as fast as the previous generation's best card!
I was just trying to answer his question, while trying to show that his argument doesn't apply to the question at hand.
You didn't have to tell us.. it's pretty obvious from your comments.
I wonder why you bother posting on the topic, though? Do you reall want to know who would buy "this"?
My old Radeon 7000 couldn't run Madden 2003 in high-res with AA, so I bought a 9700, which does. The performance increase is from about 5fps to 70fps. A little more than 3.
But, then, you didn't really want to hear that, you just wanted to spread some FUD that you picked from somebody else's Slashdot post.
As for people buying NVIDIA cards, sure, plenty of people are buying them. NVIDIA's TNT2 is a popular low-cost 3D accelerator card that OEMS like Dell and emachines like to market.
That's a splendid piece of FUD. TNT2 has not been available on Dell, or any other major OEM, machines for quite a while now.
Why would they, anyway, when current integrated graphics is way ahead of TNT2, and is also cheaper.
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I mean, how many apps really critically need that 2% parformance increase, but do not benefit from a dual or quad-cpu machine, a cluster, or a big non-x86 Unix machine?
A quad-cpu machine with the new CPU will still be faster than a quad-cpu machine with the old CPUs.
When you run thousands of jobs on a hundred dual-cpu machines overnight, 10% increase in speed is significant! It means hundreds more completed jobs per night.
When the fastest available is too slow, then any increase in speed is quite welcome.
My computer is by far not a high-end box, but PCI is a (small) bottle-neck, even for me.
Let's see: 2 IDE channels, 2 disks, that's 50 MB/s each, 1 GBit network, that's peak 100MB/s. A U2W SCSI host adapter with 1 single, very fast disk is good for 70MB/s. Then there is USB2 (everything is USB2 now) and Firewire (each 50MB/s). Adds up to (peak) 370MB/s.
On almost all modern chipsets, these devices do not use the pci bus at all, unless you've put it your own add-in cards. (so, I imagine SCSI host adapter is a separate device, but IDE, USB2, and LAN should all be integrated into the southbridge, which means that they will be using whatever proprietary standard the chipset you have is using)
So, yes, you can overload the pci by adding a lot of add-in cards, but for most users, most of these items will be provided by the chipset.
About the only stuff that has made it into the chipset are cheap soundcards (yes creative is cheap to) and some extremely cheap raid solutions. A lot of other stuff is still in one form or another on the PCI bus. Even if it is not included on a plugin board.
Southbridges haven't been connected to Northbridges through the PCI bus for a while now. Which means that eveyrthing that is integrated on the Southbridge does not run over PCI, but over HubLink, HyperTransport, A-Link, etc. (whatever chipset you happen to have)
And, modern integrated chipsets have IDE controllers, sound cards, network cards, and USB controllers all integrated.
AGP is pushed to the limits with 8x, and will not go any higher easily. PCI-Express, on the other hand, will easily start with the same bandwidth, and will have plenty of headroom for future cards.
(2) cost
If your audio card is only using 1MB/s, then you will use a slow x1 lane to hook it up, and your motherboard becomes way simpler and cheaper to design -- instead of routing 40 pins accross all PCI slots, you'll route 10 pins directly to the x1 slot.
As you can see here, x8 and x16 connectors will still have a good number of pins, so the connector will not actually be any smaller than the current AGP connector.
No no, you're forgetting how bad pascal was. They forced me to take a Pascal course in college and I have never used it since.
Why did you find it do bad? I wouldn't use it now, but I thought it was a wonderful teaching language. It had a simple syntax, it was easy to understand, quite powerful, very fast compilation time even on slow PCs, very nice IDE (Turbo/Borland Pascal)..
It made you think about how to solve a problem, instead of thinking about how to write the solution.
But, then, I learned it when I was 14, and I wasn't really thinking about "will I use this when I grow up".. Career growth potential is not an important aspect of one's life at that age:).
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Anyway, I've never owned a console before but I plan on getting a playstation 3. Why? Because the specs for PS3 are fucking ridiculous!!
Of course, there are no specs available for Xbox 2 and Gamecube 2, so to say that PS3 will have the best specs is a little premature.
Not to mention that PC graphics capabilities will be well ahead of all 3 of the consoles within months of their releases, as it was the case with the current generation.
