That would also make an excellent sig, IMHO! You have my word that I will not "pirate" it though....Arrgg, mates...we'll let that ship go- too good fer the likes of us!
IMHO, Stallman's stance against DRM may be part strategy and not all ideology. Compromise, politics, contracts, etc., are similar to "haggling" over price in a marketplace- buyer and seller each start at their favored extreme and then negotiate towards a "middle ground" as more acceptable to both instead of just acceptable to one.
Of course, I could be totally off base here, but I don't think the idea/concept has eluded Stallman. Maybe something to think about, maybe not.
"In fact, RMS has always stated that users should be free to do anything with the software, except restrict other users' freedom to do anything with the software. That was the whole point of the restrictions in the GPLv2."
Thank you- I was about to abandon this thread because I was being disheartened by all of the comments that seemed to be based on very little actual thought behind their kneejerk reactions. Your post gave me hope afterall. Well said (not just the quote I used in my reply, but the whole post)- I had to pull that quote out of your post because that seems to be the least understood point. (based on the number of comments similar to the one you replied to)
Again,thanks.......and to some of you out there: finish your coffee and get fully awake and THINKING before abusing your keyboard and our patience.:)
Magnets help! Just swallow it and it collects the hardware before it penetrates intestinal or stomach wall. (Tip of the day: If you have hardware desease and have swallowed the magnet, be VERY wary of laxatives! *ouch!*)
disclaimer: Yes, IAACVT (I Am A Certified Veterinary Technician)
WOOOSHH!! Overhead it goes! Laugh, it was kinda funny...as in joke.
hints: "run", "shoes", "microwave", "fry"
It's okay, we'll wait.
P.S. yes, the microwave would "fry" the chip, but may also damage the shoes- don't know about the second part- too many variables involved (where in shoe was chip, materials of shoe, construction of shoe, etc.)
WTF????
That's no different than a M$ fanboy bragging about how fast MSN Music updated ^^security hole^^^^feature and how slow OSX was updated.
Get real- your comparing an ONLINE MUSIC STORE to an OPERATING SYSTEM.
"and hopefully some metals... so joining the army. god damned robots better not screw me over on the only thing left that seems to be hiring... graduating with an english degree in May. what else can I do?"
Metals? if you go up against combat robots you sure are likely to get some "metals".
And as far as "what else can I do?"- I would suggest you change majors, this one does not seem to be working for you!
Shouldn't government start getting the message soon what it's people REALLY think about this whole "piracy" issue? We are too complacent anymore! We had better wake up collectively and become more pro-active or it will be 1984 sooner than you think!
"Some monkey's pissed because he's not getting revenue from me for running a site I shouldn't need to look at in the first place? Deal."
Word.
To me, it's not much different than hardware/software restrictions on recording broadcast tv, then not being able to "skip" the commercials. The direction it seems to be taking, soon it will be "illegal" to go piss during a commercial, and visiting a website with Adblock will have the "black helicopters" landing on your front lawn.
I guess I'm just too old fashioned and set in my ways to open my arms in welcome to Orwell's version of 1984 (http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/), guess I'll just have to go kicking and screaming. (But go it seems we must!)
That was a very interesting interview, I was appreciative of most of their answers to Rob's questions. In view of the recent WMF vulnerabilities, I did however have a question about the dependancy checking process and software referred to by the team. Who (and how) is the software programmed? I guess what I'm getting at is this: Who or what determines what the software and process involved checks, and how is that related to determining what is dependant on what, and how it fits into the security/vulnerability checking process. I would have thought that this software/process would have caught the WMF problems that have recently surfaced.
By the way, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions!
Well said and thanks for sharing this with us. You are right about this being an issue of trust. With the proliferation of the internet, the amount of information ( and misinformation!) available to the masses is overwhelming. That makes the issue of trust very important. There is already more than enough FUD being blasted out now. As connectivity increases, trust and actual facts will be more desirable than ever, and probably harder to find. By all means, let's at least TRY to help trust, truth, and accuracy become more of a focus, afterall, the most powerful tool/weapon mankind has ever devised is COMMUNICATION! We need to start taking the resonsibility of this most powerful tool far more seriously than we do. Oh well, dream on (me)......
"people should have greater concern for their driving habits and more people should have their liscences revoked for their thoughtless/reckless behaviour"
Ditto here! I've been hit 4 times this past year- 3 of those times by "soccer moms" in their SUV's talking on the phone while driving, the fourth time by someone too impatient with the road construction in town (30 mph spd. lmt.!) to merge with predominate lane (had to get to Wal-Mart quick) and was hit-and-run incident. People nowdays on the road have no concept of common curtesy and respect- anymore it is "hooray for me, and f*sk you!
