While, I haven't RTFA yet, that won't stop me from offering my opinion. Which is that art and music are entirely different from code. I think his point about graphics and music and such is so that someone won't steal an entire game and rename some of the characters so they can pretend it's theirs.
It's kind of like, if I made a movie. I wouldn't mind you using all my techniques for special effects, (or CGI as it's called today) and filming, etc. But you'd be a big douchebag if you stole my script and just "expanded" on it to make your own movie.
Dipshit, would you just shut the fuck up? Not everyone has the same opinion as you. To them they are not doing anything "wrong." Okay? What the fuck is wrong with you? How have you not yet killed yourself by trying to drink hot coffee while driving or something? Jesus Christ.
What the fuck? When you hear a song on the radio are you stealing it because the artist lost the potential profit? What's the difference between that and downloading it? That you can hear it whenever you want when it's a file on your computer? So what? What if I hear the song on the radio so many times that I memorize it? I can hear the song whenever I want and I didn't pay a cent, I must be a theif! What about if I learn to play it on my own instruments? I'm such a bastard! How dare I enjoy their song for free!
Fuck off. Go take this "what you're doing is wrong" bullshit and cram it. Here's a bombshell for you: I don't care if what I'm doing is "wrong" or not. As far as I'm concerned, if anybody doesn't want me to download their music I'm doing it out of spite. That is, I don't enjoy music to be the artist's friend, so you can take this whole issue of what's moral or not and masturbate with it.
Why don't you join the police force and fight the good fight against all us heinous criminals? I'm sure that'd give you a hardon, you self-righteous asshole.
As an American IN Iraq at the moment, I wanna tell the grandparent to fuck off as well.
No buisness in? As an American I personally support this war. Even without the WMD's Saddam was a sadistic fuck that deserves what He gets. The torture and pain He inflicted on His people was attrocious and anyone who says He does't deserve it is fucking stupid or evil.
America was founded on freedom and equality for ALL. If we stand by while someone in another country gets the treatment that Iraq went thru then we are no better than those in power like Saddam.
God Bless America and Fuck Anyone who thinks differently. Not a perfect country (lawyers are like cockroaches... see one and your already fucked), but atleast we have the balls to stick up for someone who can't defent themselves AND fuck up anyone who messes with us. Bring it on.
Cpl Werner - USMC"
Way to represent the US, asshole. "Fuck with us and you're dead!" Go masturbate over a corpse you macho jackass. You remind me of the assholes at my school who try to start fights because they think it makes them cool shit. Shit, this was going to be a one liner, but I really fucking hate you. I mean, I don't give a shit about Iraq and Saddam and the war, but you're exactly what's wrong with America. You're the reason people say things like "[they] want to see 250 Americans in Iraq die." Don't you realize that? If that's what America is about then Fuck America.
P.S.: Why the fuck do you capitalize all your personal pronouns? Is he Saddam Hussein or God?
What the fuck? What does that have to do with anything? If you were in a room full of 250 Saddam loyalists with machine guns what the fuck would you say? Some people just floor me sometimes.
I'm not making a statement about the war or any of that, but you're a goddamn idiot.
* If breaking the law helps me get free stuff (piracy) or hurts Microsoft somehow then it is not only OK, but moral.
* If breaking the law might cause me some distress (stealing my logo, sending me spam) then that is evil and bad.
Oh ho! I agree! The law is the ultimate basis for morality! I also enjoy evening programming on the Fox station and I use AOL.
"The fan's "right" to have steroid-free MLB" I see! Any time he denies someone a right you just turn it around so it looks like a right. I've got some more good ones...
1) The Christian's right to have no other religions in their country
2) The white man's right to sieze any land currently belonging to the indigenous people (oops, that's already been done lol)
3) The CIA's right to ethnically profile people
4) The Bush Administration's right to spread disinformation in speeches.
This is a fun game.
...but there's no such thing as full copy-protection without compromising compatibility. As long as it plays in my computer I can make a copy of it. Most multi-track editors like (I believe) Audacity are capable of recording whatever noise is being made on your computer. Not that hard to make a copy of anything, really. Hell, as long as it plays out loud, ever I can make a copy of it. All I need is a CD player, a condenser mic and the right software.
