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You're confusing gui-based management with gui-based application building. That's what access can do. Someone who is stricly a power user, not a programmer, can build a simple access application. Whether they should or not is another story, because IT dept. usually gets called in when it can't scale beyond 10 users and it's become completely critical to the business.
Of course, it's possible to just like the Access front end to a real relational DB serrver on the backend, but this usually isn't done.
Of those you listed, I would say only Oracle has similar tools (I forget the name), and they are nowhere near as easy to use.
Dude, I've been to busch gardens, and it was just me. I can make myself invisble thru my mind powers. I sneak in at nite, scarf all the free beer, then pass out on the bench. When I sleep, my subconcious has trouble staying invisible, and I kinda fade in and out from view. But as soon as someone comes near, I start to wake up, make myself invisible again, and hence, fade from view. (then I go back to my usual home, at the sorrority house).
Hope this clears things up! Sorry to cause any trouble!
I would agree that ROR is better if you are making an application and database from scratch. Retrofitting to an old db is harder. I experimented at first with my DB design, but ditched it in favor of "the rails way" because the db schema was version 0.2 at best anyway, and had no data in it. If you follow the rails naming conventions the active record stuff "just works" and the object to db mapping is transparent, for the most part.
I would also agree that Ruby is a pretty nice language, with pretty good support.
I've done both, although the rails app was very small. What he means is (if I can speak for the OP) is that ROR encourages good MVC design because that's the simplest way to get things done. VB, on the other hand (particularly vb6, which had limited OO options), pretty much let you do whatever you wanted, no matter how bad it was.
It was a lot of WORK to get a decently architected application that was easy to modify/maintain in VB6 (I have little experience with.net, so I'm not speaking to that). Contrary to some, it was possible, but it was hard. Conversely, it was pretty easy to put together complete crap that was hard to maintain, wouldn't scale well, etc.
With ROR, designing something crappy is hard. Putting bussines logic in the view is hard, etc. , etc.
well, if it makes you feel any better, your post made my morning with a good, solid laugh.
I still use Oracle a little, but at my last job (a U.S. gov't agency). It was all Oracle -- Database, app server (yuck), workflow, persistence framework for java, etc. Man, I recognize those steps all too well. There docs are horrible. I don't think it's malicious, but I don't see how a company that derives significant revenue from selling consulting services making it's own products work would have much interest in writing clear documentation (or making there product easy to use, for that matter).
I never forget getting several java samples from a lenghty, fairly well written white paper that WOULDN'T COMPILE! Not classpath errors, but syntax ones. That's brutal. Also, there web site looks like something someone threw together in 1998 with FrontPage.
Don't get me wrong, Oracle is a GREAT database, however.
yeah, it sounds like there "web client" sucks. If you have local acess to to the box (or remote), it's really no big deal.
I guess it's a mindset thing. I've had a LOT of trouble in the open source world of finding authoritative answers to questions. Google helps, but oftentimes I've found documents that were misleading, didn't apply to the versions they said it did, etc (I recall distintcly reading a Tomcat article that said it should apply to the version I was using, but in the end, didn't. The author just "assumed" it would. Wheras with Microsoft's stuff, at least it says what version it applies to...
Anyway, I think we can all agree that Oracle's documentation blows monkey balls:)
what? Look, there are LEGITIMATE gripes against Microsoft's practices, but documentation simply isn't one of them. I'm assuming you have the sql client installed in your local machine? (why wouldn't you, but if not, fine, remote desktop to the server). Start -Programs -SQL Server - books online is your gateway too the entire set of sql server documentation. Locally, on your hard drive. on the index is "administering sql server", expand, there's a whole chapter on backing up and restoring databases. Incidentally, if you can't figure out it's under "administering.." you can go to index and type "backup" Or go to msdn.microsoft.com, search sql server 2000 backup (I took the liberty of assuming a version) and select the 2nd hit "http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url =/library/en-us/architec/8_ar_aa_9iw5.asp" for "backup and restore architecture".
