And the thought of having a grand total of one point of failure for all of your data and electronics, including your car and your house? Is this also awesome?
To add to that: What's actually happening is that students return their textbooks to the campus bookstore at the end of the semester because 1) quick pocket cash, and 2) they don't need the book anymore. The bookstore then returns these used texts to the publisher, who then destroys them, because if they didn't put out a new edition every year or two they would go out of business fairly quickly. There are probably other conditions as well, such as if the bookstore doesn't sell so many copies of such-and-such book they'll be charged more for others (though I expect something like this would be presented as, "Sell 50 copies of Dr. Gall's Introduction to Phrenology and you'll get 10% off your next order!")
What the hell does a country's sexual assault rate (for which you've provided no sources) have to do with Socialism?
You're right, of course. I omitted sources as I thought this was common knowledge. I apologize. Will a police report do? https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/... I'll let you connect the Socialism dots yourself; they're all there. And yes, Norway's GDP is high, but its cost of living is even higher: http://www.businessinsider.com... That $14 beer is particularly offensive. Where I live a beer in a tavern or restaurant typically ranges between $2 and $5, less if there's a special going on. Going one step further and checking job listings in both cities, the average salary for my job here is $67k (USD), and in Oslo $69k (USD), sourced from glassdoor dot com. You're free to check the numbers for your own job/city combination, of course. In fact, you probably should, since one data point hardly tells the whole story (though checking a few other job titles, the salaries are close for most positions; the cost of living index for my city is 99.7 according to city-data.com, where the US average is 100).
That article is pretty bizarre, besides the fact that they interviewed all two of the people that left the company after this announcement was made. Don't you think it's a bit weird that an attempt to make white-collar workers happy would provoke such a hateful response, while praise would be heaped on a seafood-restaurant owner doing the exact same thing? And that these two disparate reactions would appear side-by-side in the same article, written by the same person? The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
I'm guessing the pictures painted by the things you read were quite rosy, and didn't include Norway's cost of groceries (have fun driving to Sweden to buy frozen pizza!), or its skyrocketing sexual assault rate. Any country can be considered a failure, depending on how you want to spin the definition of success. In the context of this discussion, which is about a US business owner choosing to pay his employees what a Norwegian government would have forced him to pay them, Norway is indeed a failure, since a business owner's freedom to make his own choices about how he runs his business is fairly important to many people, even when they're getting shafted by said choices. Something about Americans fancying themselves temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
As I understood it the $70k is a minimum, not what everybody is being paid at Gravity. But otherwise, you're right. Look at Norway, for example, which has a lot of Marx-flavored "equality" and nobody really trying to get better or even start a business, because there's almost no incentive to do so, and plenty of incentive to just meander along.
Yet another AC rant that misses the point, but I'll bite, if only for the benefit of the peanut gallery.
The point of this company's $70k minimum salary is an acknowledgement of the fact that every employee is valuable to the company, including the guy who cleans up your shit when you overflow the company toilet. If a position isn't vital to a business's operation, then there's no need for the position to exist. This has nothing to do with being lazy or entitled (nor is this about to become law, so don't soil yourself just yet). It's just a business owner who seems to have no interest in the usual M.O. of keeping as many employees as possible as close to poverty as possible.
One of my senators voted Yea, the other Nay. At least they cancel each other out. This is just one of the many perks of living in one of the most politically deadlocked states in the country.
"Spam" doesn't mean "messages whose contents I don't like". The fact that you refer to a call for civility as "spam" says a lot about you. But then again, you're pretending that Randi Harper isn't a rancid cunt, so that's not too surprising.
You're either an idiot or a liar. I'm guessing both. Harper actually changed her twitter handle to "Kill All Men", and tweeted same multiple times prior to making that account private and switching to primarily using a different one.
Woman says that while enjoyable just maybe there might be some sexism or even misogyny in some games people enjoy
This is a gross misrepresentation of Sarkeesian's ongoing attacks on video games and the people who play them (she seems to especially hate the Japanese for some reason), as well as her motives for engaging in these attacks. I don't remember Jack Thompson, clueless asshole that he was, begging for donations every time someone said something mean to him on the Internet. Remember the "I Hate Jack Thompson" t-shirts? How about the "Beat Up Jack Thompson" Flash game? I'm guessing you don't, even though they existed. Attacking people for a harmless hobby will cause them to answer in kind whether you have a dick or not, and rightfully so. Morality police have no place in a free society.
