This is a documentation failure. They're fixing the documentation. For anyone who would actually care about perfect accuracy in these kinds of operations, there are any number of different solutions to achieve the desired, more accurate result.
I'm a maths graduate. I'll tell you now that I wouldn't rely on a FPU instruction to be anywhere near accurate. If I was doing anything serious, I'd be plugging into Maple, Matlab, Mathematica and similar who DO NOT rely on hardware instructions.
I am a terrorist. I am designing the detonator for a bomb with a nuclear yield. I absolutely need those instructions to be in hardware so my calculations can finish before the heat death of the universe. Your software math programs fail at that.
International groups wanted the U.S. to step in sooner to help fight the outbreak in west Africa
What the fuck? Why not ask Russia, Japan, Italy, Brazil, South Africa, etc to step in and stop the outbreak? Why America? Why not someone else? Is Sweden or the UK lacking in medical knowledge? Is it about money? China has none? Is it about personnel? India doesn't have people?
Seriously, why call on America when everyone knows how evil and totalitarian America is? I just do not get it. On one hand, we get, "Get away from us. You are evil." and on the other hand, we have, "Hey, we know you are nice guys. Can you help us?"
Really? If you shit on someone, don't go asking them for help afterwards. America should not help, but America is better than that and will help anyways.
No, children, the trolls were not here first. Some of us remember that human beings inhabited the Internet before the Eternal September.
WTF are you talking about? Trolling was a high art long before Eternal September. I recall seeing some pretty incredible trolling on Usenet long before the AOL masses were unleashed onto the Internet.
You cannot ever prove that the NSA (or whichever agency) does not snoop
Erm, the reason the NSA is an issue is because it is part of the one of the very few governments on the planet that did NOT snoop on your internet traffic as a matter of course.
In other words, if you are from a non-Western country, it is guaranteed that your packets are being snooped and your traffic analyzed at all times. Even many Western nations do not explicitly guarantee that your packets are not snooped.
Ultimately, nobody should have EVER trusted that their communications were not being snooped regardless of where they are from. People have an unyielding need to snoop on others. Governments are uniquely placed to do such things, but you can bet your ass that private entities are doing what they can to snoop on your packets (and anything else you do!) as surely as governments are.
That, and there are the corruptable binary logs, the solution to which in the bug report is to "just delete them" and the bug has been closed as won't fix. Sorry, but if this is the resposne to journal corruption rather than finding out WHY the journals get corrupted and fixing the fuckign problem, then i do not want that in control of my logfiles.
Log files are unimportant to the people who are writing and advocating for SystemD.
Logs files are criminally important to those who have to report to regulatory agencies and otherwise important to those who manage systems for others (businesses and governments). None of those agencies will accept missing, incomplete, or corrupted log files during an investigation.
The people writing this software need to get serious or get out. Logs are of vital importance.
It seems like I am surrounded by inexperienced children who have no adults to discipline them.
And you come to EXACTLY the wrong conclusion. Here is how it should really go.
Article: Someone is fixing VTs and making them more secure and reliable.
Comments: Fuck yeah! VTs worked but they certainly needed improvement.
Article: SystemD is integrating VTs.
Comments: What the fuck?! I can understand someone wanting to fix VTs but why in God's name are they integrating it into SystemD? It already has 69 fucking subsystems, all of which come crashing down if there is an error in even one. Why would I want my VTs to be integrated into that mess?
You: People are complaining about someone fixing VTs.
...understand that this has been an important feature that has been needed for a long time in any init system...
Odd. I thought the VTs were an output mechanism for the kernel along with serial ports. VTs are not just a console for when a GUI is not available.
Regardless of any of that, what do VTs have to do with an init system and why are they required to be part of an init system? I see no need for the two to even be slightly related other than an init system using a VT as an output device to let the user know what it is doing. That certainly does not require that the VT code be part of the init system.
God. What is up with some of the people here? Are they (you!) being purposefully ignorant or what?
Again, though, this has nothing to do with the idea of putting kernel VT code in userspace. There are valid arguments against this idea, but I've not read of any on slashdot yet. Just knee-jerk teeth knashing, and, sadly, more inappropriate ad hominom attacks.
