b4k3d b34nz, your response was stunningly eloquent and theologically correct! I currently attend a christian university and one thing that is pounded into us from day-one is CIE (context is everything).
The problem most people face when encountering the Bible is, like you said, they do not account for the historical context. In a theological course I am taking right now there are two words that came up during lecuture: exegesis and isegesis.
Exegesis - out of the text. Meaning, read the text as it is written and as it is meant to be read.
Isegesis - into the text. This describes the inverse of exegesis, people read their own values into the text, interpreting it falsely.
What many people do not realize is that scholars approach the Bible as if it were any other historical text (i.e. homer's iliad). They would not read these ancient manuscripts and put their own bias into the text, nor would you do that if you were reading a modern novel; you read it as it was written and meant to be read. Agreed, many many christians use the Bible to advance their own agendas or personal theologies. My opinion is that one whould be shown all of the argments and interpretations and be allowed to judge for themself what is the original intent of the particular passage.
Additionally, the American constitution deals with the same controversy of people adding their own isegesis to the document. They put their own values into the interpretation instead of taking into consideration the historical context and political climate of the time of its creation. That's why we have the whole extreme separation of church and state; nowhere in the bill of rights does it say there should be a separation of church and state. It was the intention of the document to prohibit a federally sponsored denomonation that suppressed other sects. This was the view up until 1948 when the US supreme court decided to force their own opinions into the bill of rights, thus stating the "separation clause" and the "establishment clause".
This later led to the abolition of prayer in public schools, ironically public schools are state funded institutions whom aren't subject to the separation clause. The reason for that is it is not unconstitutional for a state gov't to promote a state religion, the only reason they remain in-step with the federal gov't is because of the enormous subsidies provided.
I am merely stating facts, it is not my intent to have my religion forced down the throats of unwilling recipients. Inversely, I do not wish the popular areligious/atheistic view of evolution to be forced down my throat either. This is why a balanced presentation of both sides should be allowed in the public schools letting the students choose for themselves. I also assert that public prayer in school should be allowed for those students whom opt-in for the practice, accomodations can be easily made for the obvious atheistic minority whom wish to not take part. Adding commenary to the previous statement, yes, atheists are the minority. Over 33% of the world is christian and according to the cia world factbook Protestants are 52% and Roman Catholics are 24% of the population; this makes the US population 76% christian.
Agreed eldavojohn, but I think the whole part about the government getting carried away is the wrong way to put it. Like ezzzD55J said, "they are, in fact, already carried all the way."
Furthermore, its more than just merely getting carried away, you can actually call it a concerted effort. In a document called revolution of military affairs put out by the US army war college in, i think, 1989 (not sure tho), the army outlines how the government could instill an environment of fear by creating an illusion of danger with things like terrorism. This was being discussed in the context of how the military could use next-gen energy weapons (ie. high powered radio frequency to affect the environment and people: weather modification, mind control, population control. All of which is openly documented in American and EU legislation and has been) without the public getting all freaked out. The idea was that if they instill this sense of fear and doom in the hearts and minds of the masses then they would readily lay down their liberties in exchange for protection. I guess they accomplished their goal, ie the patriot act. You think these technologies I speak of dont exist, think again... I'll cite two sources: one from the U.S. House of representatives and another from the E.U. Parliament.
1. "Space Preservation Act of 2001" by Rep. Dennis Kucinich -> Look for HR 2977 (look under "exotic weapons")
2. EU resolution A4-0005/99 resolution on security disarmament (specifically, note item 30 of this document)
For a bureaucratic body, like the EU parliament, it takes a tremendous amount of proof and documentation for them to evem to even give any thought to including such wording in their resolutions. The inclusion of item 30 was a direct result of a demonstration of an infrasound device that (creates a low frequency sound) has the resulting effect of sound information being sent into the nervous system where you can percieve that voice in the head.
Similarly, the EU resolution mentions an american project called HAARP. If you do a google search, 20 seconds is all it'll take to get the gist of what it's about.