Heh, you're probably right. I mean, I'm not saying this wouldn't be a problem for well... most of the internet, but then again, this is no different than a lot of things that can fsck you over on the internet. I mean, some people don't even need to check the adress bar. I saw some lady on a Cybercrime episode (Remember Cybercrime? God bless Paul Allen) who got scammed out of her credit card number by a fake AOL page. That was hosted on geocities. GEOCITIES.
If I started worrying everytime a stupid person needed help to keep themselves out of trouble, I'd be goddamn Woody Allen.
Yes, it's startling how easy I could be tricked if I went to a strange website, clicked on a link labeled "javascirpt:start()" on the task bar, then waited for my pop-up blocker to start counting upwards frantically for about 5 minutes until a new window opened up with a spoofed adress bar, and I didn't notice that all the other links on that page are hosted off of the site that's in the adress bar. It's the perfect crime if you're a goddamn idiot.
In the 1500's scientists said the world was flat. Funny, because about 2500 years before that scientists in Greece also figured out the world was round. In fact, I recall the Church saying that the Earth was flat more than anything else, sure you're not thinking of them?
Uh, also -- Has anybody else noticed that this thing looks like a clunky piece of shit? It looks like a Game Gear on steroids. It looks like it could crush a chicken if you dropped it on one.
If I can't laugh at myself, that doesn't give you some holy-right-from-on-high to humiliate me mercilessly until I can.
Well I don't know about any "holy-right" but I have a "constitutional right" that says I can make fun of whoever I want, and the last time I checked, the laws of man are higher than the laws of God*. As far as I'm concerned, that kid shouldn't have been doing it in public (it was at his school, right?) if he didn't want others to find out. I don't get why people can say things like "it isn't anyones decision to make" without laughing at yourself. Irony! Lol! As far as I'm concerned, it's not his decision to tell me what I can or cannot laugh at, regardless of what he wants.
I'M NOT ARGUING THAT ALL MUSIC SHOULD BE FREE, YOU GODDAMN IDIOTS. ALL I SAID WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO WINE ABOUT LOSING MONEY ARE EXAGGERATING. Please listen to what I say before you try to tell me I'm wrong.
Let's use some of that logic back on you: so you're giving your stuff away for free. Therefore, you aren't making any money off of it. So you shouldn't have any problem if I steal your stuff (oh wait, it's not theft since you aren't charging for it anyway), slap it on a CD, sell it and make some bucks for myself. You're not losing any money, because you weren't getting paid for it in the first place.
No, you goddamn idiot. I would've had to say "I think filesharing should be legal because they're not losing money" which IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID. So don't try and "use my logic back on me" when you don't fucking know what it is. I said that they're exaggerating. I said that they're not going to starve because of filesharing. THAT'S ALL I SAID. I said absolutely nothing about why it should be legal, or "okay."
No, can't say I've heard of him. That's great he wants to spend lots of money and give his stuff away for free. Goody for him and you. You apparently have lots and lots of free time on your hands and money to waste however you want. And that's cool, that's your right. Hey, if you wanna shoot me a couple G's, I won't stop you since you're such a giver. Not everyone can afford (time-wise or financially) their livelihoods AND to throw tons of money at a habit they enjoy.
What are you talking about? I'm not Trevor Wilson. The only reason I brought this up was because someone accused me of being a hypocrite. I was merely pointing out that not everyone is that obsessed with making money.
because you want to give away your time and work for free doesn't mean that everyone else wants to.
That's great! That's why I'm not advocating that filesharing be legal! I never said anybody didn't have the right to sell their music, did I? (I'm about to start counting how many times I've explained this) All I said was that they're not going to go out of business because of filesharing. IE, they don't "need protection."
And it's not your place to say they are wrong for wanting to get something for their effort.
The last time I checked I was allowed to have an opinion. It may not be my place to say they're wrong, just it's not your place to say I'm wrong, but we're all in the right place to say what we think, and I think that selling music is a stupid, and greedy thing to do. However I DO NOT THINK that the government should criminalize selling music. Is that a really hard concept for you?