For that matter, there is a TON of sql server articles/resources online. I see no qualitative results in the first few hits to a google search for "mysql backup" and "sql server 2000 backup"
FYI: I know from personal experience you don't have to restore a backup one table at a time. Backup and restore of entire database (or several databases) is a simple, point and click, follow the wizard set of dialog boxes. (although you can script it if you wish).
everyone will jump on you, but it's an easy to use gui that a business person can whip up an app in, and a low level programmer can program the trickier bits in VBA. If you want it on top of a "real" database, it's pretty easy with new Access versions to have the back end be SQL Server instead of access. Theoretically, I think you could use another database with ODBC?
sorry. Misunderstood your point. I thought you charged EXTRA for the ie compatibility over the standards version.
I agree, from my old days of dooing such freelance work that clients are happier with an itemized bill versus "45 hours programming/design @ $xx per hour"
went out after about an hour and a half. 88 versus AK. I'm due to lose coin flips. I won about six in a row to finish 16th of 980 in the same tourney a week earlier.
I have a database with 30,000 hands and everything is pretty much inline with what I should get dealt, given that sample size. There are programs that save your hand histories. LIke others have said, I'm much more worried about collusion.
(Playing the Pokerstars $20 NL tourney with 1170 other players right now )
Look, I LIKE open source, but you can't deny it's taken away from some programming jobs. How's the market for IDE's? Is Borland selling many copies of Jbuilder these days? Why would they? Eclipse is a GREAT IDE, with a million plugins extensions and it's free!
These are the kind of developers that drive me nuts. They are purists who seem unaware that there are other, valid ways of writing code than theirs. Who seem unwilling to admit that it is RESULTS, not design patterns, that matter.
apparently party recenty started challenging some players to do the "type this word" thing that is and obfuscated graphic.. there was a thread on twoplustwo.com the other day...
hmmm, you mean like Microsoft. I have a game from them (ages of empires 2) that explicitly checks for membership in the group "administrators". You can't security audit, find the permissions it needs, and grant them.
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You're confusing gui-based management with gui-based application building. That's what access can do. Someone who is stricly a power user, not a programmer, can build a simple access application. Whether they should or not is another story, because IT dept. usually gets called in when it can't scale beyond 10 users and it's become completely critical to the business.
Of course, it's possible to just like the Access front end to a real relational DB serrver on the backend, but this usually isn't done.
Of those you listed, I would say only Oracle has similar tools (I forget the name), and they are nowhere near as easy to use.
Dude, I've been to busch gardens, and it was just me. I can make myself invisble thru my mind powers. I sneak in at nite, scarf all the free beer, then pass out on the bench. When I sleep, my subconcious has trouble staying invisible, and I kinda fade in and out from view. But as soon as someone comes near, I start to wake up, make myself invisible again, and hence, fade from view. (then I go back to my usual home, at the sorrority house).
Hope this clears things up! Sorry to cause any trouble!
that is very good to know... fixing to buy AOE 3 and my son killed the AOE2 disk (one of the few games i didn't bother getting the cd crack for).
I don't think that works with the freaky copy protection schemes, just as using a cd-copy program doesn't work (it detects it's not the original).
The best way to understand the ROR approach is to do what I did, spend an hour or two working through the tutorial. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/01/20/rail s.html
I would agree that ROR is better if you are making an application and database from scratch. Retrofitting to an old db is harder. I experimented at first with my DB design, but ditched it in favor of "the rails way" because the db schema was version 0.2 at best anyway, and had no data in it. If you follow the rails naming conventions the active record stuff "just works" and the object to db mapping is transparent, for the most part.
I would also agree that Ruby is a pretty nice language, with pretty good support.
I've done both, although the rails app was very small. What he means is (if I can speak for the OP) is that ROR encourages good MVC design because that's the simplest way to get things done. VB, on the other hand (particularly vb6, which had limited OO options), pretty much let you do whatever you wanted, no matter how bad it was.
.net, so I'm not speaking to that). Contrary to some, it was possible, but it was hard. Conversely, it was pretty easy to put together complete crap that was hard to maintain, wouldn't scale well, etc.
It was a lot of WORK to get a decently architected application that was easy to modify/maintain in VB6 (I have little experience with
With ROR, designing something crappy is hard. Putting bussines logic in the view is hard, etc. , etc.
...because he has a life? ... Oh, wait, I was supposed to take the high road. So much for that resolution.
well, if it makes you feel any better, your post made my morning with a good, solid laugh.