Clone High is on Teletoon in Canada, the equivalent of the Cartoon Network in the US. Maybe Cartoon Network will pick it up down there, as well.. It is an excellent show!
This quote from the same page probably explains why you don't hear much about it in the news:
The weight of scientific opinion currently remains very much against the possibility of surface life of any kind on Mars. By contrast, opinion is more or less evenly divided on the issue of past life and of extant subterranean Martian life.
So, for now, it's just a theory by a couple of scientists, and not many others agree that the dark spots are vegetation.
Yeah, you're right, Dell doesn't know what they're doing. They have a history of making machines that nobody buys. They don't do any market research, and simply put random parts together and hope somebody makes a mistake of ordering them.
Maybe the weaker Lunar gravity had something to do with it.. Less gravity -> less friction -> more efficient motors.
Also, the Moon is closer to the Sun, and there's no atmosphere on the Moon, so maybe the solar panels work better there, as well.
Hey, wrong story. We already talked about that yesterday.
Besides, "new cell phones" vs. "old cell phones" does not really apply. Cell phones vs. land-line POT could be considered here -- i.e. many expected that POT would go away when cell phones became affordable..
Nobody "expected" old cell phones to be replaced by new cell phones. That was going to happen by definition of those words.
Software developped for these cards is really cool, of course, I never meant to say otherwise.
His post was talking about pixel and vertex shaders, which are enabled thanks to the huge advances in the hardware of the video cards. The old cards simply ran through 3d calculations and texture mapping, the new cards are completely programmable, with instructions, registers, etc. -- you run actual programs on them that are used to produce the amazing new effects you see in DX9 games.
If you read up on it a bit, I'm sure you'll quickly change your mind about the lack of revolutionary progress.
It's not the $10M that will kick-start the private manned space flight, it is achieving the goals required by the X-Prize that will prove that private space flight is possible and will get things going in the right direction.
I thought you said Hydrogen was hard to come by on the moon? Either its scarce or it makes up a large percentage of the "atmosphere" (along with helium). It can't be both.
Yes, it can. There is so little atmosphere on the Moon, that even if it was all hydrogen, it would still be scarce.
Erm... Are you talking tons or KILOtons here? Are you sure that that explosion was 2.5 kton (about 1e13 Joules, and about 1/6th of the Little Boy bomb at Hiroshima), and not 2.5 ton (about 1e10 Joules, and about 1/6000th of the Hiroshima bomb)?
According to this site, the amount of TNT that exploded was "only" 200 tons, but there was also 2,300 tons of picric acid. So, I'm not sure the impact of the acid is, but even if only TNT exploded, it's still a lot more than a 2.5 ton explosion.
What are the pros of using a fountain pen? I remember being forced to use those in grade school, and I hated them.. It was easy to smudge the ink, the pen had to be aligned properly to write nicely, etc. I had never thought that anybody would use them voluntarily?!
Because if you didn't have Trillian, you might've actually installed MSN Messanger to talk to those couple of friends who do use it..
I had MSN installed for a few months for just one user, until I switched to Trillian.
Mobile processors can usually alter their clock on the fly, but this requires tight intergration with the motherboard circuitry which is traditionally responsible for generating the CPU clock (which could probably also be programmed to overclock).
That's not correct, actually. The CPU reference clock is generated outside of the CPU, but it gets multiplied inside the CPU. So, when a mobile CPU wants to slow itself down, it just reduces the multiplier, while the reference clock remains the same
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The vast majority of consumer PCs ship with one of the following:
1. Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (a motherboard chipset roughly equivalent to a TNT2).
2. GeForce 4 MX (essentially GeForce 2 with more fillrate, but without programmable shaders).
Latest Mercury numbers indicate that Intel has under 30% graphics market share, and nVidia's integrated solution adds another 9% (half of the total AMD market). Vast majority? It's not even majority!
Look around for data to confirm things you hear from others before you spread the misinformation.
There is no aspect of a mission to Mars that has been realistically worked out, the human race is 50yrs to centuries away from a mission that complex.
Actually, almost everything has been worked out, except for the 'surviving the long flight time in space' part, altough a lot of work on that is done up on the ISS at the moment.
The rest of the mission is fairly straightforward, at least in the world of manned space travel.
