People who defend their choice of phone by the ability to build and install their own ROM need to get a life.
It doesn't take much time to flash a custom Rom or sideload a few applications. Certainly I've done it on Windows Mobile and it makes a smartphone a very useful device. And I've got no intention of moving to a phone I can't do it on.
Consider a person with turret's calling you an asshole versus someone without calling you an asshole.
If a person has turrets I'd be very careful about pissing him off.
On the other hand if he was another self diagnosed Internet assburger case, let's face it huge wedgie is in order. And basically prison is the adult version of giving the class tard a huge wedgie when they misbehave.
Assburgers is a made-up disease, most common in overachieving middle-class families, because little Johnny is either a social outcast, or is just acting fucking retarded. The parents diagnose their child, and the "doctors" go along with and encourage it because of the money it generates. Fuckers. The truth is, the Assburgers diagnosis has become popular with parents because they need a good excuse as to why their "retarded rechildren are dumb faggots who will be dying alone."
You may be rich enough for this to be loose change to you, but I can assure you this not not cheap. Particularly given the actual dvd media costs less than £1.
Economics 101.
I spend x million making a video game. I sell y copies each making a profit of z dollars. If y*z is more than x I make a profit on the whole deal and do it again. If not I put the money somewhere else. People that play the game but don't pay make the people that make the game less likely to make a profit and therefore less likely to make games.
If I want to play a game I buy it. If I can't afford it I don't. Just like if I want to eat at a restaurant I pay, I don't eat and then refuse to pay. People that do that reduce the profitability of the restaurant and make it likely to close.
I think there's an argument that very clever hackers should be allowed to rig Presidential elections. Clearly if they were smart enough to hack it they should be smart enough to decide who becomes President.
In fact you could have a sets of 1 million block votes each protected by various advanced cryptography schemes. By default they'd vote for no one. If someone hacked them they could decide who to vote for.
Or they could sell the votes on the open market and use the money to fund more research or buying better supercomputers for next time.
But the above statement strikes me as rather pathetic trolling - in the history of new computing devices, has there ever been a wealth of software sat there waiting for its release day ready to install on it?
If they'd allowed Windows Phone 7 to run Windows Mobile 6 applications (and both of them are based on Windows CE) they would have had a wealth of software. If they'd allowed people with C/C++ legacy code to run it on WP7 they'd have had people who have iPhone/Android portable applications supporting them.
The fatal flaw in WP7 is that they've told those people they need to either rewrite everything in C# or pay Microsoft for a permit to use native code. Most developers aren't going to do either of those for a platform with the market share of WM6 (~10%). Actually WP7 looks like it will have even less market share that that.
Microsoft's total market share has dropped from 6.8% in 1Q10 to 3.3% in 1Q11. Of that only 1.6% is WP7, the rest is WM6. Right now you can write in C/C++ and target Android and iPhone. Rewriting in C# or paying for native code is just not going to happen to get 1.6% of the market. In fact all the companies that make software I use on WM6 have dropped WM6 and announced they won't support WP7 but will move to Android and/or iPhone.
At that point it's hard to see the people who've bought WM6 in the past are going to move to WP7 instead of Android.
Look at it this way. Imagine if Vista had been launched with no support for XP applications at a point where OSX had a much larger market share. All the people that made software on XP have already ported to OSX and announced they'd drop support for XP and not support Vista. Basically it would have been game over for Microsoft on the desktop. That's what they've done on phones.
What's funny is that I remember loads of excited articles on how Vista's crappiness would cause a move to Linux. That was never going to happen. On the other hand I can see WP7 causing all the WM6 users moving to Android.
Android right now is literally a better Windows Mobile than WP7.
It's actually amazing that a company obsessed with back compatibility and cosseting developers like Microsoft has done something so dumb.
There were 36 million Android handsets sold last quarter. There were 3.6 million Microsoft ones. Unfortunately for Microsoft only 1.6 million of those were Windows Phone 7, i.e. 2 million were Windows Mobile 6.x.
