Copyrighting the class library API, which is half of Oracle's charges here, is a severe lockdown.
Sun always held and maintained copyright, but for the most part they were a benevolent dictator. Oracle seems to not understand what they have, and what they are now in the process of losing.
IBMs failure to close the deal with Sun will probably be considered the final nail in the coffin of open source Java.
I am both puzzled and worried by Oracle's motivation here. It sounds to me like Oracle is actually going to kill Java by making it impossible to adopt in the name of trying to leverage the (very expensive) IP they bought along with Sun.
Sounds like we need a new, and truly open, language and runtime for the 21st century.
Isn't the code for Sun's standard java library GPL along with the rest of OpenJDK? If so, it should be completely legal to copy it as much as you want.
Not all of Sun's Java code went into Harmony et. al. So, maybe.
However, I am both puzzled and worried by Oracle's motivation here. It sounds to me like Oracle is actually going to kill Java by making it impossible to adopt in the name of trying to leverage the (very expensive) IP they bought along with Sun.
Sounds like we need a new, and truly open, language and runtime for the 21st century.
He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round Perdition's flames before I give him up!
I have an iPhone4. I'm also in Canada and on the Rogers network.
...
I just went to the US (Southern California) and my iPhone was pratically un-useable, case or not. It was entirely useless as a phone, and mostly useless for any kind of data use. Basically, the fucker was a giant brick for all intents and purposes, at least as a communications device.
Based on that...I still don't hate my iPhone...but I sure as fuck despise AT&T's shitty service.
As a Rogers customer I'm constantly split between hating them for making me pay through the nose and loving them for having a kick-ass network.
Why is today's Slashdot reading more and more like an RMS essay?
I have to agree, however what is scaring me more is that Apple's devices are actually fun, easy to use and convenient for the a average user and hardened geek alike!
Why couldn't some linux loving major vendor like IBM build something that actually works? (Yes FreeRunner, I'm looking at you... oh sure go all blackscreen and pretend you didn't hear me... )
Risk of "falling in" and coming out of your trance 3 hours later with 20 new browser tabs open? tvtropes and wikipedia are both.orgs, so I bet.org is the riskiest TLD.
This is true, I visited tvtropes one Saturday afternoon; when I regained consciousness it was Wednesday, I was naked and there were three dead hookers in the basement.
I'm typing this on a Mac Mini (running FreeBSD), but still the MB Air seems like a lot of money to me for a netbook running OS X. Especially when you see how nice Ubuntu is (for n00b types, anyway) on a netbook that costs half as much or less...
Of course it's a lot of money, we're talking about the top 5% of the laptop market. They really couldn't give a crap about us; the 0.1% of the market who build their own machines and recompile the kernel.
I do not remember being asked what I think about seat belts. It is slapped on me, though not me wearing seat belt very hardly affects anybody but me.
I guess you're too young to remember when seat belts were considered as controversial and radical as gay marriage, global warming and alternative power are now.
Assuming that you've already chosen the right project and language, then the one thing you can do that will both give you experience and earn you street-cred is to go through the bug lists and find things to fix.
Seems British subjects are being oppressed. Why don't we liberate them and annex Britain to the U.S.? Of course they'd have to give up that silly royalty business.
Not such a bad plan all things considered, besides we know for a fact that they REALLY DO have WMD.
Because I am not getting the connection between industrial RTOS experience and producing a consumer tablet.
Note that the first product of Sharp, known today for electronics, was a mechanical pencil. Don't be so quick to look down your nose that you lose focus.
Funnily, I was a contractor at IBM at around the time of the lawsuit, and we had a couple of SCO boxes in order to provide printer driver support for the platform. True story!
I'm in the an IBM Rational lab. We've got old SCO manuals on the shelf from before IBM bought Rational. It makes me smile every day.
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Copyrighting the class library API, which is half of Oracle's charges here, is a severe lockdown.
Sun always held and maintained copyright, but for the most part they were a benevolent dictator. Oracle seems to not understand what they have, and what they are now in the process of losing.
IBMs failure to close the deal with Sun will probably be considered the final nail in the coffin of open source Java.
I am both puzzled and worried by Oracle's motivation here. It sounds to me like Oracle is actually going to kill Java by making it impossible to adopt in the name of trying to leverage the (very expensive) IP they bought along with Sun.
Sounds like we need a new, and truly open, language and runtime for the 21st century.