We're talking about some very serious stuff, as admirable the efforts of the ACLU are, it's doubtful they'll have much of an effect. If the EU can't get the US to cease and desist, i'm sure some pittly civil rights organization will accomplish much except drive the offenders deeper and deepr into "black ops" status. It's not possible to fess up to this kind of stuff either because the potential liability would be too much to deal with. Anyone with a runny nose will be suing the government for their ills.
I think you're right, my assumption would be that the board of directors and the executives would get in trouble first. Plus, how could you fine shareholders, especially the ones without voting rights (common stock)??
LOL, although your comment is funny I am still inclined to agree with Dr. Eggman. Humanity is rather resilient and has an aweful bad habbit of surviving. I mean, humans have existed on every continent in the world, albiet we might have difficulty at first, eventually we adapt rather nicely. If we can devise imaginitive ways of surviving a nuclear holocaust I am quite certain we can do the same with a MINI ice age. I mean, the worst that could happen is we experience a period of depopulation, but by no means should we expect the extermination of our race. If people can survive an icelandic winter then i'm pretty sure we can survive a mini ice age.
A couple years ago I heard this guy on the radio saying that based on archaeological evidence the earth has a natural cycle that regularly puts the earth into a mini ice age every several hundred years. For example, a history teacher I once had said that in the 1500's when the spanish were exploring up the coast of california they noticed the costal mountains had snow on them, thus calling them Sierra Nevada. Well, anyone from california will tell you that snow does not occur on the costal mountains. Other historical documents tell about crop failure and famine in northern europe during some of the years of the mini-ice age. So this is really nothing new, it's just new to us because now we have the technological equipment to monitor such changes.
My aunt used to work for this israeli company called actelis who was pioneering an algorithm that would allow fiber speeds to be achieved over existing copper. It was somehow, with a piece of hardware about the size of a microwave, able to reduce the number of errored packets transmitted, improving the efficiency. On the other hand I've also read about a technology called DWDM (Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing [protocol]) which allows each wavelength of light (aka each color) to be it's own data channel on the same fiber line. With this protocol they estimate a single fiber optic wire could transmit 2 GB of data per second. Not sure why it hasn't been widely accepted yet.
This kind of thing is not likely to stand up in court. Spyware has been proven to be a malicious type of software that voilates one's privacy, therefore I would be shocked if the courts find in favor of the spyware maker. The spyware maker might have thought it was clever adding that clause in their EULA, but essentially what they've stipulated was people cannot investigate how their software works in order to prevent it's unwanted installation on to one's system. Not likely to stand up in court.
I would love to see a state by state analysis of the United States because I am from California and I would have to say that almost everyone I know uses firefox, and that is no exaggeration. I am originally from northern california and I am currently attending college in southern california and Its all the same, from my perspective I rarely see anyone using internet explorer anymore.
Does anyone have the same experience?
yeah, but what about all the freely available libraries out there on sites like sourceforge that can be easily used instead of proprietary ones. And if there isn't a community of developers out there developing open source versions of proprietary libraries, why is that? Would that not constitute a respectable open source community for the windows platform?
I disagree, if he really wanted to take the fight to those little green bastards he'd just send a volley of nukes and be done with it. I mean, he'd have done that to iran, north korea, etc. if he could have. But seeing how there's no political pressure coming from mars he has nothing standing in his way, its not likely the martians are supporting his "new world order" goals. The only thing a consolidated one-world-government would do is making conquoring earth more difficult for the Martians.
I say we send midget spies to infiltrate their society and cause distruction from within!!!!
That's right, this is because if they (corporations) screw up they're not going to get another contract from NASA for billions of dollars. There isn't any incentive for NASA to do things right...Well, its either that or the huge bureaucracy has complicated things which has lead to less efficiency, thus making error more likely.
