There are good reasons to move to IPv6, including security, multicasting, simplified header structures, and better routing to name a few.
And the number one reason to move to IPv6 is so we can stop having so many stories about it here! Please, for the love of all that is good, we must adopt IPv6 before slashdot is buried beneath a tsunami of IPv6 stories.
Read this thread: thread over at Anandtech. The problem reports start on the 2nd page. You could try disassembling your USB enclosure to check the chipset temperature. If it is really hot, try cooling it and seeing if it fixes the problem. If so, bad equipment.
If you want to see software version upgrades, you should probably use testing.
This is a very good point and actually hits the root of my annoyance with Debian. I believe that there are simply too many packages in the Debian system. To herd all of these packages into a release is a colossal undertaking. I strongly suspect it is one of the major causes of slow releases no matter how much that is denied.
FreeBSD is different because software outside of the core (the kernel and the stuff in CVS) is not as strongly tied to the release because of the ports tree. While packages of software are released with the distribution, the ports tree makes it possible to seperate the management of the operating system from the management of the other non-OS software--something I happen to prefer.
I have had problems with the ports tree and with other things in the FreeBSD operating system but over time my experience has been that, for the roles I use FreeBSD in (server), I have much fewer problems than with some of the linux servers I've dealt with. This ease of use is essential when physical access to some servers is 3+ hours away (6+ hours round trip).
Have you tried it, or are you making an assumtion? Because I used to think the same way, until I installed it.
Yes, I used Debian stable/testing/unstable for more than 3 years on my personal laptop and at various times on non-essential servers. I no longer use Debian but I would not be opposed to trying it again later on down the road. I understand what the Debian group is trying to accomplish but I don't value the end result.
My experience with problems seems to differ from both of our expectations. If I have any problem I say "I'm using unstable and here's the problem I'm having." I've always received an answer.
Oh, I have too. People always seem to be ready to help with Debian but... (below)
I have never once been told "you should be running stable". Perhaps because no one expects stable to be installed on anything except mission-critical machines.
And my servers are mission-critical which is why I'd be running stable on them.
With FreeBSD on the other hand... I have a system running 5.x to test/learn. Any problem I've had with that has been answered with "You should be running 4.x"
Well FreeBSD.org does clearly label the 4.x series as "Production Release." I do think that FreeBSD users generally won't go to the same degree in helping people as the users of Linux distributions do. It's very much more of a RTFM community (where M=man/manual/mailing list;)).
So, maybe our prejudice comes from experience with BSD?;)
What it really boils down to for me is that I can't stand to run the ancient code that is in Debian stable. I think it would be a perfectly good server platform if one takes on the management of up to date packages that pertain to the server's role. In no way am I arguing that Debian is not a good platform. I admire it in many ways but I simply prefer other alternatives.
I'm well aware of the different releases but I'm not willing to play that game. If there are problems with testing then the answer will be, "you should have been running stable." If someone complains about stable being out of date then, "you should be running testing."
To my eyes, the Debian release system just doesn't work.
I don't really get the schism between FreeBSD and Linux. I use both. The servers I have full control over usually get loaded with FreeBSD. The reasons for this are simple; I haven't found a Linux distribution with the ease of system upgrade and general maintenance that FreeBSD has. The ports system isn't perfect but using cvsup to get update patches for the core OS is simply wonderful. Combine this with the reputation for stability and it's a winning combination. A combination that makes me comfortable to upgrade the complete server remotely without worrying too much about the upgrade failing.
Gentoo is somewhat similar but they aren't aiming for ultra stability and they don't have a long term reputation like FreeBSD.
Debian is great for upgrades but the glacier pace of upgrades to the stable release is unacceptable.
Slackware is wonderful (I'm back to using it for my desktop OS) but upgrading the OS isn't as nice as FreeBSD. Third party tools like swaret are slick but not time tested.
I would love to have a tidy distributation of Linux and a small core of tools released in the same way as FreeBSD with a similar "make world" upgrade process.
Right now eMachines is just like Hyundai was a year or two ago--new products, better quality, etc. but with a poor reputation due to their past. eMachines went through a drastic change in management. Their machines today are much better than what they used to sell.
Why doesn't the gaming industry put it's money where it's mouth is: give absolutely free exchanges of good discs for damaged discs. At a maximum, a shipping fee would be paid. The burden of supporting the rest of the activity would be placed on the manufacturers. A 3rd party exchanger, authorized to provide replacement discs at anytime for at least a decade, would also be a workable solution.
You want to fight piracy? You don't want devices like this? Well make it so they aren't needed.
It isn't 2-3 MB, it's more like a cpl of 100 MB once people start adding perl to everything; and luckily for most people their brains can handle learning more than just one language, esp. considering that such a "included language" either is very simple, or you'd still have to learn a lot of new stuff even if it is perl... Not to mention that some people will include perl, some will include ruby, some will include javascript; so instead of having to learn enough to control that program, you'd have to learn the basics of a whole new language before you can get anything done.
