I believe you can right click the K Menu icon (or equivalent Gnome menu), select properties, and use 'classic menu layout' (or something like that-did this for my cow-orker for the very reason you mentioned) to revert to the menu style he/you prefers.
Worked like a charm.
And yes, I also disliked the change, but had to roll back to 8.04 due to some bizarre glitches with networking/internet access, and some weird stuff happening trying to mount HDD used for storage. I figure I will just go with 9.04 several months after it comes out.
Either that, or you read the post, and missed the whole point.
No, i am not interested in a faulty viewpoint. I read your post...completely.
You are still focusing on the oddball leaf, instead of the tree-forget about the forest!
To address you in a way that will not warp your mind:
1.Whether the relationships should occur is a social (or moral) issue.
2.Whether they should be recognized by the state is a political issue. (artistic license to adding #'s 1. and 2. to your quote just for clarity)
*1. You are beating a dead horse=not productive, and social issues still drive politics. 2. You miss the point that Society drives/forces/enables politics! WTF??!!??
No, I'm not. I suspect that you just took made a kneejerk reaction to the first sentence of my post (the GP) without reading the next sentence (the first two sentences are the same social/political division as in the beginning of this post) or the post it was responding to (which characterized the state recognition issue as social.)
Uhmmm...No. I have the parent, Gparent, the GGParent posts open here while replying:\ 'All your base belong to us.'
*You are still neglecting Social Issues driving Politics, which SI's drive Politics.
Okay, wise guy...I think I just swallowed my false teeth guffawing.
Now, are you gonna take my case against yourself, or what?!?!?
I do admire your ability to separate work from play, but at the same time being able to get your viewpoint across without compromising your clients, cases, or career in the whole process of upholding a cause by effective* means. Kudos, sir!
BTW, thanks for all your contributions here on/., and more importantly for your 'real world' efforts in court.
There is a reason I added you to my friends list...keep up the good fight. (your website is the only one I disable Adblock+, and NoScript extensions in Firefox 100%, as I also donate any income tax refunds to the EFF-I believe in the cause and am not afraid to support it)
*Slow, to be sure, but is not dramatic change being slow a good thing most times? (that can be small consolation to current 'victims', but long-term objectives are a consideration also-tough balancing act sometimes, but achievable if enough interested parties can arrive at a solution-another difficult hurdle)
My PoliSci professor summed up the best: "Politics is the art of the Possible."
*pictures Steven Segal in judicial robes, glaring ominously at RIAA lawyers, who are trembling as steaming wet urine soaks their trouser legs*
Judge: "My Judicial-fu is better than you!" *audio=out of sync dubbing, complete with bad Chinese accent, with much finger pointing and posturing*
RIAA Lawyer: "We're taking our marbles and going home, you bully!" *all throwing briefcases at the bailiffs for a diversion as they make their escape*
*Disclaimer: Yes, I know that Aikido is Japanese, and *-fu is Chinese...I'm just sharing the mental image that popped into my head when I read your comment!:-) (I hold high rank belts in Aikido, Kendo, and Kenjitsu; medium [to low] rank belts in Judo and Jujitsu-I do know the difference {even though I'm only gaijin})
Thanks for the mental video...it was highly entertaining, and I actually giggled out loud!
On a less humorous note, you are entirely correct.
Whether same-sex relationships should occur is a social issue, without being a political issue.
40+ states having laws that specifically forbid sanction of same-sex relationships kind of argues against you.
You are just arguing semantics at this point.
Social issues are what drives politics, then react to politics in a negative feedback role. Social issues are what causes politics to happen in the first place. Politics result from the attempt to resolve social issues between groups/individuals. Think it through...
Think of it like this: Social Issues are like parents, Politics are like the bastard step-children.
1. Print out enough blank pages to form a square on the floor large enough for all of the dancers to gather around. 2. Specific body parts are named, and these are then sequentially put into the ring, taken out of the ring, and finally wiggled around maniacally inside the ring. 3. After this is done one raises one's hands up to the side of the head, wiggles them, and turns around in place until the next sequence begins, with a new named body part.