When my Sony Ericsson X1 was being repaired I bought another Windows Mobile device to run the applications I use every day. So I got an HTC HD2 rather than a HD7. Right now if I lost the HD2 I'd probably just buy another one. There's no reason for me to move to WP7. I suspect a lot of WM6.x users feel the same way. And the HD2 is a pretty good handset that can run WM6.x, WP7 or Android. The HD7 can only run WP7 and right now WP7 is a disaster for applications - all of the WM6.x ISVs have announced that they won't port to WP7 and have stopped new builds on WM6.x. But on WM6.x you can still use the old builds. For things I use everyday like Pleco, that's good enough for me while Pleco finish their port to Android. iGo's GPS software works on WM6.x and Android. It won't ever run on WP7. Opera works on WM6.x and Android. It won't ever run on WP7. Basically all the WM6.x software vendors will never support WP7 but either have already ported to Android or are committed to doing so. So in the short term I'll stay on WM6.x but in the long term I'll move to Android.
And if you're already using Android or iPhone you're not going to switch to WP7 for much the same reason.
So I can't really imagine how WP7 can ever succeed. Especially not with adverts like this
Maybe they should rename it WP7 something like Yo! or HipStah! Or something impossible to search for on Google like "C#" or ".Net".
Or Neegro to capitalize on some of the buzz Nokia created with their Meego commercial whilst still aiming for an young urban market. I.e. the sort of gangster wannabe white middle class suburban kids that listen to rap music steal pairs of Nikes from each other at gun point.
No. Whilst many people regard the mere suggestion as being outrageous I still strongly suspect that WP7 is not going to be a great success.
That way all the other computer janitors in the US will shuffle along swiftly and doff their caps humbly to the wealth creating class, motivated by FEAR.
I've been using Windows Mobile 6.x for ages and I wouldn't touch Windows Phone 7 with a barge-pole - it's off to Android for my next phone.
WM6.x was a bit ugly by default but enormously customisable and there was loads of software for it floating around as cab files of dubious legality. Also a lot of Windows applications were built for WM. I don't see that happening on WM7 which disallows native code. Only a C# API is allowed and third party applications have a crippled API. No multitasking or sockets for example. There's little chance of the people who wrote good apps for WM6.x rewriting them in C# - they've already moved to Android and or iPhone.
In a sense Microsoft are trying to go from an open but ugly platform like Android to a slick but locked down one like iOS. Mind you even iOS allows third parties to use the first class tools. On WP7 you need to have an agreement with Microsoft to do that. Adobe have one for example to implement Flash as native code. Some of the game vendors do too. In the absence of that you need to rewrite everything in C#. Most ISVs are not going to do that when there are tools that let them run their existing C/C++ code on both Android and iPhone which combined have a much larger market share than WP7. E.g. Android sold 36 million handsets last quarter. Microsoft sold 3.6 million of which 2.0 million were WM6.5 and 1.8 million were WP7.
So Opera and Mozilla have both stopped supporting Windows Mobile and won't support WP7.
Apple would butcher their users if they could sell their organs profitably.
Actually if would be funny reading True Believer Mac users try to explain why this was justified on the Internet as they got stuffed into cattle carts.
I'd normally hesitate to do anything that drags the erudite discussions here off on a tangent, but look at this Nixie clock made out of Neon Ring Counters
The point I was making was that international banning weapons only bans them for the sort of countries who actually care a bit about international law, rather like banning guns means only criminals have guns.
You could easily end up in a situation where the EU countries browbeat the US into banning weapons that end up being used against it by the likes of China, North Korea etc. None of whom even bother to pretend they care about international law.
It's a shame the Geneva Convention didn't ban all weapons as 'causing inhumane suffering'. Then we wouldn't have any war at all. Just like banning drugs made all drugs go away.
I bet the Roman tenant farmers thought they'd be OK. They were Roman citizens after all. Actually their status gradually eroded and they became serfs, tied permanently to the land they worked.
In many ways you can see this happening in the US. Most people have huge debts and if they left their job they'd loose literally everything. Also IP laws work heavily against them.
It's not impossible they - you rather - might become enserfed over time.
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People who defend their choice of phone by the ability to build and install their own ROM need to get a life.
It doesn't take much time to flash a custom Rom or sideload a few applications. Certainly I've done it on Windows Mobile and it makes a smartphone a very useful device. And I've got no intention of moving to a phone I can't do it on.
If I owned a walled garden I'd have red necks with pump action shotguns to shoot anyone who tried to escape.
Consider a person with turret's calling you an asshole versus someone without calling you an asshole.
If a person has turrets I'd be very careful about pissing him off.
On the other hand if he was another self diagnosed Internet assburger case, let's face it huge wedgie is in order. And basically prison is the adult version of giving the class tard a huge wedgie when they misbehave.