Except no self-respecting geek will stand for that so they'll come up with a standard and then the language will be unbundled and life will go on. It's chess, not fate.
Yes, it's HUGE, when you're adding it to the software you've written yourself; and it's seriously overkill if you only want people to control a few things inside you're own program.
No, it is NOT huge. 300 MB is huge, 2-3 MB is peanuts. The loss of efficiency to my brain having to learn a new language is much greater than the loss of efficiency to my computer having to use a couple more megs of RAM. Stop punishing your users.
Off topic but you can just remove libnullplugin.so from the plugins directory and be rid of the prompts for all the different plugins (pretty sure that Firebird uses it just like Mozilla).
I have the flash and java plugins installed. It would be awesome if Mozilla/Firebird had the option to turn off specific plugins for websites just like popups.
The whole "honeypot" idea isn't exactly new but for those that haven't consider the implications of setting something like this up--it may not be a good idea to do it on your current mail server. While it will catch spammers, it will also get you on open relay lists and suddenly a lot of your outgoing mail may never reach the recipient due to anti-spam measures that many sysadmins place on their servers.
Now if you have a static IP that you don't mind tainting, go for it!
I remember when LG moved to SSC. The announcement was all about how SSC would be helping LG with hosting--nothing about the two merging. SSC is being underhanded which is a real shame considering that the Linux Journal is a decent magazine.
I honestly don't know what motivates spammers to send crap or empty messages.
What motivates them *not* to send crap or empty messages? Why waste the time getting rid of bad email addresses when they can focus on pumping out the maximum amount possible so they up their useful reply rate.
There are good reasons to move to IPv6, including security, multicasting, simplified header structures, and better routing to name a few.
And the number one reason to move to IPv6 is so we can stop having so many stories about it here! Please, for the love of all that is good, we must adopt IPv6 before slashdot is buried beneath a tsunami of IPv6 stories.
Read this thread: thread over at Anandtech. The problem reports start on the 2nd page. You could try disassembling your USB enclosure to check the chipset temperature. If it is really hot, try cooling it and seeing if it fixes the problem. If so, bad equipment.
If you want to see software version upgrades, you should probably use testing.
This is a very good point and actually hits the root of my annoyance with Debian. I believe that there are simply too many packages in the Debian system. To herd all of these packages into a release is a colossal undertaking. I strongly suspect it is one of the major causes of slow releases no matter how much that is denied.
FreeBSD is different because software outside of the core (the kernel and the stuff in CVS) is not as strongly tied to the release because of the ports tree. While packages of software are released with the distribution, the ports tree makes it possible to seperate the management of the operating system from the management of the other non-OS software--something I happen to prefer.
I have had problems with the ports tree and with other things in the FreeBSD operating system but over time my experience has been that, for the roles I use FreeBSD in (server), I have much fewer problems than with some of the linux servers I've dealt with. This ease of use is essential when physical access to some servers is 3+ hours away (6+ hours round trip).
Have you tried it, or are you making an assumtion? Because I used to think the same way, until I installed it.
;)).
;)
Yes, I used Debian stable/testing/unstable for more than 3 years on my personal laptop and at various times on non-essential servers. I no longer use Debian but I would not be opposed to trying it again later on down the road. I understand what the Debian group is trying to accomplish but I don't value the end result.
My experience with problems seems to differ from both of our expectations. If I have any problem I say "I'm using unstable and here's the problem I'm having." I've always received an answer.
Oh, I have too. People always seem to be ready to help with Debian but... (below)
I have never once been told "you should be running stable". Perhaps because no one expects stable to be installed on anything except mission-critical machines.
And my servers are mission-critical which is why I'd be running stable on them.
With FreeBSD on the other hand... I have a system running 5.x to test/learn. Any problem I've had with that has been answered with "You should be running 4.x"
Well FreeBSD.org does clearly label the 4.x series as "Production Release." I do think that FreeBSD users generally won't go to the same degree in helping people as the users of Linux distributions do. It's very much more of a RTFM community (where M=man/manual/mailing list
So, maybe our prejudice comes from experience with BSD?
What it really boils down to for me is that I can't stand to run the ancient code that is in Debian stable. I think it would be a perfectly good server platform if one takes on the management of up to date packages that pertain to the server's role. In no way am I arguing that Debian is not a good platform. I admire it in many ways but I simply prefer other alternatives.
Sounds like you used the wrong branch.
I'm well aware of the different releases but I'm not willing to play that game. If there are problems with testing then the answer will be, "you should have been running stable." If someone complains about stable being out of date then, "you should be running testing."
To my eyes, the Debian release system just doesn't work.