It's very much like the Hokey Pokey, only with a square!
Disclaimer:#'s 2 and 3 were plagiarized verbatim from the above wiki link.
Thanks for the reply! I'm envious of your bandwidth, but for the most part, I can't complain about mine.
I'm thinking the submitter has something going on with his Windows box to account for the dismal download speeds he reported, and I don't think the 256 MB's of RAM difference is the culprit.
I only ran one instance of the test in each OS, starting with Kubuntu. (had 32 days uptime on Kubuntu when I tested that OS, then rebooted to XP and tested after the HDD LED quit flickering-still in XP)
I didn't see a big enough difference between OS' to investigate further. What diff's came up could be due to too many variables outside of my network and control.
Well, I may be masochistic enough to put an XP partition on my Kubuntu box for Fallout 3, I'm not THAT masochistic!1!
The only thing running on XP (besides the 'trimmed down from default install' services) is AVG AV, and FF 3.0.5. With Kubuntu, it is a bone-stock default install, same version of FF.
I'm assuming you are referencing this article. LOL! Your sig is most appropriate in that case.
P.S. Just for the record, I tried the Bandwidth.com test on a dual-boot PC, and my results were different than the submitter: *P4 socket 478 3.0 GHz, 2 GB PC3200 DDR (2x1GB)RAM, SATA-2 100 GB HDD*
Kubuntu 8.04=5,597 kb/s down, and 516 kb/s up WinXP Pro SP3=6835 kb/s down, and 514 kb/s up.
Can anyone with a *nix/Vista dual-boot check this out? (I know the submitter was using Ubuntu/Vista instead of Kubuntu/Xp-so there may be a difference)
"Oh, and the files in the disk would be made in such a way that I need absolutely no knowledge of computers to be able to copy them to my portable music player. Right?v"
From the article's 'How to get it' FAQ link:"The Windows 7 beta is actually an upgrade, not a full new install. You need to have a machine running Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) to install the beta. So if you're still running Windows XP -- which a lot of people are, what with Vista's problems, real or imagined -- you're up a creek sans the proverbial paddle."
It will also be in an.iso format only for the download(from the same FAQ), so I guess you could hack the files in the image to enable it to be mounted in a vm. I do not have the skills to do so...maybe it's easy, maybe difficult and not worth the effort...I don't know.
*hint* That would work far more often if your/. user name was just 'new here'. Think about it, or not.:-)
*runs off to patent office*
P.S. As my dear departed dad would say, "Smooth move, Ex-Lax"!"
All in fun, pay no attention to me...this is NOT an attack on your post, and my karma can withstand humour impaired mod's...I laugh with you, not at you!-If I had mod points, I would give you '+1 funny' just for your user name in this instance. (as you had planned on happening-well done!)
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I believe you can right click the K Menu icon (or equivalent Gnome menu), select properties, and use 'classic menu layout' (or something like that-did this for my cow-orker for the very reason you mentioned) to revert to the menu style he/you prefers.
Worked like a charm.
And yes, I also disliked the change, but had to roll back to 8.04 due to some bizarre glitches with networking/internet access, and some weird stuff happening trying to mount HDD used for storage. I figure I will just go with 9.04 several months after it comes out.
Either that, or you read the post, and missed the whole point.
No, i am not interested in a faulty viewpoint. I read your post...completely.
You are still focusing on the oddball leaf, instead of the tree-forget about the forest!
To address you in a way that will not warp your mind:
1.Whether the relationships should occur is a social (or moral) issue.
2.Whether they should be recognized by the state is a political issue.
(artistic license to adding #'s 1. and 2. to your quote just for clarity)
*1. You are beating a dead horse=not productive, and social issues still drive politics.
