Nothing at all is wrong with scientific notation. I was just objecting to people making stuff up like "billion billion", if you want to call it an english name then just up the prefix for every three zeros you add (mi-->bi-->tri-->quad-->quint-->etc.).
I don't understand why people make up numbers like "500 billion billion" (which is meaningless) instead of using the number's proper name, "500 quintillion", or maybe "half a sextillion". It's not that complicated folks - thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, nonillion, decillion, etc.
"Many" is pretty relative. I'm sure that if Microsoft provided a count of Sharepoint licenses sold, we would agree that it is "many", but I know of no business that uses it or who are even looking into it, or - as the grandparent said - even know what it is.
You're right about small businesses using Access as basically an in-house developed ERP.
The wikipedia article you linked to doesn't exist. You are correct that in some instances people use spreadsheets for complex operations as you describe - that's called "using the wrong tool for the job". Spreadsheets aren't databases, nor are they data processing applications.
Exactly, this whole thread bothers me. It's sad that dozens of people here keep talking about the US as a democracy. We live in a Republic. Read the constitution sometime, the word democracy doesn't appear once. Children in the US recite the pledge of allegiance to the flag every day, and "to the republic for which stands". Parent's quote from Ben Franklin is dead on and is why we are not a democracy.
Published HP ratings for cars are still measured at the crank; I'm not sure what your point was. Go to a chassis dyno and you'll typically only get 70-80% of the published horsepower for a vehicle. Maybe the MPG ratings have changed, I don't know anything about that.
That's always the standard answer when talking about VoIP, that it's latency and not bandwidth, but in my experience more bandwidth always solves VoIP clarity problems.
You mention "without cooperation from the routers along the way (i.e. make them have VoIP packets "jump the queue" when there's a lot of traffic to process)" - which is really QOS - but QOS only comes into play when you don't have enough bandwidth to begin with to support all the traffic you're trying to pipe down the line. If you had enough overhead then there would be no traffic for the VoIP traffic to "jump", no need for QOS, and altogether a good VoIP connection. I.e., the only thing that causes the random delay of packets is not enough bandwidth to do what you want to do - buy more bandwidth, enjoy your call quality.
I don't think your 14' bass boat would be considered a "speed boat". You can't pull anything that would remotely be considered a "speed boat" of 20 foot or greater in length without a decent sized truck. The only you can pull with a Honda Civic is a wave runner, and I hope you don't need to use a salt-water ramp to do so or your Civic isn't going to last very long.
Also, see my reply to your sister post, you seem to have missed the point.
So you're saying it's perfectly fine to make a value judgement about somebody based on knowing 2 vehicles that they own and nothing else? Maybe he bikes to work and only takes the Hummer on weekends, maybe he uses the boat to go out and save baby turtles, maybe he carpools with 6 other co-workers thus making the mpg/person significantly better than if everybody drove their Toyota Priuses, maybe he hauls recycled material to the local recycling center for his church, etc.
When, at any time in this thread did anybody say that somebody other than themselves needs to do something about the environment? I was making the point that vehicles have other uses, and we should get out of the mindset that anybody who doesn't drive a hybrid is somebody who trashes the environment.
Also, since you kind of went off there, I figure now is the time to educate you that pollution (both air and water) is a world-wide problem, and the emissions of modern vehicles in the US are actually quite low comparatively. If you have X units of time or money to spend on helping the environment, your resources are better put to use helping to fix any number of other more serious issues.
No, his rebuttal was good, it just flew over your head. The general idea being that people who live in the city have no choice but to at least make some effort to keep it clean (because they live so densely with others), whereas in a rural area you can use up more natural resources per person - be inefficient - and it goes unnoticed.
hardcore gun-totin' Republican
Gun control is one issue that doesn't really fall to party lines. And what specifically makes your neighbor a 'pinko commie liberal'? If one owns a speedboat, you normally need a vehicle large enough to tow it (hence Hummer) - it could have been any large truck/SUV that would be equally fuel in-efficient. Owning a speedboat and a truck doesn't make one not environmentally aware.
...on both sides of the party line.
Uhh, there are more than two parties.
Have we all learned a valuable lesson about false dichotomies?
2 things that I think are being overlooked in this discussion:
1) Optical storage contains a lot of data that would be unaffected by an EMP, and I imagine people would be able to come up with a rudimentry way to read it pretty quickly. Also information stored on paper would be unaffected.