See, its popular nowadays for people to talk about corporate corruption, totally ignoring the fact that there is more honesty and integrity in the corporate world's pinky finger than in all of government. People let the actions of a few bad apples dictate their view of everything "capitalsit." Government corporate subsidies have caused way more problems than would have occured if the corporations were left to fend for themselves. Government creates an artificial environment because companies that might not have survived if left to their own devices have seemingly remained in existence due to government hand-outs. When it comes to corporations, I say survival of the fittest, of course as long as they stay within the reasonable constraints of the law.
Proof again that when left to the responsibility of the government, they do things best. Then again, the martians could have taken it! Someday those little green bastards are going to get a knuckle sandwich.
Yeah, like they're doing us a favor by letting us BUY their products! I guess they'd just much rather have us pirate the music and forget all about paying for it. Maybe they dont realize that if we dont go and buy a DRM version of their songs we can just as easily acquire them via p2p like limewire, torrent, and (my personal favorite) russian music sites.
In my personal experience, I have downloaded only one single DRM'd song in my entire life and have found it to be over priced and completely useless. It just sits in a folder on my computer because I already have acquired a non-DRM'd version, but I just dont have the heart to delete it (cus i payed for it). Furthermore, an additional reason I cannot use the song is because it's DRM requires napster and that has been uninstalled for a long time.
They have had these crowd control devices for a few years now and had deployed them in new york to control the anti-war protesters during the 2004 republican convention. But what is not very well known is the fact that these same weapons were and are being used by the military in iraq against the enemy! The militarization of our police forces is what really has me worried....I saw the exact same device shown in the article's pictures in a Alex Jones documentary..
You know what would be waaaaay more logical than putting rf plates on cars to control their speed?? Implement the opposite of that, allow the automobile to read an rfid of the posted speed limit and use software to force the car to slow to the correct speed. I would prefer that then being monitored everywhere I go. "Oh, you dont want to be monitored? What are you doing that is so wrong that you dont want the government to know about?" I think i'm reiterating what every single person on this site has been saying... The Government should be a subject of the people, the government IS the people. The people should never feel like the government is looking over their shoulder, but then again our U.S. republic vanished long ago and it is quickly being replaced with what is termed the "New World Order"...... Wake up people, www.infowars.com
That's a valid point, but what happens when the government refuses to relinquish the powers granted to them via martial law? How do you take down a modern government equipped with extremely advanced electronic survailance equipment and other tools used to wage a non-lethal war? I suggest you take a look at infowars.com.. The evidence they produce is very difficult to refute. The guy (alex jones) has made several documentaries (damning for the govt.) that are laiden with conclusive and irrefutable evidence regarding this topic.
I agree with most of what local man says except I believe we are much closer to a war waged on the populus than you might think. It will be out of a climate of preservance than out right dictatorial aspirations. What I mean by that is our planet is in for some tough times ahead due to our inability to continue oil production at it's current rate. A decrease in production equals economic depression (unless a viable substitute is implemented). As a way to protect the population from rioting, etc. the government will wage a war of control and domination in order to minimize the effects of civil unrest. Keep your eyes' open, you'll be bombarded by fear from the media (even moreso than now) and an increased police presence. Who knows what else they have planned...
j1m+5n0w, you are correct and conservatives still hold those values. I think where people get confused is they automatically associate conservative with republican, which is no longer the case. The differences between republicans and democrats are getting fewer and fewer. Contrasting, one party is more militant and the other is apologetic. One party supports a few conservative christian values, only as long as it suits their agenda and keeps them in power, whereas the other party is honest about their views and supports no conservative christian values whatsoever. When money becomes your god it really doesn't matter where you stand politically... I guess that's the NEW American way.
I used Openoffice a while back but switched over to abiword. I loved Abiword and used it for some months, but the more I used it I found it to be glitchy and was not as reliable as Openoffice..so I switched back.
Unfortunately, I was recently forced to use MS Office because Openoffice wasn't rendering a DOC file correctly while I was working on a group project for one of my classes. I'm not a big fan of Openoffice's excell equivalent, certain aspects are less intuitive than excell, and I found it impossible to copy graphs from excell to Write. Even if I opened a DOC (created in MS WORD) in Openoffice that contained graphs, things did not turn out right. The graphs were unreadable and didn't render as they do in MS Word.
