The computer "spies" have actually downloaded detailed diagrams of a MASHUP of: the Wright Brothers plane, a Porsche 911, the winning America's cup sailboat, and the Apollo 14 command module.
I think it would be funnier if their end product became a Winnebago with wings.
Not to downplay this event but I really wonder why we don't hear much about espionage from western countries ? Are they better at it (rather than using malware or commonly avaliable tools) ? I am sure the Chinese etc have equally vulnerable systems.
Why are these sensitive systems connected to the public internet. Either directly or indirectly, whose bright idea was it? If you need a computer in the lab connected to the internet, fine, just keep the infrastructure seperate.
You see, they weren't actually. They were on a private network but they were able to siphon off data by hanging a bucket off of the network cable and cutting a hole in it. The bits fell into the bucket, and the rest is history...
What kind of connection do you need to have to get away with several terabytes of data before someone notices? Users on my network get pissy when someone downloads a few dozen megs.
Probably because they aren't on some residential asynchronous connection. I imagine them to be on at least something near a SONET connection.
My Karma is already excellent, I'm not afraid to burn it just to make a point as well. I was simply taking a shot at Federal Government and making a point they (as in all of the three-letter-agencies) have done shady business in the past and just because they were court-approved in their dealings for THIS situation, what makes you think they've done it for every other?
And to any response saying "But they are only providing the links". Give me a fucking break. You fully well know what they are trying to accomplish with their site. Don't pretend like its something its not. It is for encouraging piracy plain and simple.
Mod parent flamebait. You've clearly given in to the advertisements you see when you pop in a DVD saying "You wouldn't steal a car would you!?"
Try doing a websearch for a torrent. Try doing a websearch for a crack. Try doing a websearch for a way to commit murder. By your train of thought, that means that "Google fully knows what people are trying to accomplish with their site," therefore they should be called in on charges any time someone uses their site to assist in committing a crime.
You really want to subsidize the recording and movie industries with your money?
No, we want to help these guys get the fine paid off. You do realize that not paying for "damages" is terms for being put back into prison, right? The property they "stole" was imaginary, but the money they have to pay has to be real.
It depends on what they use. If they cheap out, it could be less than 10 years. If they go with the good stuff, 25 to 30 years. Here's a list of the solar cell types.
Photovoltaic systems are generally expensive overall. Usually when they choose where it goes it's been because they did extensive research and simulations to decide on which location to build it, which direction the panels will face, whether the climate conditions will cause problems, etc. If they chose to put it in one centralized location, it's because they did the fucking math and it will pay off.
Disclaimer: My cousin sells photovoltaic systems for a living, I've learned a lot from him while assisting.
What a bizarre comparision. As much as you may hate him because of your personal issues, Steve Ballmer is one of the richest guys on the planet, therefore by most definitions is pretty successful. Jack Thompson is just a criminal who's not quite been caught yet.
I'm sure he spends all his time worying about what slashdot thinks about him (um, not). Gimme a break.
You'd be surprised. Often people who are such narcissists do care what the public thinks of them. He may have all of the bible thumpers rallying behind him, but the second that someone does say something poor about him or he doesn't get his way he does seem to react with malice.
He also sent a letter to Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick's attorney, addressed to Zelnick's mother, in which Thompson accused her son of "doing everything he possibly can to sell as many copies of GTA: IV to teen boys in the United States, a country in which your son claims you raised him to be a 'a Boy Scout'.... More like the Hitler Youth, I would say."
This is just more proof that Jack Thompson, much like Steve Balmer, was put on this earth to be an infinite source of entertainment. As long as people like Jack try to attack violent video games and remove them from the shelves, they will never succeed. His tactics of idiocy and harassment don't seem to work.
I wonder if anybody has ever pointed him to/. and everybody who hates him...
Slashdot Mirror
$0.10/gb * 500 GB = $50. I can buy a 1 TB hard drive for around $80. Why would I use this stuff?
Because it's holographic!
I dont know why they didnt liked my confiker worm :(
Hah! I knew you would show yourself one day! Now to cash in on that $250,000 prize...
The computer "spies" have actually downloaded detailed diagrams of a MASHUP of: the Wright Brothers plane, a Porsche 911, the winning America's cup sailboat, and the Apollo 14 command module.
I think it would be funnier if their end product became a Winnebago with wings.
No, it's a series of tubes that can be siphoned off into a bucket. Look, kid, you're asking questions that are way above your head here...
Not to downplay this event but I really wonder why we don't hear much about espionage from western countries ? Are they better at it (rather than using malware or commonly avaliable tools) ? I am sure the Chinese etc have equally vulnerable systems.