NOBODY is arguing about whether or not VTs should be in kernel space or user space. Well, perhaps there is some discussion somewhere about it.
No, the question is whether or not the VTs should be part of SystemD.... You know what? Fuck it. If there is an error with SystemD, you can't fix it anyways, so why should it matter whether or not a fucking console ever shows up because one of your filesystems was corrupted and SystemD decided to hang forever. We can all just reinstall from an image quickly anyways. We should all stop being attached to such things.
If it were not for Metro and IOS 7 and Gnome 3, I would say SystemD was just an advanced form of trolling the technically literate people... but this stuff is for real and it is serious. It just boggles the mind. Has half of the world just gone off the deep end? WTF?
From a (now) outsider looking in, this whole systemd fiasco looks a lot like Linux finally being dragged into the 21st century through the sheer willpower of one man...
If binary log files and inflexible failure modes are 21st century, I want no part of it. I would rather have simple text log files and the ability to recover from failure when things do not go quite like they should have. Do I want better tools that can interoperate simply and easily? You bet. Is SystemD (now with consoles!) that solution? No.
And then there is the Real World where people fill up their tank, reset their trip meter, and divide the distance traveled since the last time they filled up by the number of liters/gallons inserted into the fuel tank.
Random numbers here: 300 kilometers traveled using 30 liters of fuel gives you 1 liter to travel 10km.
What is easiest? Liters per kilometer or kilometers per liter? Liter per kilometers is easier.
This is not based on whether or not distance or cost is more important.
Of course, this is all ignoring the fact that US is a democracy. You don't need a revolution to change the people in charge, you simply need to express support for someone else, and anonymously at that. So if the rulers approve of bullshit like this, and still get re-elected, then don't blame the Government, blame the citizens.
Shut up. You are blind and ignorant. Hopefully, you are merely naive.
Did GNOME 1 have haters when it was introduced? How about GNOME 2? What about KDE 1? KDE 2? KDE 3? ALSA?
No. These were all improvements of what came before.
KDE 4? GNOME 3? SystemD? Windows 8? Slashdot BETA?
These were not improvements. These things were/are either grossly unstable, removed functionality, or in the case of SystemD, both. Sure, some things were gained, but compared to what was lost, these were terrible choices.
What was lost when ALSA was introduced? Nothing. Was it perfect at first? No. Was it better than Open Sound System? You bet.
What was lost when GNOME was introduced? Nothing. Was it perfect at first? No. Was it better than TWM? Definitely.
What was lost when SystemD was introduced? Oh my god, I can give you a HUGE list. Parsable log files and flexible failure modes being the ones that irritate me the most but others have compiled more useful lists of what was lost. Was it better than init? In some ways, yes. In other ways, no.
What was lost when Windows 8 was introduced. Well, again, the list is huge but I will just list the obvious for brevity: The start menu. Was it better than Windows 7? Arguably no.
So, you, yes you, are either dumb or playing dumb by claiming that people just hate change. Change is good when it leads to better things. Everyone wants better. The noises you are hearing are about things NOT being better.
They shouldn't. The alternative explainations(sic) as to where that energy is going are far more concerning.
I disagree with your assessment. The most terrifying "natural" thing is the Sun. It is relatively close and unimaginably huge. It has "waves" on its surface that are 17km high and 100,000 km long... and these are just small, regularly occurring ripples. When the Sun gets all uppity, amazingly huge amounts of energy are released. So far, the Earth has been lucky and has not been hit by some of the larger "projectiles" that the Sun shoots out at relativistic velocities. None of this takes into account the potential for even larger bad behavior events like we have seen with other stars such as the variability of the brown dwarfs or stars going nova or supernova.
Why did I write all of that? Because the second most terrifying "natural" thing is the ocean. It is absolutely mind bogglingly huge and it is fluid. A mere drop in comparison to the Sun but the surface area of the ocean is considerably larger than all the land masses combined. It readily absorbs and emits heat. It is everywhere you look. The ocean is large enough to hide Chtulu and Leviathan with plenty of space to spare. The first time I saw the ocean I feared it greatly. I had no idea what large was until I saw it. I was absolutely stunned at the enormity of what I could see and even then, I was seeing just a microscopic portion of it.