I am not putting any fault on the part of the folks at Openoffice.org, but the reality is the world is a DOC world and Openoffice has difficulty with those file types. When it comes down to it I'm an Open Source advocate and 90% of the applications are OSS.....the only closed source programs I have 'purchased' are certain games(ie. hl2,doom3,farcry). I don't see any point in purchasing software when you have equal or superior Open Source alternatives.
Acually, smoany, in an effort to be even MORE correct, you might be wrong in one way. I live in Livermore, CA and it is home to not one, but TWO national laboratories; LNLL and Sandia National Laboratories. Although, LNLL and Los Alamos might do some collaborative work, Sandia, in fact, is Los Alamos' sister Lab. Now, I'm not sure on all the details, but if I had to make an educated guess I'd assume that you meant Sandia Lab in Livermore, CA. Check this out, you'll notice that the two labs are separated by east avenue, LNLL is much larger in size. Sandia is below LNLL on the map. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=livermore,+ca&ll=37. 679737,-121.707165&spn=0.010364,0.015664&t=k&hl=en
I wish people would read EVERYTHING I write in a statement before commenting. By taking some of what I say out of context you're raising a debate out of something I never said in the first place. As for the patriot act, there are definitely some things in it that I believe to be unconstitutional. Regarding the left/right issue, I guess the republicans are just taking a more direct approach to what the democrats desire in the first place. Social programs are one of the cornerstones of liberal ideology, simply put, such programs are systems of control masked as devices to benefit the population. Take welfare for example, people on it see the democratic party as the only force that desires to maintain their lifestyle, this is why you have generation after generation of people who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of people dependent on welfare (largely democrat). Of course you have exceptions, but that's not the point i was making.
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b4k3d b34nz, your response was stunningly eloquent and theologically correct! I currently attend a christian university and one thing that is pounded into us from day-one is CIE (context is everything).
The problem most people face when encountering the Bible is, like you said, they do not account for the historical context. In a theological course I am taking right now there are two words that came up during lecuture: exegesis and isegesis.
Exegesis - out of the text. Meaning, read the text as it is written and as it is meant to be read.
Isegesis - into the text. This describes the inverse of exegesis, people read their own values into the text, interpreting it falsely.
What many people do not realize is that scholars approach the Bible as if it were any other historical text (i.e. homer's iliad). They would not read these ancient manuscripts and put their own bias into the text, nor would you do that if you were reading a modern novel; you read it as it was written and meant to be read. Agreed, many many christians use the Bible to advance their own agendas or personal theologies. My opinion is that one whould be shown all of the argments and interpretations and be allowed to judge for themself what is the original intent of the particular passage.
Additionally, the American constitution deals with the same controversy of people adding their own isegesis to the document. They put their own values into the interpretation instead of taking into consideration the historical context and political climate of the time of its creation. That's why we have the whole extreme separation of church and state; nowhere in the bill of rights does it say there should be a separation of church and state. It was the intention of the document to prohibit a federally sponsored denomonation that suppressed other sects. This was the view up until 1948 when the US supreme court decided to force their own opinions into the bill of rights, thus stating the "separation clause" and the "establishment clause". This later led to the abolition of prayer in public schools, ironically public schools are state funded institutions whom aren't subject to the separation clause. The reason for that is it is not unconstitutional for a state gov't to promote a state religion, the only reason they remain in-step with the federal gov't is because of the enormous subsidies provided.
I am merely stating facts, it is not my intent to have my religion forced down the throats of unwilling recipients. Inversely, I do not wish the popular areligious/atheistic view of evolution to be forced down my throat either. This is why a balanced presentation of both sides should be allowed in the public schools letting the students choose for themselves. I also assert that public prayer in school should be allowed for those students whom opt-in for the practice, accomodations can be easily made for the obvious atheistic minority whom wish to not take part.