I still use Oracle a little, but at my last job (a U.S. gov't agency). It was all Oracle -- Database, app server (yuck), workflow, persistence framework for java, etc. Man, I recognize those steps all too well. There docs are horrible. I don't think it's malicious, but I don't see how a company that derives significant revenue from selling consulting services making it's own products work would have much interest in writing clear documentation (or making there product easy to use, for that matter).
I never forget getting several java samples from a lenghty, fairly well written white paper that WOULDN'T COMPILE! Not classpath errors, but syntax ones. That's brutal. Also, there web site looks like something someone threw together in 1998 with FrontPage.
Don't get me wrong, Oracle is a GREAT database, however.
yeah, it sounds like there "web client" sucks. If you have local acess to to the box (or remote), it's really no big deal.
:)
I guess it's a mindset thing. I've had a LOT of trouble in the open source world of finding authoritative answers to questions. Google helps, but oftentimes I've found documents that were misleading, didn't apply to the versions they said it did, etc (I recall distintcly reading a Tomcat article that said it should apply to the version I was using, but in the end, didn't. The author just "assumed" it would. Wheras with Microsoft's stuff, at least it says what version it applies to...
Anyway, I think we can all agree that Oracle's documentation blows monkey balls
what? Look, there are LEGITIMATE gripes against Microsoft's practices, but documentation simply isn't one of them. I'm assuming you have the sql client installed in your local machine? (why wouldn't you, but if not, fine, remote desktop to the server). Start -Programs -SQL Server - books online is your gateway too the entire set of sql server documentation. Locally, on your hard drive. on the index is "administering sql server", expand, there's a whole chapter on backing up and restoring databases. Incidentally, if you can't figure out it's under "administering.." you can go to index and type "backup" Or go to msdn.microsoft.com, search sql server 2000 backup (I took the liberty of assuming a version) and select the 2nd hit "http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url =/library/en-us/architec/8_ar_aa_9iw5.asp" for "backup and restore architecture".
For that matter, there is a TON of sql server articles/resources online. I see no qualitative results in the first few hits to a google search for "mysql backup" and "sql server 2000 backup"
FYI: I know from personal experience you don't have to restore a backup one table at a time. Backup and restore of entire database (or several databases) is a simple, point and click, follow the wizard set of dialog boxes. (although you can script it if you wish).
everyone will jump on you, but it's an easy to use gui that a business person can whip up an app in, and a low level programmer can program the trickier bits in VBA. If you want it on top of a "real" database, it's pretty easy with new Access versions to have the back end be SQL Server instead of access. Theoretically, I think you could use another database with ODBC?
I LOVE my replay tv. And personally, I think it's interface is nicer than tivos. I've used my in laws tivo and I hate it.
That said, I'd like to build a mythTV box.
sorry. Misunderstood your point. I thought you charged EXTRA for the ie compatibility over the standards version.
I agree, from my old days of dooing such freelance work that clients are happier with an itemized bill versus "45 hours programming/design @ $xx per hour"
i'm guessing his client resell rate isn't real high :)
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A classic.
went out after about an hour and a half. 88 versus AK. I'm due to lose coin flips. I won about six in a row to finish 16th of 980 in the same tourney a week earlier.
I have a database with 30,000 hands and everything is pretty much inline with what I should get dealt, given that sample size. There are programs that save your hand histories. LIke others have said, I'm much more worried about collusion.
(Playing the Pokerstars $20 NL tourney with 1170 other players right now )
Look, I LIKE open source, but you can't deny it's taken away from some programming jobs. How's the market for IDE's? Is Borland selling many copies of Jbuilder these days? Why would they? Eclipse is a GREAT IDE, with a million plugins extensions and it's free!
welcome to the world, of the non-real.
These are the kind of developers that drive me nuts. They are purists who seem unaware that there are other, valid ways of writing code than theirs. Who seem unwilling to admit that it is RESULTS, not design patterns, that matter.
yeah, to make something jump out I either use:
HERE BE DRAGONS: xxxx
or:
BITCHES: xxxx
apparently party recenty started challenging some players to do the "type this word" thing that is and obfuscated graphic.. there was a thread on twoplustwo.com the other day...
now THAT was funny.
where the *** are my mod points today.. grrr.
hmmm, you mean like Microsoft. I have a game from them (ages of empires 2) that explicitly checks for membership in the group "administrators". You can't security audit, find the permissions it needs, and grant them.