I don't really get the schism between FreeBSD and Linux. I use both. The servers I have full control over usually get loaded with FreeBSD. The reasons for this are simple; I haven't found a Linux distribution with the ease of system upgrade and general maintenance that FreeBSD has. The ports system isn't perfect but using cvsup to get update patches for the core OS is simply wonderful. Combine this with the reputation for stability and it's a winning combination. A combination that makes me comfortable to upgrade the complete server remotely without worrying too much about the upgrade failing.
Gentoo is somewhat similar but they aren't aiming for ultra stability and they don't have a long term reputation like FreeBSD.
Debian is great for upgrades but the glacier pace of upgrades to the stable release is unacceptable.
Slackware is wonderful (I'm back to using it for my desktop OS) but upgrading the OS isn't as nice as FreeBSD. Third party tools like swaret are slick but not time tested.
I would love to have a tidy distributation of Linux and a small core of tools released in the same way as FreeBSD with a similar "make world" upgrade process.
Right now eMachines is just like Hyundai was a year or two ago--new products, better quality, etc. but with a poor reputation due to their past. eMachines went through a drastic change in management. Their machines today are much better than what they used to sell.
At least that's the buzz...
The ones with a mini-nuclear plant onboard are a real bitch.
Why doesn't the gaming industry put it's money where it's mouth is: give absolutely free exchanges of good discs for damaged discs. At a maximum, a shipping fee would be paid. The burden of supporting the rest of the activity would be placed on the manufacturers. A 3rd party exchanger, authorized to provide replacement discs at anytime for at least a decade, would also be a workable solution.
You want to fight piracy? You don't want devices like this? Well make it so they aren't needed.
It isn't 2-3 MB, it's more like a cpl of 100 MB once people start adding perl to everything; and luckily for most people their brains can handle learning more than just one language, esp. considering that such a "included language" either is very simple, or you'd still have to learn a lot of new stuff even if it is perl... Not to mention that some people will include perl, some will include ruby, some will include javascript; so instead of having to learn enough to control that program, you'd have to learn the basics of a whole new language before you can get anything done.
Except no self-respecting geek will stand for that so they'll come up with a standard and then the language will be unbundled and life will go on. It's chess, not fate.
Yes, it's HUGE, when you're adding it to the software you've written yourself; and it's seriously overkill if you only want people to control a few things inside you're own program.
No, it is NOT huge. 300 MB is huge, 2-3 MB is peanuts. The loss of efficiency to my brain having to learn a new language is much greater than the loss of efficiency to my computer having to use a couple more megs of RAM. Stop punishing your users.
Is PHP/Perl/Python too big? Just use them. I don't care about a couple more megs of system RAM. RAM is cheap. Learning a new language takes time.
Unless there are extremely good grounds for using some annoying new/odd language, use something mainstream.
I haven't seen crashes using KDE or QT applications.
Off topic? Come on, this is in the exactly same line as the submitted story. Doing good can be bad.
Some offices do thrive on Lotus Notes, although I think there's a native port to Linux from IBM. Others have lots of custom VB thingies, too.
Just the server but the client does work in wine and probably in Crossover too.
You can block popups from sites but I don't think you can choose plugins or java/javascript blocking for specific sites.
Off topic but you can just remove libnullplugin.so from the plugins directory and be rid of the prompts for all the different plugins (pretty sure that Firebird uses it just like Mozilla).
I have the flash and java plugins installed. It would be awesome if Mozilla/Firebird had the option to turn off specific plugins for websites just like popups.
I'd say most of the posts here are long past the Schadenfreude mark and are hitting the "outright gloating" stage.
the install disk installs half the crap
And this is different from other manufacturers how? They all load up junk. That's why you spend an hour or so to:
1) download all the required drivers
2) use a regular/OEM-style release of Windows to do the load
3) ??
4) profit
The whole "honeypot" idea isn't exactly new but for those that haven't consider the implications of setting something like this up--it may not be a good idea to do it on your current mail server. While it will catch spammers, it will also get you on open relay lists and suddenly a lot of your outgoing mail may never reach the recipient due to anti-spam measures that many sysadmins place on their
servers.
Now if you have a static IP that you don't mind tainting, go for it!
I remember when LG moved to SSC. The announcement was all about how SSC would be helping LG with hosting--nothing about the two merging. SSC is being underhanded which is a real shame considering that the Linux Journal is a decent magazine.
They are rebranded machines from Asia...
Wahoo! Just like Dell!
1) Client runs under Wine.
2) Notes is end of the road technology.
3) Notes sucks.
ex-CLP
I honestly don't know what motivates spammers to send crap or empty messages.
What motivates them *not* to send crap or empty messages? Why waste the time getting rid of bad email addresses when they can focus on pumping out the maximum amount possible so they up their useful reply rate.
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