All arguments I've heard for people who are advocates for "free music" boil down to the same thing they accuse others of: greedy. We want something for free and we don't care who we don't have to pay to get it.
First of all, I'm never going to advocate free music at the government level, but it's my personal belief that music shouldn't be sold. It doesn't have anything to do with me "not having to pay for it," so fuck off. I mean, I don't think Britney Spears works particularly hard to make her music, considering she lip-syncs live, can record it in as many takes as she wants, has a staff of professionals fix all the equipment and mixing for her, and has someone else write it for her. I think she's a despicable piece of shit, because she makes millions of dollars doing half the work I do during a nap. But sure, it's her right to be a no-talent leach, and God forbid she lose any money, she may have to sell one of those houses she has that costs more than what I'll make in my life time. It's a bit hard for me to get sympathetic over somebody who's life has basically been one big bicycle ride. I don't have to "justify" it. I don't care about justification. I don't like Britney Spears and if I want to steal her music, I will until I get caught.
If your posts haven't been an underlying attempt at justification for people downloading music they should otherwise be paying for
Or more likely, I would say (being in high school right now) the emphasis seems to be on things like homework, where the teachers don't even grade for accuracy. Our biology teacher makes us fill out pages of a workbook every night. 1 out of 5 kids doesn't do it at all, 1 actually does it and then lets 2 friends copy, and then 1 writes down random bullshit. And then when the teacher starts lecturing they have their own conversations and throw things in her fish tank. The emphasis isn't necessarily on the test at the end of the course, but rather getting kids to barely pass through whatever mindless bookwork or projects they can come up with. Most kids have no real understanding of what's being taught but somehow seem to just barely get by because of copying homework and projects and guessing on tests.
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While, I haven't RTFA yet, that won't stop me from offering my opinion. Which is that art and music are entirely different from code. I think his point about graphics and music and such is so that someone won't steal an entire game and rename some of the characters so they can pretend it's theirs.
It's kind of like, if I made a movie. I wouldn't mind you using all my techniques for special effects, (or CGI as it's called today) and filming, etc. But you'd be a big douchebag if you stole my script and just "expanded" on it to make your own movie.
Free games? Where can I buy them?!
Dipshit, would you just shut the fuck up? Not everyone has the same opinion as you. To them they are not doing anything "wrong." Okay? What the fuck is wrong with you? How have you not yet killed yourself by trying to drink hot coffee while driving or something? Jesus Christ.
When the fuck was electricity "invented"?
What the fuck? When you hear a song on the radio are you stealing it because the artist lost the potential profit? What's the difference between that and downloading it? That you can hear it whenever you want when it's a file on your computer? So what? What if I hear the song on the radio so many times that I memorize it? I can hear the song whenever I want and I didn't pay a cent, I must be a theif! What about if I learn to play it on my own instruments? I'm such a bastard! How dare I enjoy their song for free!
Fuck off. Go take this "what you're doing is wrong" bullshit and cram it. Here's a bombshell for you: I don't care if what I'm doing is "wrong" or not. As far as I'm concerned, if anybody doesn't want me to download their music I'm doing it out of spite. That is, I don't enjoy music to be the artist's friend, so you can take this whole issue of what's moral or not and masturbate with it.
Why don't you join the police force and fight the good fight against all us heinous criminals? I'm sure that'd give you a hardon, you self-righteous asshole.
But leave U2's Verigo[sic] alone.
No problem here.
Hitler is not a TV show! How can they be compared?! What is this foul device from Hell you call an analogy?! I don't understand it!
Shut the fuck up.
Kudos to Slashdot for filtering out my post because "all caps is like yelling!" Sometimes it's also satire! Thanks, assholes.
GODDAMN FUCKING ITALICS TAG
As an American IN Iraq at the moment, I wanna tell the grandparent to fuck off as well.
No buisness in? As an American I personally support this war. Even without the WMD's Saddam was a sadistic fuck that deserves what He gets. The torture and pain He inflicted on His people was attrocious and anyone who says He does't deserve it is fucking stupid or evil.
America was founded on freedom and equality for ALL. If we stand by while someone in another country gets the treatment that Iraq went thru then we are no better than those in power like Saddam.
