I'm very sorry, my use of pronouns must have been ambiguous. I would certainly not presume to imply that you only read the last statement of the post without reading the rest.
I don't think that analogy really quite fits, as you're presumably not providing a medium for illegal activity from your house.
IANALE, but I imagine the **AA can try to pitch this as being more akin to, say, hotel managers signing a 'code of conduct' that requires them to report to the authorities any and all instances of illegal drug consumption by their guests. Still not exactly the best analogy in the world, but it's not my forte...
Don't get me wrong, I'm very much against the **AA's position on, well, everything, but I also like playing Devil's Advocate.
but the courts are likely to give a raised eyebrow in return, and provide a cautious decision in their favor at best.
I hope you're right, but the decision doesn't need to be a slam-dunk to do an awful lot of harm. Even a cautious decision could be pretty detrimental.
I'd like to see some outside group come in and audit the research done by the MPAA, RIAA, and BSA, among others, to see how well it stands up to scrutiny.
Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but Ars Technica has an article that might be of interest.
I honestly don't think that the RIAA/MPAA expect one single ISP to sign something like this. What they're trying to do, in my estimation, is to create a portfolio of 'goodwill attempts' to combat online copyright infringement. Once they have enough of these attempts thrown back in their faces, they'll be able to go to court and say "See? We tried, we really really tried, but they just aren't willing to compromise. Please step in and help us!"
Wanna cry some more? Check out this other patent of theirs: here.
There isn't any sort of intention to do anything with it, in fact that's their selling point -- rather than bet on a particular implementation, bet on the underlying principle that all implementations will have to share!
Another great one that used to be is The Parking Lot Is Full, similar sense of humour to pbf. If I remember correctly, one of the pbf's (man with no penis) appears to be remarkably similar to a plif I once read...
The government publishes Your e-mail address WITH THE GOAL that someone can CLEARLY IDENTIFY valid lawyers in the state.
Well, it does help us to approximate the size of wall we'll need when the revolution comes...
Absolutely. That's why I try to give food or food vouchers. You'll hear aid workers who work with the homeless constantly say that giving money to them is better than nothing, but a far cry from giving them products they can directly use for exactly the reason you cited.
Of course they didn't have final, absolute say over whether a person was a felon or not, but they provided the list that was used to help determine it. They damn well should have had a good idea of how "overly inclusive" the list might be given the provided search paramters, and are therefore pretty complicit in the act.
For a start, from ChoicePoint's own mouth: DBT (now ChoicePoint) was hired to create an overly inclusive list of potential voter exceptions based on criteria established by the Secretary of State, which DBT told the state might create false positives. County election supervisors - not DBT - were solely responsible for verifying the eligibility to vote of any voter identified by DBT on the exceptions list. In particular, county election supervisors - not DBT - were solely responsible for the decision to remove any voter from the rolls.
Source: http://www.choicepoint.com/news/2000election.html
Now, consider all the other shennanigans in Florida, and it's not hard to imagine how "overly exclusive" the list was required to be, whether it was systematically "overly inclusive", and how concerned the county election supervisors were with identifying false positives.
While on the continent view in google maps Canada isn't marked at all, but if you zoom in on it the streets are just as finely marked as their American counterparts. The directions functionality also works just fine with Canadian addresses, although it did choke a little coming up with directions from my native Toronto to my current Seattle...;)
I remember hearing an anecdote about Steve Jobs... as the movie industry began looking into distributing movies via DVD's, Steve wanted to ensure the only computers that DVD's could be viewed on were Macs.
Really? I heard the same thing about Bill Gates.
No, not really, but isn't it fun to conjure up wild allegations without subjecting yourself to even the most minimal amount of burden of proof?
I believe those 25 years include two charges -- one of which is a no-brainer, he lied to federal officers, initially claiming it was his daughter who shone the laser at the plane.
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So, thank you for your mindless idiotic jab at the President, but some of us here actually voted for him.
That's alright, nobody's perfect.
After all, there are an awful lot of "R"s in Texas who were "D"s in a previous life.
In the words of Robert Anton Wilson, "It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea."
"Scary part: It'll probably work."
Ignorance is scary. Enlighten yourself.
I'm very sorry, my use of pronouns must have been ambiguous. I would certainly not presume to imply that you only read the last statement of the post without reading the rest.
I don't think that analogy really quite fits, as you're presumably not providing a medium for illegal activity from your house.