Adding commenary to the previous statement, yes, atheists are the minority. Over 33% of the world is christian and according to the cia world factbook Protestants are 52% and Roman Catholics are 24% of the population; this makes the US population 76% christian.
I would say that is an overwhelming majority.
Agreed eldavojohn, but I think the whole part about the government getting carried away is the wrong way to put it. Like ezzzD55J said, "they are, in fact, already carried all the way."
Furthermore, its more than just merely getting carried away, you can actually call it a concerted effort. In a document called revolution of military affairs put out by the US army war college in, i think, 1989 (not sure tho), the army outlines how the government could instill an environment of fear by creating an illusion of danger with things like terrorism. This was being discussed in the context of how the military could use next-gen energy weapons (ie. high powered radio frequency to affect the environment and people: weather modification, mind control, population control. All of which is openly documented in American and EU legislation and has been) without the public getting all freaked out. The idea was that if they instill this sense of fear and doom in the hearts and minds of the masses then they would readily lay down their liberties in exchange for protection. I guess they accomplished their goal, ie the patriot act. You think these technologies I speak of dont exist, think again... I'll cite two sources: one from the U.S. House of representatives and another from the E.U. Parliament.
1. "Space Preservation Act of 2001" by Rep. Dennis Kucinich -> Look for HR 2977 (look under "exotic weapons")
2. EU resolution A4-0005/99 resolution on security disarmament (specifically, note item 30 of this document)
For a bureaucratic body, like the EU parliament, it takes a tremendous amount of proof and documentation for them to evem to even give any thought to including such wording in their resolutions. The inclusion of item 30 was a direct result of a demonstration of an infrasound device that (creates a low frequency sound) has the resulting effect of sound information being sent into the nervous system where you can percieve that voice in the head.
Similarly, the EU resolution mentions an american project called HAARP. If you do a google search, 20 seconds is all it'll take to get the gist of what it's about.
We're talking about some very serious stuff, as admirable the efforts of the ACLU are, it's doubtful they'll have much of an effect. If the EU can't get the US to cease and desist, i'm sure some pittly civil rights organization will accomplish much except drive the offenders deeper and deepr into "black ops" status. It's not possible to fess up to this kind of stuff either because the potential liability would be too much to deal with. Anyone with a runny nose will be suing the government for their ills.
I think you're right, my assumption would be that the board of directors and the executives would get in trouble first. Plus, how could you fine shareholders, especially the ones without voting rights (common stock)??
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LOL, although your comment is funny I am still inclined to agree with Dr. Eggman. Humanity is rather resilient and has an aweful bad habbit of surviving. I mean, humans have existed on every continent in the world, albiet we might have difficulty at first, eventually we adapt rather nicely. If we can devise imaginitive ways of surviving a nuclear holocaust I am quite certain we can do the same with a MINI ice age. I mean, the worst that could happen is we experience a period of depopulation, but by no means should we expect the extermination of our race. If people can survive an icelandic winter then i'm pretty sure we can survive a mini ice age.
A couple years ago I heard this guy on the radio saying that based on archaeological evidence the earth has a natural cycle that regularly puts the earth into a mini ice age every several hundred years. For example, a history teacher I once had said that in the 1500's when the spanish were exploring up the coast of california they noticed the costal mountains had snow on them, thus calling them Sierra Nevada. Well, anyone from california will tell you that snow does not occur on the costal mountains. Other historical documents tell about crop failure and famine in northern europe during some of the years of the mini-ice age. So this is really nothing new, it's just new to us because now we have the technological equipment to monitor such changes.
My aunt used to work for this israeli company called actelis who was pioneering an algorithm that would allow fiber speeds to be achieved over existing copper. It was somehow, with a piece of hardware about the size of a microwave, able to reduce the number of errored packets transmitted, improving the efficiency. On the other hand I've also read about a technology called DWDM (Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing [protocol]) which allows each wavelength of light (aka each color) to be it's own data channel on the same fiber line. With this protocol they estimate a single fiber optic wire could transmit 2 GB of data per second. Not sure why it hasn't been widely accepted yet.