Also this
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Asperger's_Syndrome#Assburgers_on_ED
Assburgers is a made-up disease, most common in overachieving middle-class families, because little Johnny is either a social outcast, or is just acting fucking retarded. The parents diagnose their child, and the "doctors" go along with and encourage it because of the money it generates. Fuckers. The truth is, the Assburgers diagnosis has become popular with parents because they need a good excuse as to why their "retarded rechildren are dumb faggots who will be dying alone."
You may be rich enough for this to be loose change to you, but I can assure you this not not cheap. Particularly given the actual dvd media costs less than £1.
Economics 101.
I spend x million making a video game. I sell y copies each making a profit of z dollars. If y*z is more than x I make a profit on the whole deal and do it again. If not I put the money somewhere else. People that play the game but don't pay make the people that make the game less likely to make a profit and therefore less likely to make games.
If I want to play a game I buy it. If I can't afford it I don't. Just like if I want to eat at a restaurant I pay, I don't eat and then refuse to pay. People that do that reduce the profitability of the restaurant and make it likely to close.
What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?
I think there's an argument that very clever hackers should be allowed to rig Presidential elections. Clearly if they were smart enough to hack it they should be smart enough to decide who becomes President.
In fact you could have a sets of 1 million block votes each protected by various advanced cryptography schemes. By default they'd vote for no one. If someone hacked them they could decide who to vote for.
Or they could sell the votes on the open market and use the money to fund more research or buying better supercomputers for next time.
But the above statement strikes me as rather pathetic trolling - in the history of new computing devices, has there ever been a wealth of software sat there waiting for its release day ready to install on it?
If they'd allowed Windows Phone 7 to run Windows Mobile 6 applications (and both of them are based on Windows CE) they would have had a wealth of software. If they'd allowed people with C/C++ legacy code to run it on WP7 they'd have had people who have iPhone/Android portable applications supporting them.
The fatal flaw in WP7 is that they've told those people they need to either rewrite everything in C# or pay Microsoft for a permit to use native code. Most developers aren't going to do either of those for a platform with the market share of WM6 (~10%). Actually WP7 looks like it will have even less market share that that.
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1689814
Microsoft's total market share has dropped from 6.8% in 1Q10 to 3.3% in 1Q11. Of that only 1.6% is WP7, the rest is WM6. Right now you can write in C/C++ and target Android and iPhone. Rewriting in C# or paying for native code is just not going to happen to get 1.6% of the market. In fact all the companies that make software I use on WM6 have dropped WM6 and announced they won't support WP7 but will move to Android and/or iPhone.
At that point it's hard to see the people who've bought WM6 in the past are going to move to WP7 instead of Android.
Look at it this way. Imagine if Vista had been launched with no support for XP applications at a point where OSX had a much larger market share. All the people that made software on XP have already ported to OSX and announced they'd drop support for XP and not support Vista. Basically it would have been game over for Microsoft on the desktop. That's what they've done on phones.
What's funny is that I remember loads of excited articles on how Vista's crappiness would cause a move to Linux. That was never going to happen. On the other hand I can see WP7 causing all the WM6 users moving to Android.
Android right now is literally a better Windows Mobile than WP7.
It's actually amazing that a company obsessed with back compatibility and cosseting developers like Microsoft has done something so dumb.
Why give up the huge support base and massive app availability of Android or iOS for.. well, Something Else.
Why give up the massive app availability of Windows Mobile 6.5 for ... well Something Else.
According to Gartner
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/gartner-1-6-million-windows-phone-7-devices-sold-in-q1-consume/
There were 36 million Android handsets sold last quarter. There were 3.6 million Microsoft ones. Unfortunately for Microsoft only 1.6 million of those were Windows Phone 7, i.e. 2 million were Windows Mobile 6.x.
When my Sony Ericsson X1 was being repaired I bought another Windows Mobile device to run the applications I use every day. So I got an HTC HD2 rather than a HD7. Right now if I lost the HD2 I'd probably just buy another one. There's no reason for me to move to WP7. I suspect a lot of WM6.x users feel the same way. And the HD2 is a pretty good handset that can run WM6.x, WP7 or Android. The HD7 can only run WP7 and right now WP7 is a disaster for applications - all of the WM6.x ISVs have announced that they won't port to WP7 and have stopped new builds on WM6.x. But on WM6.x you can still use the old builds. For things I use everyday like Pleco, that's good enough for me while Pleco finish their port to Android. iGo's GPS software works on WM6.x and Android. It won't ever run on WP7. Opera works on WM6.x and Android. It won't ever run on WP7. Basically all the WM6.x software vendors will never support WP7 but either have already ported to Android or are committed to doing so. So in the short term I'll stay on WM6.x but in the long term I'll move to Android.