2) I think you overestimate the power of an EMP. An EMP doesn't eliminate the existance of electrons or prevent wires from ever carrying current again. Many basic electric devices could still function or function again with little repair. Also I can't imagine being able to blanket *the world* with a strong enough EMP to destroy everything, something, somewhere, will survive. I bet there are even facilities designed to survive it.
So with the existance of some infrastructure, some reference material and, as previously discussed, the knowledge already being out there, I think we'd rebound fairly quickly.
Your best argument is the one that people would just be trying to survive and it would be chaos without the level of communication that our current society is used to, and with everybody's bank account presumably wiped out.
I had to make a list of/ALL/ open source software used ANYWHERE in the company.
For what purpose was that information to be used? Why would a VC firm care specifically about open source? Was it good or bad to be using it? I could make up that list in my company in a few hours, doesn't sound like that big of a deal (I guess it depends on the size of the company).
Exactly, I think I heard Bruce Schneier in a debate where the other guy used the "I've got nothing to hide" argument and Bruce, without missing a beat, asked him how much money he made. The guy was silent and didn't answer. Bruce made the point that surely the man wasn't doing anything wrong by earning a living and providing for his family, so why wouldn't he say what he made? It turns out the guy valued privacy after all.
And better than "how often do you have sex", say "Can I come to your house and watch you have sex with your spouse?". Surely a man and woman acting in procreation aren't doing anything wrong, so why would they mind? Again the answer will most certainly be "no"; again somebody who values their privacy (whether they realize it or not). With enough video surveillance in cities it will be able to be abused and peer into unsuspecting households.
Yeah I figured somebody would take my sarcastic remark and make a rant out of it:)
I sort of agree with you. I agree with the general thought that hours worked is not a (direct) measure of your value to the company, and people who put in fewer hours *can* be more productive than people who put in fewer hours (smokers vs. non-smokers comes to mind, not to start a separate discussion...). I believe, however, that it is more true with regular employees than managers.
For managers, there is more of a perception issue with hours worked. While a manager working 9-5 to the minute or whatever may be an awesome manager who motivates a team well, gets along with everybody, communicates well, etc., that is the rare case. I have some experience with basically the other extreme to your argument - people who have departments that run well, but not because of them (the manager). They normally have some exceptional employees who become the de-facto managers, or a whole team who communicates and performs well, when the real "manager" waltzes in and out of the office whenever they feel like it and does very little, but they tout how good their department is (again, not because of them). Those managers are not respected and will eventually be found out as frauds. So again, while I agree to a point with your argument, one can err to either extreme.
I think hours worked is *one of many* metrics that makes a good manager, but to say that hours worked has little or no bearing on your productivity/value is wrong. I hold to my statement that managers should generally arrive before team members do to begin preparing for the day, given the same shift (obviously not relevant in a 24 hour environment). If anything managers should leave early, not arrive late - you need to be there first thing to set a team on the objectives for the day.
I've read most of the posts above, and below is my answer. I don't drink coffee and if I eat breakfast that day I do it before work. I don't read Slashdot / etc. while at work, I do that on my own time after I get home. Also the full question was "What is the first thing you do when you get to work in the morning?" (emphasis mine) - so there goes the answers like "shower". We'll also assume that this is a normal work day and an automated monitoring system hasn't paged me with a problem causing me to drive in early and fix it. We'll also assume I didn't just get back from a vacation.
OK, now with all the qualifiers out of the way, here's what I do first thing:
Check voice mail. I will only normally have 1 or 2 at the most unless I've had days off, and I also get voice mails via email so it's likely I already heard it.
Skim emails. Again I keep tabs on email even when not working so there's not normally a ton of new stuff, but I like to look over all of the emails, delete spam, and read important things first or things I've been waiting to hear back on. This is not when I deal with less important emails or write lengthy emails to people.
Check monitors / logs. For me this means disk space monitors, MRTG bandwidth reports, backup statuses, etc.
Check my short-term to-do list, normally created the day or two before that gets updated a couple times per week. Start on a project or delegate a project to a co-worker.
If I'm in a waiting stage on all of my short term projects (waiting for parts to ship or waiting on a vendor or waiting to hear back from upper management) then I will make an effort to follow up on those items to help move it along (check tracking numbers, send "reminder" emails, etc.).
If all of the above is taken care of, move on to the long-term project list.