This kind of thing is not likely to stand up in court. Spyware has been proven to be a malicious type of software that voilates one's privacy, therefore I would be shocked if the courts find in favor of the spyware maker. The spyware maker might have thought it was clever adding that clause in their EULA, but essentially what they've stipulated was people cannot investigate how their software works in order to prevent it's unwanted installation on to one's system. Not likely to stand up in court.
I would love to see a state by state analysis of the United States because I am from California and I would have to say that almost everyone I know uses firefox, and that is no exaggeration. I am originally from northern california and I am currently attending college in southern california and Its all the same, from my perspective I rarely see anyone using internet explorer anymore. Does anyone have the same experience?
yeah, but what about all the freely available libraries out there on sites like sourceforge that can be easily used instead of proprietary ones. And if there isn't a community of developers out there developing open source versions of proprietary libraries, why is that? Would that not constitute a respectable open source community for the windows platform?
I disagree, if he really wanted to take the fight to those little green bastards he'd just send a volley of nukes and be done with it. I mean, he'd have done that to iran, north korea, etc. if he could have. But seeing how there's no political pressure coming from mars he has nothing standing in his way, its not likely the martians are supporting his "new world order" goals. The only thing a consolidated one-world-government would do is making conquoring earth more difficult for the Martians.
I say we send midget spies to infiltrate their society and cause distruction from within!!!!
That's right, this is because if they (corporations) screw up they're not going to get another contract from NASA for billions of dollars. There isn't any incentive for NASA to do things right...Well, its either that or the huge bureaucracy has complicated things which has lead to less efficiency, thus making error more likely.
See, its popular nowadays for people to talk about corporate corruption, totally ignoring the fact that there is more honesty and integrity in the corporate world's pinky finger than in all of government. People let the actions of a few bad apples dictate their view of everything "capitalsit." Government corporate subsidies have caused way more problems than would have occured if the corporations were left to fend for themselves. Government creates an artificial environment because companies that might not have survived if left to their own devices have seemingly remained in existence due to government hand-outs. When it comes to corporations, I say survival of the fittest, of course as long as they stay within the reasonable constraints of the law.
Proof again that when left to the responsibility of the government, they do things best. Then again, the martians could have taken it! Someday those little green bastards are going to get a knuckle sandwich.
Yeah, like they're doing us a favor by letting us BUY their products! I guess they'd just much rather have us pirate the music and forget all about paying for it. Maybe they dont realize that if we dont go and buy a DRM version of their songs we can just as easily acquire them via p2p like limewire, torrent, and (my personal favorite) russian music sites.
In my personal experience, I have downloaded only one single DRM'd song in my entire life and have found it to be over priced and completely useless. It just sits in a folder on my computer because I already have acquired a non-DRM'd version, but I just dont have the heart to delete it (cus i payed for it). Furthermore, an additional reason I cannot use the song is because it's DRM requires napster and that has been uninstalled for a long time.
They have had these crowd control devices for a few years now and had deployed them in new york to control the anti-war protesters during the 2004 republican convention. But what is not very well known is the fact that these same weapons were and are being used by the military in iraq against the enemy! The militarization of our police forces is what really has me worried....I saw the exact same device shown in the article's pictures in a Alex Jones documentary..
Source: infowars.com
You know what would be waaaaay more logical than putting rf plates on cars to control their speed?? Implement the opposite of that, allow the automobile to read an rfid of the posted speed limit and use software to force the car to slow to the correct speed. I would prefer that then being monitored everywhere I go. ...... Wake up people, www.infowars.com
"Oh, you dont want to be monitored? What are you doing that is so wrong that you dont want the government to know about?" I think i'm reiterating what every single person on this site has been saying... The Government should be a subject of the people, the government IS the people. The people should never feel like the government is looking over their shoulder, but then again our U.S. republic vanished long ago and it is quickly being replaced with what is termed the "New World Order"
That's a valid point, but what happens when the government refuses to relinquish the powers granted to them via martial law? How do you take down a modern government equipped with extremely advanced electronic survailance equipment and other tools used to wage a non-lethal war? I suggest you take a look at infowars.com.. The evidence they produce is very difficult to refute. The guy (alex jones) has made several documentaries (damning for the govt.) that are laiden with conclusive and irrefutable evidence regarding this topic.