And if you're already using Android or iPhone you're not going to switch to WP7 for much the same reason.
So I can't really imagine how WP7 can ever succeed. Especially not with adverts like this
Hot Apps: Burn It All, Lunchbox, Urban Dictionary, Simon, Apict
Maybe they should rename it WP7 something like Yo! or HipStah! Or something impossible to search for on Google like "C#" or ".Net".
Or Neegro to capitalize on some of the buzz Nokia created with their Meego commercial whilst still aiming for an young urban market. I.e. the sort of gangster wannabe white middle class suburban kids that listen to rap music steal pairs of Nikes from each other at gun point.
No. Whilst many people regard the mere suggestion as being outrageous I still strongly suspect that WP7 is not going to be a great success.
Why did that summary get approved? It's obviously false.
Clearly the vetting and fact checking process was not up to samzenpus's normal high standards.
You sound so camp I'm surprised you don't already use Apple products.
Loads of places that got rid of me folded soon after.
One burned to the ground, but I have a cast iron alibi for that night.
They should cut his nuts off.
That way all the other computer janitors in the US will shuffle along swiftly and doff their caps humbly to the wealth creating class, motivated by FEAR.
I've been using Windows Mobile 6.x for ages and I wouldn't touch Windows Phone 7 with a barge-pole - it's off to Android for my next phone.
WM6.x was a bit ugly by default but enormously customisable and there was loads of software for it floating around as cab files of dubious legality. Also a lot of Windows applications were built for WM. I don't see that happening on WM7 which disallows native code. Only a C# API is allowed and third party applications have a crippled API. No multitasking or sockets for example. There's little chance of the people who wrote good apps for WM6.x rewriting them in C# - they've already moved to Android and or iPhone.
In a sense Microsoft are trying to go from an open but ugly platform like Android to a slick but locked down one like iOS. Mind you even iOS allows third parties to use the first class tools. On WP7 you need to have an agreement with Microsoft to do that. Adobe have one for example to implement Flash as native code. Some of the game vendors do too. In the absence of that you need to rewrite everything in C#. Most ISVs are not going to do that when there are tools that let them run their existing C/C++ code on both Android and iPhone which combined have a much larger market share than WP7. E.g. Android sold 36 million handsets last quarter. Microsoft sold 3.6 million of which 2.0 million were WM6.5 and 1.8 million were WP7.
So Opera and Mozilla have both stopped supporting Windows Mobile and won't support WP7.
WP7 is going to fail badly.
Your wife will have an affair with someone who'll get her an iPhone.
Apple would butcher their users if they could sell their organs profitably.
Actually if would be funny reading True Believer Mac users try to explain why this was justified on the Internet as they got stuffed into cattle carts.
Still pissed about this, eh?
Please Cease and Desist from violating the Centre for Religious Technology's Intellectual Property.
I'd normally hesitate to do anything that drags the erudite discussions here off on a tangent, but look at this Nixie clock made out of Neon Ring Counters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4v7IDIYiNQ
People care aboot hockey? And enough to riot?
FTFY
The point I was making was that international banning weapons only bans them for the sort of countries who actually care a bit about international law, rather like banning guns means only criminals have guns.
You could easily end up in a situation where the EU countries browbeat the US into banning weapons that end up being used against it by the likes of China, North Korea etc. None of whom even bother to pretend they care about international law.
I tapped someone I met on Facebook once. I got a really nasty disease.
It's a shame the Geneva Convention didn't ban all weapons as 'causing inhumane suffering'. Then we wouldn't have any war at all. Just like banning drugs made all drugs go away.
I know flamethrowers against people are illegal.
Here is song from the Vietnam War
Flying low in a combat zone
Burning Commies to the bone
Love to hear them scream and moan
Because napalm sticks to kids.
I bet the Roman tenant farmers thought they'd be OK. They were Roman citizens after all. Actually their status gradually eroded and they became serfs, tied permanently to the land they worked.
In many ways you can see this happening in the US. Most people have huge debts and if they left their job they'd loose literally everything. Also IP laws work heavily against them.
It's not impossible they - you rather - might become enserfed over time.
Well, consider my thesis disproved.