My last comment is that some people have very specific ideas of what an "IT Manager" does or should do. Keep in mind that's a very broad term that will vary from organization to organization, mostly depending on the size. Somebody above made a distinction between an IT Manager and a System Administrator, but when your whole team is two people (like mine) those things don't make much difference. Maybe in some organizations IT managers don't get paged, or don't deal with backups, or whatever, but in smaller organizations the manager is also a staff member.
Except that as the manager, you should be there before anybody else so there's nobody to greet yet. Maybe that's the second or third thing that you do...
I have 9 computers in my household, would the bank need to go through every one of them? Or could I just provide one PC, say a freshly loaded BSD box and say that's the one I use? It all goes through the same NAT router, so unless they go through their logs and look at my browser's user-agent (which can be spoofed anyway) they would have no way of knowing.
Hmmm, my version of Safari for Windows says "Version 3", not "0.1". Safari's core browser code has been done and stable for years. Apple has already written Windows apps so they already have many of the interface components. Apple didn't even write their rendering engine. Comparing Safari for Windows to Mozilla Phoenix 0.1 is quite a straw man argument. Well I guess it's typical for a Mac fanboi AC.
How do they even know it's a business card? I have a business card and use it all the time - I provide my name which is on the card and the CC number / expiration / CVV2 code and the card gets charged. Nobody ever knows it's a "business" or "personal" card unless you show it in person and they see the company name on the card.
When I was on DSL VoIP was mostly acceptable but would get choppy like a bad cell phone connection if somebody was browsing the Internet at the same time. I've been on Verizon Fios for almost a year now and Vonage has been rock solid - even when downloading / bittorrenting - I haven't had one issue since changing ISPs. I don't even have the recommended ports opened up in my router that supposedly makes Vonage work better. I assume the main difference is the total available bandwidth (both directions) is much higher with Fios. The DSL was like 3mbps/768kbps so it wasn't even a slow one, but my Fios is 15/2mbps. I've never had Vonage be laggy like you describe though, it would just cut out (sometimes only for one party). What kind of VoIP were you using?
Who is your ISP? I just did some quick searches and didn't find any news of ISP's blocking VoIP since '05 when apparently the FCC hit a few of them with fines for doing so.
Perhaps you are not used to being able to grab any edge of any window to drag and move it around the screen, but in my opinion it's a much better interface decision than having the annoyance of your cursor changing to arrows every time you're near an edge of a window.
No, I'm not used to it nor does Safari for Windows provide such functionality that you describe. You can only grab the window by the top title bar and menu area. I actually prefer most Linux distros' approach of using a modifier (e.g., Alt) to grab ANYWHERE on a window to move it. Besides, if one has chosen an OS based on the characteristics of that particular OS (in this case, resizable windows from any border), then why would Apple develop a program that specifically goes against such conventions? I thought they were "UI experts"? Sorry if parent Anonymous Coward isn't the same AC as its grandparent (quoted), but I have no way of knowing.
Most browsers don't require you to type ctrl+enter to append www. and.com. Just type the domain name and hit enter.
Incorrect in two ways: 1) Browsers will first look for a host (i.e., on your network) named what you typed first, so it's a few second delay before they do anything else. 2) IE actually performs a search for what you type if the host isn't found, it doesn't append the www. and the.com. Ctrl+enter is a standard way to explicitly go to the site you want. Firefox even allows you to append.net and.org with different modifiers.
Ctrl+t does open a new tab. Did you even try the keyboard shortcuts before claiming they don't work?
My bad, there were so many ones that didn't work I must have gotten mixed up.
are you telling me there's no application for Windows that lets you set any keyboard shortcut to perform any action, in any application?
No, actually there are many freeware programs that do that.
Use a custom CSS file for your ad-blocking needs. This one works well enough, I'm sure it works on Safari for Windows as well.
Thanks for the tip, it does work, sort of. Not that I can really give Safari any credit for it though.
But of course, with your attitude, nothing Apple does will ever be 'good enough' for you.
Well that has been the case so far. My "attitude" is pretty open for trying new things and adapting, right now I'm in a dual-boot Linux / Vista system running in an XP VM trying out this new Safari browser and Fx 3 alpha 6. For a company so bent on removing choice from users claiming that their way "just works", Safari has been pretty disappointing. I haven't seen anywhere on the web (blogs, reviews, forum comments, etc) where Safari for Windows has been at all well received, just a bunch of Mac fanbois trying to defend the Mac way in a place where it doesn't belong. I hope Safari for Windows does solve some of these problems, it is needed as a development tool and I'm all for anything to help take market share away from IE and promote web standards, but it's not really a usable product as it stands now.