God Bless America and Fuck Anyone who thinks differently. Not a perfect country (lawyers are like cockroaches... see one and your already fucked), but atleast we have the balls to stick up for someone who can't defent themselves AND fuck up anyone who messes with us. Bring it on.
Cpl Werner - USMC"
Way to represent the US, asshole. "Fuck with us and you're dead!" Go masturbate over a corpse you macho jackass. You remind me of the assholes at my school who try to start fights because they think it makes them cool shit. Shit, this was going to be a one liner, but I really fucking hate you. I mean, I don't give a shit about Iraq and Saddam and the war, but you're exactly what's wrong with America. You're the reason people say things like "[they] want to see 250 Americans in Iraq die." Don't you realize that? If that's what America is about then Fuck America.
P.S.: Why the fuck do you capitalize all your personal pronouns? Is he Saddam Hussein or God?
What the fuck? What does that have to do with anything? If you were in a room full of 250 Saddam loyalists with machine guns what the fuck would you say? Some people just floor me sometimes.
I'm not making a statement about the war or any of that, but you're a goddamn idiot.
* If breaking the law helps me get free stuff (piracy) or hurts Microsoft somehow then it is not only OK, but moral.
* If breaking the law might cause me some distress (stealing my logo, sending me spam) then that is evil and bad.
Oh ho! I agree! The law is the ultimate basis for morality! I also enjoy evening programming on the Fox station and I use AOL.
"The fan's "right" to have steroid-free MLB" I see! Any time he denies someone a right you just turn it around so it looks like a right. I've got some more good ones...
1) The Christian's right to have no other religions in their country
2) The white man's right to sieze any land currently belonging to the indigenous people (oops, that's already been done lol)
3) The CIA's right to ethnically profile people
4) The Bush Administration's right to spread disinformation in speeches.
This is a fun game.
...but there's no such thing as full copy-protection without compromising compatibility. As long as it plays in my computer I can make a copy of it. Most multi-track editors like (I believe) Audacity are capable of recording whatever noise is being made on your computer. Not that hard to make a copy of anything, really. Hell, as long as it plays out loud, ever I can make a copy of it. All I need is a CD player, a condenser mic and the right software.
Heh, you're probably right. I mean, I'm not saying this wouldn't be a problem for well... most of the internet, but then again, this is no different than a lot of things that can fsck you over on the internet. I mean, some people don't even need to check the adress bar. I saw some lady on a Cybercrime episode (Remember Cybercrime? God bless Paul Allen) who got scammed out of her credit card number by a fake AOL page. That was hosted on geocities. GEOCITIES.
If I started worrying everytime a stupid person needed help to keep themselves out of trouble, I'd be goddamn Woody Allen.
Oh, really! Good thing I'm not everybody then!
Yes, it's startling how easy I could be tricked if I went to a strange website, clicked on a link labeled "javascirpt:start()" on the task bar, then waited for my pop-up blocker to start counting upwards frantically for about 5 minutes until a new window opened up with a spoofed adress bar, and I didn't notice that all the other links on that page are hosted off of the site that's in the adress bar. It's the perfect crime if you're a goddamn idiot.
In the 1500's scientists said the world was flat. Funny, because about 2500 years before that scientists in Greece also figured out the world was round. In fact, I recall the Church saying that the Earth was flat more than anything else, sure you're not thinking of them?
Aha, ah, oh! I just can't stop laughing!
But seriously, if you're going to whore out some comic strip, why not whore out one that's funny?
Because if you don't like fat women you're a sick fuck!
Uh, also -- Has anybody else noticed that this thing looks like a clunky piece of shit? It looks like a Game Gear on steroids. It looks like it could crush a chicken if you dropped it on one.
Anybody else got some?
Well I don't know about any "holy-right" but I have a "constitutional right" that says I can make fun of whoever I want, and the last time I checked, the laws of man are higher than the laws of God*. As far as I'm concerned, that kid shouldn't have been doing it in public (it was at his school, right?) if he didn't want others to find out. I don't get why people can say things like "it isn't anyones decision to make" without laughing at yourself. Irony! Lol! As far as I'm concerned, it's not his decision to tell me what I can or cannot laugh at, regardless of what he wants.