As for "this describes gamergate perfectly", "GamerGate" was never a group of people, as you seem to believe; it was a hashtag on Twitter dot com. As such, anyone could use it: Gamers, trolls, feminists, racists, Navy SEALS, ISIS, Beliebers, you name it. What's more is that it existed for two months before Sarkeesian stuck her nose in in an obvious bid to be relevant, so your post reads like "wet streets cause rain". Some of the gamers who used the tag in good faith accomplished quite a bit, most notably stronger disclosure rules from the FTC regarding affiliate links in game reviews. Others seemed to be using it to try to get laid, as there was a large number of attractive women using the tag. And, of course, the trolls, Poes, and shitposters that show up whenever anything of the slightest interest happens.
It also had the side effect of compelling washed-up minor celebrities like Wil Wheaton, John Scalzi, and others to accidentally out themselves as extreme left-wing psychopaths. Their insane rantings, which can be summed up as, "All nerds are evil! Except me. Only I know how a lady should be treated, as I am the supreme gentleman", would have been amusing if not for the fact that they seem willing to actually, physically murder people for being mean to their crushes on the Internet. And by "being mean to", I mean "criticizing the asinine ideas of".
If you've never had to clean up after a few hundred shit-tier "programmers" from India, you should count yourself lucky. Strangely, good programmers seem to come from every other part of the world: the US, Mexico, the UK, Norway, Spain, Japan, China, you name it. Hell, I even worked with a guy from Nigeria for about a year (turns out that Nigerians who have moved to the US *really* hate 419 scammers, to the surprise of absolutely no one). Who knows why Indians can't program? Beats me. Maybe look into their school system.
No, it really isn't, and unless you can prove that the team organizers are checking competitors' pants, or that the evil Patriarchy Boogeyman is stopping women from competing, you just come off like a shrill lunatic with a massive chip on her shoulder.
That suggests that selection for the teams is either not based purely on merit, or there is some issue preventing more girls studying mathematics to the highest levels.
Or that, overall, women just aren't as good as men at math. It's a legitimate possibility; that you simply don't like it or feel threatened by it is irrelevant.
Strange comparison. After looking at the list of "candidates" (many of whom look an awful lot like those crisis actors that you see whenever there's a false flag operation), I was thinking this would turn out more like Lord of the Flies, but with more rape and murder (going with the pretend-it's-real angle, anyway).
there's also almost always a premium solution for a problem, which comes with extensive documentation and customer support resources
As was mentioned farther up this thread, those days are rapidly coming to an end. Less and less documentation is being given to users even for commercial, closed-source programs, with the expectation that "the community" will pick up the slack. In such a climate, how does it make sense to spend money on some "premium" solution when the documentation is just as bad as, or far worse than, its FOSS counterpart?
On the other hand, I've noticed a steady decline in documentation for commercial software too.
Many of them seem to be going the route of "community-driven" documentation; i.e., dropping the cost of the manuals (and everything related, such as tech writers, printing, and so on), and shifting the burden of educating new users to more experienced ones. This is more or less how most FOSS projects have been documented for years, though out of necessity rather than a desire to cut yet another corner.
Nobody said only FOSS projects have shitty documentation.
It was implied:
I've been out of computers as a serious home-hobby for many years and in returning I'm aghast at the state of documentation for Open Source projects.
Though it's possible that OP was in prison for 10 years (he doesn't actually say why he was out of home hobby computing), I didn't see any reason to jump to that or some similar conclusion.
No shit, troll.
That word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Calm the fuck down, kid.
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And the thought of having a grand total of one point of failure for all of your data and electronics, including your car and your house? Is this also awesome?