I will give you two things that I think are slick in Safari though - resizable text areas, and the highlighting to draw your attention the active form input and text search.
No, it's actually not stable at all, and doesn't work for many things. Every review I've read of it mentions Safari crashing, and it has crashed on me a few times. It can't maximize on a secondary monitor without crashing. It can't authenticate to Windows networks. Security holes were found in less than 2 hours. It can't use proxies.
It's designed by people who know how to design user interfaces
Yeah, that's why it can only resize from one corner, much more convenient. And why clicking on the task bar doesn't minimize / maximize. And also why the UI is a flat, ugly gray with an eye piercing blue scroll bar that doesn't match anything else in Safari or on Windows, neither of which can be changed. Or why you can't double-click or middle-click the tab bar to open a new tab with the mouse. Or why the bookmarks interface takes over your current web page. Yeah, a bunch of UI experts over there.
Oh, my, God. You might be forced to learn something new!
This is just a petty mac fanboi response. Most browsers use ctrl+tab to cycle through tabs, ctrl+enter to append www. and.com to a URL in the address bar, alt+enter to open a typed address in a new window, ctrl+t to open a new tab, etc. Some browsers have minor variations of these, but Safari isn't even close, nor do their keyboard shortcuts even make sense. They clearly didn't design it with keyboard usage in mind.
They may not have been ported to Safari for Windows quite yet,
Yeah, like he said, there is no ad-blocking capabilities on Safari for Windows.
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Servers absolutely are selling with the Opteron 8222, I don't know why you think it's unreleased.
Nothing at all is wrong with scientific notation. I was just objecting to people making stuff up like "billion billion", if you want to call it an english name then just up the prefix for every three zeros you add (mi-->bi-->tri-->quad-->quint-->etc.).
I don't understand why people make up numbers like "500 billion billion" (which is meaningless) instead of using the number's proper name, "500 quintillion", or maybe "half a sextillion". It's not that complicated folks - thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, nonillion, decillion, etc.
"Many" is pretty relative. I'm sure that if Microsoft provided a count of Sharepoint licenses sold, we would agree that it is "many", but I know of no business that uses it or who are even looking into it, or - as the grandparent said - even know what it is.
You're right about small businesses using Access as basically an in-house developed ERP.
The wikipedia article you linked to doesn't exist. You are correct that in some instances people use spreadsheets for complex operations as you describe - that's called "using the wrong tool for the job". Spreadsheets aren't databases, nor are they data processing applications.
Exactly, this whole thread bothers me. It's sad that dozens of people here keep talking about the US as a democracy. We live in a Republic. Read the constitution sometime, the word democracy doesn't appear once. Children in the US recite the pledge of allegiance to the flag every day, and "to the republic for which stands". Parent's quote from Ben Franklin is dead on and is why we are not a democracy.
Published HP ratings for cars are still measured at the crank; I'm not sure what your point was. Go to a chassis dyno and you'll typically only get 70-80% of the published horsepower for a vehicle. Maybe the MPG ratings have changed, I don't know anything about that.
That's always the standard answer when talking about VoIP, that it's latency and not bandwidth, but in my experience more bandwidth always solves VoIP clarity problems.
You mention "without cooperation from the routers along the way (i.e. make them have VoIP packets "jump the queue" when there's a lot of traffic to process)" - which is really QOS - but QOS only comes into play when you don't have enough bandwidth to begin with to support all the traffic you're trying to pipe down the line. If you had enough overhead then there would be no traffic for the VoIP traffic to "jump", no need for QOS, and altogether a good VoIP connection. I.e., the only thing that causes the random delay of packets is not enough bandwidth to do what you want to do - buy more bandwidth, enjoy your call quality.
I don't think your 14' bass boat would be considered a "speed boat". You can't pull anything that would remotely be considered a "speed boat" of 20 foot or greater in length without a decent sized truck. The only you can pull with a Honda Civic is a wave runner, and I hope you don't need to use a salt-water ramp to do so or your Civic isn't going to last very long.
Also, see my reply to your sister post, you seem to have missed the point.