When http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2... occurred, I had heard reports of people walking out to look at the sea bed that was revealed. The concept shocked me. I would have been running in terror... it is water. If it pulls back from the shore like that, it WILL be coming back. With a vengeance. Which it did.
The ocean is a huge terrifying thing that moves. Adding heat to it is the scariest thing that could occur on this planet short of the Sun acting differently. The ocean is where we ultimately came from and it is likely where we will eventually die.
In short, I am VERY relieved to hear that the bottom of the ocean is not warming. The eventual release of that energy would be incredibly stunning in its magnitude. The ocean moderates our environment. We are utterly dependent on the "health" of the ocean for our lives, just as surely as we are utterly dependent on the "health" of the sun for our lives.
There's no doubt they're coordinating their attacks on our freedom, but who is driving the campaign and what is their end goal?
I do not know who, but we read about it in Brave New World and 1984. They want power. Absolute, soul crushing, power. The infamous "they" are closer than ever before to getting it... but what then? Absolute power is not enough to satisfy. After a decade or two, what then? There will be incredible death and destruction.
And the cycle will begin again... probably with sticks and stones this time.
Who cares about global warming or vaccine caused autism? The atmosphere is being corrupted and people are dying or being permanently disfigured due to diseases.
I want to breathe fresh air, not air with mercury, coal dust, carbon particles, and various nasty gasses in it. I would rather my children take the risk of being autistic than the certainty of a crippling disease like polio.
Fuck all of the controversy! I want clean air to breathe and a lack of terrible diseases to infect my children.
I remember way back in Kindergarten the teacher made fun of the weatherman. His prediction was put on the calendar every day as sunny/raining/etc. The teacher made a red X on every day that the weatherman was wrong. The weatherman was wrong more often than not. There were a LOT of red Xs on the calendar... not that I really understood the calendar that well but red is red.
There has been a LOT of progress made recently. The weather predictions are a lot more accurate nowadays. Almost worrisomely so.
Say what?! Reagan was a hardcore far right Republican. What we have now is not even mappable on the sanity chart. This shit is crazy. As in absolutely unbelievable, fiction can't even get this over the top crazy. Forget right and left. The needle has gone entirely off of the scales.
People who go into the military with the idea that they want to meet interesting people AND KILL them usually get weeded out in basic training/boot camp. If not, they get weeded out in AIT (occupational training). People like that simply aren't stable enough to get through training in the modern army.
Nobody else really goes into the military with the notion that they want to go out and kill people.
That is not true. Well, not entirely true even if for the most part it is true.
Ever been near the 18th Airborne? Yeah, those guys are killers. They are almost pure animals. They built a special compound on Camp Buehring (Udairi) for them to transfer into Iraq. That compound had barbed wire leaning in as well as out. Why in? To keep those monsters from escaping and causing trouble for all of the other units heading up to Iraq.
18th Airborne is not entirely unique in this matter either. That is why I say what you say is untrue.
Some Marines join so they can kill... but the Marines have a whole different set of discipline. They never had to be segregated. Neither did the 82nd Airborne.
There are lots of experiences that can be good for you as a person if you have the right personality and mindset. Serving in the military can teach you a lot about discipline, sacrifice, teamwork etc. but I would have been hopeless unsuited for such an experience.
I am the textbook case for someone who should never have joined the military. I did join despite the glaring fact that I am desperately unsuited to do so.
It has benefited me to a much larger extent that I would have ever imagined. No, I could do all the stupid "do this merely because we want to break you" crap. In some ways, that stuff was easy, so it was not discipline or teamwork or any of that stuff that benefited me. No. What the benefit was is the people that I met who opened doors for me later. Well, there were a few other benefits like making E5 in the shortest possible time proving that I had mettle and earning an honorable discharge proving that I can do what is required regardless of adversities.
In summary, any shared difficult experience (college? military?) can lead to incredible possibilities even if you are unsuited for those difficult experiences. The thing that is required is that you do the best that you can. I was once offered a driver position by UPS despite never doing the line work. Why? Because I did the best that I could, no excuses. Even after I turned them down the first time, they called me back again. I felt terrible turning them down the second time they called. An opportunity like that usually only knocks once.