To add to that: What's actually happening is that students return their textbooks to the campus bookstore at the end of the semester because 1) quick pocket cash, and 2) they don't need the book anymore. The bookstore then returns these used texts to the publisher, who then destroys them, because if they didn't put out a new edition every year or two they would go out of business fairly quickly. There are probably other conditions as well, such as if the bookstore doesn't sell so many copies of such-and-such book they'll be charged more for others (though I expect something like this would be presented as, "Sell 50 copies of Dr. Gall's Introduction to Phrenology and you'll get 10% off your next order!")
Wrong on both counts, but thanks for playing.
What the hell does a country's sexual assault rate (for which you've provided no sources) have to do with Socialism?
You're right, of course. I omitted sources as I thought this was common knowledge. I apologize. Will a police report do? https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/... I'll let you connect the Socialism dots yourself; they're all there. And yes, Norway's GDP is high, but its cost of living is even higher: http://www.businessinsider.com... That $14 beer is particularly offensive. Where I live a beer in a tavern or restaurant typically ranges between $2 and $5, less if there's a special going on. Going one step further and checking job listings in both cities, the average salary for my job here is $67k (USD), and in Oslo $69k (USD), sourced from glassdoor dot com. You're free to check the numbers for your own job/city combination, of course. In fact, you probably should, since one data point hardly tells the whole story (though checking a few other job titles, the salaries are close for most positions; the cost of living index for my city is 99.7 according to city-data.com, where the US average is 100).
That article is pretty bizarre, besides the fact that they interviewed all two of the people that left the company after this announcement was made. Don't you think it's a bit weird that an attempt to make white-collar workers happy would provoke such a hateful response, while praise would be heaped on a seafood-restaurant owner doing the exact same thing? And that these two disparate reactions would appear side-by-side in the same article, written by the same person? The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
Ahhhhh, so this is what happens when I try to do math without coffee. My sincerest apologies.
I'm guessing the pictures painted by the things you read were quite rosy, and didn't include Norway's cost of groceries (have fun driving to Sweden to buy frozen pizza!), or its skyrocketing sexual assault rate. Any country can be considered a failure, depending on how you want to spin the definition of success. In the context of this discussion, which is about a US business owner choosing to pay his employees what a Norwegian government would have forced him to pay them, Norway is indeed a failure, since a business owner's freedom to make his own choices about how he runs his business is fairly important to many people, even when they're getting shafted by said choices. Something about Americans fancying themselves temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
45k - 1 car loan = 42k
$3000 a month for an automobile? Not to be rude or anything, but are you out of your fucking mind?
As I understood it the $70k is a minimum, not what everybody is being paid at Gravity. But otherwise, you're right. Look at Norway, for example, which has a lot of Marx-flavored "equality" and nobody really trying to get better or even start a business, because there's almost no incentive to do so, and plenty of incentive to just meander along.
Yet another AC rant that misses the point, but I'll bite, if only for the benefit of the peanut gallery.
The point of this company's $70k minimum salary is an acknowledgement of the fact that every employee is valuable to the company, including the guy who cleans up your shit when you overflow the company toilet. If a position isn't vital to a business's operation, then there's no need for the position to exist. This has nothing to do with being lazy or entitled (nor is this about to become law, so don't soil yourself just yet). It's just a business owner who seems to have no interest in the usual M.O. of keeping as many employees as possible as close to poverty as possible.
One of my senators voted Yea, the other Nay. At least they cancel each other out. This is just one of the many perks of living in one of the most politically deadlocked states in the country.
"Spam" doesn't mean "messages whose contents I don't like". The fact that you refer to a call for civility as "spam" says a lot about you. But then again, you're pretending that Randi Harper isn't a rancid cunt, so that's not too surprising.
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-November/262464.html
Fuck off with your mealymouthed SJW bullshit.
Malicious or stupid? Take your pick.
"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." -some slashdotter, many years ago
Woman says that while enjoyable just maybe there might be some sexism or even misogyny in some games people enjoy
This is a gross misrepresentation of Sarkeesian's ongoing attacks on video games and the people who play them (she seems to especially hate the Japanese for some reason), as well as her motives for engaging in these attacks. I don't remember Jack Thompson, clueless asshole that he was, begging for donations every time someone said something mean to him on the Internet. Remember the "I Hate Jack Thompson" t-shirts? How about the "Beat Up Jack Thompson" Flash game? I'm guessing you don't, even though they existed. Attacking people for a harmless hobby will cause them to answer in kind whether you have a dick or not, and rightfully so. Morality police have no place in a free society.
