Will the high latency seriously affect the overall download and upload speeds?
Speed isn't going to kill gameplay as much as latency will. Who cares if you're able to burst 2Mbit/second when it takes you half a second to register commands you send through the game realtime. Frag city, my friend.
christel: we will also try to coordinate so that we can get some things together for Debs and Benjamin, but at this point in time she has no particular wishes in that regard. Those wishing to help his family however, are encouraged to get in touch with us per email (again staff@freenode.net) and we will try connect you with those in the area that are coordinating support.
Hey, no problem. I kinda bashed the hell out of a select group of users that I deal with, and made it sound a little generalized in my initial post. I just hate those people.:-)
Yeah, I get the AppleTalk thing when discussions of printers come up too. Freakin' amazing, I tell you.
Incompetent SA's like you are the reason for monoculture. You are either lazy, excessively stupid or threatened by anything outside of your sphere of expertise. We have a mixed network of Macs and PC's here and the Macs are totally unsupported because the part time IT guy is an anachronistic "Anything not Windows sucks" guy. Yet our Macs keep going and going while he's walking around daily fixing broken Windows boxes.
Well, that's a hell of a lot of info to glean from what I posted. Unfortunately, you're about 100% wrong in your assumptions as to what goes on where I work, or what I support in addition to the Macs.
We have a mixed network of Windows PCs and servers, Solaris servers, Linux workstations and servers, and Macintosh workstations.
The Macintosh machines take a hell of a lot more support because the users are morons (as indicated in my original post). The machines are fine and dandy, and I even have one of my own to play with, so I can better support the goofballs.
The Macintosh machines could go away completely, and a competent user wouldn't be fazed a bit, as the applications and work performed on the Macs are ALSO performed on PCs elsewhere in the organization. The SAME exact work. There is no single reason to require an entirely different platform for this small group of users.
I also generally observe that the Mac folk know *much* more about their machine, how they work, and how to troubleshoot if something goes wrong. The majority of Windows folk here know nothing about their machines, throw up their hands and stop working if something goes wrong and wait for IT guy to come around.
Again, 100% opposite of the people I have to support. These people cannot manage their fonts, cannot figure out how to print to different printers (uh, duh?), do NOT maintain their machines, do NOT know anything other than how to point and click at a JPEG file.
The Windows people are not much better (a very non-technical company), but most of them know how to submit a help desk ticket and accurately describe their issues, which leads to quicker resolutions of the issues.
Who's more productive? Which platform is costing the company less?
The Mac people can one thing due to their limited skill sets and knowledge, which is play with JPEGs and PDFs. The people on PCs who also play with JPEGs and PDFs also do administrative tasks. The Mac people are dead weight from what I can tell.
I find that people that try to use a single tool for everything don't really understand much of anything - they just know how to use that tool.
I couldn't have said it better myself when it comes to describing the mentality of the Mac people where I work.
"Could you pass me a rubber mallet? I need to pound this piece in here without damaging the finish."
"Uhh, all I have is my sledgehammer. Rubber mallets suck."
"But a sledgehammer will destroy the finish. It's not the right tool."
"It's sledgehammer or nothing. If you don't like it, find something else to do. I use a sledgehammer for everything."
"But your sledgehammer isn't even in good shape. I mean, look at it - the hammer is being held onto the handle with a couple of bent nails and the handle is broken in two and simply held together with duct tape."
[Runs around in circles shouting]"Sledgehammer! Sledgehammer! Sledgehammer! Enemies of sledgehammer must be eliminated!"
Again, describes the Mac people perfectly. "Macs are so much better than PCs, blah, blah, blah..."
Everyone where I work is pretty good with software and hardware. I maintain EVERYONE'S systems, regardless of architecture, which has been and continues to be quite diverse.
Machines I can fix, users I cannot.
Sorry if my Mac users are morons who give good Mac users a bad name.
Sounds more like you had incompetent people in your video production department, and an IT director who didn't want to be stuck in the stone ages with hardware he had to support.
Sorry, but I deal with the same type of Mac users where I work. I'd love to get rid of the Macs, and hopefully the majority of the idiots behind those keyboards.
Why not charge more? The more legit users they can get to pirate software, the more reason they have to implement DRM and other wasteful technologies to combat piracy, etc.
They're making work for themselves, basically, and charging honest people a hell of a lot of money to stay honest.
Good luck to them. I've finally collected the last pieces of the puzzle for Linux at home, and will be removing the last Windows machine (wife's PC) off of my network in a matter of weeks.
I fly primarily for work related reasons, and usually at a moment's notice. So, I'm checking computer hardware (for repair), carrying on a laptop and junk, and don't have any clothing. I get selected for the full TSA treatment quite often.
Tape rules the day for cost effectiveness at just about any reasonable scale, and it's a very robust medium for extended shelf life. not a whole lot can go wrong with a tape, really.
Hard drives for off-site storage aren't bad either, but can be costly initially.
It's kinda interesting, the last comment regarding having a single individual who's word is basically law in a project. It's worked for the Linux kernel, and the longest surviving Linux distribution (Slackware).