So you're saying it's perfectly fine to make a value judgement about somebody based on knowing 2 vehicles that they own and nothing else? Maybe he bikes to work and only takes the Hummer on weekends, maybe he uses the boat to go out and save baby turtles, maybe he carpools with 6 other co-workers thus making the mpg/person significantly better than if everybody drove their Toyota Priuses, maybe he hauls recycled material to the local recycling center for his church, etc.
When, at any time in this thread did anybody say that somebody other than themselves needs to do something about the environment? I was making the point that vehicles have other uses, and we should get out of the mindset that anybody who doesn't drive a hybrid is somebody who trashes the environment.
Also, since you kind of went off there, I figure now is the time to educate you that pollution (both air and water) is a world-wide problem, and the emissions of modern vehicles in the US are actually quite low comparatively. If you have X units of time or money to spend on helping the environment, your resources are better put to use helping to fix any number of other more serious issues.
Gun control is one issue that doesn't really fall to party lines. And what specifically makes your neighbor a 'pinko commie liberal'? If one owns a speedboat, you normally need a vehicle large enough to tow it (hence Hummer) - it could have been any large truck/SUV that would be equally fuel in-efficient. Owning a speedboat and a truck doesn't make one not environmentally aware. Uhh, there are more than two parties. Did you?
2 things that I think are being overlooked in this discussion:
1) Optical storage contains a lot of data that would be unaffected by an EMP, and I imagine people would be able to come up with a rudimentry way to read it pretty quickly. Also information stored on paper would be unaffected.
2) I think you overestimate the power of an EMP. An EMP doesn't eliminate the existance of electrons or prevent wires from ever carrying current again. Many basic electric devices could still function or function again with little repair. Also I can't imagine being able to blanket *the world* with a strong enough EMP to destroy everything, something, somewhere, will survive. I bet there are even facilities designed to survive it.
So with the existance of some infrastructure, some reference material and, as previously discussed, the knowledge already being out there, I think we'd rebound fairly quickly.
Your best argument is the one that people would just be trying to survive and it would be chaos without the level of communication that our current society is used to, and with everybody's bank account presumably wiped out.
Exactly, I think I heard Bruce Schneier in a debate where the other guy used the "I've got nothing to hide" argument and Bruce, without missing a beat, asked him how much money he made. The guy was silent and didn't answer. Bruce made the point that surely the man wasn't doing anything wrong by earning a living and providing for his family, so why wouldn't he say what he made? It turns out the guy valued privacy after all.
And better than "how often do you have sex", say "Can I come to your house and watch you have sex with your spouse?". Surely a man and woman acting in procreation aren't doing anything wrong, so why would they mind? Again the answer will most certainly be "no"; again somebody who values their privacy (whether they realize it or not). With enough video surveillance in cities it will be able to be abused and peer into unsuspecting households.
Yeah I figured somebody would take my sarcastic remark and make a rant out of it :)
I sort of agree with you. I agree with the general thought that hours worked is not a (direct) measure of your value to the company, and people who put in fewer hours *can* be more productive than people who put in fewer hours (smokers vs. non-smokers comes to mind, not to start a separate discussion...). I believe, however, that it is more true with regular employees than managers.
For managers, there is more of a perception issue with hours worked. While a manager working 9-5 to the minute or whatever may be an awesome manager who motivates a team well, gets along with everybody, communicates well, etc., that is the rare case. I have some experience with basically the other extreme to your argument - people who have departments that run well, but not because of them (the manager). They normally have some exceptional employees who become the de-facto managers, or a whole team who communicates and performs well, when the real "manager" waltzes in and out of the office whenever they feel like it and does very little, but they tout how good their department is (again, not because of them). Those managers are not respected and will eventually be found out as frauds. So again, while I agree to a point with your argument, one can err to either extreme.
I think hours worked is *one of many* metrics that makes a good manager, but to say that hours worked has little or no bearing on your productivity/value is wrong. I hold to my statement that managers should generally arrive before team members do to begin preparing for the day, given the same shift (obviously not relevant in a 24 hour environment). If anything managers should leave early, not arrive late - you need to be there first thing to set a team on the objectives for the day.
I estimate the Linux userbase somewhere between one and two billion.
OK, now with all the qualifiers out of the way, here's what I do first thing:
- Check voice mail. I will only normally have 1 or 2 at the most unless I've had days off, and I also get voice mails via email so it's likely I already heard it.
- Skim emails. Again I keep tabs on email even when not working so there's not normally a ton of new stuff, but I like to look over all of the emails, delete spam, and read important things first or things I've been waiting to hear back on. This is not when I deal with less important emails or write lengthy emails to people.