Now that many peripherals hot-plug, that model is obsolete. Many people find it painful to switch to an "everything is dynamic" model, especially since, for many server applications, there is no hot-plugging.
You are normally not a moron, so it pains me to say this: You are being intentionally obtuse.
If systemd ONLY did what you are claiming everyone is so unhappy about, then NOBODY would be unhappy about systemd. Have you not been listening to the expressive and coherent descriptions of why people find systemd so fundamentally objectionable?
A shame. Despite me not liking your position/ownership on patents concerning ragdoll physics, I have always thought you were a reasonable person... but this intentional blindness, this willful ignorance of what makes people reject systemd at such a fundamental level... I just don't know man. I just do not know. I am sad.
I am a bad person. I ran across a bundle of these pics the other day and decided to look at them.
Honestly, there was nothing terribly exciting or shameful about the pics. They were pictures of people doing what people do. A couple of the pics almost rose to the level of porn as did a couple of the.mov files... but meh. Again, why would anyone be shocked that beautiful people have sex and exhibit sexual desires? None of this is scandalous and I see none of the people any differently than I saw them before. I actually forgot most of their names already. I seem to recall... Kirsten Dunst being in about 4 pictures but I think they were just breast shots. Not a huge deal. We have already seen most of her breasts already, just the nipple being missing. Hell, she probably had a topless scene in one of her movies already anyways.
It is shameful that anyone would see the pictures as scandalous. Everyone who considers the pictures to be scandalous are either terrible terrible people or people who are boring victims of society. No, the only scandal here is that someone is breaking in to other peoples' accounts and grabbing personal information. I really should not have viewed the pictures myself. I just wanted to see what all the yelling and screaming was about. The yelling and screaming is about the wrong thing, the pictures, rather than the right thing, the invasion of privacy.
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This is a documentation failure. They're fixing the documentation. For anyone who would actually care about perfect accuracy in these kinds of operations, there are any number of different solutions to achieve the desired, more accurate result.
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c... argues directly against your dismissive attitude.
I'm a maths graduate. I'll tell you now that I wouldn't rely on a FPU instruction to be anywhere near accurate. If I was doing anything serious, I'd be plugging into Maple, Matlab, Mathematica and similar who DO NOT rely on hardware instructions.
I am a terrorist. I am designing the detonator for a bomb with a nuclear yield. I absolutely need those instructions to be in hardware so my calculations can finish before the heat death of the universe. Your software math programs fail at that.
International groups wanted the U.S. to step in sooner to help fight the outbreak in west Africa
What the fuck? Why not ask Russia, Japan, Italy, Brazil, South Africa, etc to step in and stop the outbreak? Why America? Why not someone else? Is Sweden or the UK lacking in medical knowledge? Is it about money? China has none? Is it about personnel? India doesn't have people?
Seriously, why call on America when everyone knows how evil and totalitarian America is? I just do not get it. On one hand, we get, "Get away from us. You are evil." and on the other hand, we have, "Hey, we know you are nice guys. Can you help us?"
Really? If you shit on someone, don't go asking them for help afterwards. America should not help, but America is better than that and will help anyways.
This girl has already done more in the less than 2 decades she's been alive then the whole of the Slashdot community combined.
I would not be so sure of that if I were you... Not everyone here posts under their real name and lists their real life accomplishments.
No, children, the trolls were not here first. Some of us remember that human beings inhabited the Internet before the Eternal September.
WTF are you talking about? Trolling was a high art long before Eternal September. I recall seeing some pretty incredible trolling on Usenet long before the AOL masses were unleashed onto the Internet.
Heheheh. Cute. Where did you find that at Bloodguard?
You cannot ever prove that the NSA (or whichever agency) does not snoop
Erm, the reason the NSA is an issue is because it is part of the one of the very few governments on the planet that did NOT snoop on your internet traffic as a matter of course.
In other words, if you are from a non-Western country, it is guaranteed that your packets are being snooped and your traffic analyzed at all times. Even many Western nations do not explicitly guarantee that your packets are not snooped.