2. You miss the point that Society drives/forces/enables politics! WTF??!!??
No, I'm not. I suspect that you just took made a kneejerk reaction to the first sentence of my post (the GP) without reading the next sentence (the first two sentences are the same social/political division as in the beginning of this post) or the post it was responding to (which characterized the state recognition issue as social.)
Uhmmm...No.
I have the parent, Gparent, the GGParent posts open here while replying:\
'All your base belong to us.'
*You are still neglecting Social Issues driving Politics, which SI's drive Politics.
Okay, wise guy...I think I just swallowed my false teeth guffawing.
Now, are you gonna take my case against yourself, or what?!?!?
I do admire your ability to separate work from play, but at the same time being able to get your viewpoint across without compromising your clients, cases, or career in the whole process of upholding a cause by effective* means. Kudos, sir!
BTW, thanks for all your contributions here on /., and more importantly for your 'real world' efforts in court.
There is a reason I added you to my friends list...keep up the good fight. (your website is the only one I disable Adblock+, and NoScript extensions in Firefox 100%, as I also donate any income tax refunds to the EFF-I believe in the cause and am not afraid to support it)
*Slow, to be sure, but is not dramatic change being slow a good thing most times? (that can be small consolation to current 'victims', but long-term objectives are a consideration also-tough balancing act sometimes, but achievable if enough interested parties can arrive at a solution-another difficult hurdle)
My PoliSci professor summed up the best: "Politics is the art of the Possible."
*pictures Steven Segal in judicial robes, glaring ominously at RIAA lawyers, who are trembling as steaming wet urine soaks their trouser legs*
Judge: "My Judicial-fu is better than you!" *audio=out of sync dubbing, complete with bad Chinese accent, with much finger pointing and posturing*
RIAA Lawyer: "We're taking our marbles and going home, you bully!" *all throwing briefcases at the bailiffs for a diversion as they make their escape*
*Disclaimer: Yes, I know that Aikido is Japanese, and *-fu is Chinese...I'm just sharing the mental image that popped into my head when I read your comment! :-)
(I hold high rank belts in Aikido, Kendo, and Kenjitsu; medium [to low] rank belts in Judo and Jujitsu-I do know the difference {even though I'm only gaijin})
Thanks for the mental video...it was highly entertaining, and I actually giggled out loud!
On a less humorous note, you are entirely correct.
Whether same-sex relationships should occur is a social issue, without being a political issue.
40+ states having laws that specifically forbid sanction of same-sex relationships kind of argues against you.
You are just arguing semantics at this point.
Social issues are what drives politics, then react to politics in a negative feedback role.
Social issues are what causes politics to happen in the first place.
Politics result from the attempt to resolve social issues between groups/individuals.
Think it through...
Think of it like this:
Social Issues are like parents, Politics are like the bastard step-children.
They are linked, driving each other.
Concise, well thought out, simple to understand, truly captures the essence of group behavior.
Very well done, Sir!!
Yours is one of the more insightful comments I've seen on /. in a while.
1. Print out enough blank pages to form a square on the floor large enough for all of the dancers to gather around.
2. Specific body parts are named, and these are then sequentially put into the ring, taken out of the ring, and finally wiggled around maniacally inside the ring.
3. After this is done one raises one's hands up to the side of the head, wiggles them, and turns around in place until the next sequence begins, with a new named body part.
It's very much like the Hokey Pokey, only with a square!
Disclaimer:#'s 2 and 3 were plagiarized verbatim from the above wiki link.
"...and Uranus would have been burning fiercely."
The last time I ate Thai food this very thing happened to me!
It was calculated in Excel, on a Pentium chip?
Thanks for the reply!
I'm envious of your bandwidth, but for the most part, I can't complain about mine.
I'm thinking the submitter has something going on with his Windows box to account for the dismal download speeds he reported, and I don't think the 256 MB's of RAM difference is the culprit.