*This was a joke, please don't correct me.
Uh, I didn't really have a point, but you seem like you need to get some things off your chest, so I won't stop you.
I'M NOT ARGUING THAT ALL MUSIC SHOULD BE FREE, YOU GODDAMN IDIOTS. ALL I SAID WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO WINE ABOUT LOSING MONEY ARE EXAGGERATING. Please listen to what I say before you try to tell me I'm wrong.
Let's use some of that logic back on you: so you're giving your stuff away for free. Therefore, you aren't making any money off of it. So you shouldn't have any problem if I steal your stuff (oh wait, it's not theft since you aren't charging for it anyway), slap it on a CD, sell it and make some bucks for myself. You're not losing any money, because you weren't getting paid for it in the first place.
No, you goddamn idiot. I would've had to say "I think filesharing should be legal because they're not losing money" which IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID. So don't try and "use my logic back on me" when you don't fucking know what it is. I said that they're exaggerating. I said that they're not going to starve because of filesharing. THAT'S ALL I SAID. I said absolutely nothing about why it should be legal, or "okay."
No, can't say I've heard of him. That's great he wants to spend lots of money and give his stuff away for free. Goody for him and you. You apparently have lots and lots of free time on your hands and money to waste however you want. And that's cool, that's your right. Hey, if you wanna shoot me a couple G's, I won't stop you since you're such a giver. Not everyone can afford (time-wise or financially) their livelihoods AND to throw tons of money at a habit they enjoy.
What are you talking about? I'm not Trevor Wilson. The only reason I brought this up was because someone accused me of being a hypocrite. I was merely pointing out that not everyone is that obsessed with making money.
because you want to give away your time and work for free doesn't mean that everyone else wants to.
That's great! That's why I'm not advocating that filesharing be legal! I never said anybody didn't have the right to sell their music, did I? (I'm about to start counting how many times I've explained this) All I said was that they're not going to go out of business because of filesharing. IE, they don't "need protection."
And it's not your place to say they are wrong for wanting to get something for their effort.
The last time I checked I was allowed to have an opinion. It may not be my place to say they're wrong, just it's not your place to say I'm wrong, but we're all in the right place to say what we think, and I think that selling music is a stupid, and greedy thing to do. However I DO NOT THINK that the government should criminalize selling music. Is that a really hard concept for you?
All arguments I've heard for people who are advocates for "free music" boil down to the same thing they accuse others of: greedy. We want something for free and we don't care who we don't have to pay to get it.
First of all, I'm never going to advocate free music at the government level, but it's my personal belief that music shouldn't be sold. It doesn't have anything to do with me "not having to pay for it," so fuck off. I mean, I don't think Britney Spears works particularly hard to make her music, considering she lip-syncs live, can record it in as many takes as she wants, has a staff of professionals fix all the equipment and mixing for her, and has someone else write it for her. I think she's a despicable piece of shit, because she makes millions of dollars doing half the work I do during a nap. But sure, it's her right to be a no-talent leach, and God forbid she lose any money, she may have to sell one of those houses she has that costs more than what I'll make in my life time. It's a bit hard for me to get sympathetic over somebody who's life has basically been one big bicycle ride. I don't have to "justify" it. I don't care about justification. I don't like Britney Spears and if I want to steal her music, I will until I get caught.
If your posts haven't been an underlying attempt at justification for people downloading music they should otherwise be paying for
...how certain terminology sounds really odd outside of the proper context?
"Split infinitives"
"Dangling Participles"
Or more likely, I would say (being in high school right now) the emphasis seems to be on things like homework, where the teachers don't even grade for accuracy. Our biology teacher makes us fill out pages of a workbook every night. 1 out of 5 kids doesn't do it at all, 1 actually does it and then lets 2 friends copy, and then 1 writes down random bullshit. And then when the teacher starts lecturing they have their own conversations and throw things in her fish tank. The emphasis isn't necessarily on the test at the end of the course, but rather getting kids to barely pass through whatever mindless bookwork or projects they can come up with. Most kids have no real understanding of what's being taught but somehow seem to just barely get by because of copying homework and projects and guessing on tests.