Ultimately, nobody should have EVER trusted that their communications were not being snooped regardless of where they are from. People have an unyielding need to snoop on others. Governments are uniquely placed to do such things, but you can bet your ass that private entities are doing what they can to snoop on your packets (and anything else you do!) as surely as governments are.
That, and there are the corruptable binary logs, the solution to which in the bug report is to "just delete them" and the bug has been closed as won't fix. Sorry, but if this is the resposne to journal corruption rather than finding out WHY the journals get corrupted and fixing the fuckign problem, then i do not want that in control of my logfiles.
Log files are unimportant to the people who are writing and advocating for SystemD.
Logs files are criminally important to those who have to report to regulatory agencies and otherwise important to those who manage systems for others (businesses and governments). None of those agencies will accept missing, incomplete, or corrupted log files during an investigation.
The people writing this software need to get serious or get out. Logs are of vital importance.
It seems like I am surrounded by inexperienced children who have no adults to discipline them.
And you come to EXACTLY the wrong conclusion. Here is how it should really go.
Article: Someone is fixing VTs and making them more secure and reliable.
Comments: Fuck yeah! VTs worked but they certainly needed improvement.
Article: SystemD is integrating VTs.
Comments: What the fuck?! I can understand someone wanting to fix VTs but why in God's name are they integrating it into SystemD? It already has 69 fucking subsystems, all of which come crashing down if there is an error in even one. Why would I want my VTs to be integrated into that mess?
You: People are complaining about someone fixing VTs.
Me: You are a fucking troll.
...understand that this has been an important feature that has been needed for a long time in any init system...
Odd. I thought the VTs were an output mechanism for the kernel along with serial ports. VTs are not just a console for when a GUI is not available.
Regardless of any of that, what do VTs have to do with an init system and why are they required to be part of an init system? I see no need for the two to even be slightly related other than an init system using a VT as an output device to let the user know what it is doing. That certainly does not require that the VT code be part of the init system.
God. What is up with some of the people here? Are they (you!) being purposefully ignorant or what?
Again, though, this has nothing to do with the idea of putting kernel VT code in userspace. There are valid arguments against this idea, but I've not read of any on slashdot yet. Just knee-jerk teeth knashing, and, sadly, more inappropriate ad hominom attacks.
NOBODY is arguing about whether or not VTs should be in kernel space or user space. Well, perhaps there is some discussion somewhere about it.
No, the question is whether or not the VTs should be part of SystemD. ... You know what? Fuck it. If there is an error with SystemD, you can't fix it anyways, so why should it matter whether or not a fucking console ever shows up because one of your filesystems was corrupted and SystemD decided to hang forever. We can all just reinstall from an image quickly anyways. We should all stop being attached to such things.
If it were not for Metro and IOS 7 and Gnome 3, I would say SystemD was just an advanced form of trolling the technically literate people... but this stuff is for real and it is serious. It just boggles the mind. Has half of the world just gone off the deep end? WTF?
Huh? It still does not have Emacs.
From a (now) outsider looking in, this whole systemd fiasco looks a lot like Linux finally being dragged into the 21st century through the sheer willpower of one man...
If binary log files and inflexible failure modes are 21st century, I want no part of it. I would rather have simple text log files and the ability to recover from failure when things do not go quite like they should have. Do I want better tools that can interoperate simply and easily? You bet. Is SystemD (now with consoles!) that solution? No.
And then there is the Real World where people fill up their tank, reset their trip meter, and divide the distance traveled since the last time they filled up by the number of liters/gallons inserted into the fuel tank.
Random numbers here: 300 kilometers traveled using 30 liters of fuel gives you 1 liter to travel 10km.
What is easiest? Liters per kilometer or kilometers per liter? Liter per kilometers is easier.
This is not based on whether or not distance or cost is more important.
Of course, this is all ignoring the fact that US is a democracy. You don't need a revolution to change the people in charge, you simply need to express support for someone else, and anonymously at that. So if the rulers approve of bullshit like this, and still get re-elected, then don't blame the Government, blame the citizens.
Shut up. You are blind and ignorant. Hopefully, you are merely naive.
You are either dumb or not thinking.
Did GNOME 1 have haters when it was introduced? How about GNOME 2? What about KDE 1? KDE 2? KDE 3? ALSA?