I only ran one instance of the test in each OS, starting with Kubuntu. (had 32 days uptime on Kubuntu when I tested that OS, then rebooted to XP and tested after the HDD LED quit flickering-still in XP)
I didn't see a big enough difference between OS' to investigate further. What diff's came up could be due to too many variables outside of my network and control.
My mistake!
I meant to link the same one you did instead of the OpenOffice.org story link I actually used.
My apologies for the confusion. :-)
Well, I may be masochistic enough to put an XP partition on my Kubuntu box for Fallout 3, I'm not THAT masochistic!1!
The only thing running on XP (besides the 'trimmed down from default install' services) is AVG AV, and FF 3.0.5.
With Kubuntu, it is a bone-stock default install, same version of FF.
I'm assuming you are referencing this article.
LOL! Your sig is most appropriate in that case.
P.S.
Just for the record, I tried the Bandwidth.com test on a dual-boot PC, and my results were different than the submitter:
*P4 socket 478 3.0 GHz, 2 GB PC3200 DDR (2x1GB)RAM, SATA-2 100 GB HDD*
Kubuntu 8.04=5,597 kb/s down, and 516 kb/s up
WinXP Pro SP3=6835 kb/s down, and 514 kb/s up.
Can anyone with a *nix/Vista dual-boot check this out? (I know the submitter was using Ubuntu/Vista instead of Kubuntu/Xp-so there may be a difference)
Thanks. :-)
It makes since to me, and I find it to be an interesting quote in that context.
"Oh, and the files in the disk would be made in such a way that I need absolutely no knowledge of computers to be able to copy them to my portable music player. Right?v"
Wrong. Get a fscking clue, dumbass.
Is this an issue from your past?
What are you talking about?
"RIAA is the litigious groups of assholes"
Yes...I agree...as for the remainder, WTF?
Really, I don't understand...explain, please?!?
Persons A&B both seem to have symmetrical access...Am I missing something?
(mod's==stay away-I am really wanting to know what's going on here)
Hear! Hear!
BTW, I am curious about your sig....Explain to an idiot?(or not-depends)??
No, you're not the only one. :-)
I had to read it three times before I could parse it correctly.
I blamed it on not enough coffee yet.
"The is the fist time i've been a spelling nazi on..."
Oh, the irony!!!
Perhaps you meant:
'This is the first time I've...'
Or not.
P.S. How did you get "i've" past the spell checker? Firefox flags it for me for having a lower case "i".(using version 3.0.5)
You're SO entitled!
So you say hurray for me, and fsck you!
It's not your fault, it's fault.
*sarcasm*
You support, enable, and contribute to the problem while actively hindering the cure.
Stupid git!
You're SOL on the 'make it easy on me' bit.
From the article's 'How to get it' FAQ link:"The Windows 7 beta is actually an upgrade, not a full new install. You need to have a machine running Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) to install the beta.
So if you're still running Windows XP -- which a lot of people are, what with Vista's problems, real or imagined -- you're up a creek sans the proverbial paddle."
It will also be in an .iso format only for the download(from the same FAQ), so I guess you could hack the files in the image to enable it to be mounted in a vm. I do not have the skills to do so...maybe it's easy, maybe difficult and not worth the effort...I don't know.
Very well done, sir!
Hah! I see what you are trying to do here!
Almost fiendishly clever, you rascal!
*hint* /. user name was just 'new here'. Think about it, or not. :-)
That would work far more often if your
*runs off to patent office*
P.S. As my dear departed dad would say, "Smooth move, Ex-Lax"!"
All in fun, pay no attention to me...this is NOT an attack on your post, and my karma can withstand humour impaired mod's...I laugh with you, not at you!-If I had mod points, I would give you '+1 funny' just for your user name in this instance. (as you had planned on happening-well done!)
Kudos for the Speed Racer reference, perfectly timed and exploited.
What I want to know is:
now that he's in jail, who gets the chimp? (forget the kid and Trixie-they are just annoying)
Don't shoot! I'm only the piano programmer!
Westerns won't be the same...*sigh*