- Check monitors / logs. For me this means disk space monitors, MRTG bandwidth reports, backup statuses, etc.
- Check my short-term to-do list, normally created the day or two before that gets updated a couple times per week. Start on a project or delegate a project to a co-worker.
- If I'm in a waiting stage on all of my short term projects (waiting for parts to ship or waiting on a vendor or waiting to hear back from upper management) then I will make an effort to follow up on those items to help move it along (check tracking numbers, send "reminder" emails, etc.).
- If all of the above is taken care of, move on to the long-term project list.
My last comment is that some people have very specific ideas of what an "IT Manager" does or should do. Keep in mind that's a very broad term that will vary from organization to organization, mostly depending on the size. Somebody above made a distinction between an IT Manager and a System Administrator, but when your whole team is two people (like mine) those things don't make much difference. Maybe in some organizations IT managers don't get paged, or don't deal with backups, or whatever, but in smaller organizations the manager is also a staff member.Except that as the manager, you should be there before anybody else so there's nobody to greet yet. Maybe that's the second or third thing that you do...
I have 9 computers in my household, would the bank need to go through every one of them? Or could I just provide one PC, say a freshly loaded BSD box and say that's the one I use? It all goes through the same NAT router, so unless they go through their logs and look at my browser's user-agent (which can be spoofed anyway) they would have no way of knowing.
Hmmm, my version of Safari for Windows says "Version 3", not "0.1". Safari's core browser code has been done and stable for years. Apple has already written Windows apps so they already have many of the interface components. Apple didn't even write their rendering engine. Comparing Safari for Windows to Mozilla Phoenix 0.1 is quite a straw man argument. Well I guess it's typical for a Mac fanboi AC.
How do they even know it's a business card? I have a business card and use it all the time - I provide my name which is on the card and the CC number / expiration / CVV2 code and the card gets charged. Nobody ever knows it's a "business" or "personal" card unless you show it in person and they see the company name on the card.
When I was on DSL VoIP was mostly acceptable but would get choppy like a bad cell phone connection if somebody was browsing the Internet at the same time. I've been on Verizon Fios for almost a year now and Vonage has been rock solid - even when downloading / bittorrenting - I haven't had one issue since changing ISPs. I don't even have the recommended ports opened up in my router that supposedly makes Vonage work better. I assume the main difference is the total available bandwidth (both directions) is much higher with Fios. The DSL was like 3mbps/768kbps so it wasn't even a slow one, but my Fios is 15/2mbps. I've never had Vonage be laggy like you describe though, it would just cut out (sometimes only for one party). What kind of VoIP were you using?
No, I'm not used to it nor does Safari for Windows provide such functionality that you describe. You can only grab the window by the top title bar and menu area. I actually prefer most Linux distros' approach of using a modifier (e.g., Alt) to grab ANYWHERE on a window to move it. Besides, if one has chosen an OS based on the characteristics of that particular OS (in this case, resizable windows from any border), then why would Apple develop a program that specifically goes against such conventions? I thought they were "UI experts"? Sorry if parent Anonymous Coward isn't the same AC as its grandparent (quoted), but I have no way of knowing.
Incorrect in two ways: 1) Browsers will first look for a host (i.e., on your network) named what you typed first, so it's a few second delay before they do anything else. 2) IE actually performs a search for what you type if the host isn't found, it doesn't append the www. and the
My bad, there were so many ones that didn't work I must have gotten mixed up.
No, actually there are many freeware programs that do that.
Thanks for the tip, it does work, sort of. Not that I can really give Safari any credit for it though.
Well that has been the case so far. My "attitude" is pretty open for trying new things and adapting, right now I'm in a dual-boot Linux / Vista system running in an XP VM trying out this new Safari browser and Fx 3 alpha 6. For a company so bent on removing choice from users claiming that their way "just works", Safari has been pretty disappointing. I haven't seen anywhere on the web (blogs, reviews, forum comments, etc) where Safari for Windows has been at all well received, just a bunch of Mac fanbois trying to defend the Mac way in a place where it doesn't belong. I hope Safari for Windows does solve some of these problems, it is needed as a development tool and I'm all for anything to help take market share away from IE and promote web standards, but it's not really a usable product as it stands now.
I will give you two things that I think are slick in Safari though - resizable text areas, and the highlighting to draw your attention the active form input and text search.