No. These were all improvements of what came before.
KDE 4? GNOME 3? SystemD? Windows 8? Slashdot BETA?
These were not improvements. These things were/are either grossly unstable, removed functionality, or in the case of SystemD, both. Sure, some things were gained, but compared to what was lost, these were terrible choices.
What was lost when ALSA was introduced? Nothing. Was it perfect at first? No. Was it better than Open Sound System? You bet.
What was lost when GNOME was introduced? Nothing. Was it perfect at first? No. Was it better than TWM? Definitely.
What was lost when SystemD was introduced? Oh my god, I can give you a HUGE list. Parsable log files and flexible failure modes being the ones that irritate me the most but others have compiled more useful lists of what was lost. Was it better than init? In some ways, yes. In other ways, no.
What was lost when Windows 8 was introduced. Well, again, the list is huge but I will just list the obvious for brevity: The start menu. Was it better than Windows 7? Arguably no.
So, you, yes you, are either dumb or playing dumb by claiming that people just hate change. Change is good when it leads to better things. Everyone wants better. The noises you are hearing are about things NOT being better.
They shouldn't. The alternative explainations(sic) as to where that energy is going are far more concerning.
I disagree with your assessment. The most terrifying "natural" thing is the Sun. It is relatively close and unimaginably huge. It has "waves" on its surface that are 17km high and 100,000 km long... and these are just small, regularly occurring ripples. When the Sun gets all uppity, amazingly huge amounts of energy are released. So far, the Earth has been lucky and has not been hit by some of the larger "projectiles" that the Sun shoots out at relativistic velocities. None of this takes into account the potential for even larger bad behavior events like we have seen with other stars such as the variability of the brown dwarfs or stars going nova or supernova.
Why did I write all of that? Because the second most terrifying "natural" thing is the ocean. It is absolutely mind bogglingly huge and it is fluid. A mere drop in comparison to the Sun but the surface area of the ocean is considerably larger than all the land masses combined. It readily absorbs and emits heat. It is everywhere you look. The ocean is large enough to hide Chtulu and Leviathan with plenty of space to spare. The first time I saw the ocean I feared it greatly. I had no idea what large was until I saw it. I was absolutely stunned at the enormity of what I could see and even then, I was seeing just a microscopic portion of it.
When http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2... occurred, I had heard reports of people walking out to look at the sea bed that was revealed. The concept shocked me. I would have been running in terror... it is water. If it pulls back from the shore like that, it WILL be coming back. With a vengeance. Which it did.
The ocean is a huge terrifying thing that moves. Adding heat to it is the scariest thing that could occur on this planet short of the Sun acting differently. The ocean is where we ultimately came from and it is likely where we will eventually die.
In short, I am VERY relieved to hear that the bottom of the ocean is not warming. The eventual release of that energy would be incredibly stunning in its magnitude. The ocean moderates our environment. We are utterly dependent on the "health" of the ocean for our lives, just as surely as we are utterly dependent on the "health" of the sun for our lives.
There's no doubt they're coordinating their attacks on our freedom, but who is driving the campaign and what is their end goal?
I do not know who, but we read about it in Brave New World and 1984. They want power. Absolute, soul crushing, power. The infamous "they" are closer than ever before to getting it... but what then? Absolute power is not enough to satisfy. After a decade or two, what then? There will be incredible death and destruction.
And the cycle will begin again... probably with sticks and stones this time.
Who cares about global warming or vaccine caused autism? The atmosphere is being corrupted and people are dying or being permanently disfigured due to diseases.
I want to breathe fresh air, not air with mercury, coal dust, carbon particles, and various nasty gasses in it. I would rather my children take the risk of being autistic than the certainty of a crippling disease like polio.
Fuck all of the controversy! I want clean air to breathe and a lack of terrible diseases to infect my children.
LOL.
I remember way back in Kindergarten the teacher made fun of the weatherman. His prediction was put on the calendar every day as sunny/raining/etc. The teacher made a red X on every day that the weatherman was wrong. The weatherman was wrong more often than not. There were a LOT of red Xs on the calendar... not that I really understood the calendar that well but red is red.