I have decided to start carrying a rocket launcher when I drive-F*sk it- Darwin's list always needs nominees!
Well said! On another note, Gibson (in TFA) stated many times that he does not know if this is a bug or a feature, he only has looked at this one day, but on the surface it seems suspicious enough to look more like a feeature than a bug, and he also states many times that if it is a feature, who knows what it's purpose is- he admits if it is a feature, it could have a non-sinister original purpose (like several have commented-debugging feature left in inadvertently).
Gibson also asked for coders out there to look into this and offer more insight, meanwhile he is going to keep digging and have an update in about a week, then he would know more.
It just seems not many have RTFA, but then again, this is/. !:)
You obviously did not RTFA or you would know that he isn't sure of himself- he has only worked/looked at this a total of one day and happened to bring it up on the podcast, He has a;lso stated NUMEROUS times that it SEEMS to be a bacvkdoor, but until he has a chance to work at this longer to find out- it appears to him to have no toher function he can see AT THIS TIME. (no, I am not going to link to these statements- RTFA!).
Second, you must not have put any effort into finding his tool- it took me about 30 seconds to find the link to it- since you are so web challenged, here is the tool:(http://www.grc.com/sn/notes-022.htm)
How any of you calling Steve "bombthrower" (and similar) got modded anything other than flamebait or troll is beyond me- obvious from your comments you did not RTFA and the/. modders are not paying attention I guess.
When I googled "stupidity quotes" this came up with quote in question at top of list (http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_stupidity.html)
"'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." and is attributed to Abe Lincoln according to this website.
I was thinking it was either Will Rogers, or Winston Churchill for some reason, so had to check.
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"...stop being sofa king ignorant."
ROFLMAO!!!!
That is positvely PRICELESS!!!
That would also make an excellent sig, IMHO!
You have my word that I will not "pirate" it though....Arrgg, mates...we'll let that ship go- too good fer the likes of us!
w00t!
Well said!
IMHO, Stallman's stance against DRM may be part strategy and not all ideology.
Compromise, politics, contracts, etc., are similar to "haggling" over price in a marketplace- buyer and seller each start at their favored extreme and then negotiate towards a "middle ground" as more acceptable to both instead of just acceptable to one.
Of course, I could be totally off base here, but I don't think the idea/concept has eluded Stallman. Maybe something to think about, maybe not.
"In fact, RMS has always stated that users should be free to do anything with the software, except restrict other users' freedom to do anything with the software. That was the whole point of the restrictions in the GPLv2." Thank you- I was about to abandon this thread because I was being disheartened by all of the comments that seemed to be based on very little actual thought behind their kneejerk reactions. Your post gave me hope afterall. Well said (not just the quote I used in my reply, but the whole post)- I had to pull that quote out of your post because that seems to be the least understood point. (based on the number of comments similar to the one you replied to) Again,thanks.......and to some of you out there: finish your coffee and get fully awake and THINKING before abusing your keyboard and our patience. :)
Okay, so it wasn' that good of a joke. I know what the ACLU is, and no, I do not work for them.
But that would skip the fun of the hack. Hacking projects are not always attempted as a more efficient/practical way of doing something.
Magnets help! Just swallow it and it collects the hardware before it penetrates intestinal or stomach wall. (Tip of the day: If you have hardware desease and have swallowed the magnet, be VERY wary of laxatives! *ouch!*) disclaimer: Yes, IAACVT (I Am A Certified Veterinary Technician)
WOOOSHH!! Overhead it goes! Laugh, it was kinda funny...as in joke.
hints: "run", "shoes", "microwave", "fry"
It's okay, we'll wait.
P.S. yes, the microwave would "fry" the chip, but may also damage the shoes- don't know about the second part- too many variables involved (where in shoe was chip, materials of shoe, construction of shoe, etc.)
WTF???? That's no different than a M$ fanboy bragging about how fast MSN Music updated ^^security hole^^^^feature and how slow OSX was updated. Get real- your comparing an ONLINE MUSIC STORE to an OPERATING SYSTEM.
"and hopefully some metals... so joining the army. god damned robots better not screw me over on the only thing left that seems to be hiring... graduating with an english degree in May. what else can I do?" Metals? if you go up against combat robots you sure are likely to get some "metals". And as far as "what else can I do?"- I would suggest you change majors, this one does not seem to be working for you!
Don't worry, M$ or the **AA will probably try to recruit him!
You forgot: 5.??? 6. profit!
Because YOU people won't leave our network and boxes alone!
No, I don't work for or pay attention to any college sports.