As for "this describes gamergate perfectly", "GamerGate" was never a group of people, as you seem to believe; it was a hashtag on Twitter dot com. As such, anyone could use it: Gamers, trolls, feminists, racists, Navy SEALS, ISIS, Beliebers, you name it. What's more is that it existed for two months before Sarkeesian stuck her nose in in an obvious bid to be relevant, so your post reads like "wet streets cause rain". Some of the gamers who used the tag in good faith accomplished quite a bit, most notably stronger disclosure rules from the FTC regarding affiliate links in game reviews. Others seemed to be using it to try to get laid, as there was a large number of attractive women using the tag. And, of course, the trolls, Poes, and shitposters that show up whenever anything of the slightest interest happens.
It also had the side effect of compelling washed-up minor celebrities like Wil Wheaton, John Scalzi, and others to accidentally out themselves as extreme left-wing psychopaths. Their insane rantings, which can be summed up as, "All nerds are evil! Except me. Only I know how a lady should be treated, as I am the supreme gentleman", would have been amusing if not for the fact that they seem willing to actually, physically murder people for being mean to their crushes on the Internet. And by "being mean to", I mean "criticizing the asinine ideas of".
If you've never had to clean up after a few hundred shit-tier "programmers" from India, you should count yourself lucky. Strangely, good programmers seem to come from every other part of the world: the US, Mexico, the UK, Norway, Spain, Japan, China, you name it. Hell, I even worked with a guy from Nigeria for about a year (turns out that Nigerians who have moved to the US *really* hate 419 scammers, to the surprise of absolutely no one). Who knows why Indians can't program? Beats me. Maybe look into their school system.
You mean Southeast Asians (China, Japan, etc.). South Asians (India, Bangladesh, etc) are a completely different story.
It's a legitimate question to ask.
No, it really isn't, and unless you can prove that the team organizers are checking competitors' pants, or that the evil Patriarchy Boogeyman is stopping women from competing, you just come off like a shrill lunatic with a massive chip on her shoulder.
That suggests that selection for the teams is either not based purely on merit, or there is some issue preventing more girls studying mathematics to the highest levels.
Or that, overall, women just aren't as good as men at math. It's a legitimate possibility; that you simply don't like it or feel threatened by it is irrelevant.
"Institutionalized sexism?" How paranoid and delusional do you have to be to literally blame the entire world for your own failures and shortcomings?
Surely you're not suggesting anyone here was going to read the article.
Strange comparison. After looking at the list of "candidates" (many of whom look an awful lot like those crisis actors that you see whenever there's a false flag operation), I was thinking this would turn out more like Lord of the Flies, but with more rape and murder (going with the pretend-it's-real angle, anyway).
I didn't realize straw men could father children. Thank you for enlightening us.
there's also almost always a premium solution for a problem, which comes with extensive documentation and customer support resources
As was mentioned farther up this thread, those days are rapidly coming to an end. Less and less documentation is being given to users even for commercial, closed-source programs, with the expectation that "the community" will pick up the slack. In such a climate, how does it make sense to spend money on some "premium" solution when the documentation is just as bad as, or far worse than, its FOSS counterpart?
On the other hand, I've noticed a steady decline in documentation for commercial software too.
Many of them seem to be going the route of "community-driven" documentation; i.e., dropping the cost of the manuals (and everything related, such as tech writers, printing, and so on), and shifting the burden of educating new users to more experienced ones. This is more or less how most FOSS projects have been documented for years, though out of necessity rather than a desire to cut yet another corner.
Nobody said only FOSS projects have shitty documentation.
It was implied:
I've been out of computers as a serious home-hobby for many years and in returning I'm aghast at the state of documentation for Open Source projects.
Though it's possible that OP was in prison for 10 years (he doesn't actually say why he was out of home hobby computing), I didn't see any reason to jump to that or some similar conclusion.
No shit, troll.
That word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Calm the fuck down, kid.