There has been a LOT of progress made recently. The weather predictions are a lot more accurate nowadays. Almost worrisomely so.
Reagan was a moderate Republican.
Say what?! Reagan was a hardcore far right Republican. What we have now is not even mappable on the sanity chart. This shit is crazy. As in absolutely unbelievable, fiction can't even get this over the top crazy. Forget right and left. The needle has gone entirely off of the scales.
People who go into the military with the idea that they want to meet interesting people AND KILL them usually get weeded out in basic training/boot camp. If not, they get weeded out in AIT (occupational training). People like that simply aren't stable enough to get through training in the modern army.
Nobody else really goes into the military with the notion that they want to go out and kill people.
That is not true. Well, not entirely true even if for the most part it is true.
Ever been near the 18th Airborne? Yeah, those guys are killers. They are almost pure animals. They built a special compound on Camp Buehring (Udairi) for them to transfer into Iraq. That compound had barbed wire leaning in as well as out. Why in? To keep those monsters from escaping and causing trouble for all of the other units heading up to Iraq.
18th Airborne is not entirely unique in this matter either. That is why I say what you say is untrue.
Some Marines join so they can kill... but the Marines have a whole different set of discipline. They never had to be segregated. Neither did the 82nd Airborne.
There are lots of experiences that can be good for you as a person if you have the right personality and mindset. Serving in the military can teach you a lot about discipline, sacrifice, teamwork etc. but I would have been hopeless unsuited for such an experience.
I am the textbook case for someone who should never have joined the military. I did join despite the glaring fact that I am desperately unsuited to do so.
It has benefited me to a much larger extent that I would have ever imagined. No, I could do all the stupid "do this merely because we want to break you" crap. In some ways, that stuff was easy, so it was not discipline or teamwork or any of that stuff that benefited me. No. What the benefit was is the people that I met who opened doors for me later. Well, there were a few other benefits like making E5 in the shortest possible time proving that I had mettle and earning an honorable discharge proving that I can do what is required regardless of adversities.
In summary, any shared difficult experience (college? military?) can lead to incredible possibilities even if you are unsuited for those difficult experiences. The thing that is required is that you do the best that you can. I was once offered a driver position by UPS despite never doing the line work. Why? Because I did the best that I could, no excuses. Even after I turned them down the first time, they called me back again. I felt terrible turning them down the second time they called. An opportunity like that usually only knocks once.
Now that many peripherals hot-plug, that model is obsolete. Many people find it painful to switch to an "everything is dynamic" model, especially since, for many server applications, there is no hot-plugging.
You are normally not a moron, so it pains me to say this: You are being intentionally obtuse.
If systemd ONLY did what you are claiming everyone is so unhappy about, then NOBODY would be unhappy about systemd. Have you not been listening to the expressive and coherent descriptions of why people find systemd so fundamentally objectionable?
A shame. Despite me not liking your position/ownership on patents concerning ragdoll physics, I have always thought you were a reasonable person... but this intentional blindness, this willful ignorance of what makes people reject systemd at such a fundamental level... I just don't know man. I just do not know. I am sad.
I am a bad person. I ran across a bundle of these pics the other day and decided to look at them.
Honestly, there was nothing terribly exciting or shameful about the pics. They were pictures of people doing what people do. A couple of the pics almost rose to the level of porn as did a couple of the .mov files... but meh. Again, why would anyone be shocked that beautiful people have sex and exhibit sexual desires? None of this is scandalous and I see none of the people any differently than I saw them before. I actually forgot most of their names already. I seem to recall... Kirsten Dunst being in about 4 pictures but I think they were just breast shots. Not a huge deal. We have already seen most of her breasts already, just the nipple being missing. Hell, she probably had a topless scene in one of her movies already anyways.
It is shameful that anyone would see the pictures as scandalous. Everyone who considers the pictures to be scandalous are either terrible terrible people or people who are boring victims of society. No, the only scandal here is that someone is breaking in to other peoples' accounts and grabbing personal information. I really should not have viewed the pictures myself. I just wanted to see what all the yelling and screaming was about. The yelling and screaming is about the wrong thing, the pictures, rather than the right thing, the invasion of privacy.