I agree with most of what local man says except I believe we are much closer to a war waged on the populus than you might think. It will be out of a climate of preservance than out right dictatorial aspirations. What I mean by that is our planet is in for some tough times ahead due to our inability to continue oil production at it's current rate. A decrease in production equals economic depression (unless a viable substitute is implemented). As a way to protect the population from rioting, etc. the government will wage a war of control and domination in order to minimize the effects of civil unrest. Keep your eyes' open, you'll be bombarded by fear from the media (even moreso than now) and an increased police presence. Who knows what else they have planned...
you wouldn't know that by looking at pop culture
j1m+5n0w, you are correct and conservatives still hold those values. I think where people get confused is they automatically associate conservative with republican, which is no longer the case. The differences between republicans and democrats are getting fewer and fewer. Contrasting, one party is more militant and the other is apologetic. One party supports a few conservative christian values, only as long as it suits their agenda and keeps them in power, whereas the other party is honest about their views and supports no conservative christian values whatsoever. When money becomes your god it really doesn't matter where you stand politically... I guess that's the NEW American way.
I used Openoffice a while back but switched over to abiword. I loved Abiword and used it for some months, but the more I used it I found it to be glitchy and was not as reliable as Openoffice..so I switched back.
Unfortunately, I was recently forced to use MS Office because Openoffice wasn't rendering a DOC file correctly while I was working on a group project for one of my classes. I'm not a big fan of Openoffice's excell equivalent, certain aspects are less intuitive than excell, and I found it impossible to copy graphs from excell to Write. Even if I opened a DOC (created in MS WORD) in Openoffice that contained graphs, things did not turn out right. The graphs were unreadable and didn't render as they do in MS Word.
I am not putting any fault on the part of the folks at Openoffice.org, but the reality is the world is a DOC world and Openoffice has difficulty with those file types. When it comes down to it I'm an Open Source advocate and 90% of the applications are OSS.....the only closed source programs I have 'purchased' are certain games(ie. hl2,doom3,farcry). I don't see any point in purchasing software when you have equal or superior Open Source alternatives.
Acually, smoany, in an effort to be even MORE correct, you might be wrong in one way. I live in Livermore, CA and it is home to not one, but TWO national laboratories; LNLL and Sandia National Laboratories. Although, LNLL and Los Alamos might do some collaborative work, Sandia, in fact, is Los Alamos' sister Lab. Now, I'm not sure on all the details, but if I had to make an educated guess I'd assume that you meant Sandia Lab in Livermore, CA. Check this out, you'll notice that the two labs are separated by east avenue, LNLL is much larger in size. Sandia is below LNLL on the map. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=livermore,+ca&ll=37. 679737,-121.707165&spn=0.010364,0.015664&t=k&hl=en
Hmm, Cringely thinks he's such an original forward thinker. He must have read my post on June 3rdc id=12 721459)
(http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=151621&
before writing this article. Score: 1 me - 0 Cringley!!
I wish people would read EVERYTHING I write in a statement before commenting. By taking some of what I say out of context you're raising a debate out of something I never said in the first place. As for the patriot act, there are definitely some things in it that I believe to be unconstitutional. Regarding the left/right issue, I guess the republicans are just taking a more direct approach to what the democrats desire in the first place. Social programs are one of the cornerstones of liberal ideology, simply put, such programs are systems of control masked as devices to benefit the population. Take welfare for example, people on it see the democratic party as the only force that desires to maintain their lifestyle, this is why you have generation after generation of people who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of people dependent on welfare (largely democrat). Of course you have exceptions, but that's not the point i was making.
Haha, you guys must've missed what I was saying...I was being sarcastic..trying to make the exact point you more clearly stated.