They're the only ones who get caught.
Why are these sensitive systems connected to the public internet. Either directly or indirectly, whose bright idea was it? If you need a computer in the lab connected to the internet, fine, just keep the infrastructure seperate.
You see, they weren't actually. They were on a private network but they were able to siphon off data by hanging a bucket off of the network cable and cutting a hole in it. The bits fell into the bucket, and the rest is history...
What kind of connection do you need to have to get away with several terabytes of data before someone notices? Users on my network get pissy when someone downloads a few dozen megs.
Probably because they aren't on some residential asynchronous connection. I imagine them to be on at least something near a SONET connection.
My Karma is already excellent, I'm not afraid to burn it just to make a point as well. I was simply taking a shot at Federal Government and making a point they (as in all of the three-letter-agencies) have done shady business in the past and just because they were court-approved in their dealings for THIS situation, what makes you think they've done it for every other?
It's worth noting that in order to use CIPAV, the FBI has to get court approval after explaining how the software can help stop a crime.
Like that stopped them from wiretapping without a warrant.
Pretty much. I can't really disagree with that. Reading a wall of text is a pain in the ass and I lost my place three times.
Oh well, mod me down.
Shit, I'm bad at proofreading. Oh well, I have karma to burn.
"I don't want to read a wall of text so I'm assuming it's a troll."
- Metamoderators
Buy the guy who made that decision a beer. Kudos, Bahnhof.
And to any response saying "But they are only providing the links". Give me a fucking break. You fully well know what they are trying to accomplish with their site. Don't pretend like its something its not. It is for encouraging piracy plain and simple.
Mod parent flamebait. You've clearly given in to the advertisements you see when you pop in a DVD saying "You wouldn't steal a car would you!?"
Try doing a websearch for a torrent. Try doing a websearch for a crack. Try doing a websearch for a way to commit murder. By your train of thought, that means that "Google fully knows what people are trying to accomplish with their site," therefore they should be called in on charges any time someone uses their site to assist in committing a crime.
Also, fuck you. I have Karma to burn.
2- Where can we donate to help pay the fine?
You really want to subsidize the recording and movie industries with your money?
No, we want to help these guys get the fine paid off. You do realize that not paying for "damages" is terms for being put back into prison, right? The property they "stole" was imaginary, but the money they have to pay has to be real.
How long is the lifetime of a plant like this
It depends on what they use. If they cheap out, it could be less than 10 years. If they go with the good stuff, 25 to 30 years. Here's a list of the solar cell types.
You sure are shitty grammer police!
Fixed that for you.
Does it have dime-a-dozen henchmen that attempt to stop you as you stop by to service your colo box?
Photovoltaic systems are generally expensive overall. Usually when they choose where it goes it's been because they did extensive research and simulations to decide on which location to build it, which direction the panels will face, whether the climate conditions will cause problems, etc. If they chose to put it in one centralized location, it's because they did the fucking math and it will pay off.
Disclaimer: My cousin sells photovoltaic systems for a living, I've learned a lot from him while assisting.
What a bizarre comparision. As much as you may hate him because of your personal issues, Steve Ballmer is one of the richest guys on the planet, therefore by most definitions is pretty successful. Jack Thompson is just a criminal who's not quite been caught yet.
I compared them in a sense of their antics and how hilarious they are. Anything from Jack Thompson asking a judge to declare the Florida Bar unconstitutional to Steve Ballmer throwing a chair and declaring he's going to "Fucking kill google."
I'm sure he spends all his time worying about what slashdot thinks about him (um, not). Gimme a break.
You'd be surprised. Often people who are such narcissists do care what the public thinks of them. He may have all of the bible thumpers rallying behind him, but the second that someone does say something poor about him or he doesn't get his way he does seem to react with malice.
He also sent a letter to Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick's attorney, addressed to Zelnick's mother, in which Thompson accused her son of "doing everything he possibly can to sell as many copies of GTA: IV to teen boys in the United States, a country in which your son claims you raised him to be a 'a Boy Scout'. ... More like the Hitler Youth, I would say."
This is just more proof that Jack Thompson, much like Steve Balmer, was put on this earth to be an infinite source of entertainment. As long as people like Jack try to attack violent video games and remove them from the shelves, they will never succeed. His tactics of idiocy and harassment don't seem to work.
I wonder if anybody has ever pointed him to /. and everybody who hates him...
I have no friends:
:(
At least he didn't have his desktop background as the same fucking poster that he had hanging on his wall.
Stop using monospace for your posts.