I was never a fan of the political backend of Debian, but I recognize the developers' contributions to the distribution. Maybe now that Ubuntu is popular and succeeding, a change in the way politics are done at Debian is on the horizon?
Yes, but not like Mac's. When you put the machine to sleep, it consumes next to no battery power and goes to sleep and wakes up very quickly. (ie. usually by the time I get the laptop lid all the way open, it's already up) I know when I had my old toshiba, when I put it to sleep I was lucky if it lasted through the day on the battery. (ie. sleeping most of the time, not using it obviously)
I've always understood the term "sleep" (or "standby") to mean save the machine's state to RAM, and go into a very low power mode.
"Hibernate" was when the machine saved its state to the hard disk, and completely powered off. This would allow you to remove the battery, and still resume from where you left off, even on Windows machines.
In fact, the one downside to apple switching to the intel chips is the new MBP's can't swap the battery out while sleeping. I don't know why this is but this was an awesome feature of the old powerbooks. Close the lid (which puts the computer to sleep), flip it over, swap the battery, open it up... no reboot required.
Intel hardware can suspend/hibernate to disk (has been able to for years), which would allow you to remove the battery.
In fact, just to make sure I wasn't going to post an outright lie on/., after typing this post, I put my IBM T30 running XP into hibernation, disconnected the AC power, and pulled the battery for three minutes. System resumed, got an IP via DHCP, reattached my USB devices, etc.
Who's implementing it now? Apple's had it for quite some time now and as you said, linux and windows also have this feature. I'm confused.
I was referring to the sound at startup topic, not putting a machine into sleep/standby/hibernation.
What a load of crap. I support Macs and PCs, with various notebooks from both camps, and my users don't seem to have any issues with Windows or Mac OS X going to sleep and waking back up.
From my experience, they both work fairly reliably, and that's not just talking about the hardware that I personally use every day.
I live northwest of Chicago, IL, USA. It's freakin' cold out, during the winter.
The light on the front of my house is an indoor CFL, inside a small glass enclosure. It doesn't get wet ever. The same type of bulb in my garage will take a very long time to start when it gets below freezing. If you turn them on and leave them on, they tend to stay on, no matter how cold it gets (from what I've experienced).
Well, I'm not exactly rich, and I managed to replace all of the lights in my house with CFLs. I even have one by my front door (14W) that has been on for over three years (except for power outages).
Yeah, they cost more up front, but I've only had to replace two bulbs (out of about 20) in over three and a half years.
I use them outdoors, indoors, you name it. I recently bought two of the yellow tinted bulbs that don't attract bugs for my back yard, and they work great.
The smaller wattage CFLs work GREAT with a standard UPS when the power goes out. Lots of light for a long time.
That's the site I remember seeing a while back when I first heard of allegations of poor reporting from British news outlets on events in the middle east.
LOL... THAT would be an interesting way to fend off rabid animal activists!
Didn't realize California was that backwards with their gun laws. Can you at least own a shotgun for home defense?
I'm not suggesting that ALF extremists should not be considered terrorists, just that they do not require the full attention of our nation's military at this present time. They should be dealt with locally (personal or local law enforcement). If they get out of hand, and cannot be handled by the local authorities, then you call in the troops to sort things out.
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Speed isn't going to kill gameplay as much as latency will. Who cares if you're able to burst 2Mbit/second when it takes you half a second to register commands you send through the game realtime. Frag city, my friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Internet
You do realize that SOMEONE will be making those broadcasts, as they are generally used to notify users of impending/existing server/network issues.
Incredibly tasteless at a time like this. Please mod this jerk down.
The point was I tested my own weapons of mass discomfort on myself before subjecting others to these devices.
I'd expect the government do something similar: Test their new toys thoroughly before subjection others to those devices.
Get it now?
I see no reason to not do this. When I was playing paintball, we designed and built a paintball bazooka (single shot, 20 balls).
Before this thing even went to the battlefield, we tested it extensively, including shooting it at myself and another brave soul.
Man, that SOB hurt like hell within 50', but it was pretty fun to play with.
Hey, no problem. I kinda bashed the hell out of a select group of users that I deal with, and made it sound a little generalized in my initial post. I just hate those people. :-)
Yeah, I get the AppleTalk thing when discussions of printers come up too. Freakin' amazing, I tell you.
Well, that's a hell of a lot of info to glean from what I posted. Unfortunately, you're about 100% wrong in your assumptions as to what goes on where I work, or what I support in addition to the Macs.
We have a mixed network of Windows PCs and servers, Solaris servers, Linux workstations and servers, and Macintosh workstations.
The Macintosh machines take a hell of a lot more support because the users are morons (as indicated in my original post). The machines are fine and dandy, and I even have one of my own to play with, so I can better support the goofballs.
The Macintosh machines could go away completely, and a competent user wouldn't be fazed a bit, as the applications and work performed on the Macs are ALSO performed on PCs elsewhere in the organization. The SAME exact work. There is no single reason to require an entirely different platform for this small group of users.
Again, 100% opposite of the people I have to support. These people cannot manage their fonts, cannot figure out how to print to different printers (uh, duh?), do NOT maintain their machines, do NOT know anything other than how to point and click at a JPEG file.