Isn't the code for Sun's standard java library GPL along with the rest of OpenJDK? If so, it should be completely legal to copy it as much as you want.
Not all of Sun's Java code went into Harmony et. al. So, maybe.
However, I am both puzzled and worried by Oracle's motivation here. It sounds to me like Oracle is actually going to kill Java by making it impossible to adopt in the name of trying to leverage the (very expensive) IP they bought along with Sun.
Sounds like we need a new, and truly open, language and runtime for the 21st century.
Word up dog.
Sooner or later you will have to let go.
He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round Perdition's flames before I give him up!
KHAAAAAN!
How this qualifies as a troll is beyond me.
I have an iPhone4. I'm also in Canada and on the Rogers network.
...
I just went to the US (Southern California) and my iPhone was pratically un-useable, case or not. It was entirely useless as a phone, and mostly useless for any kind of data use. Basically, the fucker was a giant brick for all intents and purposes, at least as a communications device.
Based on that...I still don't hate my iPhone...but I sure as fuck despise AT&T's shitty service.
As a Rogers customer I'm constantly split between hating them for making me pay through the nose and loving them for having a kick-ass network.
Not being interested in a device at all and not being interested in it if it doesn't include oral sex are very different things.
Now there's an interesting research topic, are people who buy iPhones more or less sexually active than the average or do they simply WISH they were?
Fast enough to use Slashdot... fast enough to run the Google pac-man...
Why is today's Slashdot reading more and more like an RMS essay?
I have to agree, however what is scaring me more is that Apple's devices are actually fun, easy to use and convenient for the a average user and hardened geek alike!
Why couldn't some linux loving major vendor like IBM build something that actually works? (Yes FreeRunner, I'm looking at you... oh sure go all blackscreen and pretend you didn't hear me... )
Risk of "falling in" and coming out of your trance 3 hours later with 20 new browser tabs open? tvtropes and wikipedia are both .orgs, so I bet .org is the riskiest TLD.
This is true, I visited tvtropes one Saturday afternoon; when I regained consciousness it was Wednesday, I was naked and there were three dead hookers in the basement.
He has a monopoly on that, you know.
If he tries to patent it his head will explode.
My calc I book was written by a guy named Stewart, and I took that in 09.
Just last week my daughter informed me that she recognized her Stuart text that she's using in University from my bookshelf.
... but still dead.
Great, Austrian cyborg Zombies. What could possibly go wrong?
I'm typing this on a Mac Mini (running FreeBSD), but still the MB Air seems like a lot of money to me for a netbook running OS X. Especially when you see how nice Ubuntu is (for n00b types, anyway) on a netbook that costs half as much or less...
Of course it's a lot of money, we're talking about the top 5% of the laptop market. They really couldn't give a crap about us; the 0.1% of the market who build their own machines and recompile the kernel.
That's industrial-grade stupid.
Interstate running through his front yard and he thinks he's got it so good. But ain't that America?
I do not remember being asked what I think about seat belts. It is slapped on me, though not me wearing seat belt very hardly affects anybody but me.
I guess you're too young to remember when seat belts were considered as controversial and radical as gay marriage, global warming and alternative power are now.
UMADBRO?
Assuming that you've already chosen the right project and language, then the one thing you can do that will both give you experience and earn you street-cred is to go through the bug lists and find things to fix.
Seems British subjects are being oppressed. Why don't we liberate them and annex Britain to the U.S.? Of course they'd have to give up that silly royalty business.
Not such a bad plan all things considered, besides we know for a fact that they REALLY DO have WMD.
Canadian planes should have 'NATOTAN' written on them . . . .
No, that would be NATOTAN-Eh
Sadly, as a Canadian computer geek, my natotan-fu is weak eh?
Because I am not getting the connection between industrial RTOS experience and producing a consumer tablet.
Note that the first product of Sharp, known today for electronics, was a mechanical pencil. Don't be so quick to look down your nose that you lose focus.
Oh, you meant new tablet competitor. My bad!
New? QNX has been in the embedded market for over 18 years! Hell, they have more experience with multitasking and unix on small devices than Apple!
The SDK does not look so promising though, HTML and Flash? WTF?
Where's my native code?
Funnily, I was a contractor at IBM at around the time of the lawsuit, and we had a couple of SCO boxes in order to provide printer driver support for the platform. True story!
I'm in the an IBM Rational lab. We've got old SCO manuals on the shelf from before IBM bought Rational. It makes me smile every day.