IANALE, but I imagine the **AA can try to pitch this as being more akin to, say, hotel managers signing a 'code of conduct' that requires them to report to the authorities any and all instances of illegal drug consumption by their guests. Still not exactly the best analogy in the world, but it's not my forte...
Don't get me wrong, I'm very much against the **AA's position on, well, everything, but I also like playing Devil's Advocate.
but the courts are likely to give a raised eyebrow in return, and provide a cautious decision in their favor at best.
I hope you're right, but the decision doesn't need to be a slam-dunk to do an awful lot of harm. Even a cautious decision could be pretty detrimental.
I'd like to see some outside group come in and audit the research done by the MPAA, RIAA, and BSA, among others, to see how well it stands up to scrutiny.
Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but Ars Technica has an article that might be of interest.
I honestly don't think that the RIAA/MPAA expect one single ISP to sign something like this. What they're trying to do, in my estimation, is to create a portfolio of 'goodwill attempts' to combat online copyright infringement. Once they have enough of these attempts thrown back in their faces, they'll be able to go to court and say "See? We tried, we really really tried, but they just aren't willing to compromise. Please step in and help us!"
Scary part: It'll probably work.
I will never have to worry about people using my flashlight batteries up again
One of these might do pretty well for that too.
And it worked fantastically. Dang, I was really looking forward to this... I suppose I'll still show up, towel & all.
Nah, they all ducked
Wanna cry some more? Check out this other patent of theirs: here.
There isn't any sort of intention to do anything with it, in fact that's their selling point -- rather than bet on a particular implementation, bet on the underlying principle that all implementations will have to share!
Excuse me while I weep for our race...
Another great one that used to be is The Parking Lot Is Full, similar sense of humour to pbf. If I remember correctly, one of the pbf's (man with no penis) appears to be remarkably similar to a plif I once read...
And ctrl-alt-del updates 4 times a week
And, if a live recording, the murmurs of the audience.
I can sue you for wasting the planet's oxygen. (You're breathing, right?) The court will throw the suit out immediately, but I can file it.
Oh, I can think of a few people against whom such a case might not be dismissed out of hand...
he/she should look for a good proof-reader/grammer checker.
*cough*
The government publishes Your e-mail address WITH THE GOAL that someone can CLEARLY IDENTIFY valid lawyers in the state.
Well, it does help us to approximate the size of wall we'll need when the revolution comes...
Absolutely. That's why I try to give food or food vouchers. You'll hear aid workers who work with the homeless constantly say that giving money to them is better than nothing, but a far cry from giving them products they can directly use for exactly the reason you cited.
Of course they didn't have final, absolute say over whether a person was a felon or not, but they provided the list that was used to help determine it. They damn well should have had a good idea of how "overly inclusive" the list might be given the provided search paramters, and are therefore pretty complicit in the act.
For a start, from ChoicePoint's own mouth:
DBT (now ChoicePoint) was hired to create an overly inclusive list of potential voter exceptions based on criteria established by the Secretary of State, which DBT told the state might create false positives. County election supervisors - not DBT - were solely responsible for verifying the eligibility to vote of any voter identified by DBT on the exceptions list. In particular, county election supervisors - not DBT - were solely responsible for the decision to remove any voter from the rolls.
Source: http://www.choicepoint.com/news/2000election.html
Now, consider all the other shennanigans in Florida, and it's not hard to imagine how "overly exclusive" the list was required to be, whether it was systematically "overly inclusive", and how concerned the county election supervisors were with identifying false positives.
While on the continent view in google maps Canada isn't marked at all, but if you zoom in on it the streets are just as finely marked as their American counterparts. The directions functionality also works just fine with Canadian addresses, although it did choke a little coming up with directions from my native Toronto to my current Seattle... ;)
Let that be a lesson: Post first, link references later
I remember hearing an anecdote about Steve Jobs... as the movie industry began looking into distributing movies via DVD's, Steve wanted to ensure the only computers that DVD's could be viewed on were Macs. Really? I heard the same thing about Bill Gates. No, not really, but isn't it fun to conjure up wild allegations without subjecting yourself to even the most minimal amount of burden of proof?
Critical reading, Cynical reading, same difference ;)
I believe those 25 years include two charges -- one of which is a no-brainer, he lied to federal officers, initially claiming it was his daughter who shone the laser at the plane.
Or just put it all in your Dead Man's Switch, by DaisyMan of Ars Technica fame.