The Windows people are not much better (a very non-technical company), but most of them know how to submit a help desk ticket and accurately describe their issues, which leads to quicker resolutions of the issues.
The Mac people can one thing due to their limited skill sets and knowledge, which is play with JPEGs and PDFs. The people on PCs who also play with JPEGs and PDFs also do administrative tasks. The Mac people are dead weight from what I can tell.
I couldn't have said it better myself when it comes to describing the mentality of the Mac people where I work.
Again, describes the Mac people perfectly. "Macs are so much better than PCs, blah, blah, blah..."
Everyone where I work is pretty good with software and hardware. I maintain EVERYONE'S systems, regardless of architecture, which has been and continues to be quite diverse.
Machines I can fix, users I cannot.
Sorry if my Mac users are morons who give good Mac users a bad name.
Sounds more like you had incompetent people in your video production department, and an IT director who didn't want to be stuck in the stone ages with hardware he had to support.
Sorry, but I deal with the same type of Mac users where I work. I'd love to get rid of the Macs, and hopefully the majority of the idiots behind those keyboards.
Oh, great. First they take our jobs, now they're taking the employees outright!
Thanks, but no thanks. India is definately on the list of places I'll never live, regardless of the job market or pay scale.
Why not charge more? The more legit users they can get to pirate software, the more reason they have to implement DRM and other wasteful technologies to combat piracy, etc.
They're making work for themselves, basically, and charging honest people a hell of a lot of money to stay honest.
Good luck to them. I've finally collected the last pieces of the puzzle for Linux at home, and will be removing the last Windows machine (wife's PC) off of my network in a matter of weeks.
No more fucking MS bullshit. Adios.
Good point. Guess that's why there aren't many nudist terrorists.
I fly primarily for work related reasons, and usually at a moment's notice. So, I'm checking computer hardware (for repair), carrying on a laptop and junk, and don't have any clothing. I get selected for the full TSA treatment quite often.
Big deal.
Tape rules the day for cost effectiveness at just about any reasonable scale, and it's a very robust medium for extended shelf life. not a whole lot can go wrong with a tape, really.
Hard drives for off-site storage aren't bad either, but can be costly initially.
I was in ##slackware on freenode when I heard.
To hell with slicing and dicing the pensu.
None of my children will ever have to go through that crap, religion be damned.
It's kinda interesting, the last comment regarding having a single individual who's word is basically law in a project. It's worked for the Linux kernel, and the longest surviving Linux distribution (Slackware).
I was never a fan of the political backend of Debian, but I recognize the developers' contributions to the distribution. Maybe now that Ubuntu is popular and succeeding, a change in the way politics are done at Debian is on the horizon?
I've always understood the term "sleep" (or "standby") to mean save the machine's state to RAM, and go into a very low power mode.
"Hibernate" was when the machine saved its state to the hard disk, and completely powered off. This would allow you to remove the battery, and still resume from where you left off, even on Windows machines.
Intel hardware can suspend/hibernate to disk (has been able to for years), which would allow you to remove the battery.
In fact, just to make sure I wasn't going to post an outright lie on
I was referring to the sound at startup topic, not putting a machine into sleep/standby/hibernation.
What a load of crap. I support Macs and PCs, with various notebooks from both camps, and my users don't seem to have any issues with Windows or Mac OS X going to sleep and waking back up.
From my experience, they both work fairly reliably, and that's not just talking about the hardware that I personally use every day.
Suspend and sleep are also "features" in Windows, in case you didn't know. I believe Linux has decent support for those "features" as well.
At any rate, it's pretty dumb to implement this now.
I live northwest of Chicago, IL, USA. It's freakin' cold out, during the winter.
The light on the front of my house is an indoor CFL, inside a small glass enclosure. It doesn't get wet ever. The same type of bulb in my garage will take a very long time to start when it gets below freezing. If you turn them on and leave them on, they tend to stay on, no matter how cold it gets (from what I've experienced).
Well, I'm not exactly rich, and I managed to replace all of the lights in my house with CFLs. I even have one by my front door (14W) that has been on for over three years (except for power outages).
Yeah, they cost more up front, but I've only had to replace two bulbs (out of about 20) in over three and a half years.
I use them outdoors, indoors, you name it. I recently bought two of the yellow tinted bulbs that don't attract bugs for my back yard, and they work great.
The smaller wattage CFLs work GREAT with a standard UPS when the power goes out. Lots of light for a long time.
http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html
That's the site I remember seeing a while back when I first heard of allegations of poor reporting from British news outlets on events in the middle east.
Weren't British news outlets recently called out for NOT reporting accurately on events in the middle east? Or was it just the BBC?
LOL... THAT would be an interesting way to fend off rabid animal activists!
Didn't realize California was that backwards with their gun laws. Can you at least own a shotgun for home defense?
I'm not suggesting that ALF extremists should not be considered terrorists, just that they do not require the full attention of our nation's military at this present time. They should be dealt with locally (personal or local law enforcement). If they get out of hand, and cannot be handled by the local authorities, then you call in the troops to sort things out.