Being landlocked, I doubt W.VA has a pirate problem to speak of.0 31203a.htm)e .htm?site=http://www.iccwbo.org/home/news_archives /2002/stories/piracy%2520report%2520Oct2002.asp)e .htm?site=http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy/wee kly_piracy_report.asp)
Now, here is some info on REAL pirates and piracy:
"Modern Pirates Thrive on Global Trade" (http://globalization.about.com/library/weekly/aa
"Pirate attacks against ships increase, ICC report finds" (http://globalization.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsit
and last but not least:
"Weekly Piracy Report" (http://globalization.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsit
Now, enough FUD about piracy!
Shouldn't government start getting the message soon what it's people REALLY think about this whole "piracy" issue? We are too complacent anymore! We had better wake up collectively and become more pro-active or it will be 1984 sooner than you think!
"Some monkey's pissed because he's not getting revenue from me for running a site I shouldn't need to look at in the first place? Deal."
Word.
To me, it's not much different than hardware/software restrictions on recording broadcast tv, then not being able to "skip" the commercials.
The direction it seems to be taking, soon it will be "illegal" to go piss during a commercial, and visiting a website with Adblock will have the "black helicopters" landing on your front lawn.
I guess I'm just too old fashioned and set in my ways to open my arms in welcome to Orwell's version of 1984 (http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/), guess I'll just have to go kicking and screaming. (But go it seems we must!)
I watched the video of the interview with the "Kernal Team" with Rob Short ( http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=1488 20) when reading about it on /. (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/ 01/03/1944204).
That was a very interesting interview, I was appreciative of most of their answers to Rob's questions.
In view of the recent WMF vulnerabilities, I did however have a question about the dependancy checking process and software referred to by the team. Who (and how) is the software programmed? I guess what I'm getting at is this: Who or what determines what the software and process involved checks, and how is that related to determining what is dependant on what, and how it fits into the security/vulnerability checking process.
I would have thought that this software/process would have caught the WMF problems that have recently surfaced.
By the way, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions!
Well said and thanks for sharing this with us. You are right about this being an issue of trust. With the proliferation of the internet, the amount of information ( and misinformation!) available to the masses is overwhelming. That makes the issue of trust very important. There is already more than enough FUD being blasted out now. As connectivity increases, trust and actual facts will be more desirable than ever, and probably harder to find. By all means, let's at least TRY to help trust, truth, and accuracy become more of a focus, afterall, the most powerful tool/weapon mankind has ever devised is COMMUNICATION! We need to start taking the resonsibility of this most powerful tool far more seriously than we do. Oh well, dream on (me)......
Something tells me you are a complete idiot.
"people should have greater concern for their driving habits and more people should have their liscences revoked for their thoughtless/reckless behaviour" Ditto here! I've been hit 4 times this past year- 3 of those times by "soccer moms" in their SUV's talking on the phone while driving, the fourth time by someone too impatient with the road construction in town (30 mph spd. lmt.!) to merge with predominate lane (had to get to Wal-Mart quick) and was hit-and-run incident. People nowdays on the road have no concept of common curtesy and respect- anymore it is "hooray for me, and f*sk you! I have decided to start carrying a rocket launcher when I drive-F*sk it- Darwin's list always needs nominees!
Nope. Saw that, but also saw where he backtracked from that several times, so went with his most stated opinion, no more, no less.
They obviously have not recieved the new revised 10th edition!
Well said!
/. ! :)
On another note, Gibson (in TFA) stated many times that he does not know if this is a bug or a feature, he only has looked at this one day, but on the surface it seems suspicious enough to look more like a feeature than a bug, and he also states many times that if it is a feature, who knows what it's purpose is- he admits if it is a feature, it could have a non-sinister original purpose (like several have commented-debugging feature left in inadvertently).
Gibson also asked for coders out there to look into this and offer more insight, meanwhile he is going to keep digging and have an update in about a week, then he would know more.
It just seems not many have RTFA, but then again, this is
You obviously did not RTFA or you would know that he isn't sure of himself- he has only worked/looked at this a total of one day and happened to bring it up on the podcast, He has a;lso stated NUMEROUS times that it SEEMS to be a bacvkdoor, but until he has a chance to work at this longer to find out- it appears to him to have no toher function he can see AT THIS TIME. (no, I am not going to link to these statements- RTFA!). Second, you must not have put any effort into finding his tool- it took me about 30 seconds to find the link to it- since you are so web challenged, here is the tool:(http://www.grc.com/sn/notes-022.htm) How any of you calling Steve "bombthrower" (and similar) got modded anything other than flamebait or troll is beyond me- obvious from your comments you did not RTFA and the /. modders are not paying attention I guess.
When I googled "stupidity quotes" this came up with quote in question at top of list (http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_stupidity.html) "'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." and is attributed to Abe Lincoln according to this website. I was thinking it was either Will Rogers, or Winston Churchill for some reason, so had to check.