Puntloos was talking about the fps difference between the 2 cards being reviewed, not between two different-generation cards...
True, but it just doesn't make sense to use the argument "one card is faster than the other by 3fps" to show how nobody would buy the card, when that same card is over twice as fast as the previous generation's best card!
I was just trying to answer his question, while trying to show that his argument doesn't apply to the question at hand.
(No, I haven't actually -read- the article :)
You didn't have to tell us.. it's pretty obvious from your comments.
I wonder why you bother posting on the topic, though? Do you reall want to know who would buy "this"?
My old Radeon 7000 couldn't run Madden 2003 in high-res with AA, so I bought a 9700, which does. The performance increase is from about 5fps to 70fps. A little more than 3.
But, then, you didn't really want to hear that, you just wanted to spread some FUD that you picked from somebody else's Slashdot post.
As for people buying NVIDIA cards, sure, plenty of people are buying them. NVIDIA's TNT2 is a popular low-cost 3D accelerator card that OEMS like Dell and emachines like to market.
That's a splendid piece of FUD. TNT2 has not been available on Dell, or any other major OEM, machines for quite a while now.
Why would they, anyway, when current integrated graphics is way ahead of TNT2, and is also cheaper.
I mean, how many apps really critically need that 2% parformance increase, but do not benefit from a dual or quad-cpu machine, a cluster, or a big non-x86 Unix machine?
A quad-cpu machine with the new CPU will still be faster than a quad-cpu machine with the old CPUs.
When you run thousands of jobs on a hundred dual-cpu machines overnight, 10% increase in speed is significant! It means hundreds more completed jobs per night.
When the fastest available is too slow, then any increase in speed is quite welcome.
Now that's a no-brainer.
My computer is by far not a high-end box, but PCI is a (small) bottle-neck, even for me.
Let's see: 2 IDE channels, 2 disks, that's 50 MB/s each, 1 GBit network, that's peak 100MB/s. A U2W SCSI host adapter with 1 single, very fast disk is good for 70MB/s. Then there is USB2 (everything is USB2 now) and Firewire (each 50MB/s). Adds up to (peak) 370MB/s.
On almost all modern chipsets, these devices do not use the pci bus at all, unless you've put it your own add-in cards. (so, I imagine SCSI host adapter is a separate device, but IDE, USB2, and LAN should all be integrated into the southbridge, which means that they will be using whatever proprietary standard the chipset you have is using)
So, yes, you can overload the pci by adding a lot of add-in cards, but for most users, most of these items will be provided by the chipset.
About the only stuff that has made it into the chipset are cheap soundcards (yes creative is cheap to) and some extremely cheap raid solutions. A lot of other stuff is still in one form or another on the PCI bus. Even if it is not included on a plugin board.
Southbridges haven't been connected to Northbridges through the PCI bus for a while now. Which means that eveyrthing that is integrated on the Southbridge does not run over PCI, but over HubLink, HyperTransport, A-Link, etc. (whatever chipset you happen to have)
And, modern integrated chipsets have IDE controllers, sound cards, network cards, and USB controllers all integrated.
Tell me again why this technology is necessary?
(1) bandwidth
AGP is pushed to the limits with 8x, and will not go any higher easily. PCI-Express, on the other hand, will easily start with the same bandwidth, and will have plenty of headroom for future cards.
(2) cost
If your audio card is only using 1MB/s, then you will use a slow x1 lane to hook it up, and your motherboard becomes way simpler and cheaper to design -- instead of routing 40 pins accross all PCI slots, you'll route 10 pins directly to the x1 slot.
As you can see here, x8 and x16 connectors will still have a good number of pins, so the connector will not actually be any smaller than the current AGP connector.
No no, you're forgetting how bad pascal was. They forced me to take a Pascal course in college and I have never used it since.
:).
Why did you find it do bad? I wouldn't use it now, but I thought it was a wonderful teaching language. It had a simple syntax, it was easy to understand, quite powerful, very fast compilation time even on slow PCs, very nice IDE (Turbo/Borland Pascal)..
It made you think about how to solve a problem, instead of thinking about how to write the solution.
But, then, I learned it when I was 14, and I wasn't really thinking about "will I use this when I grow up".. Career growth potential is not an important aspect of one's life at that age